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Is it art? Teacher strips in class
edition.cnn.com — Mo Xiaoxin, a 56-year-old assistant professor at a university in Changzhou, in eastern Jiangsu province, shocked students by stripping during a lecture on "body art" to emphasize the "power" of the body and to "challenge taboos," the Beijing News said.
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- thebusdriver, on 10/12/2007, -20/+31It was a dude, thats just nasty. Even girls dont wanna see guys naked standing around.
- MiddleGirth, on 10/12/2007, -32/+19"How do you expect me to draw it if it keeps moving like that!"
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+68"am, am i supposed to draw the penis?"
- shibbay, on 10/12/2007, -8/+39am...am I supposed to conduct with my penis?
- dj_sea2005, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32"Thanks for not making fun of my genitalia"
"I thought i did..." - Kranklin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+44When i clicked the article, I thought to myself, "this better have pics!", and after i read it I though, "Damn, i'm glad it didnt have pics!"
- insidesource, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23@thewebguy + "am, am i supposed to draw the penis?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsn9rVeMv9k
(For people who may not know!) - TheKrillr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@thebusdriver
From the looks of things, you should have just said "Queue the family guy references" ;-) - pile0nades, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"Even girls dont wanna see guys naked standing around."
should be
"Even girls dont wanna see unattractive guys naked standing around." - PixelCloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12at my art and design school we had multiple nude models in a 1st year drawing class
male and female
why is this even and issue? its a university, are students not capable of dealing with a naked body?
i think the prof proved his point - Idealistic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5"It was a dude, thats just nasty. Even girls dont wanna see guys naked standing around.
Thats not what your mom said... ohhh
But really, depends on the girl, and on the guy, and if they are attracted to each other in general, or if she is turned on, or if...., or if..., or if ....
Extremely broad statements for the lose. (note the irony please) - Wooism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3First I want to express most of you making jokes are complete morons. Jokes are fair-game, but you are making ignorant jokes like "how can I draw that if you keep moving it". This was not an art class for making art, it was one for learning about the arts. If you RTFA you would know that. Ignorant humor is not funny at all.
Second, I don't see an issue with what he did. I'm sure it happens more often than you would think about here in the U.S. and no one cares. However in ultra-conservative China it is something new, and outside the borders of the norm. This makes things that would not be taboo here, taboo there.
- Noctus101, on 10/12/2007, -24/+17Now, had it been a younger female teacher, thats some art I can get behind.
- dealsdealer, on 10/12/2007, -27/+7if it were a h o t teacher , that's something i wud get on !!!!
- neomits, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44yea, I saw the headline on Cnn.com and promptly damned them for misleading me into thinking it would be a hot 20 something teacher from South Carolina. I guarentee the article would get 80% less views if it read something more like "Old Chinese bastard strips in front of class"
Actually maybe it wouldn't.- tc811, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4You're totally right, this topic turned me off when I found out it was a male teacher
- chilio, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3How come no one commented on the "young couples". at least 1 of them is young and is a female. Hope pointing this out has made your wasted 3 minutes more worth while.
- jerrysizzler, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1you're into those South Carolinian teachers, eh? well...you're...doin'...good.
- oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5556 year old asian dude strips?
how the ***** did i stumble into this thread.- kayjay, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5you thought the same as i:
wow, wonder if the teacher was hot! lets check.
BAH, some old chinese guy... i just wasted 3 minutes of my life.
DAMMIT, how do i get rid of the picture of a 56-year old guy out of my head........................ - andreas1999, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13 minutes!? i think the sensitivity settings for your mouse is set far too low. i haven't even clicked the link it yet and i still have 2 minutes to go..
- kayjay, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5you thought the same as i:
- Paroparo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28I'm not sure if communist China is the best place to break taboos nowadays. =/
- TheMrEman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Actually, some of the most interesting contemporary art *is* coming out of China, these days. living in a communist society certainly gives one plenty to critique, and there's a more pervasive *need* for expression when some much is regulated (though that's been declining, too)
- battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -20/+6Who cares - no video, no digg, me no care.
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29u wanted a vid of that?
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22It's wrong because -he- was 57. It would've been right if -she- was 27.
- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27and the best part of the article is:
"Professor Mo appeared emotionally excited at the time," the paper quoted a student as saying.- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yes... "emotionally".
- MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1pics or it didn't happen
- turbomog007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7this isn't /b/. you can trust here
- MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10it's a trap!
- SwankRock3000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14The headline is the whole thing, when you get down to the meat of the story it's really not that big a deal.
If it was a grade school teacher it would be a big deal because it would be inappropriate, if it was was younger lady university professor, it would a big deal because we'd all wish he had teachers like that.
But, it was just some old bastard taking a foolish route to try and prove a point to university kids, none of whom haven't seen tons of nudity before.
Big whoop. Why is this on CNN?- typo180, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Because CNN is all about sensationalism and they did pretty well with this one. It could have maybe been an interesting article about art and social taboo, but everyone is too busy fantasizing about the hot young teacher scenario to think about it.
- czer323, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9 I was completely dismayed.... It was a guy! and he was OLD! Marked as "getting your hopes up and crushing them into oblivion."
- rauz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11This thread is just fine without pics.
- Pyroteq, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1"Mo arranged for four other models, including a man and woman in their 70s or 80s, and a younger couple, to strip naked in front of the class while he lectured, the paper said."
70 and 80?
WHAT THE *****?! - 0101010, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0THATS HAWT!
- dj_sea2005, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1wrong button, bury
- TheSaladMan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Apparently nobody on Digg understands the concept of life drawing.
- NoNameHere, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I wonder what would happen if someone tried this kind of stunt in the USA?
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2In that case, with these models, I'd for once think the "think of the children" zealotry was warranted.
- typo180, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's tried all the time. It's called a college-level art class.
- fuzzlepop, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Whats the matter with you lot, why would it be ok if it was a hot 27year old woman? They are not there to give you pleasure. I don't see the problem, I think it was ok what he did but he should have let them all know first so anyone who wasn't interested could step out.
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4"Whats the matter with you lot, why would it be ok if it was a hot 27year old woman?"
Because they're prettier.
"They are not there to give you pleasure."
As a non-artist browsing digg for fun and not going to use a model for a painting, yes, they are. :-) - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I think almost everyone, male and female alike, can agree a young female is far more attractive than a 56-year-old male. Hell, most people, male or female, would agree a young female is still more attractive than a young male.
Does it make it any less strage? No, but it wouldn't have emotionally scared the students. - PixelCloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1figure drawing courses perfer less attractive people, their features are easier to capture
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4"Whats the matter with you lot, why would it be ok if it was a hot 27year old woman?"
- MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7it does make sense though. not everyone is 25/f/slim guys, artists should be able to accept different bodyshapes.
In short : Old Folks - They exist, its ok to draw them, but i wouldnt bang an octogenarian - Vigacmoe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3hot young female teachers, yes
nasty old male teachers, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - EV1L, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Firing squad on my mark...FIRE
- huhwhathuh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0if this is not appropriate then what is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJVwqKhaEbQ- huhwhathuh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0tough crowd, fair enough...
- burkay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Thank god I am not a teaching assistant for the jerk.
- pathy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Woah....
So... An art teacher, teaching a course about the body, strips, infront of university students?
He could have given them a warning, yes, but I see nothing wrong with it. They're mature enough to deal with it - If they felt uncomfortable they could have left. This isn't as if he stripped off infront of some underage kids - these people are adults.
If you're taking an art course about the body, expect to see a bit of penis.- hakrzcode, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1You are forgetting these are Chinese college students.
Chinese people do not call anybody adults, until they get married. All the way up to the age of 30 or so, they are into hello kitty dolls and such.
Maturity as like in the US, is not the same. Spend a few months in an asian country.
- hakrzcode, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1You are forgetting these are Chinese college students.
- mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1old balls!
- daset, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2ha-ha, his mind is too advanced
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Hubert_Farnsworth
"The Professor is also known for his inclination toward exhibitionism and does not hesitate to make naked appearances in public, stating that, like pine trees and poodles, the "primitive notions of modesty" of the twentieth century are long gone." - xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The guy gave the best lesson an art teacher could have given. It even has repercussions around the world. What better way than to show your students that art does have power, even if that art is your buttocks.
- nekteo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1maybe he inhaled execessive Viagras
- TheDrunkMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Sure its art!
Wait a minute- 57 year old man.
Not art! - tunercircle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0What did she think she is? Demi Moore ?? Too bad she's 56 .... :)
- nothing7899, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2*he*
- xsuite, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1SHES 56, FIFTY F*CKIN SIX!!!!!!!!!!! If I were her student, id leave the classroom and go watch some porn
- nothing7899, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2*HE's*
- RevHelix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That is a powerful art class,
lesson to be learned: It may not have to look good to be art, and it doesn't have to look appealing to pass a message.
Real art is not all about pretty things, but the pretty things help get the tasteless. - Kaglan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0The word is that our school the models for the art classes are disproportionatley male. (I mean, in number, not that the men are out of proportion). This isn't because of the tastes of the instructor, who is professional about such things, but simply because it is a lot easier to find guys who will take off their clothes in public than it is to find women who will take off their clothes in public.
- nixdoctor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11. I thought only women did it
2. I thought it happened only in America
Both proven wrong here!
Still, no digg, because it's NOT news/story for me. - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Bet he will get hired here with signing bonuses.
- porkstacker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That's nothing! Back when I was in college, these two girls gave a live "art demonstration" in one of my art classes on *****, in front of the class. Now THAT was something!!! No one was going to dispute their having (ful)filled the curriculum.
- 0zzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm sure... note: dont dream/sleep in class
- dealsdealer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1i have a lotta natural art on my body ..... (wink) (wink)
- eatsushi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If it weren't for people like this, the arts today would be full of landscapes of hills, fruit bowls, and kittens. While his body is nasty, I applaud his direction into which way people should look. People who joke about this are fine, but at least don't fail to see what it's really about. Any body heard of John Waters, and his movie Pink Flamingo? Talk about shock art during those times, he makes this guy look weak!
- ramiro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"While his body is nasty, I applaud his direction into which way people should look."
The article says "Some kept their eyes trained on the ceiling, some awkwardly bowed their heads and stared at the ground".
- ramiro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"While his body is nasty, I applaud his direction into which way people should look."
- fallenone05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+157 year old man naked = art
57 year old man with an errection = miracle - 0zzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If it was a girl, yes.
But it is a dude, so... sorry. - garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think the man truly made his point. So many people criticizing it without even thinking for one second the beauty of -any- human body.
He did nothing ordinary in the name of art. If you think stripping in front of college students is a big deal, you must be living in a hole in southern Iran. - Henaro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Pics or it didn't happen.
- garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah because cameras are allowed in university classes now right? Especially in China....
- medusa11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Let's get real, folks. The guy's a freak. How many teachers strip in front of their students? Not even in America. I think he was just trying to get the girls (and boys?) hot for him. Not enough action at home?
- ituloyangsulong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Freakshow!
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