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- MatzahMan, on 11/06/2009, -3/+42Each team voted against a spending cap so they all dug their own ditch here.
- deaftly, on 11/06/2009, -13/+46Why try when you can just buy the World Series?
- jellylube13, on 11/06/2009, -21/+52***** the Yankees!
- castingshade, on 11/06/2009, -6/+34Who needs to grow talent when you can just buy it?
- mkriss5681, on 11/06/2009, -10/+35WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP FOR SALE!
Brand New. Some steroid tarnish.
Only $250 Million!
Contact Bud Selig
* Location: New York, NY
* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests - Braxo, on 11/06/2009, -5/+26They did seem happy yesterday after their win.
I guess money CAN buy happiness! - wannaBdug, on 11/05/2009, -4/+22Give me just .1% of that please.
- taayb, on 11/06/2009, -3/+14So the Yankees spent $1.9 billion from 2001 to 2009. What did they accomplish with that $1.9 billion??
1. Exactly ONE World Series Championship... and they won that Championship yesterday.
Why do so many people get up in arms about this? If you are a Yankees hater you should be HAPPY that they wasted $1.9 billion and only got one world series, not angry about it. Look at the other teams that beat the Yankees and won the world series! They spent more money than any team in baseball and it DIDN'T MATTER.
I would think all of you Yankee haters would be happy about 1 World Series ring per decade but I guess not. Would you rather them win four out of five with "home grown talent" like that did in the 90s??? - Ajajadude, on 11/06/2009, -0/+11Sorry, pal, but as a Red Sox fan, seeing the same teams spend ridiculous amounts of money and then seeing those same teams get into the playoffs year after year makes things boring.
When you have few certain teams with the capital to spend almost limitless amounts of money to sign a player, it creates an uncompetitive imbalance. I want to see teams like the Rays, Pirates, Orioles, etc. be able to give any other a team a run for their money. I think a salary cap would be great. Look at how football is: from year to year, almost every team is competitive (except teams like the Raiders where ownership/management seems more interested in running their organization into the ground). - cockmaster, on 11/06/2009, -1/+10http://digg.com/baseball/Yankees_Win_27th_World_Se ...
awesome plagiarizing dude! - fbplyrdan, on 11/06/2009, -4/+11I'm pretty sure the Yankees have one of the best farm teams in baseball. And lets see, who on the current team was brought up from the farm team? Jeter, Rivera, Gardner, Pettite, Cano, Robertson, Coke, Chamberlin, Hughes, Cabrera, Pena...I can go on
- Buddhist, on 11/06/2009, -1/+8It's all good that the Yankees make a lot and reinvest a lot into their brand...however, it also comes at the expense of taxpayers, fans, and children.
They didn't need a new Yankee Stadium, it was built to generate more revenue so they could jack the prices up even higher for everything within the stadium, add luxury boxes to garner more $$$, and prep for spending another several hundred million in bloated offseason contracts.
They initially stated that the Stadium would be $800-900 million, and it ended up being $1.2 billion. If this was privately-funded, it'd be fine, but it's not like the old stadium was in shambles; the money given to the Yankees organization to build this new, uglier, much-less-enjoyable stadium that they plaster in advertisements for even more revenue came from taxpayer money. Money better spent on the large chunk of NYC public schools that are outdated, falling apart and just plain *****. The $400 million that the public invested is the equivalent of 8,000 teachers or cops or firemen at $50,000 per year.
They built the stadium on parkland, said they would put in new parks for the kids in the Bronx that have nowhere to play...they didn't do that. They put a soccer field on top of one of the old parking garages, and that's it. It's actually going to cost $80 million more to demolish the old stadium and build parkland on that instead of just fixing up the original park.
They've been screwing over the people of the South Bronx for decades, and ever since the renovations of the old stadium in the 70s it's just gotten progressively worse, and this is my main issue. A baseball team, whether it's there to be ran as a business or not (for the record, they're all ran as businesses), is meant to be entertainment, something that you can take family and friends to and have a good time at an acceptable price. The vast majority of those living right around the Stadium can't even afford a single ticket to get in, let alone multiple ones or any concessions that normally go with going to a game. That's akin to working in a hotel you can't afford to stay in, cleaning a house you could never afford to live in, or cooking in a restaurant you could never afford to eat in. No matter how you slice it, it's messed up.
*****, even the stadium is built as a hierarchy. They have security guards blocking off the inner rows of the stadium towards the field because of the price discrepancy, and there's a giant concrete/plexiglass moat separating those that pay $50-200 per seat (aka anything from the bleachers to 20 rows behind the field) and those that pay $500-2,000 per seat (all those 20 rows near the field).
As a diehard Phils fan I don't subscribe to the notion that the Yanks "bought" the Series; we had more than our fair share of chances and blew them. My overall disgust for the Yankees is not birthed out of the way they run the team via payroll, because all teams do that to a relative degree; what gets me is the way they treat their own fanbase. That's what is messed up. - CaviMike, on 11/06/2009, -0/+7*This listing has been flagged for removal*
- nhansen, on 11/06/2009, -3/+10Nothing compared to football clubs in Europe. Makes this look like a PTA luncheon budget.
- tastic, on 11/06/2009, -4/+10The mere acquisition of talent through free agency does not guarantee success. The Yankees payroll was comparable in 2008 but the Tampa Day Devil Rays represented the AL in the World Series. If payroll = championships then they would have won more recently than 2000.
Unlike other sports like basketball or football where a singular superstar with a competent supporting case like Michael Jordan or Joe Montana can carry a team, baseball games regularly have "inferior" teams beating "better" teams. While dominant teams usually make it to the playoffs, even teams who barely play .500 ball sometimes make the playoffs. Once that happens, almost anyone can win, particularly at the Division Series (best of five) round.
What payroll does do is allow teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets and others to absorb mistake contracts which would totally cripple teams with smaller payrolls. - crazeman, on 11/06/2009, -0/+6This is why baseball blows. I can't really blame the Yankees for pushing the limits of the "rules" in order to win every year but I blame Bud Selig and how the MLB is set up.
It's like the steroid situation, can you really blame the players for roiding when a good chunk of the league was doing it, and the player union was helping them cheat by tipping them off ahead of time when they were going to be "suprised tested" ? - UNCsucks, on 11/06/2009, -1/+7$240,000
- TwoKill, on 11/06/2009, -0/+6What is stupid about this whole thing is that the Yankees have won the world series 27 times in the past 100 or so years. That means they have on averaged a World Series every 4 years over that series of time. No other team even comes close to that. Not the Celtics or the Lakers or Machester United. They simply get the money to win it all every single season, and that makes it so other teams don't have an oppertunity to come close nearly as often.
- annonimality, on 11/06/2009, -2/+8Manchester United has the largest fan base in the WORLD. Let's remember America isn't the only country, and baseball isn't the only sport.
- theandy1, on 11/06/2009, -2/+7I'm surprised people still watch baseball. The steroid era, bad calls in the postseason, and no salary cap just make it uninteresting to me.
- MidwestDrummer, on 11/06/2009, -3/+8Great for baseball? Inspiring and fun to watch? What a crock of horse *****!! If I have that much money, I could buy inspiration too!!
- schlagsahne, on 11/06/2009, -0/+5I hear that steroid tarnish can come off with a little perceived post-season-clutchness
- sleeknerve, on 11/06/2009, -2/+7Obviously there are many many more games in the MLB season, so you are going to get a number much closer to 500, because the more games you play, the more it averages out. This is an awful way to show the presence or absence of parity.
- labizau, on 11/06/2009, -2/+6I absolutely hate the Yankees, and I have to agree. A villain makes it more fun.
- annonimality, on 11/06/2009, -0/+4Actually there are more Manchester United fans than there are any other fans of any team of any sport IN THE WORLD.
- homer524, on 11/06/2009, -0/+4did... you even read the article?
- goomba323, on 11/06/2009, -7/+11Because the more money the Yankees spend, the more money every other team in baseball receives (without actually having to spend their own money). When it comes down to it, the Yankees WANT championships, their owners EXPECT championships. They have the largest fan base in the WORLD (of any team, in any sport), therefore, they make the most money. If other teams owners cared as much and spent their money as wisely (instead of 100+ million for Barry Zito), then maybe teams would be more competitive. I just hate the Yankee bashers (when referring to their payroll). It makes you sound like a newbie to the sport. It's the way it's always been, it's the way it always will be, it's part of the sport. The Yankees are the Evil Empire. Every other team is trying to beat them. It's good for baseball.
- inactive, on 11/06/2009, -0/+4Honestly...at what point did you think that your fantasy world became fact? Most of hteir players are NOT their own drafted players. Certainly not their big stars. The only real big names they have that were home grown are all about the retire. In otehr words, all their home grown talen was grown in the EARLY 90s!
and don't give me the ***** of Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy. NONE of htem have had more than 1 decent season in the majors out of 3+ seasons of being hyped. And Hughes and Kennedy have had a mostly TERRIBL career. - Windadct, on 11/06/2009, -1/+4Actually if you really want to feel sick to your stomach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_sport ... - howdareyou, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3Aren't the Toronto Blue Jays the Yankees' farm team?
- indubitably, on 11/06/2009, -1/+4if they bought the world series, then shouldn't they have been playing against the team with the second highest payroll which happens to be the mets? (at this point in time i would like to draw attention to the miserable failure that is the mets)
- goomba323, on 11/06/2009, -1/+4oh please, every players wants to be a Yankee. Why? Because they know they will be on a team where the owners will do EVERYTHING they can to bring a ring to the city. Other teams are capable of spending just as much as the Yankee (and some teams, Red Sox and Mets come to mind) come damn close. Everyone sounds like a bunch of crybabies. If the Yankees lost, you'd all be saying "SEE MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU CHAMPIONSHIPS".
- PhilliesBlunt, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3The Patriots are extremely well run. The Lions are extremely poorly run and unlucky. Some franchises(KC, St Louis) are on the decline. Some (Oakland, Cleveland) just have piss poor management and personell, and Albert Haynesworth ain't got ***** on A-Roid.
Go Ravens! - CrazedChemist, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3This is hardly an argument. It's IMPOSSIBLE to go 162-0 in baseball. It will never. ever. happen. Unless yankees start signing starters to their minor leagues in order to get ALL of the good players. Baseball is just a different type of game where each team has a decent couple of players that can win games. Football there are only a certain amount of those players, and even if a team has one, their defense will still suck and they will lose. If a football team was paying 3x the amount other teams were paying, i bet that football team would make the playoffs every year.
As for facts/stats - Try looking up how each team has done in the last 10 years. On average in football, im betting they have equal amounts of wins and losses, probably close to 25/30 teams. Now do that for baseball. Probably only about 15/30 will have equal wins/losses. then there will be the 7 teams that dominate with their paychecks, and 7 teams that arent makin crap that are losing out every year.
Another thing: For the yankees payroll to equal the twins (just who i follow) 208 mil vs 68 mil
yankees would need to have A-Rod, Jeter, Teixeira, Burnett, Sabathia, Rivera, and pettitte to be injured. Still think they would have won in 4 with that? - goomba323, on 11/06/2009, -7/+10Why buy when you can just cry when other teams outspend your incompetent owners?
- eastmke, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3Crap. Replied to the wrong thread. Damn iPhone small screen.
- vsujohn2, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3Reason why teams like the rays or the marlins have been in or won the world series is because they sucked so much for so long they picked up a lot of high draft picks on the cheap. See what happened after florida won their first world series? The whole team practically dismantled itself because it couldn't afford to pay everyone.
- Wildfire760, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Probably the fact that it is a 162-game season and it wears your body down more then any other major sport.
- cockmaster, on 11/06/2009, -6/+8go ahead keep living vicariously though your sports teams. keep saying things like "oh congrats phil YOUR yankees won" with some look of pride on your face like you actually contributed. fact is, the actual players have LESS loyalty to your god damn city than you do. they'll go where the money is and probably didn't come from your city in the first place. and then there's the yankees...buying up and trading for the best players..and fans have the balls to have some kind of pride in that *****. how pathetic...
- annonimality, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Well after 9 years and $1.9 billion, with only one ring, I'd still say money can't buy you championships. But it definitely helps.
- inactive, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2what you are "pretty sure of" is wrong. I am not sure where you are getting this notion that the Yankees farm system is the best, but it is not true.
And let's see...from that list you have ones freom 15 years ago, some unproven players who certainly CANNOT be considered big time players yet. (As in ALL the pitching prospects) And that is pretty much it.
Plus, you went back almost 2 decades and named 11. Then you SAID you can go on. Buit certianly if you are going to stop at 11 you picked hte best of the best. And not one from the last 5 years is all that great.
Oh..and anothe thing is that because of hteir money, they get to make trading deadline trades that are VERY lopsided. Getting Hall of famers for crap since hte team knows they are going to lose them anyway. Other teams might actuially have to trade away GOOD prospects to get all stars. - nutmac, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Also, I think Yankees can afford deeper payroll because (1) it is in the huge market and (2) it isn't spread thin like some of the other team. Red Sox more or less can do the same thing (although the overall market is less lucrative hence correspondingly smaller wallet) whereas market like California is spread thinner with 5 teams.
Should there be a salary cap? Perhaps. But there probably should be fewer teams and shorter seasons as well. - eastmke, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Baloney. Every time there is a vote among the owners concerning a salary cap they vote overwhelmingly for a cap. Then the players either threaten to strike or actually do. Then in the course of labor negotiations, the owners drop the cap to get the players back playing. If you want to say that the owners should dig in their heels and cancel more seasons and world series, fine, but don't make it sound like the (majority of) owners are opposed to a cap.
- gkiltz, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Just the player payroll is more than the ENTIRE OPERATING BUDGET of the St Louis Cardinals.
Over the last 10 years, how much better have their results been?
Honestly? - inactive, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Then how come you care about baseblal? I mean, since you said you COULD give two *****, rahter than COULDN'T, it means you care. So why do you care so much?
- elryanoo, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2http://espn.go.com/mlb/teams/salaries?team=nyy This graph is more helpful than reading 5 paragraphs.
- sleeknerve, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2other teams wanted AROD, TEX, and CC, they just couldnt afford their contract demands.
- PhilliesBlunt, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2pwnt
- nutmac, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Nice source but that's a table, not a graph.
- goomba323, on 11/06/2009, -1/+3You are 100% right, anyone who diggs you down really doesn't understand what's going on in baseball.
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