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- Salviati, on 03/28/2008, -5/+76And if you actually READ the Wikipedia article, you'll find out the whole thing is a myth. The only lesson to be learned from this story is how easily people will repeat unsubstantiated claims without using critical thinking: http://www.google.com/search?q=hundredth+monkey+my ...
- HeDiggMe, on 03/28/2008, -6/+27Anyone who dugg this should read The Tipping Point. The whole book is about phenomena like this work; and its a really good read.
- RoboPimp3000, on 03/28/2008, -0/+13So who was the hundredth monkey that dugg this article?
- SeldonPsych, on 03/28/2008, -1/+14This blog article is replete with errors. Sweet potatoes don't grow on koshima island; the macaques have been provisioned by scientists with the potatoes for 6 decades, and it is not their primary food - provisioning only occurs a couple times a year. Also the monkeys certainly do not discard the skin- they eat the whole thing. The monkey who invented the washing technique was a young female named Imo. Funny how the blogger assumed it was a male.
- jimbo92107, on 03/28/2008, -0/+13Unfortunately, a dumb monkey started washing sweet potatoes in a stagnant pond, because it was closer than the stream. As a result, all the local monkeys caught cholera and died, as did the monkeys on the neighboring islands.
Natives in that region say that sometimes, late at night, you can hear the ghosts of all those monkeys screaming at the dumbest monkey for giving them all such a bad idea.
Moral: Go ahead and innovate, but always check with Quality Control. - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -0/+12Just goes too show you, we're not so different.
I always rinse my chimpanzee meat, before I eat it. - Kumah, on 03/28/2008, -0/+12The monkey's dead. Maybe if you weren't so busy smoking crack and whoring yourself out you would have spent more time with your baby monkeys and taught them not to do foolish things.
- GalacticXenu, on 03/28/2008, -3/+14What a bunch of garbage. This is fiction, not fact. I can't believe how stupid so many of you are that you just blindly believe everything placed on digg--or youtube, or anywhere else, for that matter.
This has been discredited, and if you believe it, you are a complete idiot. There's no middle ground. You are very stupid if you buy into this hokum.
Seriously, is there something wrong with some of you people? - Hangly, on 03/28/2008, -0/+10Rickrolling demystified.
- SquigglyP, on 03/28/2008, -0/+9why don't I know japanese or how to skateboard?
why are so many people so incredibly stupid?
SHENANIGANS!!! - philhatesyou, on 03/28/2008, -1/+8The Hundredth Monkey Effect is *****:
http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC09/Myers.htm
http://www.csicop.org/si/9605/monkey.html - chubbybubba, on 03/28/2008, -4/+11The article was interesting at first, then became very gay. "...follow your heart..."? wtf.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -2/+8I wonder what would happen when the hundredth monkey discovers the monkeysphere.
- AlbinoRaven, on 03/28/2008, -4/+9meme
- thirteenthcor, on 03/28/2008, -0/+5It may happen that way for monkeys, but for humans, ideas rarely precipitate this way. In history many cultures are are shown where a few members out of that culture will latch onto a new idea or piece of technology through diffusion, and use it to rule and overpower those who choose to ignore the revelation.
For an example, in the mid-late 1800's muzzle loading rifles were sold/given to Maori tribesman in New Zealand; quite a few of the tribes living there knew of their existence because of trade with western culture, but decided to ignore them, not feeling like they needed any change in their way of life. However, a few tribes did, and used those rifles to subjugate the rest of the entire island killing and enslaving the tribes who did not see a need for the muskets.
so obviously, as history shows, the idea of "the hundredth monkey effect" just doesn't exist. there are always members of society who will resist change, no matter what, who follow conservative paths, and who will eventually get bowled over by the the ones who invite change and innovation.
and ideas and innovation, as shown through history, rarely come to one person, but instead are slowly put together over many ideas coming to become one. whether from entirely different societies (like along the silk road) or from within. that principle is called diffusion. Gutenberg DID in fact invent the printing press, but few people realize that the technology he used to put it together was almost all off the shelf, he simply had the bright idea to put it all together. - puffinstuff, on 03/28/2008, -1/+6mamma called the doctor and the doctor said...
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -0/+5YEAH RIGHT
And monkeys will fly outta my butt ! - barryiggins, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4stop giving these damn dirty apes acid PLEASE!
- Hangly, on 03/28/2008, -1/+5Ebonics is called African American Vernacular English now. Pass it on.
- ADrunkenMan, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4Exactly. As soon as i heard mention of the paranormal i knew something was up.
- GalacticXenu, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4No, actually; I pretty much insult people in every digg story.
- PhilLesh69, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4Is that like the matrix?
Do you mean, what would happen if the hundredth monkey discovers his reality is managed and manipulated by media and industry to steer him down a certain path? - papashawn, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4Same concept as Tipping Point, with a snazzier name. old news.
- Petrarch1603, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4read the wikipedia article it disputes the research in this blog
- patch6, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Never hurts to be skeptical of anyone claiming an event was paranormal.
- BedPost, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3You're new here, aren't you?
- RoboPimp3000, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3The Tipping Point is a good read with some thought-provoking ideas, but it's not much more than an extended pop-sci magazine article. Gladwell not once gives a counter-argument or relates an anecdote that might disprove this theories, even to rebut them. The whole book is "Here's my hypothesis. Here are Examples." No discussion or debate. It's fun reading but not hard science.
- PhilLesh69, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3But not neocons. Those folks still insist that the earth is only 6,000 years old, and that fossils were placed here by God to test our faith.
Those neanderthals are beyond the scope of reality and science.
Those idiots are probably undermining the "100th monkey theory" of collective intellectual growth. In fact, once you get 100 of those monkey neocons thinking, they probably collectively destroy eons of human progress. - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3----"this story is how easily people will repeat unsubstantiated claims without using critical thinking"---------
You mean like Religion?
Actually, one of the main reasons I denounced my Christian faith is because I can't find one single shred of evidence for the Jesus of the Bible. Not one artifact or eyewitness account. Not even in the Bible.
Amazingly, we have not one Jewish, Greek, or Roman writer, even those who lived in the Middle East, much less anywhere else on the earth, who ever mentions him during his supposed life time. This appears quite extraordinary, and you will find few Christian apologists who dare mention this embarrassing fact.
After confronting a few Church members with this new knowledge for lack of evidence, they seemed to get defensive and angry, not merciful and understanding. It then became painfully obvious that these people seems to have NO interest whatsoever in scientific debate. It seems all they care about is re-affirming their superstitious beliefs of disturbing stories of hell and damnation and devils and eternal suffering and ramming them down the throats of unsuspecting children.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong about this. But so far I haven't been. - noahgelman, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3if you dont get it (also a really good article)
http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysp ... - rapincandy, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3you're movin to you aunt and uncle's in Bel Air...
- CoolWind, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2Read the wikipedia article and realize that you have been duped.
- noctu, on 03/28/2008, -2/+4I have seen this very thing on digg many times, now bury me monkeys.
- Peko, on 03/28/2008, -2/+4Peer Pressure causes people to conform; Story at 11.
- SeldonPsych, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2The hundredth monkey effect has zero credibility in academia. Sweet potato washing, however, was the first observed case of cultural innovation by non-human primates, and it marked the beginning of japanese primatology in the early fifties. I'm sure that the scientists who first observed the potato washing are rolling in their graves at how this 'hundred monkey' crap has come to be associated with their work.
- HeDiggMe, on 03/28/2008, -2/+4about *how* phenomena like this work
- crazyeyezkilla, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2I hate every ape I see, from chimpanA to chimpanZ.
(-Troy McClure) - TomJohn, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2So... Is the hundredth monkey the one that writes "Gone With the Wind"?
P.S. Buried for being stupid crap. (And just how does one monkey "ridicule" another?) - Spoomeister, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2Not in my monkeysphere, so don't care.
www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/monkeysphere.html - oblique63, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2thats seriously the worst you've heard?... man, that sounds like propper brittish grammar school english compared to some of the stuff I hear around some of my neigborhoods... shiet, u bests nah even try tuh axe me bout dat shiet...
- oblique63, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2I dont know about you, but that happens to me every time I eat ben & jerry's... it just comes out extra chunky...
- Lewie, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2I believe this is what you're talking about: http://www.redorbit.com/news/display/?id=126649
- notmike721, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3Fortunately no one read the wikipedia article, so no one was bothered by the fact t was a myth.
Not like it matters though, if enough people read this article we'll all know it anyways. - PhilLesh69, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1But what are we calling african-americans, now?
I've always hated that term. "African-American", while I am a descendant of an Irish immigrant, and a prussian immigrant, and a scottish immigrant, so what am I? "Irish-scottish-prussian-american"??
I don't believe Black people have a problem with being called black. I'm sure they don't like being called negro or n!gger, which is undoubtedly derogatory and hateful. But to be called "A hyphenated american" is not much better. Skin color is undeniable. I'm white. Some people are black, some people are brown. Skin color is intrinsic. It has nothing to do with any stereotype, it doesn't make a person who they are, for the most part, other than simple basic social affinities and where they came from.
I grew up in Hawaii. If you've ever been there, you'd realize that every race, every skin color all exist in the same basic human nature of desiring food, water, sex, and everything else.
We all pursue the same basic instinctual and social goals. We all want to have kids, raise our kids, build a little wealth, and live our lives.
I hate that Hillary created her "Politically correct" movement back in the 1990's. She divided more than anyone since the 1960's. - MentalHazard, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1It was the best of times, it was the Blurst of times? You stupid monkey!
- PhilLesh69, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1Dude, seriously, stop plugging infowars.com. The layout of that site is not very good. It is hard to figure out, and the information isn't represented logically.
Plug http://www.prisonplanet.com , it is also an Alex Jones site, but he presents his news in a categorized and logical way on that site.
I don't know why he doesn't just redirect infowars.com to prisonplanet.com. It's not that hard, even with past articles, I've done that on a half-dozen sites, where even their archives match up using Apache's mod_rewrite module. - RexxxMaster, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1http://www.losethegame.com/ you just losts again...
- dulymachine, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1A million monkeys on a million typewriters
- PhilLesh69, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1But it is not paranormal, at all.
I know most people just "go along to get along", but once you think about it, how does a society function? I mean, really?
Social order tends to follow the same principle. Why did the Mayans, the Aztecs and the Egyptians (and now we are finding out the Chinese may have also) all build pyramids? How did those disconnected societies all decide to build one form or another of a pyramid?
It is collective thought. It's not like we all think the same thing, for god's sake! Otherwise, we wouldn't have wars, and religious conflict, and racism, and fear of those who don't look like us. It is just simply ideas that we all share, and we cannot even explain how we all had these ideas, they just became self evident, and even as though they were always there.
To say this is paranormal is like saying that abstract thought, human intelligence is paranormal. Who knows why we can ponder our own existence, or create language, and mathematics, and science. We just do. Who knows why humans developed the use of tools in disconnected regions of the world. It just happened. - PhilLesh69, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1Being rational is the key.
The first rational idea is that, basically, we will never know the truth. Assuming there was complicity by people within our own government, they were sure to obfuscate the facts as best they could. If it didn't actually happen as we were told, if the whole thing was orchestrated, then the information we've been given is constructed in a way to make it impoosible to reach any conclusion other than the one they want us to believe.
It is like the JFK assassination. I think at this point, most people realize that the official story isn't exactly the way it happened. But nobody agrees, even with E Howard Hunt's deathbead confession, that it was the CIA, or the Mafia, or Castro, or the KGB. They just know that it wasn't how we were told by the Warren Commission.
But you are better off, as a rational and reasonable person, to understand that the party line is not the truth. The truth was, intentionally, made elusive. And then by knowing that, understanding that there are repercussions that we should not buy into.
Just like Vietnam was a result of JFK's assassination, so was 9/11 an impetus for the invasion of Iraq.
So just understand that the Project For a New American Century wrote a September 2000 report, "On Rebuilding America's Defenses", calling for American hegemony, and noted that in order to go forward with their plans, there would need to be a catalyzing and catastrophic event, like a "New Pearl Harbor". -
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