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iPhone Firmware 1.1.3 100% Confirmed, Breaks Unlock Apps
gizmodo.com — Gizmodo confirms that the iPhone Firmware 1.1.3 is 100% real after talking gathering solid evidence. The update installs without any problem in iTunes, which requires Apple's private encryption key to work. The previously published features are real as well. The update patches previous hacking methods, breaks unlock and third-party apps.
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- TheOS2Guy, on 12/30/2007, -70/+20Loss of all third party apps? Bricking (again) of non-activated legal AT&T accounts and sim cards? How sad for the hacked iPhone user, now a hacked iPhone luser. But they had to expect this somewhere down the line, yeah?
- blachole, on 12/30/2007, -9/+40They expect it every time their is a new firmware release. Whats new?
- prophetpimp, on 12/30/2007, -11/+23That they still put up with this ***** and still adore Apple.
- wafflez, on 12/30/2007, -12/+12They're called fanboys =/
No matter how many people apple sues or if they ever mess up, they're gods in the eyes of the fanboys. - starkruzr, on 12/30/2007, -13/+6No, wrong. Right now, the iPhone is the only realistic choice for someone in the United States who wants a powerful UNIX-powered cell phone, and it has a number of unique features that also make it highly desirable in and of itself.
Also, no one is going to update their phone if they care about 3rd party apps.
Also also, there is nothing stopping anyone from loading software 1.1.1 on their phone, which is quite jailbreakable. So really, what are you talking about?- Marshalrusty, on 12/30/2007, -3/+13Wait, what's the point of a "powerful UNIX-powered cell phone" if 3rd party applications do not work on it?
- awhiteflame, on 12/30/2007, -1/+5Because an SDK is due to be released in Q1 2008.
- cleverboy, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4@Marshalrusty:
The whole point is that they DO work on it. Right? The problem is that Apple doesn't support it, and updates have been breaking the functionality. The main problem for Apple, is that unlocking and jailbreaking and security are pretty much walking hand and hand. They can't stamp out security problems without breaking jailbreaking and unlocking, and they can't disable unlocking attempts without affecting jailbreaking. They're still "creating" the phone as a platform. People seem to forget that when they get themselves worked up.
- maexus, on 12/30/2007, -0/+2I think it's more they enjoy the products vs the company. Who would have thought it?
- wafflez, on 12/30/2007, -12/+12They're called fanboys =/
- prophetpimp, on 12/30/2007, -11/+23That they still put up with this ***** and still adore Apple.
- sleepwalkers, on 12/30/2007, -7/+14If you're dumb enough to hack/unlock your iPhone and expect everything to work smoothly after you update, you deserve a good bricking.
- GMullen, on 12/30/2007, -6/+10This is kinda sad, at least Microsoft doesn't pull crap like this.... does that make them less evil?
- luchid, on 12/30/2007, -3/+7No, Microsoft just automatically assumes its customers are pirates and locks them out until you can prove otherwise.
- cleverboy, on 12/30/2007, -1/+3Microsoft's platform is relatively open though. So, the comparison is more than a bit weak. Apple will be officially ready to support 3rd party apps in February. We can compare it then.
- sleepwalkers, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1As I've heard people say before, Apple is the biggest little monopoly in the world. :P
- Refrag, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1No one's iPhone is going to be bricked. People are over-reacting by saying they will be bricked -- at least not by the normal connotation of that word.
- GMullen, on 12/30/2007, -6/+10This is kinda sad, at least Microsoft doesn't pull crap like this.... does that make them less evil?
- MrViklund, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1I guess the hackers never learn.
- blachole, on 12/30/2007, -9/+40They expect it every time their is a new firmware release. Whats new?
- Ireland, on 12/30/2007, -7/+154You can continue to use your hacked iPhone, just don't update.
- EntropyFan, on 12/30/2007, -6/+5How many of the updates are security related?
It seems a race; with some hacker or Apple brick you iPhone first?- MarkOfTheDead, on 12/31/2007, -0/+3Yeah because those hackers that have taken all of their time in their lives to study and research and release for free their unlockers, are just a bunch of assholes who want to brick your phone.
- EntropyFan, on 12/30/2007, -6/+5How many of the updates are security related?
- cardyology, on 12/30/2007, -30/+47Im still rocking 1.0.2 & will continue to do so untill apple stop all this silliness..
- rnawky, on 12/30/2007, -32/+12If you don't like it, then get another phone. No one is forcing you to use an iPhone.
- prophetpimp, on 12/30/2007, -6/+10Its his phone and he can decide what he wants to do with it and that includes shoving it up your rear.
- Buelldozer, on 12/30/2007, -6/+45Isn't it clear by now that the "silliness" is not going to stop?
- maexus, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2Until the SDK is released and these 3rd party apps will be fully supported.
- zeeky, on 12/30/2007, -3/+38why not 1.1.1?
- phinn, on 12/30/2007, -3/+28Or why not 1.1.2? I've been running it with all the apps since it came out.
- SSUK, on 12/30/2007, -2/+0Because iPhoneSimFree still works with 1.0.2?
- cleverboy, on 12/30/2007, -0/+6iPhone SIM Free works with 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 last I saw. You just needed to reactivate it.
- cardyology, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1I unlocked with anysim 1.02 which has apparently corrupted my base band (doh!)
I can "Virginize" the phone then upgrade to 1.1.1 & jailbreak but to be honest I cant be bothered. The only feature I'd like from 1.1.1 is the double-tap space for a "." but really, its no problem if I don't have that.
I think maybe once 1.1.3 is released, JBroken & hax0rd I'll upgrade.
- cardyology, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1I unlocked with anysim 1.02 which has apparently corrupted my base band (doh!)
- cleverboy, on 12/30/2007, -0/+6iPhone SIM Free works with 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 last I saw. You just needed to reactivate it.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -11/+37Since when was patching security holes ever considered silliness? If they didn't and someone posted all your account info to the web you'd bitch about it all day long.
- prophetpimp, on 12/30/2007, -25/+8Wasn't Apple suppose to "Just Work". Welcome to the big bad world, Karma is about the bite the fanbois in the ass.
- 2shae, on 12/30/2007, -5/+8I hate it when people say this "Just Works" speech. The iPhone does "just work" but when you hack it and an update comes out which could and will brick your phone, then it's your own fault.
The iphone is more like the xbox 360 in this perspective.
Though I do admit that it's very lame of Apple to do this to it's users, who want to use third-party apps and I don't understand why they are doing this.
- 2shae, on 12/30/2007, -5/+8I hate it when people say this "Just Works" speech. The iPhone does "just work" but when you hack it and an update comes out which could and will brick your phone, then it's your own fault.
- nogami, on 12/30/2007, -7/+15Patching security holes is supposed to keep OTHER people out of YOUR phone, not the owner...
My windows mobile 6 phone sure isn't as pretty as an iPhone, but at least I can install whatever I want on it, run it on any service provider, etc...- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -3/+12If the owner is exploiting vulnerabilities to do something Apple has no hand in then it will break, end of story. You can install crap on your Mobile 6 phone because the mechanism is in place without having to hack it, just like you'll be able to do in February on the iPhone.
- r3zonance, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1WM6 and run barely belong in the same sentence. It's pretty crappy performance wise.
- prophetpimp, on 12/30/2007, -25/+8Wasn't Apple suppose to "Just Work". Welcome to the big bad world, Karma is about the bite the fanbois in the ass.
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -33/+11You're the silly one for using such a ***** phone.
- virtualball, on 12/30/2007, -1/+9Seriously, just upgrade to 1.1.1, you can still have an unlocked phone with iTunes and the cool double-home-button. Using the iPhone is so much easier with that!
- cbuddha42, on 12/30/2007, -15/+3Hey look, Apple is still acting like a bunch of assholes, fancy that. At least this time they are doing a slightly better job of watching their bottom line as keeping the phones on AT&T makes them oodles of money, but pissing off your customer base can't possibly help iphone 2 sales.
- jaytea90, on 12/30/2007, -7/+9didn't they learn this with the psp?
- coldfusion1970, on 12/30/2007, -1/+8Apple dont make/sell the PSP.
Doh.
- coldfusion1970, on 12/30/2007, -1/+8Apple dont make/sell the PSP.
- lothar250, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4just wait for the sdk
- rnawky, on 12/30/2007, -32/+12If you don't like it, then get another phone. No one is forcing you to use an iPhone.
- benitojuarez, on 12/30/2007, -44/+161Dear apple, people actually like you this decade after you were saved from bankruptcy by microsoft in 96 or 97. Stop being nazis and show some love to people who buy your stuff.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -29/+87Yeah stop patching security holes, leave our phones open so we, and anyone else, can do what we want then blame you for it when we break *****.
- Neophyte2, on 12/30/2007, -11/+6or perhaps just release an official SDK whilst patching the security vulnerabilities ...
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -2/+10Where have you been... they are releasing an SDK.
- manageMyRights, on 12/30/2007, -4/+1They are? Link please.....
- autoatsakiklis, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1http://tinyurl.com/3xcw9p
- manageMyRights, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1thanks.
- dkla, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1Unfortunately, it's the marketing agreement with AT&T that is keeping out phones locked, not Apple being "Nazis"... :(
- Neophyte2, on 12/30/2007, -11/+6or perhaps just release an official SDK whilst patching the security vulnerabilities ...
- Drewboy64, on 12/30/2007, -8/+10Can I get an amen?!
- twrife, on 12/30/2007, -1/+9RAmen.
- Dylson, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1Is delicious.
- MarkOfTheDead, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1Take this all of you and eat from it. This is a cup of my noodles.
- Dylson, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1Is delicious.
- twrife, on 12/30/2007, -1/+9RAmen.
- avatarpalin, on 12/30/2007, -1/+4I feel the love all the time.... Although that being said I live in Australia and that makes listening to the TWiT Podcasts a painful experience.... There is a booming trade in hacked iPhones here, i guess i should get one..
- liuping, on 12/30/2007, -15/+11Apple was not in danger of bankruptcy. They had a large pile of cash in the bank at the time of the "saving" from Microsoft...
- Refrag, on 12/30/2007, -3/+9You are correct. The "investment" in Apple by Microsoft was actually a very small amount (only $150 million) and was the result of Microsoft settling a lawsuit that Apple filed against them for Microsoft's infringement of Quicktime copyrights (of the code).
http://bink.nu/news/microsoft-has-made-billions-of ... - Tenoq, on 12/30/2007, -4/+3Wow - you just got owned by the Microsoft fanboys. 100% truth doesn't seem to go down so well on Digg. :p
- Refrag, on 12/30/2007, -3/+9You are correct. The "investment" in Apple by Microsoft was actually a very small amount (only $150 million) and was the result of Microsoft settling a lawsuit that Apple filed against them for Microsoft's infringement of Quicktime copyrights (of the code).
- barthrh, on 12/30/2007, -1/+12MS gave them $150M - peanuts. They had tons of cash at the time and did not need it. They continued to develop MS Office, but that is mostly because they make a ton of profit on it. The re-emergence of the Mac was made based on the success of their consumer models, meaning that Office and MS played little, if any, role in saving Apple. iMac, iLife, OSX and iPod are what saved Apple. Momentum built after that.
- r3zonance, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1Also that $150m had a little to do with an on-going lawsuit by Apple, whereby some of the Quicktime code managed to find its way into Windows Media Player or something very similar.
- MacParrot, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1Even as a long time Apple user I would say that MS Office DID play into the re-emergence of Apple. It showed confidence in the platform (even if partially court mandated) that allowed early switchers to move to the Mac without losing cross-platform solutions with Windows users. Until the arrival of iWork (and yes I'm aware of Open Office, ThinkFree Office, etc, but most other people aren't), there were few usable solutions.
- rejectpenguin, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1lol.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -29/+87Yeah stop patching security holes, leave our phones open so we, and anyone else, can do what we want then blame you for it when we break *****.
- sclifford, on 12/30/2007, -5/+14On a cracked 1.1.1 and won't update. It'll be interesting to see how OSS apps are treated when put together with the 'blessed' SDK that's coming in February.
- diggcommentguy, on 12/30/2007, -3/+0so where did you get this mystical 1.1.3 to install? (not being a smart ass, just wondering so I can install it)
- Firehed, on 12/30/2007, -1/+4He didn't. Read it as "I have a cracked 1.1.1 iPhone and I won't update it when 1.1.3 is available".
- diggcommentguy, on 12/30/2007, -3/+0so where did you get this mystical 1.1.3 to install? (not being a smart ass, just wondering so I can install it)
- Vektuz, on 12/30/2007, -4/+58As if there was any question that it'd break unlocks.
- romeov, on 12/31/2007, -0/+0Of course, this update breaks the unlocks that were locked via the last brick.... I mean break. Anyways, just don't worry about it and use this to unlock all the break's that broke the previous unlocks which in turn broke the break of the broken unlocks in previous jailbreaks 1.1.1.1.2.3.4.4.445 and 1.1.1.1.2.3.4.4.446.
Aren't iPhones fun?
- romeov, on 12/31/2007, -0/+0Of course, this update breaks the unlocks that were locked via the last brick.... I mean break. Anyways, just don't worry about it and use this to unlock all the break's that broke the previous unlocks which in turn broke the break of the broken unlocks in previous jailbreaks 1.1.1.1.2.3.4.4.445 and 1.1.1.1.2.3.4.4.446.
- schmo138, on 12/30/2007, -8/+25As soon as the benefits of the upgrade actually outweigh the awesomeness of the third-party apps, people might actually update. Until then, why don't you get all of those kids running around your development department in T-shirts and jeans with a "free zone culture attitude" to actually develop some cool stuff. Yeah? I paid $600. Can I have some freedom, sir?
- marx2k, on 12/30/2007, -18/+8You paid $600. Can you get a brain?
- WickEd101, on 12/30/2007, -7/+4Idiot.
- Elranzer, on 12/30/2007, -19/+6When you buy Apple, you must know ahead of time you are buying an overpriced, non-standard, zero-freedom, shiny toy. In the case of phones, the grown-ups use Windows Mobile. Don't complain when an Apple product isn't what your idea of an Apple product should be. It's always been what Steve's idea of the product should be.
- luchid, on 12/30/2007, -2/+8Non standard? Zero fredom? What the *****? Have you ever even used a Mac for longer that 10 seconds?
- maexus, on 12/30/2007, -1/+6Of course he hasn't. There are very few people who bash Mac and OSX who have actually used it on a daily basis for any real period of time.
- luchid, on 12/30/2007, -2/+8Non standard? Zero fredom? What the *****? Have you ever even used a Mac for longer that 10 seconds?
- happyseamonster, on 12/30/2007, -3/+5You were free to not buy it.
- marx2k, on 12/30/2007, -18/+8You paid $600. Can you get a brain?
- vekro, on 12/30/2007, -5/+17I just hope they can figure out the 1.1.2 OTB unlock with this
- joerod, on 12/30/2007, -24/+11why doesn't apple release some improvements instead of just hack fixes. i still cant send a SMS to more then 1 person at a time.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -6/+8... hack fixes are improvements. Hacks are exploited vulnerabilities and while you may be exploiting them for a gain, they are a huge liability for Apple.
- starkruzr, on 12/30/2007, -7/+4Please explain how 3rd party applications are a liability for Apple.
Also, hack fixes are not "improvements" in all cases. "Improvement" means an improvement to the user experience, not an improvement to Apple's control over the hardware the user purchased. Lack of multi-target SMS is a lack of an improvement which should have been there from the start.
That said, two third-party apps enable SMS to multiple people.- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -1/+4You're joking right? 3rd party Apps are not a vulnerability (depending on who makes them and who uses them) and I never said they were, the vulnerabilities that are used to hack the phones ARE liabilities. You remember the rash of Sidekick hackings where peoples contact and information were posted all over the web? That happened because of a vulnerability, every one Apple leaves open is a liability.
- starkruzr, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1You apparently don't know how jailbreak works on software version 1.1.2.
It only works using AFC over USB. This means that in order to compromise the phone with it, you first have to compromise the host PC.
- starkruzr, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1You apparently don't know how jailbreak works on software version 1.1.2.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -1/+4You're joking right? 3rd party Apps are not a vulnerability (depending on who makes them and who uses them) and I never said they were, the vulnerabilities that are used to hack the phones ARE liabilities. You remember the rash of Sidekick hackings where peoples contact and information were posted all over the web? That happened because of a vulnerability, every one Apple leaves open is a liability.
- starkruzr, on 12/30/2007, -7/+4Please explain how 3rd party applications are a liability for Apple.
- eatrains, on 12/30/2007, -2/+221.1.3 adds the ability to send SMSs to multiple people, along with other improvements and features.
- Lazyboy0172, on 12/30/2007, -6/+3who needs to send a single sms to multiple people? just copy and paste the one you sent....oh...never mind.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -6/+1So they're eliminating the possibility of a "non-approved" source writing software for their product, and then in the next version writing it into the base code, to try and crush competition and keep control of the medium?
Didn't some other large software company get sued for actions like this in the browser market?
Time for anti-monopoly actions against Apple?- MacParrot, on 12/31/2007, -0/+2Yes, once the iPhone has 90+% of the market. Wake me up when that happens.
- Brenner14, on 12/30/2007, -3/+6sending SMS to multiple people at once is one of the new features in the firmware update
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -6/+2So it's now part of the operating system, instead of a 3-rd party app.
IE/Netscape all over again.
Have fun, fanboys.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -6/+2So it's now part of the operating system, instead of a 3-rd party app.
- bradproctor, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4read the article.... sending multiple sms is included in the update.
- hotsoda, on 12/30/2007, -2/+2That's supposedly fixed with this very update.
- Clodhopper, on 12/30/2007, -2/+7is there a ***** echo in here? he gets it.
- hotsoda, on 12/30/2007, -2/+7By the time I submitted my comment, the ones in front of mine were already posted. Give us a break. :-/
- totorototoro, on 12/30/2007, -4/+3WTF? Those are ***** improvements, including sending SMS to more than one person at a time.
Did you even read the article? - Stirk, on 12/30/2007, -2/+2And that's being added in 1.1.3...
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -6/+8... hack fixes are improvements. Hacks are exploited vulnerabilities and while you may be exploiting them for a gain, they are a huge liability for Apple.
- mehan, on 12/30/2007, -45/+21lol @ iFags
- Link459, on 12/30/2007, -31/+12Here comes -843298 diggs.
But seriously, lol @ iFags. - lydecker, on 12/30/2007, -11/+12Whoa, third graders are on digg?
- sleepwalkers, on 12/30/2007, -10/+6You're why there needs to be an IQ test on public internet forums.
- Link459, on 12/30/2007, -31/+12Here comes -843298 diggs.
- bwdd, on 12/30/2007, -4/+20I'll give it a week.
- JohnDavis730, on 12/30/2007, -7/+35so how long until the next jailbreak?
- wondertwins, on 12/30/2007, -0/+12couple of minutes after the updates perhaps.
- betterth, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1The current method is downloading 1.1.1 and then "updating" your phone to 1.1.1 from whatever higher version you have. Then you just run the mobile safari exploit and you're set. Chances are that still works on this one, but you obviously don't get the new features...
- Kidge, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1what new features
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -58/+25wow. more gizmodo macfaggotry.
and I second LOLing @ the iFags. There's already an OS that you can customize, and it's called WINDOWS!!!!
HI, IM A MAC, AND IM A PC. HEY PC, IM LOCKED DOWN AND YOU CAND DO ***** WITH ME OTHER THAN LOOK AT SOME FANCY GUI. I HAVE NO REAL FUNCTIONALITY, BUT I LOOK ***** COOL.
Oh, that's cool mac, I'm actually doing useful things, because my users are smart enough to not be fascinted by pretty objects and stupid animations.- trunkster, on 12/30/2007, -8/+14A little sensitive there, girlfriend dump you recentlly?
- UNCCEJ1010, on 12/30/2007, -3/+19girlfriend?
- Ductapemaster, on 12/30/2007, -3/+6Plastic dolls and anime figures don't count as girlfriends....sorry
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -9/+3neither does what I have going on with your mom and girlfriend. She really likes the buttsecks though. :3
- UNCCEJ1010, on 12/30/2007, -3/+19girlfriend?
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -9/+8You can customise Windows more than OSX??? Yeah, okay buddy, come back when you've used anything other than windows. "Oooo look, I change the colour of my taskbar and have a wicked new wallpaper, I'm 1337!"
- sleepwalkers, on 12/30/2007, -3/+8I've used both WinXP and OS X and.... well, yeah. XP is arguably more customizable than OS X.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4So have I and I don't believe it unless you're talking about using third party desktops or some other crap. OSX is unix, it's more customisable by design.
- Elranzer, on 12/30/2007, -5/+6OS X can be customized ? Changing the theme color from Blue to Graphite doesn't count.
- sleepwalkers, on 12/30/2007, -3/+8I've used both WinXP and OS X and.... well, yeah. XP is arguably more customizable than OS X.
- jban4US, on 12/30/2007, -8/+7Yeah, I hate that I "cand" do things on my mac. I wish every day that I could try to remove some spyware or viruses from my computer. I also wish that I could frantically press ctrl alt del when the OS freezes. I also wish that to use any sort of unix-like tools I have to download things that poorly emulate them instead of them just being part of the operating system. Oh yeah, I also wish that I had a registry, you know, just in case I wanted it to get crapped up from applications that improperly use it. I also wish that I don't have the ability to use make, man pages or countless other helpful development tools.
Or you could not make fun of people for using an operating system, especially in respect to an article not really about windows or osx. Most of them have their own advantages/disadvantages.- Stalks, on 12/30/2007, -5/+4I wish I could play most games in my native OS without having to reboot to Windows
I wish that when I'm searching for an application, that when I do come accross it, it had a MAC version
I wish I could upgrade to the latest hardware without having to wait for a MAC version
I wish my latest USB device had MAC drivers- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2You found a USB something that Mac won't run? Must be a ***** piece of hardware, none of my external hardware came with Mac drivers, they all run on the generic drivers that came with it.
That said I miss the days of looking for a driver CD 50% of the time I plugged something into my XP box. Plug-n-play, *****.- bjornski, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1I miss those days too. It rarely happens anymore.
It's taken running Windows from something that "educated" people did, to something any moron can do.
And even then, people just can't make it work.
So they buy Macs.
- bjornski, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1I miss those days too. It rarely happens anymore.
- ronmexico, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2Yeah I can say I have NEVER had a USB device not be instantly recognized and function on a Mac. Can't say that for Windows.
- bjornski, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1I can
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2You found a USB something that Mac won't run? Must be a ***** piece of hardware, none of my external hardware came with Mac drivers, they all run on the generic drivers that came with it.
- Stalks, on 12/30/2007, -5/+4I wish I could play most games in my native OS without having to reboot to Windows
- Bggnz, on 12/30/2007, -3/+2"Sean: It's not your fault.
sdlvx: [Softly, still staring off] I know...
Sean: No you don't. It's not your fault. " - msodrew, on 12/30/2007, -8/+5you enjoy penis in your mouth, don't you?
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -3/+5No, or he'd wear the turtleneck, drive a Beetle, listen to an iPod and be reading this on Safari, along with his friends in the "Mac Community" having the "Mac experience"
On a Mac.- badjoke, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1And you're wearing a stained shirt, sitting in your mother's basement, eating cheetos, while running ugly software and "chatting" with your "1337 p33pz". Generalized stereotypes are fun! :D
- bjornski, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1Stained shirt: check. My own basement apartment: check. Cheetos: Nope, popcorn tonite. "ugly" software? Oh darn, those taskbars are SO ugly. Which theme should I pick today? And whatever your "nerd speak" there is at the end, well, whatever.
Enjoy your shiny toy. And remember to lube up when your Justin Long commercial comes on.
/serioiusly. If the two people on that PC vs Mac ad came in to apply for a job with you, who would YOU hire? - badjoke, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1Depends if you want a young guy that seems to be able to adapt to new things and work with others, or a bitter, cranky guy who just loves playing with calculators.
- bjornski, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1Stained shirt: check. My own basement apartment: check. Cheetos: Nope, popcorn tonite. "ugly" software? Oh darn, those taskbars are SO ugly. Which theme should I pick today? And whatever your "nerd speak" there is at the end, well, whatever.
- badjoke, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1And you're wearing a stained shirt, sitting in your mother's basement, eating cheetos, while running ugly software and "chatting" with your "1337 p33pz". Generalized stereotypes are fun! :D
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -3/+5No, or he'd wear the turtleneck, drive a Beetle, listen to an iPod and be reading this on Safari, along with his friends in the "Mac Community" having the "Mac experience"
- virtualball, on 12/30/2007, -7/+6Wow. You're an idiot. Besides the fact that this is a phone, Gizmodo just provided a huge story about 1.1.3 and even showed a video of one of it's coolest features. How is this "macfaggotry?" I guess any story involving Macs are subjected to this, as well as anyone who even says "I like the iPhone."
- badjoke, on 12/30/2007, -7/+4Your type needs to learn that for something to be functional, it doesn't need to be complicated. Functionality + Design = Apple.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -3/+4And an iron-fisted control of what apps it can run.
Functionality?
Yeah, ok.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -3/+4And an iron-fisted control of what apps it can run.
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -13/+9"A little sensitive there, girlfriend dump you recentlly?"
Don't have one. Surprised? I think not, asshat. Go ***** yourself.
"You can customise Windows more than OSX??? Yeah, okay buddy, come back when you've used anything other than windows. "Oooo look, I change the colour of my taskbar and have a wicked new wallpaper, I'm 1337!"
It's called THIRD PARTY APPLICATIONS. How about you get the ***** out of proprietary appleland, and realize that there are programs like styleXP and windows blinds which let you completely skin windows. Not to mention, I am very fond of linux, and I prefer KDE over GNOME, and I compile Compiz Fusion from GIT with a script I wrote myself. I GUESS IM A ***** RETARDED WINDOWS LOVER THOUGH!!!!! BECAUSE I HATE APPLE, I HAVE TO BE STUPID!!!
"Yeah, I hate that I "cand" do things on my mac. I wish every day that I could try to remove some spyware or viruses from my computer. I also wish that I could frantically press ctrl alt del when the OS freezes. I also wish that to use any sort of unix-like tools I have to download things that poorly emulate them instead of them just being part of the operating system. Oh yeah, I also wish that I had a registry, you know, just in case I wanted it to get crapped up from applications that improperly use it. I also wish that I don't have the ability to use make, man pages or countless other helpful development tools.
Or you could not make fun of people for using an operating system, especially in respect to an article not really about windows or osx. Most of them have their own advantages/disadvantages."
Wow, you're special. Picking on typos. You're a really clever guy. And the whole "REMOVE SOME SPYWARE!ZZZ" ARGUMENT> HAR HAR. Maybe because I'm not a MORON and I use things like NOSCRIPT I don't GET viruses, and I don't even have AV software that actively monitors what I'm doing (but I DO Scan). My computer is totally clean, so ***** you.
I have an opteron 165 that's stock 1.8ghz, and it runs at 2.9Ghz. I run windows Xp 64 bit, and SURPRISE. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BLUE SCREEN. On an overclocked system too. Maybe you should stop being such an ignorant macfag and learn that windows isn't as bad as apple's marketing department wants you to think. You should put your dick back in your pants when Justin Long comes on the TV and use your head. It'd do you a world of good.
"Sean: It's not your fault.
sdlvx: [Softly, still staring off] I know...
Sean: No you don't. It's not your fault. "
How clever. You must be a clever kid. Sit at the end of the lunch table with all the losers much as a kid?
"you enjoy penis in your mouth, don't you?"
Yes, I do, actually. So does Justin Long. We both suck and *****.
"Wow. You're an idiot. Besides the fact that this is a phone, Gizmodo just provided a huge story about 1.1.3 and even showed a video of one of it's coolest features. How is this "macfaggotry?" I guess any story involving Macs are subjected to this, as well as anyone who even says "I like the iPhone.""
No, I'm not an idiot. the iPhone OS is a ***** unix distribution with a bunch of nubby eye candy thrown on top of it, just like OS X. You've really got to hand it to apple. They take free (as in freedom) software, remove the people who actually coded it's names from it, feed it to ignorant *****, and THEN lock it down like this. I hope you all wake up and realize that apple is the biggest piece of hypocritical ***** in technology today.
"Your type needs to learn that for something to be functional, it doesn't need to be complicated. Functionality + Design = Apple."
Yeah, apple sure is functional. Try using your HOME key on your mac. Yeah, it goes to the start of EVERY ***** WORD. HOW ***** USELESS. Please, spare me your lectures, and go wank off to stephen p jobbs.- sleepwalkers, on 12/30/2007, -3/+5Is there any reason you're so sensitive about a goddamn OS?
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -6/+4thanks for the lulz.
- Stalks, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3Buried. Blocked. Reported.
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2cry more, noob.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2Third party apps are NOT customisation you idiot. How the hell did I know that was what you were going to mean when I read yoru first bit of douchebaggery. Way to fail jackass.
- manitoba98xp, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2There are third-party customization tools for the Mac, too. Ever heard of ShapeShifter?
- sleepwalkers, on 12/30/2007, -3/+5Is there any reason you're so sensitive about a goddamn OS?
- ronmexico, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1"Maybe you should stop being such an ignorant macfag and learn that windows isn't as bad as apple's marketing department wants you to think."
Actually it's my daily use of Windows that forms my opinions of how bad it is.
- trunkster, on 12/30/2007, -8/+14A little sensitive there, girlfriend dump you recentlly?
- Me1000, on 12/30/2007, -22/+3The video isnt from the real update,
look in the upper left corner, it should say AT&T (or another supported carrier) instead it says "nate"- yokozuka, on 12/30/2007, -2/+16FTA: "Other effects
Like previous firmware upgrades, whatever is in the user partition remains unchanged. Only the Apple-owned part is affected by 1.1.3. So for those of you who claim that this is a fake because it says "Nate" in the network instead of "AT&T," that's the reason. Nate changed the network name in 1.1.2 using Erica's Make It Mine program. The changed network name, like with 1.1.1 and any other previous firmware, is kept through firmware upgrades."
In other words: you are _wrong_.
Please inform yourself before posting false statements. - matyrice, on 12/30/2007, -2/+7Did you actually read the article?
- yokozuka, on 12/30/2007, -2/+16FTA: "Other effects
- snotrokit, on 12/30/2007, -20/+5another reason I don't own any apple stuff other than a mac.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -8/+8What? Security updates? They have those on the Mac too.
- viciv, on 12/30/2007, -15/+10i am so sick of this hide-and-seek game..
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -11/+3www.kongregate.com
Go play something else then. - SSUK, on 12/30/2007, -0/+2cat-and-mouse
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -11/+3www.kongregate.com
- kitaljevich, on 12/30/2007, -10/+5Bastards...
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -4/+7How dare they look out for their consumer and strive to keep their product free of vulnerabilities.
Seriously, how many times and I going to have to make the same comment before you tards read something and quit bitching?
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -4/+7How dare they look out for their consumer and strive to keep their product free of vulnerabilities.
- xenon221, on 12/30/2007, -7/+27wiggling icons?! Bill Cosby would be proud.
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -18/+5***** apple. Way to steal an idea from compiz fusion. How about Apple does something creative for once?
JW- corporalclegg24, on 12/30/2007, -5/+6Same to you, your comments are extremly repetitive.
Written on my iPod touch. Bitch.- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1You have no balls. You shouted fighting words at me, and I go to your profile only to find that you do not allow guest shouts. You are a pussy.
Wow, and guess what the pussy used to write his pussy comments? AN APPLE PRODUCT!
You sir, are a fag.
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1You have no balls. You shouted fighting words at me, and I go to your profile only to find that you do not allow guest shouts. You are a pussy.
- sleepwalkers, on 12/30/2007, -1/+7...because moving icons were Compiz Fusion's completely original idea and never done before, right?
- Kidge, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1either way Compiz Fuzion PWNZIZ
oh yeah and whats teh big idea stay on 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 whatever came out yer box till february
im currently sporting 1.1.2
- Kidge, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1either way Compiz Fuzion PWNZIZ
- corporalclegg24, on 12/30/2007, -5/+6Same to you, your comments are extremly repetitive.
- tyywebb, on 12/30/2007, -0/+6How did dey get dem jello puddins in my phone now with the jello and and wigglin and the puddins!?
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1Them iPhone buttons got CosOWNED!
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1Bleh, JellOWNED, I screwed up an SL joke reference.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1Bleh, JellOWNED, I screwed up an SL joke reference.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1Them iPhone buttons got CosOWNED!
- SSUK, on 12/30/2007, -0/+0but they don't know what the jazz is all about!
- sdlvx, on 12/30/2007, -18/+5***** apple. Way to steal an idea from compiz fusion. How about Apple does something creative for once?
- Clodhopper, on 12/30/2007, -2/+8That rearranging icons thing is cool. I wonder if they could make customize work like this on 1.1.2
- Loyaleagle, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1for those who care about the built in features and stuff....here's a link to the non-hacked new features: http://gizmodo.com/338872/new-leaked-iphone-firmwa ...
- phinn, on 12/30/2007, -11/+9How is this any different from any of the previous firmwares? They always break the exploit, and a new one is found.
"The more they tighten their grips the more we will slip through they fingers"
or something.
This whole thing is getting old and stupid though. Clearly "hacking" the iPhone is doing nothing harmful and only expanding the iPhones poor functionality.
I hope they release the rumored SDK and everything gets better. I love my iPhone my "hacked" 1.1.2 iPhone nonetheless.- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -0/+5Hacking it the way it is being hack is doing nothing harmful, however leaving an exploit open leaves it open to be hacked by more than just jailbreakers looking to expand th functionality.
- aznhomig, on 12/30/2007, -8/+17This is reminiscent of Sony and their fascist hold over the PSP, despite the homebrew community's constant downgraders and hacks to bypass the firmwares.
The iPhone's development community will flourish and multiply just like the PSP's development community did.- nogami, on 12/30/2007, -6/+7Personally, I can't be bothered. I'd rather just purchase a phone that's unlocked and works the way I want it to. And I did... Funny how it's MS providing that solution...
- manageMyRights, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4Why are you digging him down? Out of the box Windows Mobile 6 allows all of the things a hacked iphone can do.
- r3zonance, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1Except nice fluid animation, and hardly any crashing.
WM6 is crap. As always the MS solution is the bare minimum functionality solution.- manageMyRights, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1And as always, the Mac product does even less but in a slicker package for 4x the money. Sure the iphone does what it does well, but its so limited: no gps, no picture message, no instant messaging, no 3G, no actual keyboard, no deleting individual texts, no playing avis or wmvs, on 3rd party apps, no java, blah blah blah
- r3zonance, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1Except nice fluid animation, and hardly any crashing.
- manageMyRights, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4Why are you digging him down? Out of the box Windows Mobile 6 allows all of the things a hacked iphone can do.
- nogami, on 12/30/2007, -6/+7Personally, I can't be bothered. I'd rather just purchase a phone that's unlocked and works the way I want it to. And I did... Funny how it's MS providing that solution...
- WickEd101, on 12/30/2007, -4/+8I don't like this idea of saying "100% confirmed". There's no such thing as being partially confirmed; if there was it could not be considered confirmed. It's either confirmed or it isn't. This title is just a series of buzz words thrown around to catch readers' eyes.
- qbify, on 12/30/2007, -4/+30The password is CANTTOUCHTHIS
- BenBenMan, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4Na na na na ... na na ... na na?
- awhiteflame, on 12/30/2007, -0/+5Break it down.
- BenBenMan, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4Na na na na ... na na ... na na?
- Onetrack, on 12/30/2007, -8/+5damnit, this is going to break all the 3rd party apps I have installed on the itouch. Makes a very nice wi-fi pda.
How do you stop the update? I havnt figured that out yet.- srg13, on 12/30/2007, -0/+13iTunes should ask you if you want to upgrade to the latest firmware - click no...
- tyywebb, on 12/30/2007, -3/+1Ack, just jailbroke my touch last night. Guess I can look forward to iTunes constantly bugging me to upgrade. Now if Final Fantasy VII would just download a little faster...
- likwidfuzion, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4iTunes does not constantly bug you to update. It'll ask you only once...
- xhhux, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4so... how long will it take to break 1.1.3?
- IVIrMP3, on 12/30/2007, -0/+14I guess I'm not updating my phone until Feb.
- ParappaDaCrappa, on 12/30/2007, -0/+7Does this mean that all of the apps i have i my new ipod are no good anymore...Or am i safe on my touch?
- fyre2012, on 12/30/2007, -3/+2did you jailbreak your ipod touch?
- ParappaDaCrappa, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1yea course I did why else would I ask?
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -3/+1Then you're *****.
- r3zonance, on 12/30/2007, -1/+1@bjornski
Where the hell do you get that idea from?
- ParappaDaCrappa, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1yea course I did why else would I ask?
- Firehed, on 12/30/2007, -1/+7It's not like Apple is forcing you to update the thing. When it asks if you want to update, click 'no'. Problem solved.
- SSUK, on 12/30/2007, -2/+0Not forcing you... YET. There will most definitely come a time where these updates won't be optional.
- betasp, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3Source?
- SSUK, on 12/30/2007, -2/+0Not forcing you... YET. There will most definitely come a time where these updates won't be optional.
- fyre2012, on 12/30/2007, -3/+2did you jailbreak your ipod touch?
- 0260, on 12/30/2007, -13/+1i thought this apple phone fad passed already. still kicking? hmm
- vernsan, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2I'm still wondering about iTunes if it'll install the new update without asking me since I'm Jailbroken on 1.1.2.
- chkdg8, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4Just 19 more days to macworld. Let's see what kind of bombs will Steve drop on the world.
- peestandingup, on 12/30/2007, -8/+3Probably another ***** bomb like the iPhone was. It looked GREAT...at first. Then came all the other "announcements" & then reality set in.
- NotaFanboy87, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4This is clearly *****. Apple told EVERYBODY what the phone was and wasn't capable of when they announced it at Macworld. It was pop culture that put the iPhone on such a superficial pedestal. It is what it is, a border hopper between the Corporate Phone world, and the consumer phone world. Get used to it.
- peestandingup, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1Oh really? Did they tell us about 3 party apps, an SDK & those "cool" web apps?? Did they tell us about unlocking??? Did they tell us about bricking phones??? Did they tell us about all the missing features they were gonna hold for ransom so users would be inclined to update their phones (aka, brick them & wipe out all 3rd party apps)????
I must have missed that part.
- peestandingup, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1Oh really? Did they tell us about 3 party apps, an SDK & those "cool" web apps?? Did they tell us about unlocking??? Did they tell us about bricking phones??? Did they tell us about all the missing features they were gonna hold for ransom so users would be inclined to update their phones (aka, brick them & wipe out all 3rd party apps)????
- NotaFanboy87, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4This is clearly *****. Apple told EVERYBODY what the phone was and wasn't capable of when they announced it at Macworld. It was pop culture that put the iPhone on such a superficial pedestal. It is what it is, a border hopper between the Corporate Phone world, and the consumer phone world. Get used to it.
- peestandingup, on 12/30/2007, -8/+3Probably another ***** bomb like the iPhone was. It looked GREAT...at first. Then came all the other "announcements" & then reality set in.
- MPB326, on 12/30/2007, -3/+19DELETE MULTIPLE EMAILS AT ONCE....PLEASE!!!!
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -9/+3You'll have to pay for that feature.
It'll be in the 1.1.4 update. Which will again strip your phone of all 3-rd party apps.
Sounds like monopolistic practices to me.- srg13, on 12/30/2007, -1/+8"Sounds like monopolistic practices to me."
Monopolistic? Yeah, they really have a monopoly on the phone market...
Anyway - 1.1.3 will probably be the update that lets you load 3rd party apps onto the phone/iPod - why would you need to move icons to other screens if you only had the few stock ones?- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -5/+2So you can buy the Apple ones they'll add at the Apple store.
For $9.99 each.
And no, I don't seriously think it's a monopoly. But if Microsoft had done this, those would be the cries. And I think the double-standard is quite funny, especially when it lands in the Mac camp.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -5/+2So you can buy the Apple ones they'll add at the Apple store.
- jonshipman, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3Unless Apple tells AT&T to stop selling Blackberrys and WM I think they're safe from being monopolistic. What does Apple have to gain from removing jailbroken status? I think they're just patching the security holes that jailbrake utilizes. I think on previous updates someone found that their apps were still on the iphone hdd, but the ability to use them was taken out because it was an exploit.
- srg13, on 12/30/2007, -1/+8"Sounds like monopolistic practices to me."
- ryancalderoni, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1yeah, that would be nice
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -9/+3You'll have to pay for that feature.
- ryan83189, on 12/30/2007, -5/+30this is PSP all over again.
- PunkRampant, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3I thought the same thing. Apple should learn from Sony's mistakes and give up on this useless tug-of-war before they waste too much energy on it.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -1/+4Again how is patching security vulnerabilities a mistake?
- SSUK, on 12/30/2007, -0/+0Because they will all get cracked eventually. There's nothing which people have made for the iPhone so far which has been deemed a 'security risk' to anything but the phone itself. And all these security vulnerabilities, as you call them do nothing but restrict what the user can do. Locks the phone to one carrier, stops applications from being run, stops iPod Touch users from having features of which it's capable of, but for some reason Apple doesn't want them to be used by iPod touch users. They then put a big happy smiley face on it by saying the iPhone now has... A new GPS feature! Yippee!
- coldpockets, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1The jailbreaks work because of security vulnerabilities. The 1.1.1 jailbreak made use of the TIFF exploit in mobile safari. You could execute code that was contained in a TIFF file, definitely a bad thing. It just so happened that so far it had only been used in a way people deemed useful. I'm sure it could have been easily used for nefarious purposes.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -1/+4Again how is patching security vulnerabilities a mistake?
- PunkRampant, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3I thought the same thing. Apple should learn from Sony's mistakes and give up on this useless tug-of-war before they waste too much energy on it.
- fyre2012, on 12/30/2007, -1/+9cat, meet mouse
- mrfreeziexp, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3why were the icons shaking? was that just the camera? I hope it's not the update, that'd give me a headache.
- ymewish, on 12/30/2007, -1/+9It's very simple guys. If you hack, don't update! If you update, don't hack!
- protium, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1You need a nice dose of shut the ***** up.
- alz0rz, on 12/30/2007, -3/+8COPY+PASTE AND FLASH PLEASE!!!
- SystemError, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1needed so very much, PPPPPLLLLLLEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE.................Apple, Please
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -2/+7No Flash for you. You're stuck with Quicktime.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4Apple does not make Flash.
- liuping, on 12/30/2007, -1/+3They can (and should) still add it to the iphone, even if they don't make it.
The "full web on you phone" is just not true if you cannot use flash based web sites. It's the largest glaring whole in the browser experience on the iPhone...- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -0/+5They can't add it onto the phone until Adobe releases a version that will run on the chipset the iPhone Runs.
- r3zonance, on 12/30/2007, -1/+2Flash on the iPhone would be crap, it'd sap the battery more than 3G would :P
- liuping, on 12/31/2007, -1/+1But I should have the option to use it , maybe with a warning about battery life. There are pages I need to access from time to time and flat out not supporting them is just annoying.
- liuping, on 12/30/2007, -1/+3They can (and should) still add it to the iphone, even if they don't make it.
- SystemError, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1needed so very much, PPPPPLLLLLLEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE.................Apple, Please
- Dorian822, on 12/30/2007, -9/+8Why is it when the "evil" Microsoft gets vanquished by "user-friendly" Apple I now see this total role reversal with Microsoft...well, just becoming somewhat inept in the field of PCs while Apple is becoming stringently domineering. I mean, is this a new thing or just something that comes with massive success?
- tyywebb, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3Total power corrupts totally.
- r3zonance, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3Didn't know Microsoft made PCs.
- adude, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4It's very interesting to observe that Apple implemented the paginated home page in the same way as the hacked community did, with the weather-widget-like dots. Granted, it's not that big of a deal since that custom is prevalent throughout Apple's designs, but still, it'll be very interesting to see come February how similar Apple's implementations will be to those of the hacking community.
- dagamer34, on 12/30/2007, -1/+3I'm guessing because pagination is just an enabled hack, and not custom written code.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -6/+2Building 3-rd party developed features into their phones OS, eliminating competition.
Sounds like MS all over again.
"Steve would never do that to us! Microsoft is evil! Apple is perfect right out of the box!"
/you fanboys are so cute when you get upset. - liuping, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4The "dots" pagination is already in 1.1.2, just needs to be enabled by editing the pref file for springboard, so it's not surprising it's enabled in 1.1.3...
- Firehed, on 12/30/2007, -4/+4Anyone spot that it said "Nate" in the area normally reserved for the carrier name? That's quite easily done with third-party software on current hacked phones; something tells me that AT&T et al wouldn't really want the one shred of branding they have on the phone to disappear. I'm not one to normally call BS on this kind of thing, but that makes me suspect some really clever hacked app (not to mention how un-Apple jiggly app icons seems).
Dunno... I expect we'll know around Macworld for sure. In any case, I for one have no interest in updating mine until I can run each and every one of the plethora of third-party apps I have installed - for free, as they are now. If that means I can get them for free through iTunes when the SDK comes out and they get ported over, fine. Most of the utilities I have now are fine as donationware, but I wouldn't cough up ten bucks a piece of them as so many Mac developers want for their tiny single-purpose software.- happyseamonster, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1FTA: "We had some doubts, but now we can tell you we are sure: the new firmware 1.1.3 is real. Or as Nate puts it: "if it is a hoax, they did a buttload of work.""
If it were a hoax, wouldn't it be Natetrue doing the hoax? I guess not, since the "they" he references is not Apple. He's not privy to updates directly from Apple. So, Nate did not get it from Apple, he got it from yet another unofficial source. In my opinion this is not real, jizzmodo is full of it, and Apple would never have the icons wobbling like that.
- happyseamonster, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1FTA: "We had some doubts, but now we can tell you we are sure: the new firmware 1.1.3 is real. Or as Nate puts it: "if it is a hoax, they did a buttload of work.""
- zonk3r, on 12/30/2007, -5/+6If you don't want the new features don't update. Quitchyerbitchin'.
- SystemError, on 12/30/2007, -3/+2very very well put!
- digitallysick, on 12/30/2007, -2/+2last update i lost my contacts, i hate it, and i love my 3rd party apps, until they have MMS, landscape txt messages, then im not updating
- awhiteflame, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1You lost your contacts? It should auto re-sync right after the update?
- digitallysick, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1Its my own fault, because i never sync'd my contacts to my mac to start with , when i should have
- awhiteflame, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1You lost your contacts? It should auto re-sync right after the update?
- skinrock, on 12/30/2007, -1/+4nvm, someone already got buried for the carrier remark.
- cheez124, on 12/30/2007, -0/+3im really intrigued by the pseudo-GPS, and re-arranging apps will be sweet
- pyrates, on 12/30/2007, -0/+6Wasn't the same thing said about 1.1.2 when it came out?
- 3210, on 12/30/2007, -6/+3I wonder how much longer the customers are going to take this from Apple, as they don't seem to intend to stop breaking third party applications with every new update. I'm glad that I did not buy an iPhone, I would have hated to not be able to modify my phone in any way that I would have liked, and instead I would be limited to what Apple wanted me to do with it. It is a very stupid policy.
- noahhoward, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4How long they'll take security fixes??
- liuping, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1It only breaks third party apps added by jailbreaking the phone, something Apple never intended users to be able to do. once the SDK is out and legitimate 3rd party apps start appearing, they will not break with each update.
- bjornski, on 12/30/2007, -11/+4Ron Paul would let you run anything you wanted on your iPhone.
Install iRon Paul!
/or avoid the cult, don't buy Apple. Or vote RP- starfire039, on 12/30/2007, -1/+0just.... get screwed, and get a life
- and303, on 12/30/2007, -10/+5I always go through this cycle when Apple products are released:
1. Interested to hear more about it.
2. On the fence about buying it.
3. Thanking myself for not buying it after the company treats its customers like *****.
...whether its the iPhone with the patches, Leopard with the wireless ***** that STILL hasn't been patched, the iPods with the batteries, etc, etc, etc. I'm trying Steve, I'm trying reeeally hard to like your company.- rimantas, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4this company still has other 99,99% of customers who couldn't care less about third party apps on iPhone or be bothered about "non replaceable" batteries in iPod, etc., etc. etc. because iPhone works just fine for them as-is, and so does iPod which will most likely be replaced with a newer model long before it's battery will need replacement.
- and303, on 12/30/2007, -1/+099.99% could care less about third party apps?
I'd recheck those numbers.
- and303, on 12/30/2007, -1/+099.99% could care less about third party apps?
- awhiteflame, on 12/30/2007, -2/+3Wait what? You were on the fence on buying it and then you're thanking yourself for not buying it because they are doing exactly what they said that they would do?
It doesn't seem like a case of Apple treating customers like *****, it seems like a case of some people not paying attention..- and303, on 12/30/2007, -1/+0So you're saying that before Apple releases a product, they make sure everyone knows about the flaws and ***** bureaucracy that has been plaguing many of the company's customers for a decade?
Oh ok. Maybe I wasn't paying attention to the Leopard commercial that said it'll destroy my wireless connectivity. Or the iPod commercial that says that you can't sync mp3s from 2 different computers. etc etc.
- and303, on 12/30/2007, -1/+0So you're saying that before Apple releases a product, they make sure everyone knows about the flaws and ***** bureaucracy that has been plaguing many of the company's customers for a decade?
- liuping, on 12/30/2007, -0/+2I just don't see how is Apple treating customers like *****. They are improving the product with each release, for free.
If your main goal is to run third party apps, the iPhone is not for you (at least until February)...- mkrygeri, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1@liuping
I have purchased 2 ipods(one is my girlfrinds) and have NEVER been able to get them to sync all music between 2 PCs.
Why? because 1/2 my music is mp3 from my CD collection. You see, apple will only double sync stuff if it was purchased from them.
I LOVE that I have to manually copy mp3's.
THAT is treating me like *****.
Cripple she ***** out of an awesome phone.
That's how they treat me like *****.
Pseudo-GPS? Apple's marketing has intentionally misled the masses into thinking this thing has GPS from the BEGINNING. 1/2 the people I talk to think it does.
THAT's why I use WinMo with a big ass memory card.
Apple makes simple toys for little girls and little boys.
- mkrygeri, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1@liuping
- protium, on 12/31/2007, -0/+1Don't talk ill of apple, the clueless fanboys will dig you down.
- rimantas, on 12/30/2007, -0/+4this company still has other 99,99% of customers who couldn't care less about third party apps on iPhone or be bothered about "non replaceable" batteries in iPod, etc., etc. etc. because iPhone works just fine for them as-is, and so does iPod which will most likely be replaced with a newer model long before it's battery will need replacement.
- Roamerick, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4Here's hoping Apple quietly tweaked the baseband to improve the iPhone's comparatively poor reception in low-signal areas (Google for "iPhone reception problems" and see what I mean). It's the one flaw in an otherwise superb gadget.
- Flyer00, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1Hoping so! Reception in my neighborhood blows.
- chicaneuk, on 12/30/2007, -2/+4Its not often I feel obliged to have a rant at the majority of people in a posting on Digg but.. are you complete fools? Apple will never just 'unlock' the phone or make it easily exploitable because the phone costs what it does, as they then expect people to take out a contract with it which they will then make additional money on. The iPhones that have gone up for sale in Europe WITHOUT a contract and unlocked have cost (I think) around 800 Euro's... thats over a thousand dollars.
I don't agree with the costs of the iPhone or the lengthy tie-in contracts which one must sign up to in order to own one.. in fact i'd like nothing more than an unlocked iPhone capable of being used on any network! But flag down a cab and take a trip to reality street guys.. Apple will never deliberately make it easy for you to unlock your iPhone.. they'd be making a loss on every unit, and their partners (AT&T, O2, etc) will dump them quicker than you can say Jail Break as they'd be losing money after stocking and selling the iPhone only for it to be used with a SIM from another network.- ABombbmoBA, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1Uh.... I can assure you that Apple is not taking a loss on the iPhone... no phone manufacturer loses money on a phone. They price it to make money. It is the carrier who takes a hit by giving a discount for your 2 year agreement. I am sure Apple is wishing they would have sold it unlocked instead, because I am sure they would sell TONS more to T-Mobile USA customers. But... they did need a carrier partnership to make visual voicemail possible. AT&T has to make changes to their network/voicemail system for it to work. (I think this is why Verizon turned Apple down. They are stubborn and egotistical about their network.)
- ChillyEli, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1EDIT: This was supposed to be to chicaneuk's comment.
Please fix your comment system Digg so I don't get so confused
- ChillyEli, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1EDIT: This was supposed to be to chicaneuk's comment.
- ChillyEli, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1ok chicaneuk, you have some points.
Now explain the iPod Touch. I used jailbreak on my iPod touch for custom apps. You cannot take a contract out on the iPod touch. Once you buy the iPod touch, the only way they will still make money off of you is accessories and iTunes purchases. And no, there isn't the same firmware for both iPod and iPhone users. I know this because I accidently tried to install the iPhone firmware to my iPod and it give me an error (error 5 to be exact).
So why not let iPod Touch users install their own software? We bought the device. We have played with the device. Now let us damn well use it as much as we want!
- ABombbmoBA, on 12/30/2007, -2/+1Uh.... I can assure you that Apple is not taking a loss on the iPhone... no phone manufacturer loses money on a phone. They price it to make money. It is the carrier who takes a hit by giving a discount for your 2 year agreement. I am sure Apple is wishing they would have sold it unlocked instead, because I am sure they would sell TONS more to T-Mobile USA customers. But... they did need a carrier partnership to make visual voicemail possible. AT&T has to make changes to their network/voicemail system for it to work. (I think this is why Verizon turned Apple down. They are stubborn and egotistical about their network.)
- hiro, on 12/30/2007, -5/+3So we're still about a year or two off being as functional as an MS phone. I'll consider one then.
- liuping, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1It may not have every "feature" of an MS Mobile phone, but the browser is far better and the over all experience is a joy. I just cannot say that for the MS Mobile and Blackberry phone I've had.
- liuping, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1It may not have every "feature" of an MS Mobile phone, but the browser is far better and the over all experience is a joy. I just cannot say that for the MS Mobile and Blackberry phone I've had.
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