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- bluehouse, on 02/04/2009, -7/+902Worst sentence ever:
"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." - ngmcs8203, on 02/04/2009, -5/+550"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is."
That sentence hurts my brain. - tardislink, on 02/04/2009, -26/+443If this article is true (which, although I really do not like Harry, he really seems to have spies everywhere) then what happened is justified and the end of the rope for an actor whose was trying to do his best for the production. Being that he warned the DP several times before, which is pretty clear in the audio, if you listen with an open mind, and this was just the straw that broke the camels back, if you will. I really don't blame Bale for getting to this point and I don't think that the media outlets that ran with this should be protraying him as a spoiled out of control actor.
- eadnams, on 02/03/2009, -66/+396FTA:
Why AICN Doesn't Post Links To Stories Like This Christian Bale thing that's everywhere!
Hey folks, Harry here... I'm getting slammed with assloads of people angry at me for not posting the Bale explosion from the set of McG's TERMINATOR: SALVATION. Well, first off - there's a real simple reason. It isn't news. And it certainly isn't cool news. It is a moment in a man's life taken completely out of context and most likely leaked to personally embarrass Christian Bale.
Now, I know what a lot of you are thinking... There's no excuse for a temper tantrum like that to ever occur and if you are going to act that way, you deserve to be embarrassed by your own actions.
Except, you want to hear the REALITY behind that clip?
I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is. And this person isn't a publicist, nor are they invested in Bale's career. They're just someone that thinks it is absolute ***** that this moment in Bale's life is being aired and that the real story should get out there.
The DP on TERMINATOR SALVATION, Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker. He's a fairly young DP and likes to fiddle with his lights on set during action, which is a big "NO NO" on most productions unless worked out in advance with performers. But apparently Shane was a pretty unrepentant light tweaker.
The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration. The sort of scene where everyone on set knows not to get in anyone's eye lines, and definitely not to move lights around while FILMING. You lock that ***** down before the scene starts.
Bale had indeed warned the DP on multiple occasions about messing with lights while the cameras were rolling, and Bale was in the midst of a painful scene with Bryce, what was described to me as being the emotional center of the film and his character for the film.
Now, the reason I know all of this is because the person that was there, felt that it should be made perfectly clear that Christian Bale was the utmost gentleman and cool guy on set. And the DP really was doing something that professional DPs with experience just don't do. Not during a performance.
You don't need me to give you a link, it's all over the internet, I just felt that you should know what really went down - and that this particular outburst did indeed modify the DP's behavior - and for future DPs. ***** with the lights before and after your actors are acting. Not during. - themastersb, on 02/04/2009, -5/+286"Double Penetration" obviously...
- souldawg, on 02/03/2009, -18/+284Good point. I have never been on a set where people tweaked during the scene. it's before or after adjustments.
- eadnams, on 02/03/2009, -10/+269Indeed. I *work* as a DP, and wouldn't be caught dead doing anything remotely distracting to an actor.
That DP got what you get when you're inconsiderate. - lintmonkey, on 02/04/2009, -2/+214I read it four times before giving up and moving on.
- mediablitz, on 02/04/2009, -0/+205"The DP on TERMINATOR SALVATION, Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker. "
I read that, and thought he was saying the guy was an occasional meth user (do those exist?). - mostie, on 02/03/2009, -36/+208There's two sides two every story
- feyded, on 02/04/2009, -22/+182This article is bang on. I work in film (as a technician) and am generally on set all day long. Lighting is given their time to do their thing with 2nd team, and once the DP says he's ready and they bring 1st team in, it's the ACTOR's time. Obviously some tweaks may need to be made, but you're supposed to do that after the 1st team rehearsal, NOT while the cameras are rolling. Basic set etiquette 101.
Bale was absolutely in the right. In fact it's pretty embarrassing that on a $150M+ (?) feature film he has to remind the DP of basic set etiquette. - J0hnnyBlaze, on 02/03/2009, -11/+165DP, whats that stand for again...cause I'm pretty sure my mind's going to the wrong place on that one.
- had3l, on 02/04/2009, -3/+135I blame McG. He should have pulled the guy aside and said: "Hey Shane, when I yell "action" you stand ***** still. Stop moving around the set like a deer caught in the headlights while we are filming." It's not up to the actors to worry about things like that.
Instead, he didn't want to get involved in the discussion. If your actors aren't in the right mood, it will show on the screen, and your film will suck. - Rhendal, on 02/04/2009, -2/+134I still have no effing clue what he's trying to say.
- megamod, on 02/04/2009, -8/+126yes there ARE.
- eadnams, on 02/03/2009, -2/+112Director of Photography - Guy responsible for the look/feel/lighting/shot choices, etc. Director deals with actors, DP deals with everything else ;)
- fuzed, on 02/03/2009, -3/+104Pardon my ignorance, but what does DP mean? Is that the Director of Photography?
- udayd, on 02/04/2009, -0/+90he stole that line from Miss Teen South Carolina
- xister, on 02/04/2009, -1/+91"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is."
'Scuse me??? - JargonScott, on 02/04/2009, -5/+90That's funny, cause I know a guy that works for a company that supplies the supplies a guy uses that was near that set as well. He said Bale eats a live baby hamster every morning.
- bowlagoat, on 02/04/2009, -5/+90Maybe you should have said "TA" instead of "FTA"
- realpolitik, on 02/04/2009, -1/+84"I know this because I happen to be with someone who was there."
Corrected. - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -7/+84- "I spoke to someone who witnessed the scene"
- "One of the eyewitnesses later told me"
- "Someone who was there explained that"
How ***** hard is that?? - Nirgaul, on 02/04/2009, -22/+93Does anyone else find it laughable that people are taking this emotional pivot scene in TERMINATOR f***ng 4 that seriously?
Harry Knowles. "Meesa loved it!!" He's like the press secretary for overinflated hollywood productions. - Charklii, on 02/04/2009, -46/+114I agree that it's unfair to Bale to release the audio across the internet for all to hear. But I don't agree with attempting to justify his actions. Acting the way he did isn't really excusable in any circumstances.. It was evident he had allowed his anger to take control of him, which isn't a situation anyone should put themselves in. Mind, I've had a few tantrums which I'm not proud of.. And it's really not anyones business except for mine and the people who I blasted at. If I were ever in a situation similar to Bale's I would apologise to those involved - and say screw the media/public who's business it isn't.
Noones perfect, right? Having issues to sort out doesn't make a person a douche/dick. - TheSexyGeek, on 02/04/2009, -0/+64I had to read that sentence three times before I could move on to the rest of the article.
- spiceee, on 02/04/2009, -14/+77AICN says it won't touch the subject because it's gossip of a personal matter then goes right on telling us the inside scoop on how the DP is basically a very young professional who's sort of obnoxious and can't take orders, can't work on a team and will sacrifice everything for his lights. Right, that's just great, because they possibly ruined a young DP professional career for the sake of Christian Bale's, which we know won't be going anywhere so soon, him being a very good actor (that is not on the table), a recognized face, and guarantee of a decent opening week turnout. Besides, we all know people love a good comeback story.
I say the Bale Career Patrol should just let the story die and stop pointing fingers. The recording is hilarious and nothing's going to make the interwebs think otherwise. AICN's trying to make this into a touchy matter actually gives out the impressiong it is taking the big guys side and not its public's, who is laughing at the meme this has spawn rather than the situation itself. - fuckingusername, on 02/04/2009, -14/+76submitted by MrBabyMan front page 3-2-1
- inactive, on 02/04/2009, -0/+62MrBabyMan is Skynet.
- Tyler2tall147, on 02/04/2009, -2/+60Yep.
- NeoNcP, on 02/04/2009, -17/+75I want to watch immersed acting performances. if that means a DP who's ruining the mood has to be yelled at, so be it.
- NinjaBull, on 02/04/2009, -1/+55This is the most important line in his article and he ***** it up...
- PeaTearGryphon, on 02/04/2009, -0/+51there's three sides three every story
- thephosphorbox, on 02/04/2009, -8/+56What fantasyland do you live in? I've worked for bosses who talked to subordinates that way in the past. Fortunately now I don't, but I still know several people who deal with this kind of thing on a regular basis from supervisors or fellow employees.
- inactive, on 02/04/2009, -9/+57Really? You have nothing else to get pissed off about in the world except an actor losing his cool? Let me tell you something, dick: you listen to anyone driving in a major city, and he'll say worse ***** than that. Never mind the fact that your holier than thou rhetoric makes me wonder if your sense of extreme judgment comes out because you've felt slighted in the past. Sorry, apothekari, just because something about work was unfair to you doesn't mean the whole world needs you to make it fair again.
"***** Christian Bale?"
The guy shouted profanities, and this is your response?
Why not get angry at politicians, bankers, anyone who actually has a direct bearing on the quality of your life? What, so you can't watch Batman again? - asgardshill, on 02/04/2009, -3/+50Where the hell was the director while all of this was going on? THAT'S the person to whom Bale should have read the riot act. If he can't keep random asshats from wandering into scene and pulling his actors' focus, then what good is he? Just somebody sitting around wearing a beret?
- presidentraygun, on 02/04/2009, -64/+110I cannot believe you guys are excusing his behavior. It was reprehensible. There are responsible ways to handle breeches of protocol onset. Having a screaming, raging tantrum for 5 minutes straight is completely unexcusable. If someone besides the VIP star had had that onset they would have been fired immediately and probably black balled from the industry. Bale has to follow the same social contract we all follow, his star status does not afford him the god-like ability to hand down abuse on someone and be lauded for it. And if Bale can't handle someone walking in his line of sight during a take, then I'd hate to see him try some stage acting when a guy in the front row is coughing during his big scene.
- chuckDontSurf, on 02/04/2009, -2/+48digg yesterday: There's no excuse for his behavior!!
digg today: Hmmm, that's a pretty good excuse. - BassMastr, on 02/04/2009, -51/+96There isn't another profession out there where this is allowed.
- Suzilla, on 02/04/2009, -8/+50@Charklii
If this had happened in, say, an office somewhere, or a restaurant kitchen, you would, perhaps, have a point.
This occurred on a sound stage, during shooting, during an actor's performance. If you've never acted, you probably have no idea how vulnerable you must make yourself, how truly exposed and raw your nerves and your mind and your heart really are when you're giving an intense performance. Think of it more like being in the middle of making love to someone you've desired for months, courted, wooed, and now you have your shot at something really spectacular ... the room is dark but for the candles you have lit everywhere, mood music playing ... you both writhe on satin sheets you bought especially for this occasion ...
And then your house-mate, whom you told, warned, implored! to stay the ***** away for the rest of the night, comes stumbling into the room, flips on the lights, and farts. - BigMiller, on 02/04/2009, -1/+43TO
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 02/04/2009, -1/+41Dick Puncher. They aren't very popular around the set already for obvious reasons. Messing with the lights as well as punching people in the dick per their occupation will no doubt get their ass kicked.
- soapandfoam, on 02/04/2009, -38/+77Bale is an amazing actor, and a professional artist. I don't give a rats ass about the tantrum. As a filmmaker it is complete ***** to disrupt a scene that the actor has emotionally invested himself in.
- mediablitz, on 02/04/2009, -0/+38The saying goes "There are three sides to every story: Yours, mine, and the truth".
- DulcetTone, on 02/04/2009, -0/+38Perhaps his webmaster was moving around, checking cables within his field of view.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 02/04/2009, -1/+36Shouldn't it be the director's job to keep his people on track rather than the lead actor?
- swrostmore, on 02/04/2009, -1/+36Donkey Punch
- neonoodle, on 02/04/2009, -4/+39Bale is getting 20 million a movie, so that's probably over 300k a day for filming. That DP is probably getting 8k a day. Him fiddling with the lights and causing multiple retakes is costing the production thousands, as well as breaking the concentration of the guy getting paid the most on set.
- PCGUY112887, on 02/04/2009, -2/+35Donkey Punch
- BradOFarrell, on 02/04/2009, -5/+38"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is."
"Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker."
"Yet somehow, because he's an actor." -
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