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- ProjectGSX, on 07/23/2008, -2/+61Incredibly insightful article. Im a new iPhone owner and definitely appreciate the experience. This article explains a lot of the nagging issues with the app store.
- Volde, on 07/23/2008, -4/+31It's ironic, but I have severe buyer's remorse after upgrading to 2.0 because only after I upgraded did I realize 90% of the functionality that I loved about my touch came from jailbroken apps like Instinctiv Shuffle. Something about that doesn't seem right even if Apple has to make business decisions, I've always assumed that they were also champions of the end user (in this case my jailbroken apps)
- brodsky13, on 07/23/2008, -7/+28I think the argument being pushed on us by Apple is that a restricted SDK helps cut down on the number of bad apps out there. Of course, there's no magic way to prevent people from building crappy apps, but this SDK does make it hard (and sometimes impossible) to make many good ones. As a long time MS hater, it's strange to see Apple put something out there that is so oppressive and makes WindowsMobile look like an attractive developer platform.
- Ryan2845, on 07/23/2008, -2/+16It's not THAT surprising. Remember Apple is the company that limits what hardware you can install their OS on. They have a philosophy as a company of implementing limitations in order to provide better, less buggy products.
- Almadiel, on 07/23/2008, -0/+13First off, cydia is not the same thing as installer.app, its a different application and is better than installer. Hopefully they add the source editor soon, since that seems to be the last real obstacle to general adoption. Anyway, as a windows user, I have no other option if I want to make apps.
- JeffMaster, on 07/23/2008, -0/+11I'll be honest... I mean, some of the app store apps are cool... but come on! Touchpad Pro, Orb Live, Intelliscreen... etc. The BEST apps are still on the black market.
- digitalarcanum, on 07/23/2008, -3/+13Just as the article says, Apple is in this race for Apple and its shareholders, no one else, not even the end user. Once you come to realize that, the company isn't as nearly as awesome as everyone makes it out to be, huh? All bull ***** aside, I find it funny that the SDK adds more road blocks to unlocking the possibilities of "the jesus phone" as so many of you jobs-loving ***** seem to love to call it.
I'm no programmer, but as far as I know an SDK is supposed to provide a look into how things are done on a certain platform, not introduce another wall of complications or rules you have to work around to get your application to work.
I realize this. This is why I hate Apple. Their marketing brainwashes people, or at least makes a vocal minority that ruins the experience for everyone else and makes everyone else hate them altogether. So yes, I'll take my so-called "inferior" phones, hardware and operating systems, so long as it means I get to run them the way i want to. - skyshock1, on 07/24/2008, -3/+12Solution? ANDROID!!!
Hurry up and release the damn thing already Google! - hermes369, on 07/24/2008, -1/+8Give me a Terminal!!!
- lvlln, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7"I've always assumed that they were also champions of the end user"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - flarn2006, on 07/24/2008, -3/+9I just don't get why Apple doesn't make the iPhone a 100% open platform. Their computers are!
- AirRaven, on 07/23/2008, -1/+7...Or, in this case, preventing programmers creating certain classes of apps.
Notifications for new messages from a constantly-running messenger app, anyone? - Gee1004, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5Learn to use the filter to block out Apple News. People want to ***** read it, otherwise why is this website called DIGG!
- Gee1004, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5You cared enough to leave a comment
- BlueStarr, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5ProjectGSX.... you're absolutely right. But we live in a society of whiney little bitches. Check out bigdee973 for the best possible example of this. We're spoiled, greedy and ungrateful bunch of users. Sad but true.
- speakafreaka, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Browser Copy + Paste and Video Recorder were in 1.1.4.. havent upgraded to 2.0 yet because of it.
Apple wont have those in thier app store because theyre saving the features for the next iteration of the iphone. - inactive, on 07/23/2008, -4/+7Well, we know that you can be an arrogant prick without an app, just by your comment, so why bother waiting for Apple to write one?
Jealousy. I LOVE IT! - Cargo8, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3PWNFTWSDKFTL.
- UberNick, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4I can't wait to see what kind of stuff gets built at iPhoneDevCamp next week!
- ScottoGato, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4You realize that you're in the Apple Section of digg, right?
- javaroast, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3People have been asking for this for over a year not just 12 days. And as a total Apple fan boy you should be asking for a more open iPhone SDK as well.
- admdrew, on 07/23/2008, -3/+6Wait, what? It is? I have been living a lie as a .NET dev!
- takua108, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Cydia > Installer.app!
- Remmiz, on 07/24/2008, -2/+5Me too. We should probably move over to Mac right away before our jobs are taken out by iPhone SDK!
- fuelcarddotorg, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3That copy paste app they mentioned actually got me excited. Kind of pathetic that something as simple as that would get me excited because apple couldn't implement it in time. I am dying without it on my iphone
- Firespray1138, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Exactly, Summerboard and Customize are just awesome and all they do is change the damn theme. PocketTouch by Skylar is another one of my favorite apps along with MxTube.
- philodygmn, on 07/24/2008, -1/+4Just like with music store DRM, I think people forget that Apple cannot defy its partners, and could easily be sued for offering infringing apps. I think they should anyway, because such suits are ridiculous, but Apple remains too much of a lightningrod for industry ire.
- superkendall, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3Of course it's always going to be good to have Jailbreaking as an outlet for stuff that cannot be done through the App Store. It's like yin and yang...
- samimnot, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3Ouchhh...lol, that was actually a very clever comeback. Way to go, clak
- ZigVicious, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3you said "yall".
your credibility=gone. - logandurand, on 07/24/2008, -2/+4I think anyone who paid for the phone should expect to be able to run whatever they choose on their device regardless of what Apple feels about it.
- RobotBuddha, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2I upgraded for pandora, and have felt similar pangs. The app store has a fair amount of what I used, but there's still enough goodies to make me seriously consider the hastle of downgrading. One thing that really gets me though, is the no background process thing in regards to 'playing music'.
- skyshock1, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2I'd love to see a port of VLC available for iPhone
- redheadguy719, on 07/23/2008, -7/+9no one expected apple to totally free up the device to developers. I think it's given a lot of real companies the chance to develop high quality apps and games, yet the majority of jailbreak apps still trumped those in functionality.
At least WinPWN 2.0 is coming soon... - inactive, on 07/23/2008, -12/+14So what your saying is the i phone is no pancea that it does not live up to its hype, price and stupid contracts?
I though we all loved championing open source here and love bigging up the little guy that comes up with better products and cutting through the crap.
But as soon as someone dangles shiny shiny on front of ya, y'all lap it up. - RTFishUL, on 07/23/2008, -3/+5quaint little idiosyncrasies? hardly. If you only had any idea how many people have their phones and touches jailbroken.
- javaroast, on 07/24/2008, -2/+4You missed brodsky's point entirely. But keep up the high fiving I don't want to interrupt.
- sukimashita, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1You can see it here:
http://www.zodttd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2238 - skyshock1, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Fantastic! Now hopefully they'll get on porting it to SymbianOS as well.
- jamesmcm, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1A lot of these losses are annoying, yes but there has to be a compromise between usability and system stability.
For example, allowing apps to run in the background meant that poorly designed apps could fail to quit, etc. taking the iphone's memory and running down it's battery.
It's a similar problem with integrating functions into the OS.
The review process is a PITA but it is necessary (although could be done better) to prevent malware. - inactive, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1They forgot the quality control part.
- MAGZine, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Yes, you do spam. We all noticed.
- inactive, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1oh god, touchpad pro is ***** incredible
- Cargo8, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1^ Why do you need bossprefs? You can turn of 3g and wifi in the normal settings. and roaming edge, but edge doesnt eat up the battery that much anyway...
- Koadan, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1Apple doesn't sell content that comes across the web browser. They sell whats on the App Store and they provide servers for the distribution of free apps. Completely different.
- JeffMaster, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1oh totally, MxTube is awesome, if only it synced with the videos section within the ipod app...
- Atomic1fire, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1You see that Apple catagory in the digg tech section
you can block that you know,
the customize button is there for a reason
its really handy for blocking topics you don't like the news of or disagree with, you should consider trying it and keeping the capslock off - chall5, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Yep great article, discovered Intelliscreen from it which is exactly what I was looking for. Until that app together with Boss Prefs hits the Apple store I'll be sticking with 1.1.4
- rakous, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1That isn't irony, sorry but I am sick of people thinking ironic means something totally different than the actual meaning.
Irony - The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
/Grammar Nazi - homer420032003, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1you know, a lot of their current apps are buggy
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