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- freeridstylee, on 04/21/2009, -4/+55Do the environmentally conscience thing: drive a hummer!
- inactive, on 04/22/2009, -5/+53Great, now you can be a douchebag AND pretentious!
- zgf2022, on 04/22/2009, -5/+48If you get your energy from a source other than gas you cant use mpg (of gasoline) as a measure of efficiency.
- djtripp, on 04/22/2009, -2/+39As long as you don't go further than 60 miles a day. More like 33 MPG on a long rage drive:
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-humme ... - nhansen, on 04/22/2009, -10/+46..and is still ugly as hell.
- nryan1969, on 04/21/2009, -6/+34That's why those car companies need to start building plug in hybrids. If a hummer can get 100+ mpg then think about what my Jetta can get!
- Dinomight, on 04/22/2009, -5/+32This pisses me off.... I saw something on tv the other day with a similar claim.
This car does not get 100 mpg.
Like most hybrids the car uses an electric engine to power the car. It runs on battery power not gas. Like most hybrids it has a gas engine that charges the battery when it runs low. This car uses the the energy in the battery (that you charged from your house power) to run the car for the first 40 miles driven, after that point it starts up the engine to recharge the battery. They quote the mpg based on driving the car 60 miles, every mile you drive past 40 miles decreases your mpg.
You're still paying for it whether it comes from the gas or your electric bill.
I can't stand this sort of sensational BS. Stop maiking claims that there are cars that get 100+ mpg when it doesn't really run on gas. - hackiavelli, on 04/22/2009, -5/+29I'm skeptical.
- AReallyGoodName, on 04/22/2009, -0/+21Read the whole article
*100mpg only when recharged off the power grid every 60miles*
Totally misleading... - jerryjamesstone, on 04/21/2009, -5/+22Definitely interesting! Now I can drive over things and pretend I am Arnold Schwarzenegger with much less guilt!
- HelplessSEAL, on 04/22/2009, -0/+16The idea is to make something that's more efficient with our energy...
- kostka, on 04/22/2009, -2/+16Without battery power, it doesn't get 100 mph, so it's not really a fair comparison at all. Obviously if it's relying on stored battery power instead of gas, the mpg rating is absurdly high. However, the Prius is more energy efficient.
Putting an mpg rating on a vehicle which "is designed, first and foremost, as a purely electric vehicle" is retarded. Only those ignorant of the actual issue will be impressed. - TyrannyofBell, on 04/22/2009, -8/+21Whatever the case may be, driving a hummer still means you're an *****.
- sulthernao, on 04/22/2009, -1/+14Electrical energy is more efficient that gasoline. And we can always use green energy for that like Nuclear, Solar, Wind, Hydroelectric, Geothermal, etc. Worst case scenario we are using coal or natural gas, which is preferable to buying our oil from OPEC.
- regularsteven, on 04/22/2009, -0/+11you never need to feel guilty about pretending to be Schwarzenegger
- brad3378, on 04/22/2009, -2/+12And the Prius isn't?
- anubis2night, on 04/22/2009, -1/+11not sure if it's the same guy but gas2.0 had an article on someone that already did this, along with making hotrods that ran up to 60 - 80 mpg and could beat a lamborgini
- nmoulana, on 04/22/2009, -8/+18hmm.. Nope, the fact that you are no longer pissing gas driving one of these atrocities doesn't redeem its douche factor.
- ImOscar, on 04/22/2009, -1/+11BREAKING: You can't run something off of two energy sources and rate it in MPG. It's like saying my electric toothbrush gets over 1 billion brushings per ounce of gas.
- Altair27, on 04/22/2009, -1/+10Yea, and there will only be 2,000 of them by late 2010. The prius is good not because it's the most fuel efficient car possible, but because you can actually go out and buy one. And it's even been around a while. And it's reasonably priced.
It's no wonder the auto industry is failing, they progress about as quickly as snails. - tamman2000, on 04/22/2009, -0/+9as you should be...
It's "gas mileage" is being computed with the electric range included in the distance traveled, and they are assuming that the use scenario is the average one...
If you used the same technique to calculate the mpg of a chevy volt it would be over 200 mpg.
But the energy that you get from the wall is not free, it is not non-polluting...
It's a good concept but they are overselling it by playing fast and loose with the numbers. By my calculations from the numbers in the article, it's gas only fuel economy is on the order of 25-30... (very good for a truck, why can't they just be honest and tell us that?)
The following paragraph is where they lay out that they have been pulling the wool over your eyes:
"No gas is used up to 40 miles. At 50 miles a day, the vehicle would still get 185 miles to the gallon. For 60 it’s 100 miles per gallon and over 200 miles the miles per gallon goes down to 33." - AngryBacon, on 04/22/2009, -2/+10So...Toyota has created a perpetual motion device?
- zgf2022, on 04/22/2009, -0/+7I wrote my comment to point out the grossly misleading title.
If your worried about gasoline based pollution then read the article.
fta:
"No gas is used up to 40 miles. At 50 miles a day, the vehicle would still get 185 miles to the gallon. For 60 it’s 100 miles per gallon and over 200 miles the miles per gallon goes down to 33."
This vehicle doesn't achieve any spectacular efficiencies it just has a clever marketing team. - inactive, on 04/22/2009, -2/+9What the hell are you talking about? Infinite miles per kilowatt? Are you not aware of the conservation of energy laws?
- zgf2022, on 04/22/2009, -0/+7a hybrid generates power from a gas engine, a plug in hybrid is charging off of the grid. If you aren't burning gas to get the energy then its not effecting the gas side of your hybrid's efficiency.
- rutvik1, on 04/22/2009, -0/+7Well not only that, the biggest difference here is, the gas engine is dedicated to recharging the battery only, not moving the car. Something like this just might double our current MPG.
- inactive, on 04/22/2009, -2/+7It's not that simple. The electrical grid can't handle a ton of electric cars all of a sudden, and there are various issues that still need to be ironed out I'm sure.
- zenerdiode, on 04/22/2009, -1/+6That's a stupid quote. Hell, the thing can get INFINITE MPG if the range is less than 40 miles. At 200 miles, it drops down to 33 MPG, and beyond that range, it'll get closer and closer to the consumption of a regular H3 as the benefits of the initial 40 miles disappear without a recharge. A Prius gets you 50MPG whether you plan on driving 40 miles or 200 miles in a day.
Range extenders are great and I plan on getting a Volt when it becomes available because my daily commute is right in that range, but comparing them to regular hybrids such as the Prius and Insight is disingenuous and ridiculous. They're different beasts. - HappyScrappy, on 04/22/2009, -1/+6Inaccurate. It in no way gets 100mpg. They say it gets 100mpg because you can drive a while on electricity alone. But electricity isn't free energy either, and it should be included.
This is like saying my car gets infinite mpg because I run it off natural gas instead of gasoline. - EverTheCynic, on 04/22/2009, -0/+5The H1 is the only respectable Hummer, so far as a Hummer can be called respectable, because it actually functions well enough to offset all of that ugly. H2's and 3's function no better than any other soccer mom SUV and are still hideous.
- Graeleight, on 04/22/2009, -0/+5While most electricity is generated by fossil fuels there are two points to consider.
First, this is changing. New photovoltaic and wind turbine power plants are being built all the time and even more are in the works.
Second, the generators at a power plant are so much more efficient than your car's internal combustion engine that even when you factor in the energy lost to transmission the amount of carbon you are emitting per mile is still much less with an electric car.
Also as far as the grid goes this can be upgraded. It's just a logistics problem. If the demand is there the upgrades will happen. - inactive, on 04/22/2009, -0/+433 MPG?! that's terrible!
- firewall1, on 04/22/2009, -3/+7GM could have started work on this technology 15 years ago when LiON batteries started to become readily available. But, they thought 'screw it, we'll build what we want and people will buy it.'
- distortal, on 04/22/2009, -0/+4This, exactly. If you charge up every 100 miles you're suddenly only getting 25mpg, excluding the cost of charging..
- TyrannyofBell, on 04/22/2009, -1/+5Hummers are ***** hideous regardless of the model. It's like looking at an ***** except it's a vehicle... but I do get what you are saying and I will have to agree, put some D's on and this might prove acceptable.
- AReallyGoodName, on 04/22/2009, -1/+5No. As stated, this car only gets that MPG when it charges off the grid every 60 miles.
"For 60 [miles travelled] it’s 100 miles per gallon and over 200 miles the miles per gallon goes down to 33."
Really what they are saying is totally misleading. It actually has a much lower efficiency if you don't keep charging it off the grid every 60 miles. - amzran, on 04/22/2009, -1/+5If every car in the country were a plugin hybrid with regen braking and there gas engines charging the batteries and you plugged them in at night to share the electricity back we would produce 12x more electricity then we do now by all the power plants in the country.
- inactive, on 04/22/2009, -0/+4Methinks he was just pointing out that the numbers on this are misleading.
It's called implying something. - inactive, on 04/22/2009, -1/+5Just shows how ***** the prius is. Half-assed implementations GTFO!
- potatonet, on 04/22/2009, -5/+9they dont even quote the battery size, I am calling BS.
lets just say its twice the size of the volt battery. (which is 16kWh, 8kWh is used to get the volt 40 miles).
lets just say this thing uses 16kWh to get 40 miles.
now a gasoline equivalent factor for electricity (embodied energy, no heat loss, PERFECT CONDITIONS) is 32kWh per gallon of fuel.
if he burns 16 kwh of electricity to get 40 miles then the MAXIMUM efficiency of that vehicle is 80mpg. (32 kWh/16 kWh= 2*40 miles (for each 16 kWh) = 80 miles)
at ideal motor operating paramters, again assumption is the system works the same as the volt.
I still think its stupid and they arent quoting accurately. - inc595, on 04/22/2009, -0/+3and love the smell of your own farts too
- TVarmy, on 04/22/2009, -0/+3I believe there was a guy who outfitted Hummers and other SUVs with diesel turbine generators designed for tanks that fed electricity direct to a motor to get high milage, too. The caveat was that it's expensive to get what is essentially a jet engine for a car.
- yerdaddy, on 04/22/2009, -0/+3Sorry clowns. It's not possible.
- sugarazor, on 04/22/2009, -1/+4It still won't make your penis bigger.
- defenswens26, on 04/22/2009, -4/+7Now imagine if they did this to a compact. And no, please don't revive the hummer wannabes, they've tarnished the hummer name.
- TsuruchiBrian, on 04/22/2009, -0/+3“If we put this powertrain in smaller vehicles down the road,” West said, “you could expect about 400 miles per gallon for the average (city) consumer.”
Assuming all their claims are accurate, it has nothing to do with the Hummer a fancy new powertrain. If this powertrain is such a revolutionary new invention, why would you limit it to just Hummers? It should go in every car.
It's not like Hummers somehow make awesome hybrids. In fact even they think a "regular car" with this new powertrain is about 4 times more efficient than the equivalent Hummer. How is this a Hummer kicking Prius butt?!
You may as well stick a nuclear reactor in a Hummer and claim that Hummers only need refueling once every 30 years, and are now the most fuel efficient cars in the world. - Devine122, on 04/22/2009, -4/+7It's a Hummer with a Prius shell on top of it.
- werkerholic, on 04/22/2009, -0/+3I'll buy one if they throw in a .50 Cal
- inactive, on 04/22/2009, -1/+4All the pollution from coal and gas-burning electricity plants. A DUH,
- enantiodromia, on 04/22/2009, -0/+3it's funny to read the comments from the people who think electricity from the wall is somehow free.
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