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- gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+53That's gotta be rough for a guy who frequently referred to himself as "Fat Naked Fag" in front of millions of viewers.
- socbret, on 10/12/2007, -8/+48Richard Hatch, I hereby sentance you to no less than 51 months in a federal, pound me in the ass prison. Somebody had to say it...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+35Richard won Survivor because he was a lying, doublecrossing, backstabbing machine. This works for TV. This does not work with the IRS. Just another example of how "Reality TV," is far from reality.
- sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34He can now use his surviving skills for real!
- clutchperformer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30Read the indictment! Wow, this guy was behaving like a bonafide outlaw!
He was telling us how smart he was after winning! It's wasn't chance or good fortune, it was all strategic skills and interpersonal manipulation. He had it all figured out.
But altering checks and setting up dubious charities?!? Asking your accountant to create a "hypothetical" tax return and filing it despite his warnings? This is not smart!
What in the world made him think he was going to avoid paying Caesar his share? It's not like he was a low-profile individual.
There was probably an office pool at the IRS processing centers as to who was going to get to review his return. Someone's gonna' notice you are a bit short if you just won a cool mill on the highest rated TV show. - Gagle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2251 month for not-paying-taxes. Wow !
- mtwoar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23at first he was afraid? he was petrified?
- megabytehl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19@macewan
The south is the only place in the world you can go to prison for sodomy only to be sodomized in prison. - Bobski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16"Wasn't America invented so people wouldn't have to go to jail for their debts?"
Wasn't Australia invented to be One Big Jail? - Araya213, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21"Weren't jails first invented for tax evaders?"
Wasn't America invented so people wouldn't have to go to jail for their debts? I guess it's a different story when it's the govenrnment. - DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1651 months may include lying on the stand, which the Judge says he did.
FTA: "He was sentenced in May to 51 months in prison by a judge who said the reality TV star had lied repeatedly on the witness stand."
But also remember, the first survivor was back in like 1999-2000, maybe there is a steeper penalty seeing that it's over 6 years after he won. - masterjenkins, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Weren't jails first invented for tax evaders?
- snorcup, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Actaully America was 'invented' so that you did not get hung for your choice of religion, but who in thier right mind would expect kids these days to know anything about history anyways.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14@therealduckie,
don't be so insensitive - torture in prison is not supposed to be part of the punishment - DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15yea, and the "fat naked guy" better hope he doesn't drop the soap.
- DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11the reason he has to pay taxes is because it is considered income. With gifts, you don't give up anything for the money, with income, you offer services for money (e.g. his time spent on the show). this holds true for any contest, and wheter or not you get a cash prize. for example, if you win a car in a contest, you are supposed to pay taxes on the value of the car. honestly, i don't understand why they do it this way myself.
- Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15"Actaully America was 'invented' so that you did not get hung for your choice of religion, but who in thier right mind would expect kids these days to know anything about history anyways."
No but you got hung for being black.
*ducks* - kp3469, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13the punishment does not fit the crime here. unless the crime was stupidity.
- siMac, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15"Actaully America was 'invented' so that you did not get hung for your choice of religion, but who in thier right mind would expect kids these days to know anything about history anyways."
That's actually true. You can be of any religion you want, as long as it's christianity. - davidlow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"This works for TV. This does not work with the IRS."
It works in prison. - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I've never understood why winnings are taxed in the US... sure it's more money for the government, but it's pretty crappy when you win something and then have to give part of it away right off the bat. Anything you win in Canada is completely tax-free. The lottery is already partly run by the government, so if you win the jackpot - it's all yours.
- MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10richard... dick....hatch
Dick Hatch. my god, Bubba will be pleased. - fearlessfrog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Ironic, he's about to spend 51 months having a bigger *****...
- matthewmok, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I knew somebody that was in this "prison" for tax evasion. It isn't even a real prison. You can walk out and away if you wanted to. It is one of those Club med prisons.
- mousky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8So let get this straight. The guy didn't pay taxes on his $1 million prize and now he gets to spend 51 months in a taxpayer-funded facility. Who is being punished? Hatch or the taxpaying public?
- DigitalBrian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Are you kidding me? it is like him getting a Harem of bubbas, he is gonna love it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6A ridiculous near 50%.
Thank god, I don't have to pay any taxes. - thirtysixbelow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6wow. not that $500,000 is chump change, but that's ridiculous.
- davidlow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Hatch is very successful at those things. Manipulating other people by using psychology, and not being afraid to dump your best friend in favor of the next top dog, works much better in artificial environments that reward good behavior, and prison is just such a place.
This isn't science, just my uninformed opinion. But isn't there a strong resemblence between a prison with security guards and work instructions and an island with forced events and TV network taskmasters? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17I not sure why people think punishment should fit the crime. If it did then the crime would be equal in relation to the reason the crime was committed. Example: CEO of some company breaks the law by rewriting the accounting books to earn a million dollar bonus, knowing that he may get caught and only server a little time in a cozy prison. If the punishment fits the crime, he can in advance measure the risk versus reward. If the punishment is of equal or possibly less value than the reward then he's gonna do it every time. Why would people stop committing crimes then?
If anything, punishments should be randomized: from a slap on the wrist to instant death. It would be the only to prevent people from making calculated decisions to break the law. Basic game theory. - scottmoss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Hummm If I win a paycheck every week do I have to pay taxes?
- siliconglen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Should have moved to UK. Competition winnings are tax free here.
- j00fek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6rofl
- ohcoaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6My thoughts exactly. The gov first loses the money from the unpaid taxes, now it'll loose at least another $100k to keep him in jail trying to punish him. that's absolutely insane. It's impossible to punish a gay guy by sending him to jail. "i hereby sentence you to all the free anal sex gang bangs you can imagine for the next 51 months"
- drunkenrobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No taxes on winnings in Canada either. We can actually sue the US for taking our money if we win in Vegas, on a game show, or in a lottery.
- Doubledown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Most likely 51 months for perjury
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That joke was done way up the page. Sorry, you lose.
- techmonkey4u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Those that believe that tax evasion and lying to the government will get you prison time have another example of how it's true.
(I do believe in karma too though) - wuori, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Or how about just making prison a scary place to go again? Not a "come chill with your friends, watch tv, keep you drug habbit, and be out in 6 months because of overpopulation" kind of joint.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ThrasherC
True, but I'll take being able get, say, life-long cancer treatment or major surgery, free-of-charge over my taxes being a little lower. - clyde2801, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Of course, just being sentenced to live in Oklahoma for 51 months may be considered by some to be punishment enough.
- luke1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You've asked a good question. Hope this helps:
Gift taxes are very different from income taxes and are just as complicated. They're basically a tax on transferring wealth. Even though it's terribly boring, you can read more here http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=107815,00.html
Any time you receive money that is NOT a gift, it's considered to be income. Any time you receive income, it has to be reported. What Richard Hatch received was income since it could only have been a gift had some wealthy person "gifted" him the money. (Note: a person is taxed & treated very differently than a corporation.) Even money found on the street is technically taxable as income. - josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That mess he went through in Survivor was far more worse than what he'll have to do in that Minimum Security Federal Resort... Heck they even allow conjugal visits there. Even I don't get conjugal visits and I'm not even in jail...
- smoovement, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4What surprises me is that people are surprised by this.
The IRS has more power and is way more brutal than in its prosecution of offenders than any other agency of the US government.
If you want to test my hypothesis - don't file taxes for a year. At 20 years old, while serving in South Korea, I had 1 whole paycheck seized because I didn't file. It took me three months to get my money back. All the while I was due a $700 return. - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@siMac
Now, now, its safe to say that aside from very rural areas you can any religion you want aside from Muslim. I really don't think Jew's, Hindu's, Buddhists or atheist's are taken off airplanes for security or glanced at three times when walked past in public. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Couldn't have happened to a bigger *****.
- scuzzman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Gifts are only $500 or less, AFAIK. Anything in excess of that must be taxed.
- SwordofKahless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We are all slaves to the authoritarian IRS system and the punishment does not fit the crime. The IRS should be eliminated and replaced with a flat consumption tax.
- merdryn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nobody goes to jail for failure to pay. You go to jail for failure to file. And, in his case, perjury.
You lose your HOUSE for failure to pay. Your bank accounts. Whatever it takes to repay the debt, but nobody goes to jail for not PAYING their taxes. - DigitalBrian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Money makes the world go around ...
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