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- robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -18/+189This is some pretty pictures and text- but that's all it is. I'm not trying to knock the kid but this is nothing but a dream. If this passes as a concept phone then so does Ghost In the Shell Man-Machine interface.
It's neat, yes. Plausible, yes. Practical, no. - pikpikcarrotmon, on 10/12/2007, -24/+168I'd buy that for a dollar.
- ScrabbyDoo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+135Lets not confuse presentation of concept and the concept itself. He's done a great job of mimicking an apple print advert, good photoshop skills, but sorry to say, a really bad job at coming out with any phone that is innovative or even attractive. That phone chassis looks it came out of 80s, with its sharp angles and all.
His future is in graphic design, not product design. - Zoctogon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+93For awhile there I was thinking this was designed 15 years ago by a 15 year old.
Trippy. - Smigge87, on 10/12/2007, -5/+90I agree, it just looks like the kid got the idea from playing his DS too much.
- msprout, on 10/12/2007, -11/+64You think that's amazing? Did you know that a 40-something folk singer invented one of the most popular cellphone concepts in Internet history?
It's no baloney – it ain't a phoney. - crashtestah, on 10/12/2007, -12/+61Nintendo DS + Apple interface. VOILA!
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45Bananaphone - Raffi
Awesome song. Evidently, some people don't get it. - sonycam, on 10/12/2007, -17/+58The only thing amazing is the graphics, the phone itself just looks like a bulky ripoff of the iphone, nothing unique.
- willi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37Clearly copied the Samsung YP-K5 design.
http://www.samsung.com/sg/products/audio/mp3player/yp_k5abxsp.asp - jamester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32I thought something along those lines as well - "Fifteen year old designs! AMAZING concept phone!!". I even clicked the link and took a gander at the pictures, and I thought to myself "These were made in 1992? That's pretty cool..." But then I came back here and read the first few comments and was forced to re-read the headline with proper emphasis. I guess it's because I'm still sleepy. :/
- smartmlp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35Looks like a DS.
- deadsanchez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33not terribly impressed. It's a nice rendering, nice presentation. It has pretty screen backgrounds and icons. But overall it's a shiny Apple-esque brick. Yes it is a pretty DS- err Phone.
- ever, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30@roosterjkm2k
"designers dont have to think about how it works, just how it looks."
How much exactly do you know about the industrial design process as a whole? Of course the designers HAVE to think about how stuff works. We don't design stuff that looks cool and then leave all the work to the engineers. A lot of the time (especially when it comes to cellular phones etc) the design process starts with the engineers and the technology; what's the product we make the design for, in another words what's all the stuff that needs to be crammed inside the ultracool design some industrial designer comes up with.
Form follows function; design is based on what the product is for, supporting the technology inside and the useability, ergonomics etc. Sure there are some people, especially in the movie business, who design something cool and then it's just up for the engineers to make some sense out of it :). When it comes to electronics the engineers lead a lot of the design process. It's kinda sad but yeh, technology over design, that's the priority most of the time. First the cool technology, then the cool casing for it :).
Pardon my english, I'm not a native speaker :) - roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27!!!!!!!!BANANA PHONE!!!!!!!!
damn you, its in my head again. - surfing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28The ultimate dream for most 15 year old males is having sex with their hot teacher.
- 3dom, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33Like a few others have noted: it's a bunch of glossy concept pictures, and it looks like a brick.
- shenzi, on 10/12/2007, -20/+45@cleverboy - that was a messed up response to robhh66
robhh66 said: "neat, yes. Plausible, yes. Practical, no."
you said: "It's entirely plausible and appears VERY PRACTICAL.... The only "IMPRACTICAL" aspect I can see, is that it will be using 2-3 touchscreen color lcd displays. I can see a few tricks that could improve the manufacturing costs and not take much away from the utility of the device, but that doesn't make it ANY LESS PRACTICAL... it simply WOULDN'T BE A CHEAP PHONE. It's certainly a WORTHWHILE DESIGN EFFORT."
You begin with practicality, and end with worthwhile design effort, which by the way NO ONE was arguing that it was not a worthwhile design effort. On top of that, you claim its practical, and in the same post point out the impractical bit. And without seeing the software to go along with it, I don't see how anyone could even really comment on the utility of the device. And I wonder if you actually have a background in Industrial Design and Industrial Engineering to talk as if you could judge that the design was fit for mass production.
The kid came up with a nice design, and apparently knows how to present his ideas well. Nothing more than that... - washcapsfan37, on 10/12/2007, -10/+32Not that impressive of a feat. My cellphone design is thinner and doesn't need a touchscreen because it can read your mind! [/sarcasm] It's very easy to come up with a concept phone, even for a 15 year old. Now, if he came up with more detailed schematics such as how to make this sort of phone of out components available today (or in the easily foreseeable future) and ensure it would be within most consumer's price range then I would be duly impressed.
This, however, might as well be a picture of a flying car. - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Battery life? 15 minutes.
- slave25637, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Hooray for vista wallpapers!
- cinnix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18It's the best, beats the rest; cellular, modular interactive-odular
ringringringringringringring... - Amablue, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I was doing mock up concept art in my free time in drafting class back when I was a freshman in highschool (when I was 14 or 15). This is obviously a step above what I was doing, but it's not _that_ impressive.
- Coestar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Regardless of the phone design, this kid has got a huge head start on art and design!
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Seems impractical. Most people I hear are always just saying "Give me a phone that's simple and easy to use."
- ki85squared, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Not to go unmentioned: That design mockup states "To reduce the price and flexibility of the device, no memory was built in. Instead, an SD card slot offers an infinite amount of expandable memory."
heh... I would buy a camera without media, but never a phone. I can hear it now: "My contacts are saved where? On an SD card I left at home after swapping out to take some pictures?" - Coestar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14You nailed it... that's the phone/mp3 player thing they've been "placing" in the hands of actors in music videos on MTV. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the concept from the article... basically, the kid watches MTV, probably said "hey... why not white with bigger (decidedly more useful) screens?" That's not exactly anything brilliant by itself, but the presentation is what sells it and makes the non-artistic/non-creative crowd go "Ooooo Wooooow!"
- lpcustom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Think he'll get sued for using that vista background? Also, I'm sorry, but this doesn't look at all comfortable to you know....talk on....it's supposed to be a phone right?
- rarun98, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Does anyone else think that digg needs nested comments that goes beyond two levels?
- ScrabbyDoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13guttenburg project style and Word auto-replace shortcut:
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/italic/ - Amablue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Since I can't use bold or italics, I have to add emphasis like _this_
I did it to add inflection. Saying "it's not that impressive" have a slightly difference connotation than "it's not _that_ impressive." - prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12That's an awful lot of screen for a device that spends most of it's time either in your pocket, or pressed against the side of your head.
I'll never buy a phone that didn't have hardware buttons. I need to be able to hit buttons without looking at my phone. - CaptShmo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12nice concept, but i wouldn't want to have to open my phone to end a call (detail in the article)
- tonich03, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17The only good thing about this concept is the presentation. If the kid did it alone, this is some serious skill. Now that I think about it it's not, it's patience. Patience to do all the screens etc. But nothing else...meh. I don't see the big deal.
- xenixninja, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12He got talent, yes, but it still doesn't have the wow-factor.
We don't have so many phones that uses only touchscreen. The only ones that come to mind is the Prada phone and iPhone.
And to be honest, even if it's small, it seems a bit fat.
Still, it looks like a phone that B&O would sell, but very few would buy. - filefly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12y do u hv 2 typ lk ths? its rly annyg n hrd 2 rd. y mst u do ths?
- Iwantawii, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Unfair advantage: he's asian.
- redlemon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14he's fifteen you grumpy piece of *****.
- aaron.dunlap, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13When I first read the title of this I thought it said "15 yr old design: AMAZING concept phone", like one of those "here is what we thought was cool 15 years ago".... after clicking the link I still thought thats what the title was. This phone is just ugly and impractical.
- DiggFight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Bet you a gazillion dollars that this kid owns a Nintendo DS.
- adb44, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Creative in the same way Eragon is creative...
- posure, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9It looks cool...but how is this a phone in the slightest?
- mclaren151, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Clearly the kid is not a future engineer. Not to crap on his parade, but no memory on board? So where is the firmware for his uber-connected, multi-screen masterpiece going to be stored? On the SD card? Take out the card, or lose the card, the phone doesn't work? That would suck. There would have to be some glue logic to copy the program to RAM (which is memory too, so therefore not in his phone) from the SD because it is a serial bus (SPI I think) connected device and not part of the normal program memory of any processor I know. The phone would most likely have to use a micro with built in flash for the firmware, but I doubt with all the pretty screens he would be able to store all that in the on board, not to mention if he wanted an OS to run on the phone. Might as well just put a small flash memory chip on board. Memory is very cheap, especially NAND so I don't think he's really saving any money. And it would make the phone less flexible to not have memory on board.
Hopefully his battery is super dense as well because between 2 screens, Wifi radio, and the cell phone he's going to have battery life of about 2 minutes.
But hey, it's a nice design I guess, just needs a touch of reality. - SlvrEagle23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Sorry to be so blunt, but just because nobody expected all that much from you when you were 15 doesn't mean that the whole of today's modern teenage population is sitting around and smoking pot. Sure, a lot of them are, but there will always be exceptions.
The idea of finding the one thing "you're good at" and pursuing that to excellence is shoved down the throats of every American public school child from about 8th grade on. For me, that was web development, and just as they said, starting it at that age led to a fairly fast track to a stable career. For this kid, it's graphic design, and he'll have a guaranteed future simply because so little is expected of him at this age yet he produces good material.
Then again, he might do what a lot of "teenage prodigies" do in their mid-twenties and realize that he sacrificed a lot of his precious adolescence to pursue that future, which will probably make him wish he could go back to this time in high school and just lay around and smoke pot... - ezweave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I remember being 13 and going to "Future Engineers Day" at the Illinois Institute of Technology and arguing with one of the presenters, ridiculing their PDA for using the good old 6502 instead of a newer RISC processor, and mocking their full color screen saying it was a waste of battery power (back in the early 90s). Some other young nerd joined in and we had ourselves a good laugh at the "primitive" device. Had our knowledge been better rooted in reality we might have sympathized with their design decisions (i.e. this thing is just some nice pictures and about 0% real hardware specs).
All that said, it looks like a bad mish-mash of current designs and really offers nothing new: 30% DS, 30% Sidekick, 40% iPhone. So I have to ask, why on earth is this on the front page? (Not to discourage the kid, it's shoddy journalism to consider this news.) - washcapsfan37, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@roosterjkm2k
Well, 'ever' stole most of my reply...
Basically they don't design cars by body shape and then try to slap an engine inside. Well, okay, they do... but they always end up with truly horrendous cars that are either poorly made or terrible to maintain (i.e., ever tried changing spark plugs in an engine compartment with no room?) Part of design is realizing your limitations. Sure, an inch (well, 2 cm and not 2.54 cm) may seem like a lot of room for a components, but the design has two full-size LCD screens (at least one of them a touchscreen). Plus it has to have room for the internal ICs and memory (including SD card reader), antenna, camera, battery (according to the spec, 18 hours of phone and music playing use -- not a cake-walk), WiFi and mechanical components for the butterfly opening.
He obviously has not given any thought to how large any of these components are. He doesn't have supporting diagrams of how the butterfly mechanism even works. He doesn't specify part or model numbers for the battery, SD card reader or touchscreens. He states no internal memory is built in, yet where does the OS for the phone live? Do you have to buy proprietary SDs with the OS installed, or if not then he gives no consideration as to the internal memory required to support the OS needed to support music playback, IM, video, etc. I'd assume not hard drive and instead flash-based for size considerations.
Interesting concept, but poorly thought out. No real depth. And so it's dugg down. - RadioFreeOpium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7That's an amazing phone concept? It looks like a tanning bed.
- redlemon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13this kid did a great job on his presentation. he's going places. good for him.
- redlemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8subliminal backgrounds?
- inurb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I fail to see how this is amazing? I've seen better renderings on deviantart.
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