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- OpenRevolt, on 09/28/2008, -16/+192Take a break from the Obama worshiping and McCain smearing and do something that actually matters!
DIGG! - unownednews, on 09/28/2008, -16/+192make this go viral. this bill MUST fail.
- MG1234, on 09/28/2008, -36/+1711933/2001+ parallels accelerating..
1) Mein Kampf/Project New American Century
2) 3rd Reich/43rd Administration
3) Reichstag fire/9-11
4) Austria (Anschluss)-Czechoslovakia (Munich Agreement)-
Poland/Afghanistan-Iraq-Iran
5) Enabling Act/Patriot Act
6) Gestapo/Blackwater
7) Weimar Republic bankruptcy/Federal Reserve bailout
collapsing economy
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560 ...
declaring martial law
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homelan ...
assuming dictatorship
http://www.ww4report.com/node/3940 - ka9dgx, on 09/28/2008, -10/+120This is the clearest and most coherent explanation of the issues at stake I've ever encountered. Please spend the 10 minutes and spread the word... we must make our voices heard and stop the bailout.
- mysingerd, on 09/28/2008, -5/+87The American People are complacent on most issues, but everyone has their breaking point. I believe our government has finally done something dumb enough that the majority of Americans are outraged.
We may seem casual but when you do something to piss us off you will find out what a real American is like. - gardengrocer, on 09/28/2008, -11/+87This guy tells it like it is! NO Bailout,not one dime for wall street.
- raisputin3, on 09/28/2008, -5/+77The overwhelming majority of Americans DO NOT WANT this bailout to happen. Where the hell is our "Representation" in Congress? You want to know? OUR Representation is in bed with ISrael, AIPAC and Big Business. They don't give a damn about average Americans.
Our Representatives and Senators no longer Represent the people of this country. They represent only greed, a coporatocracy if you will. We, The People need to rise up in one voice and get rid of all of these bums. First we need to do it at the polls, and if that doesn't work, well, there are always "other" alternatives :) - WWFP, on 09/28/2008, -3/+72Yes, the bill will pass. Now let's throw the bums out. Anybody that voted in favor of this bill, no matter what form it ultimately takes, should be looking for a job after the election.
- inactive, on 09/28/2008, -8/+61Time for a change of leadership.........kick them out.
http://www.voterbomb.com/2008/
http://www.campaignforliberty.com - lazerus9, on 09/28/2008, -2/+49Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson - voicce, on 09/28/2008, -5/+40Even as I type this we are being sold out by our own representatives AND the 2 presidential candidates. Unite with all freedom fighters to dump the establishment tools, vote 3rd Party!
- inactive, on 09/28/2008, -2/+3514 POINTS OF FASCISM
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
5. Rampant sexism
6. A controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
9. Power of corporations protected
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent elections
- Dr. Laurence Britt (2004)
Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile).
"What no one seemed to notice. . . was the ever widening gap. . .between the government and the people. . . And it became always wider. . . the whole process of its coming into being, was above all diverting, it provided an excuse not to think for people who did not want to think anyway . . . (it) gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about . . .and kept us so busy with continuous changes and 'crises' and so fascinated . . . by the machinations of the 'national enemies,' without and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us. . .
Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, 'regretted,' that unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these 'little measures'. . . must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. . . .Each act. . . is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.
You don't want to act, or even talk, alone. . . you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' . . .But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves, when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. . . .You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things your father. . . could never have imagined." :
- Milton Mayer
(thanks to www.ellensplace.net) - dmlTucson, on 09/28/2008, -5/+38The enemy is not and has never been Al Qaeda, Islam, Muslims, etc. The enemy is within…
"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Orator - 106-43 B.C. - inactive, on 09/28/2008, -6/+38This bailout is for China and other foreign investors. Once the American taxpayers have been stuck with all the toxic debt, the Chinese and other foreign investors will swoop in and buy up America. And the Dollar wil no longer be a World Reserve Currency. We will suffer the fate of 3rd World Countries that have fallen into debt - hyper-inflation. Austerity measures will be imposed on the American People. The only thing protecting us right now is the "poison pill" of bad debt. If foreign investors want to buy up US assets, then at least force them to assume the toxic debt along with the good assets. Then there will at least be a side benefit to the US economy.
This bailout is a gift from the traitor Paulson, also known as "Mr. China", to foreign investors.
"Can Hank Paulson Bring China and the U.S. Together?" - Time Magazine, Jan. 18, 2007
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1580043,0 ...
"At the same time, Beijing views Paulson as a "Friend of China." During his tenure as CEO, Goldman Sachs advised the government on numerous privatizations of state-owned companies. Paulson himself was a key behind-the-scenes force in the controversial—and ultimately unsuccessful—attempt by state-controlled oil producer CNOOC to buy U.S.-based Unocal."
"Bailout will turn China into economic superpower"
http://futurenewstoday.blogspot.com/2008/09/bailou ...
Bailout will be followed by Sellout to China
http://futurenewstoday.blogspot.com/2008/09/bailou ... - imightbewrong, on 09/28/2008, -4/+34who the ***** is this guy?
- lazerus9, on 09/28/2008, -2/+31This representative really hits the nail on the head!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32ds - lazerus9, on 09/28/2008, -2/+30"The issue which has swept down the centuries
and which will have to be fought sooner or later
is the people versus the banks."
Lord Acton - inactive, on 09/28/2008, -0/+27Nobody's telling the American People that they will have to pay for this through higher taxes or hyper-inflation or both. So people are not nearly as riled up as they should be. People still fall for that "read my lips, no new taxes" scam.
Bush is using fear mongering to win support just like he did for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act. Even though people are opposed to the bailout, they still think that this is somehow necessary. This is the battle that we face in convincing people that this is not at all necessary and in fact will only make things worse for the American People in the long run. - submitter001, on 09/28/2008, -4/+31This guy has a petition on his website, if you sign it and put your congressional district it will automatically send faxes to your senators, congressmen, Obama, McCain and Bush. http://financialpetition.org/petition-nobail.shtml
- ka9dgx, on 09/28/2008, -1/+27It's not done until the deal is actually signed into law, and the money is spent... there is still time to stop it.
- odigity, on 09/28/2008, -6/+31More like observant with no preconceived notions about what's possible and not possible.
- wjappe, on 09/28/2008, -3/+28It's coming from the top, we have to get rid of the scum in the Whitehouse first! What kind of government rules are there that won't allow a corrupt presidency from being investigated and removed as necessary. They are pulling all the strings and won't allow anyone to dislodge them, controlling the congress, and the judges. They have planned this. It seems to be a weakness in the Constitution as well as letting the money lenders to run amok with our money. We have the most un-american presidency in our history. This is going to be the downfall of us all.
- GrObserver, on 09/28/2008, -17/+39I know this will be unpopular to say (and very cliche), but seriously ... if the financial and economic power of this country is destroyed, the terrorists/Al Qaeda REALLY HAVE WON. That is what they said they set out to do many years ago. Whether they are the perpetrators or not would be irrelevant. The goal would be realized. You cannot be a military superpower and be economically weak. Period. I am very concerned about my country right now and I feel they are rushing into things once again without really looking at all the options.
- inactive, on 09/28/2008, -8/+30RON PAUL PREDICTED THE BAILOUT!!!!!! RON PAUL TOLD BERNANKE HE WAS ***PURPOSEFULLY*** DEVALUING THE DOLLAR!
- StultusJuventus, on 09/28/2008, -8/+30I'd like to see a viral counter-argument.
The bailout isn't about trust. It's about bank failure leading to loss of liquidity and the disappearance of loans and therefore growth money in our economy.
I know i'll be dugg down but please, give me a coherent reply. How can our economy survive the total loss of liquidity and loans? I don't understand this kneejerk reaction against government intervention. Sure the banks were greedy, sure they messed up. However, without them and for the foreseeable future, our economy does NOT function. - argoff, on 09/28/2008, -3/+23It is easy to show that the bailout will actually make the housing crises worse. You see the government needs to get that 700 billion dollars from somewhere. If they get it from the economy, it becomes harder for people to pay on their mortgages and things get worse. If they get it from the Federal Reserve using printed up money to buy US treasuries (most likely). That waters down the value of our money, and will make the cost of living way more expensive for home owners already maxed out in debt - causing the housing crises to get worse.
- archer104, on 09/28/2008, -2/+22Be informed Diggers!
Bill Clinton on the bailout
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx ...
Warren Buffett on the bailout
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/28/bailout.dea ...
The results of Japan and Sweden dealing with their own bailouts
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hPc0IQEkzBbqviB ... - aftern9ne, on 09/28/2008, -8/+27A 10 minute viral video? Are you retarded?
- aargh01, on 09/28/2008, -1/+17March on Washington! How come there is still no massive public protest of this? Millions of people should be in the streets, right now! March before it is too late, Americans! Your friends in the rest of the world want to see you reclaim the American dream from the hands of your corrupt government!
March! - raisputin3, on 09/28/2008, -3/+18GrObserver. The "Terrorists" have already won. They changed our way of life. Simple, unfortunately everyone is looking abroad for these "Terrorists" when we should be looking right at Washington D.C. That is where the terrorists are!
- inactive, on 09/28/2008, -2/+16Notice that he doesn't blame the current mess on "subprime" lending. That is a ruse being used to deflect blame from the Wall St. Gangstas that have been running a Ponzi scheme. Put them all behind bars.
- inactive, on 09/28/2008, -8/+22Time for a chance of government......
- spyd3rweb, on 09/28/2008, -4/+18The Bush family has a fairly deeply rooted relationship with Nazism and Hitler... it can't be helped.
- inactive, on 09/28/2008, -0/+13Convincing yourself to buy what you cannot afford is foolish.
Convincing someone else to buy what they cannot afford is a Con.
Buying bad debt at a premium is criminal. - theOster, on 09/28/2008, -0/+12and this is why we cannot be afraid of "throwing away" our votes to third parties. if we all vote for the people we honestly think should be there, it could have an effect.
- stonewaljacksn, on 09/28/2008, -3/+15***** McBama.
- Neoanarchist, on 09/28/2008, -2/+14A book that addresses all of these topics and even more parallels between other open then closed societies is The End of America by Naomi Wolf. She puts the issues in a short concise plea to the citizens of America and I highly recommend this book.
Amazon.com link: http://www.amazon.com/End-America-Letter-Warning-P ... - inactive, on 09/28/2008, -2/+13A huge fraud that is being perpetrated upon the American People is that these Financial Institutions are just too big, and if they fail then the Sun will darken, the sky will fall and we will all be in mud huts by Christmas. That's just not so. A restructuring of the debt Must occur and new equilibrium based upon Real Value must be reached before repair can begin. Losses Will be taken by these houses, but those assets that are of value, Real estate (at true value), Contracts for Durable goods, and securities that are based upon Real property will Continue to Have value, and restructuring the high risk paper into less volatile instruments will stabilize the markets and work to ensure that value remains.
1)Repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that undid the safeguards put in place after the great depression.
2)Abolish the CRM and the Requirement by congress for banks to make, and the ability of Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae to buy High Risk loans.
3)Change the bankruptcy law so that judges have the ability to restructure these ARM's, Interest only, and balloon mortgages into 30yr Fixed rate loans.
The cost of buying All the bad loans is estimated at about 100-150b...700b is a hose job.
Consider the result of simply printing 700b new dollars, and what it will do to the value of the dollars you already hold? Do so now. There will not be a happy ending. I remember the late 70's and Stagflation (Google it) and if we do this the nightmare we had in the 70's will be a warm and fuzzy memory to what we will have as a result of this asinine policy. Stagflation on steroids. - inactive, on 09/28/2008, -3/+14Everyone needs to calm down. I think everyone is over reacting including the Congress. Congress is rushing into something that not a lot of people have studied and no one knows the effectiveness of this bailout or the long term effects of this decision.
- swrostmore, on 09/28/2008, -6/+16Does this video propose what the actual solution should be?
- billyjack1958, on 09/28/2008, -0/+9Google "Cloward-Piven Strategy". The biggest recipients of welfare or tax-payer funded handouts have, for years now, been corporate America although many would have you believe otherwise. Keep shoveling the money towards corporations and it'll keep pushing more taxpayers towards poverty/welfare. Keep pouring from an empty cup and you'll also have enslaved future generations.
- FongoBongo, on 09/28/2008, -3/+12The bailout will only perpetuate this problem and make things worst. I don't understand how some people are so eager to give Wall Street billions without any commitment to fixing the real problem at hand. This isn't randomly generated play-money being printed, this is the economic well being of the U.S. on the line as well as the rest of the world. Get your wheelbarrows ready.
- algaeturd, on 09/28/2008, -0/+9And this administration is complacent in the destruction. They chased the red herring and siphoned all of your money into this worthless cause. And Americans CHEERED for it, no less. They literally burned trillions of your tax dollars for absolutely NOTHING.
They won all right. It's a shaem but that's what they set out to do. They didn't want to destroy a building apparently. They wanted to destroy our economy. And nobody was smart enough to put the brakes on and save it. - badqat, on 09/28/2008, -1/+10Uh...you realize that Bush is a lame duck, right?
And you also realize that the democrats in congress are not only the loudest cheerleaders but rushed blindly to support the Paulson plan. - skunkman62, on 09/28/2008, -1/+10this is the only comment on the tread that makes any sense.
- debunkthelies, on 09/28/2008, -4/+13Liars and Thieves, its time to take them out, VOTE !!
- gswentz, on 09/28/2008, -5/+14Congressional switachboard:
202-224-3121
CALL NOW - mysingerd, on 09/28/2008, -2/+10I don't believe we have any serious options available. It's going to happen. This is just political positioning so that they can claim they tried to avoid it, and lay blame on their opponents.
- VBVBeach, on 09/28/2008, -4/+12I forwarded this video to both of my senators and my house rep as well as all contacts. I recommend everyone else do the same!
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