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- CaptCarrot, on 12/30/2008, -2/+147Not entirely accurate. Copyright expiry means that the Popeye comic strips and shorts that have had their copyright term expire can be reprinted without asking permission.
However, usage of the Popeye image on t-shirts and other items has nothing to do with copyright -- that's a *trademark* issue, and I'm pretty sure that King Features Syndicate would be quick to respond with a lawyer should anyone care to test that. - sotbat2, on 12/30/2008, -3/+114All this country needs is unregulated Popeye memorabilia cluttering our streets.
- fluidfoundation, on 12/30/2008, -4/+94Ah, and entirely new generation of kids all saying, ".... who the ***** is Popeye??"
- xenmaster4, on 12/31/2008, -5/+66Well blow me down.
- UrinalPooper, on 12/31/2008, -0/+57If you invent a cure for leukemia, in the US, it will be protected for seven years. If you draw a mouse it will be protected essentially forever.
- tomg025, on 12/31/2008, -1/+51pay you tuesday for a hamburger today
- LordMalak, on 12/30/2008, -1/+43In the UK. However, in the US, Elzie Segar will still be given royalties until he comes out of the grave as a zombie.
- AndyStitzer, on 12/30/2008, -1/+38Does this mean my Popeye tattoo is finally legal?
- jojoko, on 12/31/2008, -0/+34in the uk and europe. not in america, unfortunately due to our stupid mickey mouse laws.
- jeremymccurdy, on 12/31/2008, -2/+30
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man,
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man.
I'm strong to the finich
Cause I eats me spinach.
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man.
I'm one tough Gazookus
Which hates all Palookas
Wot ain't on the up and square.
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em
And always out roughs 'em
But none of 'em gets nowhere.
If anyone dares to risk my "Fisk",
It's "Boff" an' it's "Wham" un'erstan'?
So keep "Good Be-hav-or"
That's your one life saver
With Popeye the Sailor Man.
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man,
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man.
I'm strong to the finich
Cause I eats me spinach.
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man. - negrox, on 12/31/2008, -2/+29So 2009 will be a tough year for pirates, now that popeye is free.
- drachemorder, on 12/30/2008, -1/+26Since when did 4chan ever bother with copyright authorization?
- inferno10, on 12/31/2008, -1/+25The title for the upcoming Popeye hentai...
- str3ama, on 12/31/2008, -0/+22that about sums up what copyright law has become, a twisted series of loopholes created by lobby groups and draconian rules for all the rest. If I could digg you twice I would.
- bunghole999, on 12/31/2008, -3/+25In the old days (1800s) copyright was 14 years plus a 14 year renewal period. Copyright should be 21 years period. If the creator has not made money after 21 years, then the creator will never make money. Of course, once something falls into the public domain (in this case, 21 years) the widespread duplication of it could cause an interest. For years in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, it was believed the unsuccessful "It's A Wonderful Life" was copyright free and it was shown all the time on TV. That was the first popular acceptance of it, as it had failed in the movie theaters of the 40s... then some sort of loophole was found with the score or the story or something... so now it is shown only one or two times a year ...by NBC, who bought the copyright.... If copyright was 21 years, then anything made in 1987 or before could be used -- musical scores, songs, movies, writings, books, etc. would be in the public domain and the free use of them would advance art... and Dutch Guilder --- if you are out there... go ahead and make some ignorant reply --- Bunghole999
- Halsfield, on 12/31/2008, -1/+21how is it that the author failed to notice this but the 5th digger to come on here knew it in detail ? just because its the internet doesn't mean you can be a slackass when it comes to knowing what you're talking about when you're writing an article because sites like this will slam you for it, and rightly so.
When your article may be viewed by millions of people its good to get your facts straight, even something as simple as what a trademark is, and what a copyright is. Wiki is your friend.
Anyway, well done carrot. - str3ama, on 12/31/2008, -1/+21I don't trust anyone who doesn't know who's Popeye...but then again some would say I have trust issues.
- uncoveror, on 12/31/2008, -2/+21In the US at least, the copyright on Mickey Mouse will never expire. Every time it is about to, Disney will bribe Congress into another copyright term extension. The whole point of copyright is to encourage creative people to keep creating. It can't do that when they are dead.
- whiteguysamurai, on 12/31/2008, -0/+18Just in time for the next depression.
- jeremymccurdy, on 12/31/2008, -0/+17What the hell is with all the people signing their posts? We can see your goddamn name already.
- BradBrown, on 12/31/2008, -0/+16Popeye is the new Miley Cyrus.
- xxNIRVANAxx, on 12/31/2008, -1/+15And to which I will respond, "A sailor man."
Edit: is it one word? - Osirus1156, on 12/31/2008, -0/+12...and dude...rule 34.
- Akairenn, on 12/31/2008, -2/+12Not true. There are authors whose works are suddenly insane popular long after twenty one years. (Mostly because of newer stuff they've written. :p)
Copyright should most definitely be 'life of the artist'. Limited to that. A suitable, small number - I dare say even your 21 year period) would, however, be ideal for corporations/work-for-hire scenarios.
Artists need to get paid/eat. Corporations can go ***** themselves. I'm looking at you, Disney, and your bastardization of every nation's classics. - transporter2, on 12/31/2008, -0/+10You are half right on the whole point of copyright. The original intent of copyright had two winners. The creator of said content got a government granted monopoly on said material for "x" amount of years, and during those years they could use that monopoly to make money. After that time period, the public got it copyright free in the public domain...so that said material could enrich the public.
To see the public domain in action, go to project gutenberg: www.gutenberg.org
You could read the classic novel, Treasure Island, for instance, totally free, and totally legit.
Robert Louis Stevens got to benefit from copyright, and the public got to benefit from its copyright expiring.
Now, nothing will ever enter public domain, as you pointed out, so copyright now only has one winner.
Also, it is now being used in ways that nobody ever dreamed of, to the point it is being abused. - newbill123, on 12/31/2008, -1/+10The plotline of the Popeye live-action movie was fairly faithful to the Segar comic strip. Though the comic was well-loved in it's day, most people who saw the Robin Williams cocaine-fueled movie, hated the plot because they wanted 15 minute mini-epics of spinach-motivated violence (like the Max Fleischer cartoons) they were familiar with.
Even if the comic can be reprinted, I think that it's largely irrelevant to most fans until the cartoons enter public domain too. That'll be a while. - jeremymccurdy, on 12/31/2008, -0/+8I know, I was making a killing selling bootleg Popeye dvds...
- JonHs, on 12/31/2008, -0/+8Watch old Popeye cartoons from the 30s and 50s: http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/cartoons_animatio ...
- iamrussell, on 12/31/2008, -0/+8countdown to "popeye pissing on something" bumper stickers..
- btraxx, on 12/31/2008, -0/+7Joey Gladstone is rejoicing in the streets.
- thebrinkman, on 12/31/2008, -0/+7Finally I can publish my fanfiction.
- treytravis, on 12/31/2008, -0/+7im going to make a popeye porno now.
- atgmac, on 12/31/2008, -0/+714 + 14 = 28 does it not?
- stubear, on 12/31/2008, -0/+7Funny, Disney has taken works form the PUBLIC DOMAIN and turned them into classics unto themselves. Why can't people see this and give it a shot themselves? What they are doing is PERFECTLY legal AND how copyright was intended to be used after works had fallen into the public domain.
- cawpin, on 12/31/2008, -0/+6Well, technically, since he's in the Navy he would be a seaman.
Yes, I said it. It's true. My grandfather and father were in the Navy. My last name is Allhands. No, I'm not ***** you. - gernblansted, on 12/31/2008, -0/+6Quick! Pass laws perpetuating copyright into infinity!
How much do you want to bet that this will become a rallying cry for tighter copyright legislation, because the old guys in congress still remember who he is. - Pixelante, on 12/31/2008, -0/+6"I really wish people would learn a thing or two before ranting about copyright laws. This discussion would be much easier to have if they did."
This is Digg. We don't need to learn, we already know everything and we fling uninformed opinions around like chimpanzees flinging poo. And if you don't say we're right, we'll threaten to harm ourselves. - julianrod, on 12/31/2008, -0/+6"US law protects a work for 95 years after its initial copyright."
Sad state of affairs... - YodaJones, on 12/31/2008, -0/+6Yessss, now Olive Oyl will be mine, all mine.
- Spoomeister, on 12/31/2008, -0/+5Someone is going to misinterpret this, and we're going to end up with a ***** of trucks with little window stickers of Popeye pissing on a Ford logo.
- CaptCarrot, on 12/31/2008, -0/+5Thanks, Halsfield. Of course, it kinda helped that I have a small hand in the copyright arena myself. :)
- hello3u, on 12/31/2008, -1/+6Mickey Mouse has his own law?!?
Rule #1
No cats. Period. - Stormwern, on 12/31/2008, -0/+5Isn't it the other way around, he'll come out of his grave if you ever stop giving him royalties?
- xprojects, on 12/30/2008, -3/+8In other words, it's okay for people to litter YouTube with Popeye episodes. Ok, whatever.
- StillAnonymous, on 12/31/2008, -0/+5Says who?
- inactive, on 12/31/2008, -0/+5You can bet on it. Nothing has entered the public domain in the US since the 20s. Copyright is in the constitution; the founders thought of it as a necessary evil whose intention would be to only give writers an incentive to write.
Someone took this nonsense to the supreme court and lost, however, even though the current body of copyright law clearly goes against the intentions of the constitution. - Halsfield, on 12/31/2008, -1/+5you're obviously referencing the calvin and hobbes stickers made by people without the authority to, something that has already happened once would never happen again ? why would they have to wait until the copyright expires ?
All it takes is going to one of those "make your own stickers/posters/coffee mugs/etc" places and bringing along a pic of popeye and copying it onto some different media and selling it at a concert or online or something.
actually thats a pretty cool idea...i could make a lot of money....brb. - exspasticcomics, on 12/31/2008, -0/+4well- if you live overseas -feel free to stick the pipe back in his mouth.
- o0joshua0o, on 12/31/2008, -0/+4What's funny is how Disney made its fortune by exploiting the public domain, and then lobbied to ruin it for the rest of us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_ ...
This legislation ensures that most works of art will no longer be relevant by the time they enter the public domain. Thanks Disney! - bonlebon, on 12/31/2008, -0/+4Thanks Mr. Elzie Segar. I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
Freeing the copyrights after 70 years pushes for creativity and new material. The Disney corp will die the day after they push this law on Mickey Mouse. -
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