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- ihavebeenseen, on 02/04/2008, -3/+35"most influential residence of the 20st Century"
I think not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater - fargoclimber, on 02/04/2008, -1/+29I am an architecture graduate student. It would seem that, at the start of their architecture education, every student idolizes Gehry and obsesses over his work. Their first semester studio is filled with deconstructive, shiny models of "Gehry-esque" buildings. But the fascination wanes quickly as these same students realize that most of Gehry's work amounts to nothing more than glitzy facade treatments. The functionality of his buildings usually suffers as a result.
- jphicks, on 02/04/2008, -2/+17I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
- ifnotme, on 02/04/2008, -0/+14His buildings are amazing to look at and very interesting, but my friends at MIT say the buiding there sucks to actually work in.
- inactive, on 02/04/2008, -0/+11Burried as lame. A comment from the site, QFT:
Comment from John Leeke
Time: February 3, 2008, 9:14 pm
"Well, for one thing, he’s being sued because his buildings don’t perform their basic functions of keeping the weather out, and providing a health space for the occupants, and for being impossible to maintain. The man should be condemned to fix every problem all of his buildings have caused their owners, at his own expense and with his own hands. John (just about had it with architects who think they can produce poor “designs” and excuse themselves by calling it “art”) Leeke" - jbmcb, on 02/04/2008, -0/+11I'm a fan of architecture - not a pro by any means. I think Gehry's designs are interesting, some are quite beautiful, but I think he leans too far towards aesthetics without taking into account functionality.
Take his installation at Millennium Park in Chicago. The large panels looming over the amphitheater are clearly meant to look like sails, and the effect near the water is striking. However, the effect is lost somewhat by the enormous reinforcing beams needed to hold up large and heavy metal "sails" on the waterfront in a town known as the "Windy City." The shiny, metal-clad crosswalks that go over the adjacent street are a nice touch as well, unfortunately on a hot summer's day touching the surface could quickly burn your fingers.
There were similar problems with the Disney opera house in Los Angeles. Some of the convex surfaces of the twisting surfaces created miniature solar furnaces, causing uncomfortably hot areas on the sidewalks surrounding the hall.
A truly great architect takes everything into account, aesthetics, HVAC, acoustics, lighting, views from and to the street and surrounding areas, etc... It seems like Ghery's involvement ends when he finishes sketching out the design. - tarquell, on 02/04/2008, -0/+10there are few architects in the world who get to design without the confines of budgets. gehry is one of them. (i work with hadid/chipperfield/hopkins etc.)
- hellosaysme, on 02/04/2008, -0/+9A close family friend worked as an architect for Frank Gehry. Apparently Gehry would draw scribbles onto a sheet of paper and leave it up to the other architects in the firm to interpret. As much as I like the architecture, I can't really respect that.
- rynTAU, on 02/04/2008, -0/+9As an architect, I'd have to say that his house did not shape a generation of architects.. It may have shaped Frank Gehry, and thereby affected others, but this house is collision of materials that is only moderately interesting.
- suxmonkey, on 02/04/2008, -1/+10The end of days is nigh, probably, live it up while you can!?
- Indyanna, on 02/04/2008, -5/+13"avant garde" - is that the French word for "this looks like a mess"?
- verynegative, on 02/04/2008, -0/+8I think the most influential house for modernism in the 20th century is "la ville savoye" done by le corbusier. I dont know how gehry gets away with his designs. the house in this article looks like it was done by a first year architecture student.
- jotate, on 02/04/2008, -0/+8He designed the Peter B. Lewis Building for the School of Management at Case Western Reserve University. We affectionately referred to it as the $75 million piece of metal popcorn.
http://weatherhead.case.edu/lewis/# - ace429k, on 02/04/2008, -1/+8well, the house looks kinda cool. *tilts head*
- mrsdz50, on 02/04/2008, -3/+10I am a firm believer that architecture, like all art, portrays a worldview of the designer and usually the time period. So what do we say about this?
- inactive, on 02/04/2008, -0/+7Building a metal shed around a pre-existing barn-style house is the "influential residence of the 20th Century"?
Yeah, and I'm young, hung and good looking. - tarquell, on 02/04/2008, -0/+7dugg!...but fallingwater is pretty amazing, and FLW was pretty amazing all over
- kidcodea, on 02/04/2008, -1/+8as far as "influential" goes, nothing beats corbusier and the whole modern movement. for good and bad.
- LokitheComplex, on 02/04/2008, -0/+6To be honest I find that second picture of the house hideous. I'm not against trying new things but it just looks like a construction site. It looks like someones first go at a 3D app.
Some new architecture just doesn't work.
Like the Scottish Parliament. - thethinktank, on 02/04/2008, -0/+6Buried as inaccurate for "arguably the most influential residence of the 20st Century." Its not even arguable. That's an insult to hundreds of architects with more skill, ingenuity, and creativity than Gehry. What about Le Corbusier? Frank Lloyd Wright? Van Der Rhoe?
Form Follows Function, Mr. Gehry. - shotgunefx, on 02/04/2008, -1/+7You'd think MIT could have foreseen the engineering flaws
- dxgg, on 02/05/2008, -0/+6The EMP (Experience Music Project) has got to be one of the biggest eyesores in downtown Seattle. Thanks, Frank Gehry.
- jbird32275, on 02/04/2008, -2/+8Yup, that's some ugly *****.
- isukeyo, on 02/04/2008, -0/+5"what is arguably the most influential residence of the 20th Century" -- are you kidding me!! This house is not even close to being the most influential residence of the 20th Century. Spend any time in any architectural school in the world, and the houses that are still discussed (in terms of innovation of the time it was built, and relevancy today) are Villa Savoy (Le Corbusier), Falling Water (Frank Lloyd Wright), Maison de Verre Pierre Chareau), and Philip Johnson's Glass House.
Frank Gehry is a 'pop' architect whose buildings may seem pretty and exciting now, but are unlikely to stand the test of time. He is currently being sued by MIT for flaws in the design of one of their buildings that resulted in leaking and damage. His buildings (for any of you who have ever been in them) are only good as museum spaces because they are impractical to live or work in. If anything, Frank Gehry is a great sculptor, not architect! - tofagerl, on 02/04/2008, -0/+5It's a hell of a drug?
- bjs3171, on 02/04/2008, -2/+7you really need to see his buildings in person to appreciate them fully. If you're ever in Prague, check out "The Dancing House"
http://www.admea.it/images/praha/Praha_dancing_hou ...
He brings, what are usually very rigid looking forms, to life. - hele, on 02/04/2008, -2/+7Wright and Gehry both fail. The most influential residence of the 20th century is located outside of Paris; Le Corbusier's Villa Savoye.
- jeremymccurdy, on 02/04/2008, -0/+5"Haha, I came up with something I thought was funny, I guess I'll keep posting it until people like me!"
- jeremymccurdy, on 02/04/2008, -0/+5I've seen old barns that toppled in bad storms that look similar, the guy must've grown up in an area where hurricanes were prone to happen and just thought that house were meant to look like they fell apart.
- GoingToShibuya, on 02/04/2008, -0/+5The house that was built in Santa Monica is like 2 blocks away from my friend's house. Gehry is never there (at least when I pass by, which is about 3 times a week) and plus he needs to wash those windows at the top, because there's tons of bird ***** on it.
- m00kie, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4What happened to Frank Gehry? Some call it a midlife crises, others chalk it up to a moment of revelation. However, it was probably the case of some decent acid or possibily killer weed from Oregon.
- quakerorts, on 02/04/2008, -2/+6What the hell is '20st'? What you meant was 20th.
- Betamaxx, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4fugly. napkin crumbling. crap. curvy.
- Kasatka, on 02/04/2008, -1/+5What a ***** disaster of house.
- thethinktank, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4Gehry commonly breaks the one true law of Architecture, as originally voiced by Louis Sullivan: Form Follows Function. Gehry rarely executes this, as he emphasizes useless design elements and cares little for actual functionality. With that, Gehry is not much of an architect. He'd be better off as a sculptor-- creating large scale objects of beauty that have no functional elements at all.
- cobbs, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4Neutra!
- drgmdp, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4frank gehry? only for so-called deconstructivists (which is a wrong term for what they do, except for peter eisenman)
- EricAnderton, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4Going just by the title in my RSS reader, I thought this was going to be about Frank Lloyd Wright.
http://images.google.com/images?q=frank+lloyd+wrig ...
I like Gehry's work from a larger-than-life sculpture standpoint, but I prefer a more modern (rather than post-modern) setting for my domicile. When it comes to houses, I like a form that supports an actual function other than "make a statement". :) - nicku, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4Funny, it doesn't look like a McManson...
- inactive, on 02/04/2008, -2/+6Rectangles are boring, especially in the 70's.
The problem with deconstructivism is that the houses make the worst possible use of space and the convex angles all over the place make it extremely fragile in colder climates.
Also, I had never heard about this house or Ghery.
I did hear about Gaudi though: http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Casa_Batll ... - marffa, on 02/04/2008, -0/+4
Yup, that's some ugly *****. - isukeyo, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3That would be an insult to mullets!
- inactive, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3Exactly. Form that supports an actual function. Gehry is the opposite of modern. His forms have absolutely no function, and in fact are obstacles to functionality.
- inactive, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3No, they don't even seem pretty or exciting, to anyone with a good sense of taste. Yes, one building of his in LA was so reflecting so much light that condos across the street were complaining, and on another, ice was falling onto the sidewalk endangering pedestrians in Minnesota I believe. I just can't understand why anyone would ever let him design a building in the first place. Someday, in a more rational future, we'll look back at this type of architecture like it was a mullet.
- nhprm, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3He didn't even post it first... He 'came up' with someone else's comment
- yersoocrust, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3Howard Roark was a better architect anyways.
- hudef, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3I liked the kitchen with the huge skylight. The rest was an abomination. The man should be punished.
- drgmdp, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3maybe he's not 'spectacular' enough for those fancy architecture magazines. which is a virtue.
- bat-21, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3I prefer Fallingwater but the most influential is Farnsworth House: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farnsworth_House
Not only did it have a large impact on architecture but design in general. You can easily imagine Steve Jobs living in it. - inactive, on 02/04/2008, -0/+3Who COULD respect that? He's a media favored architect. We're supposed to like him just b/c he's helping to deconstruct order in our society, like the modern artists Pollock, Picasso, Rothko, Kline etc. A few ads in magazines have shown those scribbles of his, and you're right they're informationless scribbles.
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