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iTunes 6.0 Breaks JHymn

hymn-project.org — iTunes 6.0 Warning - It appears that if you make any purchases using iTunes 6.0, from that point on you must use 6.0 — and then JHymn won't work for you either. JHymn will have to learn how to perform the iTunes 6.0 protocol before this problem is likely to be fixed -- so hang on, it could be a bit of a wait.

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  • SbooX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not really much of a surprise, is it?
  • SQFreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, but I predict 2 weeks until the Hymn Project gets a new JHymn out that works with iTunes 6. ...it cannot be stopped...
    • hargreae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+62 weeks until a new JHymn that can work with iTunes 6, eh? And here we are 8 months later...
  • Snyder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thanks for letting me know. I use teh jHymn.
  • agentdero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll spare my shock for later ;)

    But seriously, could this have been one of the ways that Apple is keeping those greedy record companies at bay? Making sure their DRM "works?"

    Food for though :)
  • AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1apple does have 1.99 songs like the companys wanted. they just hide them by bundleing them with a video, when videos were free before
  • thatsiebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fooey.. good thing I got a bunch of songs tuesday night and stripped them with jhymn instead of waiting.
  • saggygrandma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0You know your a geek when your worry more than laugh at the subject line....
  • saggygrandma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1'break ja hymen" huh? huh? aaaaahh forget it...
  • sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hehe... yeah great title lol gonna keep my old version of itunes if I can...
  • furtive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0JWho?
  • domc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is a problem?
  • lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0On top of this I had to reauthorize my Mac to play a video and it bumped up the activation count. Waiting for Apple Support to explain that one.
  • ozjmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who didn't see this coming?
  • anonymoustroll, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This is *MASSIVELY* bad news for Apple.

    Just about everyone I know who has purchased an ipod in the last 10 months has done so because jhymn was available to remove Apple's stupid DRM.

    Nice move Apple.
  • leehord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here is quick hint/reminder: Before you remove jHymn from your system, remember to de-authorize jHymn first.
  • gizzymo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0just remember in the mean time you can burn your songs from itunes to a cdrw in audio cd format and then reimport to remove all DRM.......
    maybe even choose the make mp3 audio cd option to do it, not tried that myself though.....
  • JimGardner1973, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1How about this. DON'T STEAL MUSIC ANYMORE!
  • agjimenez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1JHymn is not for stealing music. It only takes the DRM limitations out of the file. Your name and other personal information is kept in the file, so you'd be pretty brave to share your music. I agree "Don't steal music anymore", but it's MY music!
  • tryferos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does this break IOpener as well since its a JHymn variant for windows?
  • ReRunx5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"just remember in the mean time you can burn your songs from itunes to a cdrw in audio cd format and then reimport to remove all DRM......."
    I used to do that. Only if I knew this program earlier it could have saved me time.

    also what is the name of the program to remove DRM from .wma ?
  • fudgebrown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0what about song files that are already JHymned?
  • Darthpip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Being the brilliant idiot I am, I authorized jHymn and uninstalled it the next day.
  • jcostom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"This is *MASSIVELY* bad news for Apple."

    Massively bad? Please. Jhymn will be caught up in a week or 2.

    Stop. Think. Apple is about to re-negotiate contracts with the big labels. Changing the DRM scheme around a little to (temporarily) break JHymn gives Apple a bargaining chip to use with the labels, increasing the likelihood that you'll be able to continue paying $0.99 a track, rather than more, like the labels seem to be clamoring for.
  • Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"JHymn is not for stealing music. It only takes the DRM limitations out of the file. Your name and other personal information is kept in the file, so you'd be pretty brave to share your music. I agree "Don't steal music anymore", but it's MY music! "

    Actually you can strip your name and stuff out too with it. I just used it so I could play my itunes on my Creative player. I paid for the songs I should be able to listen to them. I just got a nano and now I can't listen to all my MSN Music .wmv files on it. They won't convert. Anyone know a program to do this? I just want to hear the songs I legally paid for.
  • TheJosher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmph :P All of the more reason to use Napster with tunebite.

    I hope Hymn gets updated soon. I still have 70 free-song codes I need to use up before July :P

    Josh
  • caylorb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yeah, I use EasyWMA to convert .wma files to .mp3. http://www.easywma.com/
  • drwilliams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0JHymn is only broken for music purchased using iTunes 6, music purchased using previous versions of iTunes can still be unlocked fine. I bought an album yesterday morning using iTunes 5, upgraded a few hours later to iTunes 6 and just now unlocked the album. Now listening to it on my Linux box...
  • bjackson128, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ahh I KNEW I shouldn't have upgraded... I guess jhymn will catch up in a few weeks (fingers crossed)
  • quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Here's an idea:

    Don't by DRMed music.

    Voilà!
  • iaskedTGT, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Here's another Don't buy from CrApple!
  • peerk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I just got a nano and now I can't listen to all my MSN Music .wmv files on it. They won't convert. Anyone know a program to do this? I just want to hear the songs I legally paid for."

    You want a program that will record the protected song while it is playing and dump it to an unprotected mp3.

    Many programs can do this. I like total recorder because it can accelerate the recording process(otherwise it would take 5 minutes to convert a 5 minute song).
  • blueorder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I should have elaborated. Music purchased with iTunes 5 can still be de-DRM'd. Music purchased with v6.0 cannot, at this time, be de-DRM'd.
  • peerk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"yeah, I use EasyWMA to convert .wma files to .mp3. http://www.easywma.com/"

    But it doesn't work with DRM protected music. Atleast that is what their site claims.

    "EasyWMA will not convert any DRM protected file and will generate a file which is usually 4k or 8k instead."
  • Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So what? This is like the fifth or sixth time an iTunes release has broken JHymn. It's gotten to be a regular thing. Big whoop.
  • craigtheguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Since all my DRMed tracks will live in iTunes, I don't have a big reason to use JHymn. The blockout isn't a surprise though... they should be glad that iTunes 5 was more aptly called iTunes 4.10.

    Really though, go buy CDs and Rip them yourself! Then you are DRM free and will not be locked in to a particular codec or bitrate!
  • khelmir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this is why amazon.com is the best music site in the world.. you get strange things like a msater copy, cover art, and higher quality drm free songs people..
  • trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0bastards
  • SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have yet to take the DRM off the songs, because I have not the need to do it, but I do have jHymm just in case. I wish corporations will just accept the fact that poor people and teenagers will always steal music (I use to when I was younger and poorer) and stop it with the DRM.
  • anagami, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0When someones burns a cd with a DRM aac song and then rip it, will it lose the protection?
  • Flyinace2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If your burn a music CD from DRM AAC or any compressed format and then re-encode it you will get rid of the DRM but you will also sacrifice quality because you are basically recompressing a already compressed audio file. crap in crap out
  • Mirag3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0eh, you might lose some quality, but if you burn it in it's protected mp3 type format(no decompressing, burn a full mp3 cd), your quality difference will be very small, and if you rip the cd to mp3s, then it will be about the same quality if you do good rips (jetAudio, perhaps?).
  • foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i got one word: rhapsody. i got another word: total recorder. well, actually, that last one is like...two words. yeah. anyways, i use real rhapsody to get my music. i used to use the free trials whey they gave you a full 14 or 15 days worth of unrestricted access! now, i think it's 14 or 15 (maybe 7) days of restriced, 30 second clips of music. the point is that the music is "on demand," you never download it to your hard drive. that may sound like crap, but it's streaming music, and i use total recorder to capture that music in whatever format i see fit (wav, mp3 (fraunhofer and/or lame), even in ogg vorbis--which sucks, but, hey, you can still capture it in that format if you like). this is cd-quality music (probably 320kbps (infact, i'm sure i read somewhere that it is 320kbps) and tons of it.
  • foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0jebus christoph! i forgot to mention--it's DRM-Free! no DRM! it's streamed to you, you capture it and encode it! that's it. shoot, total recorder even offers the option to speed up the rate at which the streamed content is played (which makes capturing and encoding super-fast). just be sure that you've got the full stream. ;)

    the only way i see this method becoming obsolete would be if real started implementing something like macrovision (or something like it for audio) into their streams (in which case one could create a streaming audio filter...) blah! that's never gonna happen.

    that's my two cents
  • MikeZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Its 5.2 or like 5.3 really but whatever it does video
  • billmania, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You could always just play the song in iTunes, and record it with some kind of wave recorder, then convert it to mp3 format. That's got to be quiker than JHymn. Just my two cents.
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