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- FishHammer, on 11/08/2008, -2/+21Isn't the whole point of the iPhone that you don't need a hotspot to use internet?
- diggimator, on 11/08/2008, -2/+17They're not AT&T customers.
- chkdg8, on 11/08/2008, -4/+19Man, T-Mobile got dropped like an ugly. AT&T FTW!
- gospe1337, on 11/08/2008, -1/+16Dear iPhone Users,
Please stop crushing our 3G network.
- AT&T - dharasick, on 11/08/2008, -1/+12Now if only we had tethering. And free.
- maxsunset, on 11/08/2008, -0/+10This is cool, but i wish they would put some effort into expanding their own network...
- macslut, on 11/08/2008, -0/+9To use your Mac at an AT&T hotspot:
The browser user-agent switch doesn't work anymore. This does:
1) Connect with your iPhone like normal
2) After clicking on the URL from the sign on SMS, turn off WiFi on your iPhone
3) In the Terminal app enter:
sudo ifconfig en1 lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Replace the xx with the actual MAC/WiFI address of your iPhone
Boom, you're good to go. When finished, either repeat the command in the Terminal with your original Mac's MAC address, or reboot your Mac so that you don't end up with an address conflict later.
Using AppleScript, you can automate this. Just create two AppleScripts (one to connect and one to reset):
do shell script "sudo ifconfig en1 lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" with administrator privileges and password
The connect and reset are the same scripts, just enter the iPhone MAC address for the connect script and your Mac's MAC address for the reset script.
If you feel uncomfortable using the Terminal or AppleScript, there are free MAC spoofing apps you can use with graphic interfaces.
Once you've connected with your iPhone and turned off WiFi on the iPhone, you don't need your iPhone. This means you can have a friend with an iPhone initiate the connection for you and then leave. You can find a "friend" by using software that scans for MAC addresses.
This is just as easy/possible with Linux and Windows, I just don't know those systems well enough to give instructions. - nrox653, on 11/08/2008, -0/+8Western US is strangely lacking...
- notadiggtard, on 11/08/2008, -0/+8Happy sheep!
May you enjoy YOUR phone as much!Cheers! - ChunkerMunker, on 11/08/2008, -1/+6Dude, did you just come out of the closet?
- doublefelix, on 11/08/2008, -0/+5Can I get fries with that?
- nardo510, on 11/08/2008, -3/+8man I love having an Iphone.
- SawButter, on 11/08/2008, -2/+7That's just to compensate AT&T slow and crappy network.
- soupdawg30, on 11/08/2008, -0/+5I've used this alot lately at McDonalds. Pretty cool if you need a wifi hotspot while on the road.
- edfx, on 11/08/2008, -1/+5iphone spoofing unfortunately did not work for me using Safari or Firefox. :(
Did anyone get this working? - Urkel, on 11/08/2008, -1/+5It's too bad Apple can't swing a deal like this for Macs. It's great to have hotspots for the iPhone, but it's already 3G so it's not that big a deal. But offer a service exclusive to only Macbook owners and that's something huge.
- SawButter, on 11/08/2008, -0/+4Damn, that's a lot of McDonald's !
- nardo510, on 11/08/2008, -0/+4its not that slow..
- carguy84, on 11/08/2008, -1/+5I'd rather have notifications already!
- BossKey, on 11/08/2008, -1/+4AT&T has love for the iPhone because they get $30 extra per customer per month for the data portion of the service.
- SawButter, on 11/08/2008, -1/+4I think it is more related to the iPhone's WiFi MAC Address.
- Junior612, on 11/08/2008, -2/+5Why can't I just have WiMax and be done with it?
- soupdawg30, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3McDonalds?
- 0ldmankdude, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3Which can be spoofed...
- lochness, on 11/08/2008, -2/+5Please change title to read "US iPhone users..."
There's this whole other inclusive world out there that Obama is going to teach you all about... - CatsAreGods, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3No, it no longer works that way, sorry.
- depro9, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3Too bad we can't have free citywide wifi! AT$T says that would be unfair so now we are forced to over consume ***** we don't need to check our email or when the next bus or train might be coming.
- CarzorStelatis, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3Public utilities shouldn't be able to charge whatever they like with their monopoly. Internet access is just as essential to economic activity nowadays as electricity.
- tupperbacharach, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3This method must be the superior Apple "intuitiveness" that we've heard so much about.
- notadiggtard, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3It should,DSL subscribers get free access so a touch should too,just another computer.
- eswartz, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2and also regarding tethering:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/11/att-tetherin ... - brokentone, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Yes. . . tethered wifi. . . wait.
- eswartz, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2http://newsticker.welt.de/index.php?channel=fin&mo ...
- emberjohn, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2That was simply generous.
- orion2013, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2great news but rogers still charges 60$ a month. I want an iphone
- macslut, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Realize what you're doing is a hack. A hack shouldn't be intuitive, otherwise, it's not really a hack, it's a feature. In this case it's a hack against the AT&T WiFi network, not the iPhone.
Steps 1 and 2 are required on the iPhone and have nothing to with what OS your using on your computer. Is there an easier or more intuitive method for doing this on another phone to get your computer on the AT&T WiFi network?
Changing your MAC address on your Mac is 1 step:
In the terminal, enter:
sudo ifconfig en1 lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
You don't need to reboot. This works on any Mac running OS X. As I described above, this can be automated, and there's GUI freeware that can do this.
On Windows, see:
http://www.nthelp.com/NT6/change_mac_w2k.htm
This requires knowing what kind of Network Interface Card you have, going to the command prompt (equivalent to going to the Terminal in OS X), and rebooting at a minimum. It may also require working with your registry.
Now, I'm not sure this is the best method, or even works with Windows, and that's why I didn't mention it before.
But instead of just blindly criticizing Apple's intuitiveness, how about pointing to an OS and showing how their method is more intuitive? - CarzorStelatis, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Really? It's available without a contract (aka 'pay as you go') in the UK. I suppose the US doesn't have quite the same consumer protection laws as the EU does though.
- steviesteveo, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Spam link - comment buried
- eswartz, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Regarding Tethering:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/11/att-tetherin ... - ibeetle, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Didn't Microsoft invest (something like 5 or 10 percent) in Wayport in exchange for an exclusive 5 year contract for Zune users?
Boy I Ballmer is pissed. - notadiggtard, on 11/08/2008, -1/+3So they should give you wifi for free so you'll be so grateful you'll buy an iphone?
You fail business 101 - ATL, on 06/20/2009, -0/+2sounds like its time for you to jailbreak and hit the forums to read how to do it
still a bit risky tho - Firefoot, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Bookmarking this for when I head to the U.S. next :)
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2The data rate: WiFi > 3G
- notadiggtard, on 11/08/2008, -2/+4We are the only country that matters.
- diulei, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Nah, if you look at a population density map you'll see that it roughly matches. As you head west from the east, things get MUCH less crowded, with the obvious exception of few major cities (LA/SF, Seattle, Denver, etc. etc.)
- mzkply, on 11/08/2008, -2/+4What is this, late-night iPhone Digg? ( It's 3rd iPhone article in a row )
- tupperbacharach, on 11/08/2008, -1/+2@macslut
Why is it perfectly acceptable for Apple fan boys to use the OSX command line to "hack", while a Linux or Windows user running "ls" or "dir" is an evil, non-intuitive HACK, which makes Apple so superior?
Is there an easier or more intuitive method? I have never used an eeePC, but I will bet $200 that both the Linux and Windows models employ a gui interface to accomplish the same thing that is shown in the OSX Terminal example. I would imagine the same applies to most Linux phones with wifi capability.
In addition, such a gui feature is incorporated in most of the major newbie Linux distros. The gui method is probably more intuitive than the ifconfig method. However, whether or not a gui is easier to use than the command line is a personal call, and not written in stone favoring the gui, as Apple fanboys would have everyone believe.
So, it is always interesting to see Mac fans tout command line procedures.
Another fun thing is to see the Apple fanboys talk with amazement about some mundane, trite feature, as if Apple invented it. You don't have to reboot for the ifconfig changes to take effect? Wow! I can't wait until that feature is available in Linux! - macslut, on 11/08/2008, -0/+1@tupperbacharach,
Go back and look at the thread. I mentioned "This is just as easy/possible with Linux and Windows, I just don't know those systems well enough to give instructions" in my very first post on the matter, to which you responded criticizing Apple's intuitiveness.
However, you still have yet to show an example of an OS that does this more intuitively or easier. In response you give:
"I have never used an eeePC, but I will bet $200 that both the Linux and Windows models employ a gui interface to accomplish the same thing that is shown in the OSX Terminal example"
I don't *think* Linux does, I haven't seen any instructions for doing so other than the two line commands on any distro. Windows definitely does not contain a gui for changing the MAC address. The instructions are actually fairly complex, require rebooting, and I don't see how you'd automate the process. Even the 3rd party gui apps for changing the MAC address on Windows are more complex and not as easy.
Again, if you know of an easier way on Linux or Windows, how about providing some useful information here, instead of making $200 bets that you're not going to pay up on.
"So, it is always interesting to see Mac fans tout command line procedures."
Why, unless you've got some irrational stereotype of Mac users in mind, most of us are reasonable enough to see the benefits of using the Terminal when it's appropriate...such as in this case.
"Another fun thing is to see the Apple fanboys talk with amazement about some mundane, trite feature, as if Apple invented it. You don't have to reboot for the ifconfig changes to take effect? Wow! I can't wait until that feature is available in Linux!"
It helps if you can maintain some sense of context, and not over-sensationalize the comments that were actually made. The context of what I was saying about rebooting was one in which I asked how does any other OS do it easier and clarified how easy it was on OS X. Nowhere did I speak anything about being amazed, and only brought it up because in Windows, you do in fact have to reboot and may deal with many other complexities such as the Registry.
So again, instead of baseless Apple bashing or "betting that it's easier", how about either actually providing easier instructions for Linux and Windows users, or admitting that OS X does this easier (literally a split second easier than Linux, but a lot easier than Windows). - napk, on 11/08/2008, -0/+1Used it last night... it logs you out for inactivity pretty quickly. Simple to log back in, but kind of annoying.
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