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- ponstars, on 11/08/2007, -13/+7It's ridiculous!!!
- wpennb, on 11/09/2007, -6/+14It's ridiculous that American's pay so little for their petrol. Most of it (3/4) comes from overseas. Your dollar is tanking. You better get used to high petrol costs.
- lOvOl, on 11/09/2007, -4/+11In Euros, you would be paying $2.04 per gallon so it is not that ridiculous from that vantage point (gas still costs a lot more in Europe because of taxes, but at least that money goes back into the nation's treasury rather than into the pockets of oil exporters).
Gas prices are going up because the dollar is going way down. In fact, I am surprised we are not at $4 dollar gas already with the steep decline in the United States dollar. I would not be too surprised if by next summer we have $10 gas thanks to hyperinflation.- Dohko_Xar, on 11/09/2007, -7/+5There is nothing worst than someone who has no idea of what he is talking about. Your second paragraph is BS
- k3ano, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2Why? Everyday there is more news about the dollar tanking and everyday the dollar loses value against the major currencies of the world. One can only guess as to when or if the dollar will collapse but the future is looking bleak, many investors feel the same and that's why more are distancing themselves away from the dollar.
The US dollar index is at the lowest it ever has been and shows no sign of climbing back up, the fed are making temporary fixes to keep the economy afloat but they can only cut interest rates so many times.
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX
If I was in the US and had savings I'd look for something safe to invest my money in.
- k3ano, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2Why? Everyday there is more news about the dollar tanking and everyday the dollar loses value against the major currencies of the world. One can only guess as to when or if the dollar will collapse but the future is looking bleak, many investors feel the same and that's why more are distancing themselves away from the dollar.
- Dohko_Xar, on 11/09/2007, -7/+5There is nothing worst than someone who has no idea of what he is talking about. Your second paragraph is BS
- trunkster, on 11/09/2007, -5/+8How about high gas prices and free universal health care, that would be nice.
- Awspire, on 11/09/2007, -8/+12Sounds good. So half my income will go to fueling my car, and the other half to provide healthcare for all the lazy asses that don't want to work for a living or sneak into the the country and get medical on my dime. Bravo.
- Lewie, on 11/09/2007, -6/+10Because only lazy people are poor and can't afford health care. And the rich deserve all their money because they don't ride on the backs of their workers, or send their jobs overseas.
- Awspire, on 11/09/2007, -8/+12Sounds good. So half my income will go to fueling my car, and the other half to provide healthcare for all the lazy asses that don't want to work for a living or sneak into the the country and get medical on my dime. Bravo.
- apeweek, on 11/09/2007, -0/+3It's ridiculous how long people will put up with this. The technology below has been available for decades.
I drive an electric car that only cost me a few thousand dollars. Look around for EV conversions - cars converted to electric by small entrepreneurs or hobbyists. My car doesn't have a great range, but it does freeway speeds, and handles 90% of my day to day driving. And it costs about a penny per mile for the electricity.
Standard vehicles cost 10 to 30 cents/mile for gasoline, depending on fuel prices and car type. This saves me hundreds of dollars/month.
Lead-acid batteries are not cutting edge or exciting, but they only cost me a few hundred dollars when I replace them. - falstaff, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1Yeah, I mean what do we have to do to secure some cheap energy around here, start a war or something?
- theNazz, on 11/11/2007, -2/+65I haven't paid under $3 a gallon in years. I wonder why I'm paying the same price for gas at $100 a barrel as I was when it was trading at $60-$70.
- wangarific, on 11/09/2007, -1/+19trading and reality are two different things... it's cheap at the pump because refining capacity has increased since when it was 60-70. or it's a conspiracy, take your pick :)
plus, anyone who only realizes NOW that cheap energy is over has been living under a rock for the last year or so - synce, on 11/10/2007, -21/+4You're paying because you're an idiot. Keep suporting the oil industry and they'll keep ***** you over. Ride a bike, walk. If you're driving, car pool and use something with good gas mileage
- MindTrigger, on 11/09/2007, -2/+12Do all of you morons think people are just singles, with jobs only a couple miles down the road? What should people do with their families, put a sidecar on the bike? Should they ask their carpool to drop their kids off at school?
- Mothrog, on 11/08/2007, -3/+10"Should they ask their carpool to drop their kids off at school?"
Last I knew schools had things called buses which are kinda like one big giant car pool.
- Mothrog, on 11/08/2007, -3/+10"Should they ask their carpool to drop their kids off at school?"
- snea, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Those things aren't an option for everyone. For example: I live 36 miles from work and my schedule is too erratic to carpool. Also, although I live far from work and spend quite a bit on fuel it would be even more cost prohibitive for me to move closer to work. Finding a job closer to home? Perhaps someday, but for now I am doing very good where I am at and an equal or better opportunity closer to where I live simply does not exist at this time.
- MindTrigger, on 11/09/2007, -2/+12Do all of you morons think people are just singles, with jobs only a couple miles down the road? What should people do with their families, put a sidecar on the bike? Should they ask their carpool to drop their kids off at school?
- TrevorBradley, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4You're Canadian?
The price of oil really hasn't changed too much in CAD$, and gas prices are up about 10% in the last year (somewhat high this week in Vancouver: 1.10 a litre or ~$4.70 a gallon US). I could be all gloaty and say oil really isn't increasing, the American dollar is decreasing, but that's perhaps only 80% of it. The other 20% is that Canada's currency appears tied to the price of oil right now. - serpentor, on 11/09/2007, -2/+3The price of wholesale gasoline hasn't matched the rise in crude oil because there's roughly a 6 month lag in the refining cycle. Rest assured by spring/summer '08 we will no longer be seeing flat gasoline prices..
- Emmo213, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Wait wait wait. When there's the possibility of a hurricane the gas price jumps overnight . If there's a problem at a refinery the gas price jumps overnight. When we go to war the gas price jumps overnight. Now you're saying that the price isn't going to show for 6 months? I'm thinking somebody isn't telling the whole truth. I'm also thinking that somebody is the oil companies.
- joshuaer, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2it is 2,97 in MN right now WOW not 3 bucks, you bring up a good point when it was 60 a barrel why was a paying 2.85 and now it is 100 and i am paying 2.97
- gal3on64, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2It's $2.70 out here in Arizona.
- cherwilco, on 11/08/2007, -0/+12.81 as of yesterday afternoon here in tucson
- myotive, on 11/08/2007, -0/+23.09 here in Ohio :(
- h4ppydotcom, on 11/08/2007, -3/+2...and about $9.40 a gallon in London (UK).
We were already paying about $5 a gallon (80p per litre) before the dollar devalued and oil prices went up and are now paying about $9.40 a gallon (98p per litre).- myotive, on 11/09/2007, -2/+2Suddenly $3.09 doesn't seem so bad....:)
- scottbuzz, on 11/08/2007, -0/+0It's been over 3.50 In San Francisco forever. I've seen it hit almost 4.00 many times.
- McGrude, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Premium was at $4.05 at one station in Oakland, CA yesterday.
- wangarific, on 11/09/2007, -1/+19trading and reality are two different things... it's cheap at the pump because refining capacity has increased since when it was 60-70. or it's a conspiracy, take your pick :)
- Rolamoto, on 11/08/2007, -3/+12I'm glad I don't have to drive too much.
- joshuaer, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2i agree i have a home office and as much as i hate being in my house 15 or more hours a day it is sure nice to only put 50 miles a month in my car!
- uploadjoe, on 11/09/2007, -5/+13Time to pre-order a SmartCar.
- borninda818, on 11/09/2007, -15/+5Call me whatever you want, but I wouldn't be seen dead in that "car".
- sadler121, on 11/09/2007, -2/+14With the number of SUV's in the US, you would probably would end up dead in that car.
- Amazetbm, on 11/09/2007, -6/+11More like with the number of SUV wielding, non-hands free cellphone using soccer moms on the road in the US, you would probably end up dead in that car.
- mOdQuArK, on 11/09/2007, -2/+6Give it a few years. When the price of gas gets high enough, all but the richest of those soccer moms will be able to afford to drive those SUVs. The kids will have to bike to their soccer games (which might be a good thing).
- pintomp3, on 11/09/2007, -0/+4nah, you can lose them if there is a slight bend in the road.
- Amazetbm, on 11/09/2007, -6/+11More like with the number of SUV wielding, non-hands free cellphone using soccer moms on the road in the US, you would probably end up dead in that car.
- sadler121, on 11/09/2007, -2/+14With the number of SUV's in the US, you would probably would end up dead in that car.
- presidentjapan, on 11/11/2007, -3/+12I wouldn't even bother getting a SmartCar. Still uses gasoline, which doesn't really solve much of a problem as much as I'm concerned.
Wait until electric cars are available. Or ride a bike. Or take public transit. Or walk. Or carpool. You've got so many other options, a car isn't necessary. Use them.- MindTrigger, on 11/09/2007, -2/+22Yeah wait for electric plug-ins because electricity comes from magical jellybean fields.....
- apeweek, on 11/09/2007, -3/+2Electric cars only make a fraction of the pollution gas cars do, even when plants burn coal. This is possible because of improved efficiencies all along the fuel chain: Fuel burns far more efficiently in a big plant than it does in your car; sending energy via wire is far more efficient than trucking fuel all around; and the EV's motor is over 90% efficient.
- apeweek, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1Did you know you drive an electric car already? It's true. Lots of electricity is used to refine gasoline. And lots of pollution is made during refining. Lots more pollution is made transporting that gasoline to thousands of service stations (a step EVs don't need.) Of course, plenty of pollution is made burning gas in an inefficient gas engine. You are lucky to achieve even 10% efficiency driving in city traffic.
Honestly, for pollution and inefficiency, nothing else compares with gasoline. Anything else is an improvement. Even considering dirty fuel burning in powerplants, EVs only make about 3% of the pollution gas-fueled cars do. - apeweek, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Sorry, I can see my comments aren't very popular with the people who voted up the parent comment. I can't help myself. Would you like to see studies?
Here's a summary of several studies which show the well-to-wheels lifecycle of EVs. It shows they are responsible for much less pollution over their lifetimes:
http://sherryboschert.com/Downloads/Emissions%5B9% ...
Here's a recent study that shows that EV's only make 3% of the pollution gas vehicles make:
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/electri ...
actual study: http://www.energy.ca.gov/papers/CEC-999-1996-015.P ...
Quote from above: "...in a study conducted by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, EVs were significantly cleaner over the course of 100,000 miles than ICE cars. The electricity generation process produces less than 100 pounds of pollutants for EVs compared to 3000 pounds for ICE vehicles."
- MonkeyFarts, on 11/09/2007, -0/+4"Wait until electric cars are available. Or ride a bike. Or take public transit. Or walk. Or carpool. You've got so many other options, a car isn't necessary. Use them."
And in the land of reality and feasibility, people that need to travel regularly and over long distances in order to make ends meet will be needing gasoline-powered cars in the meantime. - Elranzer, on 11/08/2007, -2/+4"Wait until electric cars are available. Or ride a bike. Or take public transit. Or walk. Or carpool. You've got so many other options, a car isn't necessary. Use them."
In the big cities, maybe. Not in rural America, where Jesus drives an SUV. The only buses you might see are school buses full of white children.- daysofgreen, on 11/08/2007, -2/+1I love you and you crazy liberal way of putting things.
- apeweek, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Wake up. Electric cars are available, at reasonable prices, if you buy an EV conversion. Conversions are created by small entrepreneurs or hobbyists. This is what I drive. I bought mine used (mine is quite old, but EVs last a long time, the motors are very reliable) for just $2000 on eBay. It does freeway speeds, and costs me about a penny per mile for electricity.
http://squidoo.com/cheap-electric-car - ashmael, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1If you live in a city, biking usually isn't much of an option. Roads packed with cars who think they deserve the road more than bikers make for an life-threatening situation every commute. Even if you survive the stress of it is bad enough to make you hate both bikes and cars.
- MindTrigger, on 11/09/2007, -2/+22Yeah wait for electric plug-ins because electricity comes from magical jellybean fields.....
- cbuddha42, on 11/08/2007, -2/+5Hey, guess what, moving from point A to point B still takes energy. The de facto way of getting energy out of a stored form right now is burning. Getting an electric car isn't going to save the environment, and electricity prices will rise along with fuel prices. You simply can't create energy from nothing.
- Ludnix, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Electric cars however, have many more sources for energy than combustion engines do.
- Mothrog, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4Too bad there aren't enough power plants out there to support an entire nation driving electric cars.
- spudnic, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2It's a real shame they can't build more if demand increases.
- apeweek, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1There's plenty of electric power available. Don't forget that EVs charge mostly at night.
Source:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/06121 ...
Mileage From Megawatts: Study Finds Enough Electric Capacity To 'Fill Up' Plug-in Vehicles
Science Daily — If all the cars and light trucks in the nation switched from oil to electrons, idle capacity in the existing electric power system could generate most of the electricity consumed by plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. A new study for the Department of Energy finds that "off-peak" electricity production and transmission capacity could fuel 84 percent of the country's 220 million vehicles if they were plug-in hybrid electrics.
Another one: http://groovygreen.com/groove/?p=1782
"According to a recent U.S. Department of Energy study, there is so much excess energy on the U.S. grid nightly that if every light-duty car and truck in America today used plug-in hybrid technology, 73 percent of them could be plugged in and “fueled” without constructing a single new power plant."
- Mothrog, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4Too bad there aren't enough power plants out there to support an entire nation driving electric cars.
- apeweek, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Incorrect. The EV is the cleanest of all the alternative fuel options. An EV makes just 3% of the pollution a gas car creates - even if plants burn coal, according to a recent study.
Sources:
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/electri ...
http://www.energy.ca.gov/papers/CEC-999-1996-015.P ...
"...in a study conducted by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, EVs were significantly cleaner over the course of 100,000 miles than ICE cars. The electricity generation process produces less than 100 pounds of pollutants for EVs compared to 3000 pounds for ICE vehicles."
- Ludnix, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Electric cars however, have many more sources for energy than combustion engines do.
- Brian48216, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3smart cars actually don't get as good fuel mileage as you'd think it gets unless you go with the diesel version
- neiltc13, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2My Smart Roadster gets over 50mpg.
- kday, on 11/08/2007, -2/+4Or just get a Prius.
Prius - EPA-estimated 55 mpg
Smart - EPA-estimated 45 mpg
55 mpg not enough? Try some mods to improve the gas mileage significantly.
That being said, the Prius and the Smart are the two ugliest cars on this planet. If I HAD to choose one of them, I would choose the Prius since it is slightly less ugly (the extra gas mileage is a bonus). Personally, I'm not ready for a hybrid until they look better, have significantly more power, and cost significantly less than the Lexus LS Hybrid. http://www.lexus.com/models/LSh/- epyon180, on 11/08/2007, -0/+7Yeah, that 10 extra mpg is totally worth the $10,000 extra that the prius costs.
- Ultramagnus0001, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2Read this month's motor trend, you also get tax breaks and all kinda a other ***** that balances the extra cost of the car
- daysofgreen, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1did you seriously start off talking about saving money on gas, then take it to them both being to ugly for you?
- Ultramagnus0001, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2Read this month's motor trend, you also get tax breaks and all kinda a other ***** that balances the extra cost of the car
- epyon180, on 11/08/2007, -0/+7Yeah, that 10 extra mpg is totally worth the $10,000 extra that the prius costs.
- borninda818, on 11/09/2007, -15/+5Call me whatever you want, but I wouldn't be seen dead in that "car".
- kbeeveer46, on 11/08/2007, -0/+8It's been over $3 in Indiana for 2 weeks now.
- steveL88, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4It's been longer than that here in Indy I think. This makes my 3 hour drive from my college campus back to home cost roughly $30 each way ... it's sad that I can't go home when I want/need to just because I can't afford the gasoline to make the trip.
- kday, on 11/08/2007, -5/+3Hey Steve,
Maybe you should try moving out of your parents house so you are closer to campus.
Just a thought.- MonkeyFarts, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Maybe he's referring to returning home for a visit. You know, like what most college students do. Like what I'm going to be doing this Thanksgiving & Christmas. Seriously, do you honestly believe he commutes 6 hours per day just to take maybe 2-3 hours' worth of class? Come on man.
"Just a thought."- neiltc13, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2I commute two hours per day often for two hours of class. I drive a Smart Roadster which gets 50mpg and the Government (Yes, the GOVERNMENT) pays for my travel costs.
- MonkeyFarts, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Maybe he's referring to returning home for a visit. You know, like what most college students do. Like what I'm going to be doing this Thanksgiving & Christmas. Seriously, do you honestly believe he commutes 6 hours per day just to take maybe 2-3 hours' worth of class? Come on man.
- kday, on 11/08/2007, -5/+3Hey Steve,
- steveL88, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4It's been longer than that here in Indy I think. This makes my 3 hour drive from my college campus back to home cost roughly $30 each way ... it's sad that I can't go home when I want/need to just because I can't afford the gasoline to make the trip.
- mikehrp, on 11/10/2007, -0/+83It's been over $3.00 for about TWO YEARS in Southern California. Diesel is over $3.50
- hellathatguy, on 11/08/2007, -0/+63.30 in SF.... tell me the last time you saw it less?
- devo6273, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Damn... and I always thought SF was bad... it's 3.40 in Sunnyvale!
- soopafly, on 11/08/2007, -0/+13I would LOVE to pay $3.00 a gallon here in the Bay Area
- silverwolfe, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Yeah, it's been bouncing up and down around $3 here in WA too.
- VitaminM80, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2yeah in CT its been between 3.00 and 3.30 for probably a year.
- willynilly, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2Why is this ***** on the front page? It has been above $3 all over the place for a long, long time. It was up near $4 in L.A. last year, and Chicago is always getting ripped off too.
- AuroraProject, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1$3.46 here in Sacramento today.
- aduzik, on 11/09/2007, -0/+1Yes, but I'm guessing a "good" salary in San Francisco is a bit higher than $45,000. Here in Iowa, that's a pretty good salary. But gas is still $2.99 today. Do most things only cost 10% more in SF? If not, then you're actually paying less proportionately.
- hellathatguy, on 11/08/2007, -0/+63.30 in SF.... tell me the last time you saw it less?
- tucsonsun13, on 11/08/2007, -2/+29We have no energy policy whatsoever.
- otakushark, on 11/11/2007, -7/+32Sure we do. Bush's policy is, "Oil companies get rich, everyone else gets screwed."
- Elranzer, on 11/08/2007, -1/+3The point is that every November (during a presidential/midterm election year), the price of gas goes down, probably to get voters to stop being mad at republicans who let the oil companies do whatever they want. The republicans and oil companies both always claim that prices just naturally drop in November.
Well *this* November is not a major election year yet the gas prices didn't "naturally" go down. I thought the gas price drop wasn't related to politics...
- Elranzer, on 11/08/2007, -1/+3The point is that every November (during a presidential/midterm election year), the price of gas goes down, probably to get voters to stop being mad at republicans who let the oil companies do whatever they want. The republicans and oil companies both always claim that prices just naturally drop in November.
- sadler121, on 11/09/2007, -13/+12Thing is we have plenty of oil in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. The wacko environmentalists won't lets us go any where near it.
- thewaxgrid, on 11/08/2007, -4/+3Alright, there are plenty of "wacko" environmentalists, BUT is it really worth threatening one of America's most prosperous wildlife territories, especially when there are plenty options for alternative energy. It is more logical in my opinion to have a massive expansion in high speed rails across the states than see some greedy oil companies drilling for oil in Alaska.
- shauncorleone, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3You're exactly right. Plenty of other countries are drilling in places like the Gulf of Mexico, but our hands are tied for trying to capitalize on rich sources in our own country. In the meantime, everyone's crying out for alternative sources that for various reasons have not and will not ever replace our dependency on oil for MANY years to come. The same people who complain about rising gas prices are driving more now than when gas was below $2/gallon instead of carpooling and utilizing alternative modes of transportation. I'm certainly glad I walk and take public transit, saves me a ton of money.
- Amazetbm, on 11/08/2007, -2/+8Actually, we do. After Cheney worked with several Enron execs advise on the energy policy, he had it sealed for "national security reasons". I wasn't being sarcastic about him using Enron execs, either.
- Mardala, on 11/08/2007, -1/+8I wasn't aware of who was involved, but Cheney had a closed door energy meeting to decide the fate of this countries energy policy. It was never disclosed what was talked about. Thats our energy policy. Yep. Another reason we need to impeach this sob. I hope Cheney chokes on his 9% approval rating.
- tehxen3, on 11/09/2007, -7/+5Energy policy? What's that supposed to mean. If demokratik party would stop taxing oil products so much and stop blocking drilling in USA and elsewhere we would have cheap oil by now.
- tucsonsun13, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1I understand that our energy policy = black gold and more black gold.
- otakushark, on 11/11/2007, -7/+32Sure we do. Bush's policy is, "Oil companies get rich, everyone else gets screwed."
- chingy1788, on 11/11/2007, -4/+42Time for America to whip out their bikes
- spyd3rweb, on 11/11/2007, -4/+25Wow we could solve the pollution problems and obesity problems all in one step.
- kettlechips, on 11/11/2007, -4/+6and the debt problem, too!!
- Negyxo, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2all in one pedal?
- inspecality, on 11/11/2007, -2/+12haha yeah right. no cup holders.
- cbuddha42, on 11/09/2007, -2/+18Do you have even the faintest concept of how far apart things are in even many of the denser areas of the US? Suburbia is designed around cars. People can not simply "whip out their bikes" to do the 10+ miles to work or even the 1-2 miles to the grocery store because they then need to carry back a cart full of groceries.
- kettlechips, on 11/08/2007, -15/+8Hence why suburbia has to either densify or die. Quit making excuses for your laziness.
- MindTrigger, on 11/08/2007, -1/+11You win the "most moronic reply" of the day award. ***** "densify"? Really? If such a thing was possible, how long do you think it might take to "densify suburbia"? What an idiot.
- kettlechips, on 11/08/2007, -8/+2I've seen, with my own eyes, suburban homes being torn down for skyscrapers. If energy trends continue, such a future is inevitable.
- asdfuiop, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4kettlechips just feels entitled to talk because he .almost. passed his urban planning major at ITT tech
- MindTrigger, on 11/08/2007, -1/+11You win the "most moronic reply" of the day award. ***** "densify"? Really? If such a thing was possible, how long do you think it might take to "densify suburbia"? What an idiot.
- slashbot, on 11/08/2007, -2/+4Yes because we all just have the power to change the entire suburban model
- kettlechips, on 11/08/2007, -15/+8Hence why suburbia has to either densify or die. Quit making excuses for your laziness.
- N1tro, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Thank god we have lance armstrong
- Cowfrommars, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1Need bigger bikes.
- Marijuana, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3HA! hahahahahaahahaha
- asdfuiop, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2When I ride my bike around the (decidedly rural) town I live in, people holler and throw things at me, and no I am not obese, or wearing one of those ridiculous racing jerseys. Recently I took a trip to the wonderful province of British Columbia, where during my time there I saw probably 5x as many bikers despite the weather, and bike lanes all around!
God, America depresses me sometimes.- RonBurgundy76, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1America depresses me almost all the time.
- jjb123, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2That just doesn't work where I live, I live 10 miles from school, and we get really cold winters here.
- aduzik, on 11/09/2007, -0/+2Yep, totally reasonable when the average high is 3 degrees Fahrenheit and work is fifteen miles away.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/11/2007, -4/+25Wow we could solve the pollution problems and obesity problems all in one step.
- lettruthout, on 11/11/2007, -9/+20What do we have to whine about? In Germany and the Czech Republic I was paying the equivalent of more than $6 per gallon.
- roberto_deneero, on 11/09/2007, -2/+32Because our country is just a tad bit bigger and our public transportation is just a tad behind theirs. We don't have the option of taking the bus or rail anywhere without 17 changeovers and 2 nights sleeping on a bench.
- Amazetbm, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5I think most of Europe is paying around $6 - $7 a gallon for gas. That's one of the reasons that diesel cars sell so well over there, they have "hybrid-like" fuel economy and have been that way for a couple of decades now.
- CeeJayDK, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1It's more like $7 - $9 per us gallon for gas.
I drive a diesel because it's cheaper and diesel cars get much better mileage and they are easier to tune for more performance.
The car itself is more expensive though.
- CeeJayDK, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1It's more like $7 - $9 per us gallon for gas.
- HughMoore, on 11/08/2007, -5/+0Well, since Europeans and Brits don't drive very far to get where they are going, prices have to be high for Big Oil to make money. In the states, most everything is spread out so Big Oil makes money on volume. A tank of fuel in the UK probably lasts two to three weeks. In the states, a tank twice a week.
- luciferin, on 11/08/2007, -1/+5That's 650 to 800 miles you drive in a week. Where the hell are you? I do 40+ miles a day to work on only one tank a week. You may want to think about relocating at that point.
- CeeJayDK, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2I drive 60 miles each day (30 miles to work , 30 miles home) on 1 tank every 1½ weeks. I don't drive on the weekends.
I live in Denmark (Europe)
That said .. the reason why Americans have to refuel far more often is because of the poor gas mileage most American cars get.
Interestingly enough .. one of the major reasons why European cars get much better mileage is because fuel prices are so much higher in Europe.
Hopefully higher gas prices in America will also drive innovation in fuel economy in American cars like it has with European cars.
- CeeJayDK, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2I drive 60 miles each day (30 miles to work , 30 miles home) on 1 tank every 1½ weeks. I don't drive on the weekends.
- NeonElixir, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Who are you to say that Europeans don't drive very far to get to places? I'm sure some of them have long commutes the same as us.
- DinCahill, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2A tank lasting two or three weeks? What god-forsaken planet do you think Europe is on?
- k3ano, on 11/08/2007, -3/+1The reason it's expensive in the UK is taxes, not because "Brits don't drive very far to get where they are going".
- k3ano, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3The reason it's expensive in the UK is taxes, not because "Brits don't drive very far to get where they are going".
- luciferin, on 11/08/2007, -1/+5That's 650 to 800 miles you drive in a week. Where the hell are you? I do 40+ miles a day to work on only one tank a week. You may want to think about relocating at that point.
- viggooo, on 11/08/2007, -0/+6In Norway we pay a little above $8 per gallon. 70% of that is taxes to the government. I think it's a bit steep, but I don't complain.
- willynilly, on 11/09/2007, -4/+3Then you are spineless.
- k3ano, on 11/09/2007, -0/+5The taxes in Europe usually go to good use like improving infrastructure, health care and education instead of war.
- theblooms, on 11/12/2007, -3/+1"instead of war"
That's because, as much as you hate us, when the ***** hits the fan, you just get Americans to fight your wars FOR you.
- theblooms, on 11/12/2007, -3/+1"instead of war"
- h4ppydotcom, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3I don't complain, because I think it is incredibly sensibly to put a high tax on a scarce resource to (a) deter un-necessary usage and (b) earn usage based revenue for the government that I can choose to opt out of paying (by not using a car).
- k3ano, on 11/12/2007, -1/+1That's why we have an income tax ; )
- k3ano, on 11/09/2007, -0/+5The taxes in Europe usually go to good use like improving infrastructure, health care and education instead of war.
- willynilly, on 11/09/2007, -4/+3Then you are spineless.
- willynilly, on 11/08/2007, -3/+2This argument is such tired old *****. "Everyone else is getting ripped off even more."
THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM, and they should be TAKING IT UP WITH THEIR GOVERNMENTS.
So the implication is that we should wait around and see just how much other people will tolerate before complaining? Who, exactly, should we use as our bellwether?
"Well, the Finns finally complained today. That's our cue: LET'S RIOT!"- DinCahill, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2What can one man do to make his government cut taxes on petrol? If the UK had prices like the USA ($3 a gallon works out at 40p a litre and we pay £1 now) we'd be laughing.
- sriel, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2Here in the Netherlands it is $8,33 per gallon.
- creamy, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1Correction: about $10 per gallon :(
- creamy, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1Darn, my mistake. It seems you were right. Digg me down ;)
- h4ppydotcom, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Here in Turkmenistan it's $0.30 per gallon. All hail Turkmenbashi and his glorious successor Gurbanguly Berdimuhammedow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_usage_and_pr ...
And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saparmurat_Niyazov
- Shiftgood, on 11/10/2007, -2/+49welcome to california.
- KidKenosha, on 11/08/2007, -1/+6Welcome to the rest of the world, ten years ago and then some.
- murty, on 11/11/2007, -4/+13in Australia, we are paying roughly $5 a gallon (except Australia uses litre's and AUD dollars) and its expected to go up to roughly $7.50 a gallon by the end of the year...
(forgive me if my maths is wrong)- bobbles, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Your maths is fine, I paid $1.36 a litre to fill up my car the other day, which is about $5.15 a gallon in AUD
- murty, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3I pay around $1.40 here in SA
- KSpark, on 11/08/2007, -7/+8You are forgiven for the maths....the grammars, not so much. :)
- endlessoul, on 11/09/2007, -0/+9If you are implying that he spelled "maths" wrong, it's how they say it in the UK.
- KidKenosha, on 11/08/2007, -0/+6And, for that matter, the English-speaking world outside the US and Canada.
- DinCahill, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2"The grammars"?
- endlessoul, on 11/09/2007, -0/+9If you are implying that he spelled "maths" wrong, it's how they say it in the UK.
- chingy1788, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1yeah americans get everything cheaper, spoiled bastards
- bobbles, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Your maths is fine, I paid $1.36 a litre to fill up my car the other day, which is about $5.15 a gallon in AUD
- theexitwound, on 11/08/2007, -4/+13Four years ago,I bought a "cheap" Porsche 944 on eBay with intentions of restoration to replace my aging Volkswagen. When I say cheap, I mean the engine wasn't in it. I figured that I could buy the car cheap, fix it up myself, and save myself a ton of money and still look good afterwards. At the time, 92+ Octane (required by the engine) was $1.39/gallon. I never thought that four years later, gasoline would be costing me $3.39/gallon. I certainly am glad I only drive 2.9 miles to work. I turned down another job 15 miles away because I couldn't afford the commute.
- rkzda, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2I hear ya there, I wouldn't take the job if it cost me roughly 2400 more dollars per year for the commute. Unless of course my salary increase overcompensated by atleast 1500.
- bingobongony, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4Why woud anyone take a job for less than a $2500 pay increase anyway? Lose seniority for nothing.
- bingobongony, on 11/09/2007, -6/+5It is good that you don't live far from work. That is more money to pay for OTHER penis enlargement products, since the Porsche didn't work.
- svejoh, on 11/08/2007, -2/+82.9 miles to work and you _have_ to drive?
- KidKenosha, on 11/11/2007, -2/+6Buy a bike, you lazy *****.
- SirDiggalot, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2Boohoo, you have a Porsche and can't afford to drive it. Cry me a river.
- snea, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2A 944 isn't exactly the awesome bad-ass expensive sports car you are probably thinking of.
- theexitwound, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1I knew the word Porsche would set off alarms. The car gets between 18-25mpg depending on city or highway driving. (It's only got 4 cylinders, do your research.) I live in Pennsylvania, which means half the year, yes, I *have* to drive. The other half, which is ending now, I did bike to work when I could.
I was just expressing my concern between buying a used car (which got typical gas mileage) in 2002, and what I'm paying now for it.- SirDiggalot, on 11/09/2007, -0/+1Yah, well when you say "and still look good afterwards," you make it obvious that your image (i.e., having a Porsche) is all you care about.
- theexitwound, on 11/09/2007, -0/+1Nah. It just beats the rusted ol' Volkswagen that I'd been driving for 12 years. And I KNEW it would be a project when I bought it, which is one of the reasons I bought it. It was extremely cheap and I jumped on the deal. In the end, yes, it looks fantastic. A side effect not planned for was $3.39/gal premium gasoline.
- SirDiggalot, on 11/09/2007, -0/+1Yah, well when you say "and still look good afterwards," you make it obvious that your image (i.e., having a Porsche) is all you care about.
- rkzda, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2I hear ya there, I wouldn't take the job if it cost me roughly 2400 more dollars per year for the commute. Unless of course my salary increase overcompensated by atleast 1500.
- umbepo, on 11/08/2007, -9/+4ha ha! in mexico, its stuck at 2.80 or so..
why are prices high? there are 800,000,000 running cars in the world. every year, another 50,000,000 are made. SUPPLY AND DEMAND.- Amazetbm, on 11/08/2007, -0/+7Yeah, but it was recently reported on CNBC that the supply is actually up and the demand has gone down. Something is going on in the commodities market that doesn't add up.
- InfiniteNothing, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1per liter?
- pcore, on 11/08/2007, -1/+23"Get used to it. The days of cheap energy are over."
I LOLed. Yeah I can't even remember the last time gallons went for bellow $3. (I'm from So Cal btw.)- KSUdesigner, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2You must not be very old. I'm only 27 and I can remember when it was below $1 per gallon.
- delgotit99, on 11/11/2007, -5/+4Let's keep complaining and maybe it will or down.
- Sagags, on 11/09/2007, -2/+14This hurts me so much, I really don't want to sell my first car (a 1967 Mustang with a 5.8L V8), but I cant afford to go on with the poor mileage.
- thewaxgrid, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1Retrofit it with a hybrid engine... I kid, I kid...... or not.
- Lewie, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Shouldn't you be storing that car anyway? Take it out a few times a year and call it good.
- uncommonwords, on 11/08/2007, -5/+3Hey I'm from So Cal, and I was pumping at 2.55 a few months ago. Who knew July would have the cheapest gas. Inland Empire btw. That probably has alot to do with the price.
- eclipxe, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2What makes you think the IE has it any better? It's $3.59 for premium out here in Temecula...
- Flashtone, on 11/08/2007, -15/+5time to switch back to leaded gas.
- Dumbledorito, on 11/08/2007, -0/+9I don't think "WTF" is appropriate enough for that comment. It's almost as if he suggested taking up smoking as a response to smog.
- desistere, on 11/11/2007, -4/+11Instead of whining, when gas went to $3, I bought a more fuel efficient car. Now I get 30 mpg and it costs about $27 to fill my tank with gas at $3/gallon. It worked for me, it might just work for you. =)
- Todesengelvr6, on 11/08/2007, -1/+9I'll still bitch and moan, and I ride a crotch rocket that gets 45mpg with the ability to go 160mph. It only cost me $12 to fill up at $3.10 a gallon. It worked for me, its probably not going to work for you.
- MonkeyFarts, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2Wait, what? $12/tank at $3.10/gal? You have a >4 gallon tank? What are you driving, some kind of moped on steroids?
- Berrex, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4Motorcycle, nub. lulz
- myotive, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Yeah, that won't work for me as we have notorious winters where I'm at.
I can see myself going 160mph in the negative degree weather, with sleet and ice, and thinking to myself "Well, at least I'm not paying 20 bucks every time I fill up."
- MonkeyFarts, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2Wait, what? $12/tank at $3.10/gal? You have a >4 gallon tank? What are you driving, some kind of moped on steroids?
- roberto_deneero, on 11/08/2007, -5/+2Die hippie scum!
- natenovs, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4i dont believe you. how big is your tank? mine is absolutely tiny and its still over 35$ to fill up.
- HughMoore, on 11/08/2007, -2/+4Your car has a NINE gallon fuel tank? Interesting. And I bet the car is low-power, cramped and ugly.
- dyreschlock, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4so you have a 9 gallon tank?
- MindTrigger, on 11/08/2007, -3/+6People like this guy think everyone in the country can neatly fit their lives into a sub-compact econo-turd. As if everyone has the convenience of choosing their car based only on MPG.
- Nesh, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2No *****. I'm 6'5" tall. I'd have to tear out the front seat and sit in the back like Hightower from Police Academy.
- duzytata, on 11/08/2007, -0/+6Not everyone can afford a more fuel efficient car just like that.
- ReduX33, on 11/08/2007, -2/+1I did the same thing. I got a 96 Honda Civic 4 door and I get about 30MPG and the most I've ever paid was 29 to fill it from empty with an 11 gallon tank, and i get a good 220+ miles out of it. It's a great car, too.
- colonelxc, on 11/08/2007, -0/+6Let's play math. 220 miles.... 11 gallons... Why, that's 20MPG!
- Kakes, on 11/08/2007, -0/+0There is an amazing difference in perception in the US from that in Europe. In Europe, with prices exceeding $9 a gallon and heading for $10 a 30mpg car is not exceptional (we've never had low cost petrol).
A 2 litre BMW diesel can achieve just under 60 mpg on a motorway/highway run (at 56mph) and still attain a top speed of over 140 mph with a 0-60 time of 8s. OK, they are expensive to buy but if petrol prices keep increasing the justification for buying an efficient diesel will make sense even in the US (if you can get diesel at the pumps).
- Todesengelvr6, on 11/08/2007, -1/+9I'll still bitch and moan, and I ride a crotch rocket that gets 45mpg with the ability to go 160mph. It only cost me $12 to fill up at $3.10 a gallon. It worked for me, its probably not going to work for you.
- cactus476, on 11/08/2007, -1/+9I feel like I'm wasting the money I paid for insurance, when I don't drive...
- dontencourageme, on 11/11/2007, -1/+13what was that thing Mr. Garrison invented? yah, I think it's time for whip those babies out.
- jnrosemas, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Either way you're going to take it in the ass ;-)
- acceleriter, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Still better than the airlines :).
- jnrosemas, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Either way you're going to take it in the ass ;-)
- jarvelated, on 11/09/2007, -0/+12Way to go new jersey, cheapest gas and we don't even have to pump it ourselves.
- 4UIDigg, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2except every 3 miles on the fwy you gotta stop & pay toll
- asdfuiop, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3"New Jersey is New York's Mexico."
- NeonElixir, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2It is pretty nice, but I think I can live without all those refineries in my backyard.
- stephbangm, on 11/09/2007, -1/+14This is inconceivable beyond belief! Artificial scarcity is what's making things worse!
- MindTrigger, on 11/08/2007, -0/+6works for the diamond industry....
- KidKenosha, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2Are you familiar with the concept of a nonrenewable, scarce resource?
- RegalGSX, on 11/08/2007, -5/+3I think the girl in the yellow wants to talk to me.
- KaptainKandy, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4Times like these make me wish I didn't live in Jersey and my Impreza didn't need super. No mo' $ fo' me. = (
- kday, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4It's times like these you learn to live again.
- MonkeyFarts, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2It's times like these you give and give again.
- Berrex, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3it's times like these you learn to love again.
- MonkeyFarts, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2It's times like these you give and give again.
- dime, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Uh, why? I live in Jersey and we have some of the lowest gas prices nationwide.
All those refineries stinking up the Turnpike ARE good for something, you know.
- kday, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4It's times like these you learn to live again.
- jmpeagle, on 11/11/2007, -5/+7$3 is cheap, most people probbly won't change driving habits until around $5-$6 per gallon. For me personally, I would have to see $10 per gallon before I would change my driving habits but then again I only drive about 100 miles per week in a 30 mpg car.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/11/2007, -1/+3High gas prices aren't gonna stop me from burning any rubber.
- 4UIDigg, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3commuting to work is a habit that's hard to break
- Zarchon, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2$3.oo is not cheap. AND considering we don;t subsidize medical ir any other social program with our gas it is outragous.
- luftrofl, on 11/11/2007, -4/+36Suck it up, fellow Americans. Here in California, it's been over $3.20 for YEARS.
If you think THAT's expensive, go travel a bit and see just how expensive gas is.
Ever wonder why Japanese and European cars tend to get better fuel economy than American cars? It's because they're paying a ***** more than we do for gas and it's the only kind of car that'll sell.
Wake up, people. Open your eyes and don't be douchebags.- shodanx, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2that's cheap
up here, I just tanked at 1.128 per liter for the cheap stuff
that's 4,26$ per gallon and that's in CAD, in USD that's 4,60$ !!!!
so cry me a river with 3$ a gallon
also I drive 180 km per day (over 500$ a month in gas) - HughMoore, on 11/08/2007, -6/+1See reply to "lettruthout." Open YOUR eyes and don't be west coast nut.
- DigitAl56K, on 11/11/2007, -1/+6It's not "the only kind of car that will sell". It's just that in Europe we aren't under the impression that we need the equivalent of an armored tank to drop the kids off safely at school, or a truck for the commute back and forth to work, or an SUV for getting around town. Smaller cars can still be spacious and comfortable, plus light and zippy and economic.
Quite honestly, I was shocked the first time I came to the US. I don't see what's so different about the kind of things people in the US do with their cars than the people in Europe do with theirs that requires them to be 50% larger.- jpop, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2What, you didn't notice all the fatties when you came here?
- orbit1979, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1But I'm an American! Therefore I'm ENTITLED to cheap gas to fill my suburban monster truck to get the attention I deserve, compensate for my low self-esteem and flaunt my credit wealth!!
- shodanx, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2that's cheap
- st3vo, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4I don't know where you are from, but here in Southern California, it's been above 3 dollars a gallon for a long time.
- swgc5, on 11/11/2007, -5/+5wind, solar, geothermal, and to a lesser degree hyrdo power, ftw
- jmpeagle, on 11/11/2007, -2/+8I was unaware there were geothermal and wind powered cars? Do wind powered cars have sails or something?
- kday, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1actually you use a kite. Google or Youtube "kite buggy". Not really a car, but kinda like a car.
- jmpeagle, on 11/11/2007, -2/+8I was unaware there were geothermal and wind powered cars? Do wind powered cars have sails or something?
- Amazetbm, on 11/08/2007, -1/+3My car runs on premium so I've been hovering around and above $3.00 any way...***** it. I started taking mass transit to work four days a week...six months ago.
- everfalling, on 11/11/2007, -3/+9IIRC, Europe is paying around 5-6 dollars a gallon. suck it up or buy a more fuel efficient car. maybe not a prius, but dump the SUV.
- kettlechips, on 11/11/2007, -1/+37Wait, it's only $3 in American dollars. That's nothing!
- slashbot, on 11/11/2007, -6/+3$3 is still pretty cheap.....
Get a fuel efficient car, (doesn't even have to be hybrid), live somewhat close to work, and you're set...- AxeSwinger, on 11/11/2007, -1/+6Unless you have to live 45 miles away to be able to afford a house.
- mos6507, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1Then rent. There isn't a law that says you need to buy a house. Given the housing market, you would have been better to sit it out rather than face a foreclosure on an ARM.
- mos6507, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1Then rent. There isn't a law that says you need to buy a house. Given the housing market, you would have been better to sit it out rather than face a foreclosure on an ARM.
- slashbot, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2Yeah this is why I live in Texas.
Cost of living = awesome. No state income tax either. California's income tax almost cost me the same as federal. Housing prices were outrageous for old crap too.
Two reasons why I will avoid the coasts if at all possible. - linzichan, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Ah, you live in Texas. That explains a lot.
- tehnico, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1OMFG I can't believe I agreed with slashbot on his original comment. People should be living more responsibly in general. Maybe some things aren't always an option, but theres always a way to be smarter with your money. And yes $3 gas is not so expensive. It's a psychological milestone, but it really any different than $2.80?
(here's where me and slashbot part company)
In canada it's about 4 dollars a gallon, but we aren't subsidizing the oil industry with the lives of soldiers. We should start offering Canadian Dollars for payment of oil. That would be an interesting twist.
- AxeSwinger, on 11/11/2007, -1/+6Unless you have to live 45 miles away to be able to afford a house.
- greensky, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4I wouldn't worry too much about price. It's going to get bad if there are shortages or gas lines. That's where the real trouble will start.
- DjArcadian, on 11/11/2007, -0/+6Get a motorcycle. I pay about $5 a week in gas.
- zekt, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1$5 a week? You're not riding enough!
- MindTrigger, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4Yeah, because motorcycles are so practical for most people these days.....
- fani, on 11/11/2007, -0/+2Ever ride a motorcycle in 30 degrees Fahrenheit weather ?
- SNIa, on 11/08/2007, -10/+3OH BOOOO HOOOO
I have been paying 1.09 a litter, and for those of you who don't know metric, that's nearly 3.78 Litres to a Gallon.
I WOULD LOVE TO PAY $3 A GALLON.
And the funny thing is, we, Canada are you're #1 Exporter....
BOOOOO HOOOOOOO- xlar54, on 11/08/2007, -2/+6Let me help.
US - 300 million people, 151 million labor force, unemployment rate 4.8%, 20 million bbl per day oil consumption
Canada - 33 million people, 17 million labor force, unemployment rate 6.4%, 2.3 million bbl per day oil consumption
So in short... you dont need as much oil as we do. Have a better understanding of what you're talking about before engaging in US domestic issues. And BTW, we, the United States, are you're #1 Exporter too. - Alex64, on 11/08/2007, -6/+2LOL, pwnd. ***** Canadian communists.
- xlar54, on 11/08/2007, -2/+6Let me help.
- sb76117, on 11/11/2007, -3/+6lol is it the price of oil that is rising or the value of the US dollar that is dropping... either way we are getting *****... probably from both ends
- ubergeek330, on 11/08/2007, -2/+7$3 is pretty cheap here in beautiful California
- xlar54, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Last I heard, California was part of the United States. Do ya think that somehow you're immune to prices going up too?
- jkizzle, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4woohoo bikes RAWK
seriously though, learn to commute on a bike. fuel is free and clean, you dont get fat, and you get ripped legs.- smergs, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Except for when your commute to work is a 30 minute drive on the interstate without having a good bike route. I'd ride a bike to work if I lived closer though :(
- gunmetal, on 11/08/2007, -8/+6Ride a bike you lazy fat suburbanites. I hope the gas goes over $8, see you on the road (as i pass you on my bike)....
- slashbot, on 11/08/2007, -2/+6I don't know where you live, but I am never stuck in traffic.
I will be the person laughing at you on a rainy day as I pass you so fast you get soaked by the wave of water.- gunmetal, on 11/08/2007, -7/+1that wave just cost you $12.65 in gas, have fun getting poor and ugly, while I become rich and better looking.
- slashbot, on 11/08/2007, -2/+5Poor? lol please. I pay $25 every two weeks, while making plenty to live quite comfortably.
And as far as exercise, I can do that on my own time, when it is most convenient, and indoors. Nice try painting your riding as something to be desired.- munkyxtc, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Gas is $3.05 here [PA] and I spend about $40 to fill up the tank. That should last me about 2 weeks. Now granted I don't do much excessive driving...it's to work and home, store every other week.
- Rickler, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2The few times it does happen to rain in socal; rain never bothers me. See, modern day sport bikes are designed to direct air away from the rider. This in effect keeps the rider quite dry. Also... Insurance: $112/year Gas: around $200/year. Yeah. :)
- asdfuiop, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2$112/year for insurance? You must be a teetotaler ex-NASCAR driver with a perfect record to have rates like that.
- Rickler, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Naw just an motorcycle commuter with a class CM1 license. I get my insurance from Progressive, it was originally $254 for my first year. I even got a speeding ticket for going 55mph in a 35 (meanwhile everyone else was going 50mph).
- asdfuiop, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2$112/year for insurance? You must be a teetotaler ex-NASCAR driver with a perfect record to have rates like that.
- soupdawg30, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3I would love to ride a bike to work but here in Southeast Texas we have 100% humidity all the time. My bike ride would have me drenched in sweat. No one wants to sit next to the sweaty guy.
- slashbot, on 11/08/2007, -2/+6I don't know where you live, but I am never stuck in traffic.
- DavidGX, on 11/08/2007, -5/+4Peak Oil mother *****, do you know about it?
- jnrosemas, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2I don't think we're peaking just yet.
- amyfamb7, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1$3.08 in KY for the last 3 weeks. How do people on minimum wage live?
- kettlechips, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1They walk.
- Toshibi, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2They get their parents to take them to work. 50%+ of minimum wage earners are teenagers.
- amyfamb7, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Not in KY
- Toshibi, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2They get their parents to take them to work. 50%+ of minimum wage earners are teenagers.
- ohcyrus, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1With their parents.
- kettlechips, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1They walk.
- triclipse, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2A lot of it has to do with the fact that oil is much more expensive in DOLLARS (Federal Reserve Notes) because the dollar is weakening so quickly. The price has risen in Euros, but not nearly as much. Get our military out of the Middle East and oil will drop $20/barrel (risk premium).
- Zarchon, on 11/08/2007, -0/+0Wait, weren't you the guy saying that we went into the miiddle east for cheap gas? No? My mistake, you sound just like him.
- ifm1989, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2$3 per gallon is news?
/sigh.... - DrAtheist, on 11/11/2007, -1/+11FYI the UK pays about £0.94 per litre, which is about £3.41 per US gallon, which is $7.11 US per US gallon. You lot don't know how good you've got it.
Now, pleases, do the world a favour and ditch the SUV (yes the UK is guilty of it too, but we do tend to copy the US for some reason)- SeekerDarksteel, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4US gas would be $7.11 too if our government levied massive taxes on it too.
- synthesis811, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Not sure why you got dugg down, but you are perfectly right, the only reason why prices are so much more expensive in UK and Europe is because 2/3 of it are taxes, the only advantage of course is that when prices change massively like they have recently the difference at the pump price over here is much much smaller because its been absorbed by the excessive taxes.
- maccagrabme, on 11/08/2007, -0/+0It's now over £1 a litre. Tax now accounts for 65p per litre of fuel bought.
- Space_Balls, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2 In Germany we are at pretty much exactly 8USD / US Gallon!
- SeekerDarksteel, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4US gas would be $7.11 too if our government levied massive taxes on it too.
- Brian48216, on 11/11/2007, -1/+8We've brought this upon ourselves, with so many people mocking "4 bangers", and buying big assed SUVs that few people need but will delude themselves into buying.
- orbit1979, on 11/08/2007, -1/+1That reminds me a few weeks ago at the pump, there were two SUV's (suburban monster trucks) that were filling up side by side. I got a chuckle when both owners were bitching to each other about how expensive it was to fill their glorified monster trucks. These days compensating for low self-esteem, the need to feel dominant, and flaunt credit wealth comes at a premium (as it should)
- davmattucci, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Whoa, whoa, whoa! Are you trying to imply that Americans generally drive over-sized unnecessary vehicles for the sake of status, and "safety"? Next you're going to tell me Dick Cheney's Energy Task Force isn't helping matters either!
- mr5150, on 11/08/2007, -3/+3Wars have always made things more expensive, the purpose of the Iraq war was to raise the price of fuel, period. Anyone who believes otherwise is deluding themselves.
This can squarely be put on the head of Bush Administration looking out for the interests of big oil. Excuses of hurricanes, bad weather, global warming ect are just *****. It has everything to do with War and using it to justify higher prices...guess what the ***** have won and duped us all into lining their pockets with our money.- Zarchon, on 11/08/2007, -2/+0Really? And yet the left was yelling that we were going to war for cheap oil. Which is it? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter what the real reason is, we have a bunch of lefties who happen to be in the loop on all the real reasons for what Republicans do.
- crazywarthog, on 11/08/2007, -3/+1The schmucks on the left don't use logic or facts. It just how they feel that comes out of their feminine mouths. Very sad indeed !
- apeweek, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1And what logic or facts have you communicated with terms like 'schmucks' and 'feminine mouths'?
- crazywarthog, on 11/08/2007, -3/+1The schmucks on the left don't use logic or facts. It just how they feel that comes out of their feminine mouths. Very sad indeed !
- milohoss, on 11/08/2007, -0/+0"the purpose of the Iraq war was to raise the price of fuel" . Dude, what are you talking about? The purpose of the war was to keep oil cheap, which as far as the pump price is concerned, it still is.
- Zarchon, on 11/08/2007, -2/+0Really? And yet the left was yelling that we were going to war for cheap oil. Which is it? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter what the real reason is, we have a bunch of lefties who happen to be in the loop on all the real reasons for what Republicans do.
- razrielle, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5And they said driving the Geo would be a bad idea, whos the one laughing now? please dont laugh at me for driving a geo, its only because of the gas mileage
- dagamer34, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Considering the value of the dollar has dropped since Bush has been in office it's not like people everywhere else are paying THAT much more compared to 6-7 years ago. We had cheaper oil because our currency is stronger. OPEC is finally reacting to the fact that the dollar is worth ***** now.
Besides, we don't truly get ***** until oil is traded in euros. With a depreciating dollar, we will DEFINITELY be paying more for oil as time passes then. - ch28kid, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2LOL its still very cheap compare to Canada
You should be happen its 3 especially in times like these.- sgoogle, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Cheap compare to the UK as well.
Here, its £1 per litre (~$2), and there are 3.8litres in a US gallon.
We are paying ~$7.6, and you are complaining about $3
- sgoogle, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1Cheap compare to the UK as well.
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