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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+170I was in marine infantry for 4 years and the poeple you hear talking are a very good indication of the people it is made up of. Uneducated, young kid's, often with a southern accent who think blowing stuff up is a game and fun. so glad I got out when I did. They actually like being over there, playing soldiers.. it's not about defending anyone or anything, upholding values of any kind, its about potentially killing a "*****".
Not all marines are like this but I would say about 8/10 from my experience, particularly in infantry. - Wonkanobi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+140It's strange being anti-war and watching this from my comfy American living room...at first I think these guys are insensitive ***** rednecks, then I realize that I would have reacted in EXACTLY the same way if I had I been there. You're a soldier stuck in a ***** war. Context is EVERYTHING.
- draebor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+104With the bulk of our infantry having grown up playing Quake and America's Army, I'm suprised nobody ran over to teabag the sniper after the airstrike.
- Digitalicious, on 10/12/2007, -30/+125We may not know why we're fighting, but...We're really good at fighting.
- jefferygomer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+86Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that they were all giddy and cheering because they just saw a big explosion. If you read the description of the video you'd realize that they were pinned down by a sniper. That isn't the most comfortable of situations to be in. The fact that they could breath without getting shot would be a very big relief. This is a much bigger reason to cheer and be happy than some football game.
I'm not happy that a life was taken, but I am happy to know that several more of our US Marines will be alive another day. - Seddon, on 10/12/2007, -24/+91Well the Iraqi war was actually won - Hussein was toppled. It's what came after which Britain and America are struggling with now.
- vemerge, on 10/12/2007, -11/+72"This year's taxes actually feels worth it!"
Unfortunately this taxation produces people who write like you. - djphatjive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55I don't know, If someone one was trying to snipe my head off I would probably be as excited to take him out first.
- Blisshead, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55@Wonkanobi
Your one of the rare ones that thinks outside his own perspective, which is good. I wish more people would do that. - abusive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45"The only way to counter snipers is with other snipers."
Or a bomb that blows up half the block. - cjsoques, on 10/12/2007, -11/+50I'd much rather hear cheering in english by american's or british as opposed to that babbling allah ahkbar mess. One guy on break.com made a comment about how it wasn't even a fair fight, we just dropped a bomb on the sniper. And it must be totally fair to strap a bomb on yourself under your jacket and walk onto a bus or in a cafe, or pack roadkill with explosives and wait for the next hummer to pass by. Yeah, war should defnitely be fair (/sarcasm). Our unfair advantage is technology and money, theirs is the fanatic desire and pride in their religion causing them to kill themselves. War is not what it once was.
- bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40No, I saw the big explosion. I heard the big boom.
- PleaseJustDie, on 10/12/2007, -14/+43@diggidydoo
When you're killing "*****" instead of people, it makes it easier to sleep at night. If you have to kill people day in and day out it twists you and you do what you can to cope with it. First thing is to dehumanize those you kill so it makes it easier. - zeno60, on 10/12/2007, -10/+33Uhhh, excuse me, did you not see the "Mission Accomplished" banner like 4 years ago, hello...war is won!
[/sarcasm] - ryanonfire, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29did anyone else hear what they were saying kinda sounded like:
"how long will that record for?"
"until you turn it off" - Blisshead, on 10/12/2007, -20/+42Yeah, no different at all. In fact, please move there and hang out with the terrorist and report back, if they don't cut your head off.
***** brilliant. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18You're damn right the bomb knew. That smart bomb did my tax return.
- dangerz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Smart bomb stole my wife :(
- bbbbbtony, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24holy *****, that's my guys out there! those were not marines they are mississippi army national guard soldiers. the building was an old hotel. we've had to clear it many times and finally when we lost a soldier to an ied in front of it we just said ***** it and leveled the whole thing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18@ fooplex
you didn't see the sniper because he is a sniper
if you could see him on video that wouldn't make him a very good sniper
a us sniper is expected to dissapear right in front of you so should other snipers - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18"try zero. smart bomb."
So the bomb knew if there was a family hiding in a closet somewhere in that house? - fuzzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13If the US excels at one thing, and one thing only, it's blowing ***** up.
- gahendler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"Violence - definitely something about which to cheer."
Weapons are the tools of violence;
all decent men detest them.
Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?
He enters a battle gravely,
with sorrow and with great compassion,
as if he were attending a funeral.
- Lao-tzu , Tao Te Ching “The Book of the Way and Its Power”
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060812451 - das7282, on 10/12/2007, -12/+23"When was the last time American won a war anyway?"
1990 - The original Gulf War - chucksmooth, on 10/12/2007, -12/+23you don't see too many marines strapping bombs to themselves these days
- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10By throwing it most likely
- revjustin2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14People bitching about the cost of the attack are soooooo missing the f'ing point.
Yes - we spend a lot on military toys, but I (who am vehemently anti-war, btw) wonder about the wisdom of the whole "the war costs us a lot of money" argument in this very specific context. This is actually the kind of thinking that our good buddy Rumsfeld(sic) lived by and as a result he sent over an under-supplied, understaffed military that was, in general, ill-prepared for the real task at hand.
You can't send people over to a country to kill and be killed and expect them to be budget minded. That's like saying "Here - run through this mine field, but don't mess your shoes. They cost me a lot of money." Just ***** selfish if you ask me.
The cost of the war in dollars also shouldn't mean as much as the cost of the war in human lives. - nonpareil, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20Gotta love the BFGs.
Odd, the way they were cheerin makes it seem like they hadn't seen that kind of thing before. - Phrag, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14You guys are missing one key target in your list. You have to remember to bomb the crap out of those idiots that trained and funded Al Qaeda in the first place. I believe their training camps are based in Langley, Virgina...
- SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9 My brother is out there and if it takes a million bucks to get him out a tight spot than by all means use it.
- ALCx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You know, I'm not for the war in Iraq either. But if it comes down to killing a sniper who's probably part of a group that kills innocent Iraqis and american soldiers, I don't feel too bad.
- illflip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8ya, you cheer when that someone is the one shooting at you and your buddies
- jefferygomer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Buried as wrong topic. Not comedy. Cool video - not comedy.
- mikepictor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9while not a popular statement, it's poignant.
Don't think americans are *that* different then 95%+ of their opponents. Both sides will do what they can to dehumanize the other, whip themselves into a passinate righteous fervour, and achieve a state wherby you can attack the enemy and feel good about it. - dangerz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6so there was no sniper?
- bjsiders, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"When you're killing "*****" instead of people, it makes it easier to sleep at night"
Also makes it a bit easier to survive a war. Have you never talked to your grampa about what it was like in the Pacific? War sucks. You can hate on Bush & Friends for getting the world into this fiasco but to rip into soldiers whose primary goal is to survive and goal home? Pretty sad. Yeah, not everybody in the Corp is a National Merit Scholar. I guess if that helps you feel elite and superior and smarter than everybody else, keep raggin'. If you're fortunate enough to have an elder still alive who fought in a war, talk to them about it. Vietnam and WW2 especially. Or even better, go put yourself in a similar situation and come back and tell me how you felt. It's been said that laughter is how respond to the absurd to keep us sane.
I've only had my genuinely threatened once, I can report only that if I could have called in a bomb to blast the ***** away who did it, I would ahve been cheering and laughing too. It's an exultation in living another day, and it defies extemporaneous articulate expression. "See you hell, *****" is about all I could think of to describe it, too. If you'd manage some kind of introspective Shakespearean St. Crispin Day-style speech on the spot, you're quite the orator and I envy you that talent, but get off your ***** horse that not everybody retains their composure and due respect for his fellow man in a ***** war zone. *****. - S1ngular1ty1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Winning a war and policing an entire population are completely different things. The US easily toppled Iraq's army. Iraq's army surrendered by the thousands. However, it is kind of hard to police a people when ordinary citizens carry AKs and you can't distinguish people who are trying to kill you from people who are just going to the store for groceries.
The problem is trying to stop the individuals who pose a threat to our troops without killing everyone in the process. So of course the US will suffer losses because of this problem. And that is why the situation will just get worse and worse as the troops become more and more paranoid. Pretty soon everyone is a target and you are just trying to stay alive by any means necessary. - Phrag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Out of morbid curiousity, how exactly are these guys 'pinned down' by sniper fire if they are also video taping the building that the sniper is in and talking to each other freely? Seems to me some one who is pinned down by fire would be on their stomaches crawling for cover rather than breaking out the camcorder and waiting for bombs to drop.
- ATHEISTinHELL, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7i think i would cheer if the person who tried to kill me and my buddies is killed if that makes me sick than I'm sick.
- griffindj, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Since when is ANYTHING about war comedic?
Buried as wrong topic. - ShBm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm doubting that was some elite sniper who'd trained for years. It was just some dude with a high-powered rifle.
I'm wondering how they got the smoke grenade up there, though. - foamweapons, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I think 1991 did solve the threat. That's what U.N. Weapons Inspectors said, that Iraq was very close to complete disarmament and was cooperating. They gave Iraq a "B" on cooperation:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=elbaradei+B+cooperation&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Search+Archives
I've been posting this for over 4 years now. The U.N., former intelligence officials, and foreign news services completely ripped apart the idea that Iraq and Saddam was a "threat":
http://middleeastreference.org.uk/un030214.html
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/roadindex.htm
For a few years I got tired of commenting about it. But now people are saying we can't leave Iraq... and I'm not sure what the excuse is.
Most Iraqis do not speak English and could not enter the United States. The ones that can do that, most likely have fled Iraq already. Iraq has never been a threat... although poor people making home-made bombs, and with AK-47s are a threat to Marines on the ground, but that's different than traveling outside the country and planning something elaborate to smuggle weapons and blend with our society and do a major terrorist attack like 9-11. You think some "MOOSH" is capable of that? No, it takes well-financed, educated Saudis to do that... Iraqi people have never been a threat to American civilians... it's time to ***** leave. - mal1964, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6i don't know, but after seeing that i hope I'm not one lol
- gjscds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7What amazes me, and this sentiment is reflected by some on this board, is the concept that we have to fight our enemies on their level. Like we're supposed to reduce our capabilities to give them a fair shot at victory.
Why we haven't extracted the civilians and neutron-bombed the entire country is beyond me. We're losing the war (and American Soldiers) at the expense of saving civilian lives. And this will never work.
War, by nature, is messy. And it cannot be truly won cleanly. (No--1991 didn't count; as that didn't really solve the threat.) - senseigmg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Its much better to have a line of Marines walk by and maybe fire back w/ their guns. Maybe only a few marines will get hit by the time they can spot him.
/srcsm - Rfriaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No seriously, answer that guy's question. What is a moosh?
- hagbard72, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Its going to be interesting when the US is no longer the superpower nation. China and Japan hold a huge amount of US debt, and at some point, Americans are going to have to pay up. The 21st century will belong to China and the rest of Asia and it could very well be you who are the occupied nation. Then maybe some of you will get a clue.
- psitech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is exactly the problem were in right now. Pansy ass armchair quarterbacks. I say let the military decide how they should wage a war and everybody else stfu.
- crestfall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@diggidydoo
It's good to hear it from another soldier. All of our monuments, family photos, and stories about heroic service are being disgraced. Was it always this way? You didn't even mention the racism and other discrimination that takes place daily, but I'm sure you are well aware of it. The most uncivilized people I have ever met were in the military. That's not to say there weren't any thoughtful soldiers. You sound like a prime example.
To anyone thinking about joining - unless you want to spend the next few years at a never-ending frat party, just go to school. - kayosthery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Thanks for what you do Tony.
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