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- Equinox1, on 08/15/2008, -7/+50Who needs cable anymore? TV completely sucks these days. I just download whatever is worth watching.
- kingmanic, on 08/15/2008, -2/+28The patheticness of duplication on Digg reaches an alltime high today..
- travis6690, on 08/15/2008, -8/+32The patheticness of duplication on Digg reaches an alltime high today..
- kolyana, on 08/15/2008, -2/+23Yes, yes it was ... it's so fresh it's silly. It seems that certain people on Digg remain blissfully unaware of what anyone else is doing (and they do not care), and they are willing to re-post items within hours of it already being done.
Unlike the others, I'm going to DIGG your comment and bury anything in support of this post, because - frankly - anyone who buries the valid fact that this has already been done is in support of duplicates within just hrs of each other, and are probably fanboys of the original poster. - inactive, on 08/15/2008, -3/+23Buried for duplicate story.
Already been submitted yesterday. - inactive, on 08/15/2008, -15/+33wasn't this dugg earlier today?
- swordphish, on 08/15/2008, -2/+20Yep. The only channels worth watching on cable are Discovery, History, National Geographic, Science Channel, and Military Channel.
- davidrools, on 08/15/2008, -0/+16and comedy central...for news.
- Seanathan, on 08/15/2008, -0/+14Just because he can afford it doesn't mean that the charge is merited.
- drex8, on 08/15/2008, -1/+11I don't get this. The same story is already out there: http://digg.com/tech_news/Angry_customer_sues_Time ... with 1082 diggs. And in the comments, an user named *gamebittk* claims that he or she submitted the story 48 hours earlier http://digg.com/tech_news/Man_Files_Antitrust_Suit ... and it languished with only 19 diggs, until MakiMaki submitted the same story the 2nd time, and it hit the front page.
Now there's another submittal of the same story from the same site, and it hits the front page again. You know, I digg and like arstechnica articles just any other technology news loving diggers out there, but some sites have an undue advantage on Digg. Each and every article on Arstechnica's site gets dugg. While there are thousands of other newsworthy and really good articles from other sites, which never get to see the front page. And one story or article from a site known to diggers well, hits the front page twice or sometimes thrice. - howdareyou, on 08/15/2008, -0/+9When your ISP is also your Cable provider it's never a good situation. Rogers recently started to throttle bandwidth and cap their customers to 60GB (up/down combined) per month. I've gone way over that every month as I do what you suggest and just torrent anything worth watching. Rogers charges you $2 for every GB over your 60 GB allotment, luckily they will only charge up to an additional $25. So I just said ***** it, and pay the extra $25 a month for unlimited up and down. It's a hell of a lot better than paying upwards of $100 for their HD service, not to mention the price to rent the box.
- monroe1200, on 08/15/2008, -1/+10The patheticness of duplication on Digg reaches an alltime high today..
- Patori, on 08/15/2008, -0/+9/facepalm
- Spire3660, on 08/15/2008, -3/+11Shhh the adults are talking.....
- Farik, on 08/15/2008, -2/+9and PBS.
- swordphish, on 08/15/2008, -0/+6Ooh, forgot that one. PBS really made a comeback in the last few years.
- inactive, on 08/15/2008, -0/+6In Canada you can purchase a cable box, and even get a discount on your monthly payment for it if you do... WTF is up with the USA?
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/15/2008, -1/+7I'm seeing the major posters doing it regularly, TABLOID tards like makimaki and mrbabyman....sigh.
- damonic, on 08/15/2008, -2/+8Amen.
- thegrantman, on 08/15/2008, -2/+7They nickel and dime you to death because they're allowed to.
- orangefly, on 08/15/2008, -0/+5you forgot fox news....*ducks*
- datacowboy, on 08/15/2008, -4/+9The guy probably just wanted to use his TiVo with cablecards. Cable just can't stand people using a TiVo instead of their own rental box. Or, at least they make it as difficult as possible. I have Comcast and I use TiVo (cablecard) DVRs. I wanted to upgrade my digital package recently and add some premium channels. The rep said she could not do it without me also getting one of their rental boxes. She said their 'system' would not allow me to just have the channels. I said fine, send it to me, I'll use it as a doorstop, but I'm not paying a rental fee for something I will not be using. 30 minutes later, a supervisor 'figured' out how to add the channels without having to add the rental box.
- kolyana, on 08/15/2008, -0/+5Apparently your hawk-eyes are failing you; it was clearly posted with a very similar title only hours ago.
- rowjimmy, on 08/15/2008, -0/+5you can usually tell by the little _N at the end of the url
- mal1964, on 08/15/2008, -0/+5Sounds like the cable companies have very good Lobbyist on the payroll.
- inactive, on 08/15/2008, -2/+6There are a lot of awesome options online now with things like Hulu or the less official ones like Surfthechannel, which has every show you could want, and you can watch when YOU feel like it, regular TV can eat it.
- TheZorch, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4This guy is right, it is illegal. He's going to win this one.
- inactive, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4Welcome to the near monopoly that is cable TV. Where have you been all these years.
- timla, on 08/16/2008, -0/+3I read the article I do not think he is arguing that the cable company cannot rent out equipment, he just does not want to be forced into accepting the rental in order to get the service.
- Sh0ck4, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4Seriously. WTF? this was dugg 8 hours ago, basically same website and even almost with the same description. Bury please
- Create, on 08/16/2008, -0/+3you are misinformed... all tvs connected to cable are FINE
- inactive, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4What's a comment like this without a link to the original so we can digg that one and bury this one?
- KMartSheriff, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4/facepalm
- swordphish, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3Yea, that is just stupid. Why am I paying a monthly fee for the remote? I only use about 6 buttons on it. The remote should be comped for all the days I go without OnDemand service and channel listing service.
- KMartSheriff, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Hulu is actually awesome.
- Y0tsuya, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3What grinds my gears is comcast in my area scrambles every damned digital channel (even the non-HD non-premium ones) except for PBS which they're required by law to keep clear. That is the reason I canceled my cable after 8 years as analog customer. There's a perfectly fine digital tuner in my TV (and on my PC) but they won't let me use it. So bye bye.
- DarkCanuck12, on 08/15/2008, -4/+6First time I saw it. Unlike a vast majority of the Digg'ers, I work all day, and didn't see the original post. Thanks for posting this, and fark you Time Warner.
- swordphish, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Hah! It's the principle of the matter. TWC currently has a marketing campaign against Verizon claiming "no nickles and dimes" - my ass.
On top of that they'll probably end up charging me some ridiculous fee when I cancel my service and don't return the remote. - Andronicus, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2I had no idea we even had a modicum of choice in this regard. I presumed that we had to take what our cable companies were offering, if we wanted their service.
It does make sense, however. DOCSIS is a standard, and any cable modem which is DOCSIS compliant can be used for your data service, once you have registered its MAC information with your provider.
I'm a noob on this part: If the digital TV signals are also under a similar standard, we ought to be able to acquire our own boxes and similarly reject the cable companies' offering.
Perhaps this suit will yield more transparency. - PhilLesh69, on 08/16/2008, -0/+2WTF is up with the USA? Corporatism. Corporate control of the government.
- BRODEL, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Verizon Fios does this too. I kept asking how much it was to buy and the guy on the other end kept saying I can buy it for $10 a month. I said for how long and he said for the length of time I have service. I guess they're supposed to pretend to be stupid in these situations, but it sucks that I am forced to rent a damn box on top of the service itself.
- Andronicus, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Could this be a function of the popularity of the reporting websites among the Digg audience? I conjecture that Ars is more popular than consumerist among Digg'ers. If the Diggs are coming from links at the source website, it follows that the more popular websites will bubble up more stores to the front page, by virtue of the diggs obtained at the site, rather than from within Digg itself.
- tito13kfm, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Time Warner recently removed TBS, STO (sports time ohio), Discovery Channel, and a couple of other Clear QAM channels from their lineup and added them to the part you can only watch with a cable box.
Right now I get ABC, NBC, Fox, PBS, and a couple other crap stations that are decodable by my TV. If I want to get the stations that were already included in my analog cable package in HD I will have to pay additional money. This was an unannounced and ***** move to try to siphon more money from the consumer.. I'm pissed. - Snokage, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2i hope this gets applied to every cable company who will not allow customers the ablity to use their own cable boxes....*cough*comcast*cough*.....it would be nice to not have to pay an extra 15.00 a month...
- kd1s, on 08/16/2008, -0/+2Here's what I don't get. Phones have been rental free for how many decades now, yet it's ok for cable companies to rape you with rental?
And not for anything, the CableCard ***** is ridiculous. Explain to me how a SIM in a cell phone can be relatively secure and employ ciphers not easily broken. Why the hell didn't the cable industry just use that? - gilgamesh23, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2I had the exact same problem with Time Warner and my cable modem. I had one and the tried to charge me for installation and leasing the unit. Once a month I would call them and make a simple three word argument... "But it's mine!"
- Jpardue, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2This should have been done back in the 80's
- eryximachus, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1Consumerist is an awful website. I digg down every single story that is from that site.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1My 47" LCD has a slot for a cable card. And my provider does offer them.
The problem is, you do not get the interactive channel guide and I'm not 100% sure but I think OnDemand is not available either.
I think the only selling point of a cable card instead of a cable box is that you don't have another box in your entertainment system, for those that want to have as little clutter and wiring. - PhilLesh69, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1stagmire, either you are lazy or complacent. And this is what many companies are counting on most people being. If enough lazy or complacent people keep paying unnecessary fees, it adds up really fast.
If there are a million subscribers in that area each paying $6 a year for no reason, and nobody questions it or protests it, then that company makes an extra $6 million a year on top of all the other profit they make. -
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