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- sjbdallas, on 05/30/2009, -4/+7127K for a barebones dodge pickup? And they wonder why they're bankrupt.
- Eorster, on 05/31/2009, -6/+49They will sell them at auction long before they give a walk-in a deal. They are car salesman for crying out loud. Much like mortgage brokers, realtors and bankers, they will screw over anyone they have the opportunity to communicate with. Good riddance to the whole industry. Oh, add financial advisers to that list, there are more crooks in the United States than ever before.
- erhanaltay, on 05/31/2009, -2/+34Salesmen only rip off the uninformed. You know what they say -- a fool and his money are soon parted.
I know people in the jewelry business and they are doing very poorly in this recession. I asked one when they thought their business would pick up and he said "never." I asked why and he said something along these lines:
"10 years ago, people would come in and ask for help picking something and would drop 3k+ no questions asked. Now, they come in and start asking about caret weight, clarity, they shop around, bring print outs, etc. It's not the same"
I would imagine the same is happening in all industries. Today's appliance, computer, house, and car buyers are *MUCH* better informed than 50,40,30,20, or even 10 years ago. Of course it is the individual's responsibility to do their research or risk getting fleeced.
Financial advisers? Unless you've got at least 100 million in the bank or something, you don't need one. - serobill, on 05/31/2009, -1/+27When will people realize these "Liquidation" sales are a crock of *****? It is so hard to get a good deal at these stores that are going under.
- phylum, on 05/31/2009, -2/+24dont wanna offer half off?, i can wait.
- andreo, on 05/31/2009, -1/+16The dealer that I bought my Sebring convertible from a few years back is on the list of locations to close. I just received a letter from them not long ago telling me about the "deals" that they are going to have.
I won't go to them for an oil change let alone another car. After I drove my current car off the lot they seemed like they never heard of a Chrysler when I brought it back for warranty repairs. And when I was looking to trade it in because I wanted a hard top instead of convertible. Their price was 4k more then a dealer in another city. They acted like the other dealer couldn't possibly sell me the same car (actually it had more options in it then the one they were offering) for the price they offered.
To them, I say good bye and good riddance. - FreddieD, on 05/31/2009, -1/+13This is very reminiscent of my mom trying to sell her house 18 months ago. The housing market was in such shambles, it was pretty much literally impossible for anybody to sell a house at normal market value. Almost everybody who came to the open house was specifically looking for a steal, because they knew if that house wouldn't sell for far less than it was worth, somebody else would... either in the form of a bank foreclosure, or someone who desperately needs to sell in order to move to a different part of the country.
- Trollemite, on 05/31/2009, -0/+12"Seriously sales people aren't bad at all."
While I agree that Eorster's comment treats some sales people unfairly, your comment is just as retarded. You are taking the other side of the argument to the extreme. - Subduction, on 05/31/2009, -0/+12They address that in the article, but I don't want to ruin it for you...
- llopez1223, on 05/31/2009, -4/+15Aside from paying an absurd price for a Dodge/Chrysler vehicle, you can be sure that you're going to have to replace your radiator. They never ***** figured out how to make a car with a decent radiator.
- fbsderr0r, on 05/31/2009, -2/+12And water pumps. I put 5 in my grand cherokee in 4 years. 3 out of 5 it was the channel behind the impeller self destructing due to ***** casting.
- dakdak900, on 05/31/2009, -3/+12The price cuts they mention in the article seem like the typical price cuts for American cars so I'd demand at least half off. When you get used to seeing $5000 discounts on cars you expect $10,000 discounts from bankrupt companies.
- Solkre, on 05/31/2009, -0/+9Sad to tell you that "normal market value" was *****.
- fafaforza, on 05/31/2009, -0/+8OrangeTide, and you can get a very nice bicycle for $800. By your logic, the bicycle is a much better deal and there's no reason that a prius should cost $21K.
hint: A 5.7-liter "Hemi" pickup doesn't serve the same purpose as a Prius, and the people shopping for them are different segments of consumers. - Thistlejack, on 05/31/2009, -1/+9And when you get to the dealership to claim that 50% off Quad Cab, it's been "sold." Then, having successfully lured you to their dealership, they'll try to sell you on something else. There's no proof that they actually made a transaction at 50% off. Typical car dealer shenanigans...
- Subduction, on 05/31/2009, -0/+8Well heck yeah, it's 1,700 words! When are they going to stop screwing around and get these articles onto Twitter already!
Here are some of those words:
"Though Chrysler won't buy back unsold vehicles from terminated dealers, it did offer to help sell Union's inventory to ones on the safe list. But other dealers won't pay the full wholesale price, Khan said, and Union would be forced to absorb a $350 loss on each 2009 model year car and $1,850 on 2008 models."
If you need me to look anything else up for you, I'll just be over here repeating to myself that it's not the end of literacy as we know it. - nonymous666, on 05/31/2009, -0/+7Chevy S10 is (was) a compact pickup, not a regular sized.
- nonymous666, on 05/31/2009, -0/+7It's the base price of the huge-ass Ram 2500 pickup - those giant ones where the top of the hood is at eye level and are capable of towing your house away.
The regular pickup (the Ram 1500) has a base price of $21K. - thcobbs, on 05/31/2009, -2/+8"A house may be worth the money, but no car is worth that much money."
There, fixed that for ya. - RegularUser, on 05/31/2009, -3/+9I'll take any car with free goat.
- michaelarana, on 05/31/2009, -2/+8I wouldn't buy one of their cars even, if I had the money for it!
- Nickolassc, on 05/31/2009, -4/+10Or paint, or transmission, or body panels that don't rust and dent...Basically the only Chrysler I would ever buy is a hemi cuda and even those weren't build too well. My dad had one and even keeping it garaged the car started to rust around the fenders and the paint started to bubble.
- CaptOblivious, on 05/31/2009, -0/+6They can.
They can also take a much greater loss selling them at auction.
It is certainly up to them. - arplayer2k, on 05/31/2009, -2/+8You aren't getting a Bentley for 25k.... ever. Keep dreaming.
- Red989, on 05/31/2009, -1/+7The article said they could sell them to other dealers but they wouldn't get wholesale out of them.
They only have to go down in price to a certain level before they can just try to sell them to other dealers. - thcobbs, on 05/31/2009, -0/+5Come on now... I got 60% off the sticker on a Kia not 6 months ago. Do you really believe a going out of business won't do better?
- inactive, on 05/31/2009, -1/+6oh you hehehehe
- Maddoktor2, on 05/31/2009, -0/+5How do they expect to sell anything with a pissed off Bonzi Buddy on their roof scaring buyers off?
- dexx4d, on 05/31/2009, -0/+5There's gonna be a point where the goat is worth more than the car.
- yacks, on 05/31/2009, -0/+5It's an article about Garden Grove which has a huge Vietnamese population.. I've been in sales in computers before and a huge percentage of vietnamese customers always asked for outrageous bargains even on stuff that was already drastically reduced on sale.. We normally tried to avoid them, because we knew they were going to stand there and waste our time by trying to ask for a HUGE discount on something we aren't getting paid for to begin with..
- ddawggin, on 05/31/2009, -1/+6I was trying to make a joke on the quality of Chrysler cars not the buyback from closed dealerships.
I can read, I'm just not that funny. - CaptOblivious, on 05/31/2009, -1/+6That is all quite true, fortunately, many of us can do sales without making people think of the layer of rotted slime on the bottom of a greasy pond.
For some strange reason, those people do seem to gravitate towards car sales. - RiMac, on 05/31/2009, -2/+7They can ask whatever they want, really.
- mcsenget, on 05/31/2009, -0/+5By 'normal market value' you mean wildly inflated prices?
Take a gander at a graph of housing prices over time and see what happened in the last 10 years or so.
Edit: You know, I think that's sad, actually. There are people out there who think we're seeing wild "deflation" instead of realizing that the prices were overinflated as an effect of easy credit. This is simply a correction. The market value was skewed by the ease of obtaining a house. - arplayer2k, on 05/31/2009, -1/+6Way to blame the sales process, instead of an uninformed customer like erhanaltay said. Sales is the foundation of any business. Without generating sales, or selling a widget, or your service, the company = non existent. Think about what you are saying.
- Skalizar, on 05/31/2009, -1/+6Wasn't it just a few years ago that they were selling PT Cruisers for more than the original sticker prices (which nobody pays) because they were so popular? Welcome to the other side of the supply/demand equation. Oh, and car dealers referring to bargain hunters as vultures?! Pot, kettle.
- JohnChapin, on 05/31/2009, -0/+4I know the owners of a Jeep dealership and from what I have heard Chrysler is buying back vehicles at 70% of invoice pricing. So people are going to have to aim a little higher than that or the dealer is going to take the company option. On the other hand, they might take a cash deal from a customer around that same level... I have also heard about Chrysler's checks for warranty parts bouncing.
- lilrabbit129, on 05/31/2009, -1/+5Here comes the "no car is worth <insert amount here>".
Move along. - djphilos, on 05/31/2009, -0/+4Did you read the article?
- inactive, on 05/31/2009, -2/+6I rather pay full price for a Toyota or Honda than half off something else.
- BradBrown, on 05/31/2009, -0/+4Not as long as the demand for goat sex is high.
- mcsenget, on 05/31/2009, -0/+4UNNECESSARY COMMA FTW!
- Barackalypse, on 05/31/2009, -3/+7Perhaps whoever wrote this LA Times Article didn't see this ad in the Dallas Morning News listing this Dodge 1500 Quad Cab for 50% off MSRP. So, in fact, you can score vehicles for 50% off:
http://shopping.dallasnews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?adid=7 ... - djphilos, on 05/31/2009, -0/+4Do you think other dealers need more cars?
- kaptainchump, on 05/31/2009, -0/+4Shatner? Is that you?
- ha3er0, on 06/16/2009, -1/+4just send him a shout... oh wait! :)
- canada42, on 05/31/2009, -0/+3As was posted in the other thread, the other dealerships can't sell the cars they've got already. Selling them to other dealers accomplishes nothing, they're still going to sit on the lot unsold until the dealer has to eat the cost. There's a reason the dealers are closing in the first place. People aren't buying new cars.
- CoD4, on 05/31/2009, -0/+3I remember that website mysimon that used to promote this behavior, why pay more when you can research the ***** out of everything within minutes
- CoD4, on 05/31/2009, -0/+3which one, the amanti?
- SisyphusFragmnt, on 05/31/2009, -1/+3Actually, you are all slime.
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