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- nxtw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Is this some kind of stupid joke?
This is mostly irrelevant. Here's why:
1. Pod-safe music. This is music that's safe to play on podcasts. Many shows do not feature music at all, or feature only pod-cast music. Some shows, like .NET Rocks, only feature music by the show's creators.
2. The RIAA does not own the copyright to flamboyant DJs, advertisments, or all music.
3. I would imagine that some of the podcasts with music in them, like iTunes New Music Tuesdays, and Interscope Rock Podcast, are licensed. - Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6not a very effective argument. The most popular podcasts (TWIT, Daily Source Code, Diggnation) don't feature any kind of licensed music, therefore the RIAA can't interfere. This "effort" will only affect a lot of small-time podcasts that play licensed music on their podcasts.
- HumanIMDB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am sure there are podcasts out there with copyrighted material in them that isn't licensed, but how popular are they? If you want to download a song, you aren't going to download an entire podcast for it, you are just going to fire up LimeWire or whatever you use and download the song.
Granted, podcasting could expose people to music they might not have gone out and found for themselves, but if this is one of the reasons the RIAA is going after podcasters, then it is just another example of the RIAA's short-sightedness.
The lumbering giants of industry are going to eventually come around to the new world economy but I think they will quickly discover that they've missed the boat.
iTunes is the only service that is really successful and it is losing money as a loss leader for Apple's iPods. It is definitely too late for the record industry to put the genie back in the bottle, and it is probably too late to get their three wishes.
The movie and television industries have a better opportunity to capitalize on the Internet, as it is only recently that highspeed Internet access has become popular with consumers. I believe the first commercial service that uses BitTorrent to distribute pay-per-view movies and TV programs will make a fortune. - acemilo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@goat - then you are missing out on a revolution. I have stopped listening to commercial radio since I started listening to podcasts.
@RIAA - ***** off.
The riaa is threatened for the first time in its existance by podcasting. I believe there is a rule or law that says if you aren't selling the music then you can play under like 15 seconds of a song legally, which is what Adam Curry does when he plays hit tests. Also, there is a license you can buy for like 800 bucks a year or something that allows you more lienency (sp). Podcasting will not die, it is the future of audio, much like internet tv is the future of video. When the riaa finally catches on that we don't need them and that we keep them alive they will learn, but hopefully they come crashing down long before that. The riaa, much like 95% of the fcc's duties are not necessary and evil (the fcc does do some good like regulating radio frequencies) and need to be disbanded in their current state. Long live podcasting. - c367dotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Background music isn't the problem, its the kids who want to call themselves some kind of DJ for using cracked software to mix 10 or so of their favorite songs together for their "Ultimate Party Music Podcast"
I run audiofeeds.org and i get tons of submissions every day or podcasts that just mix 10 or so copyrighted songs together and try to call it legal because it's not the original work. No, it's 10 original works put back to back. Point is, it's illegal to provide downloadable copyrighted music without permission. - Drum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Podcasting does not require music to be a podcast, so I think it unlikely that the RIAA will kill podcasting. People that want to safely use music backgrounds can just find non-copyrighted, copyleft, or stuff put under the creative commons license system to use.
- Massif, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Doesn't affect me in the slightest. The podcasts I listen to are all talk. I would never listen to a podcast with music in it. I would just listen to music.
- next, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2jkfan87: I suppose so. I'd say it's the future of the radio show, but not the future of audio as a whole. ;)
I listen to 12 different podcasts at present, and aside from the iTunes New Music Tuesday podcast, none of them have a focus on music. I like to have control of my music, which is why I can't really stand commercial radio or streaming radio (although I make an exception for DI.fm). The same would apply to podcasts, even if I can skip through them. I own an iPod to listen to -my- music, not low-quality files with a selection of someone else's music.
Long live podcasting! - simjohmarts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Time to support podsafe music and create OUR OWN music industry.
- cessax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whoever wants to use music in their podcasts and doesn't make their own music can use mine. I have a VAULT of instrumentals that I have produced myself, so screw the RIAA for tryin to crack down the podcast nation - they are only doing it to prevent radio from loosing its buzz, which its lost since television was invented. Down with the RIAA and their bullyish ways, and up with free-uncopywritten-music that anyone can usein their podcasts - let's start a website dedicated to allowing the use of original, free, music to podcasters so the RIAA can't get on their backs - I have only 5 songs to preview but I have over 200 made. Visit my site for details on gettin free music: http://high-flow.com/collindavis
- Anth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea, the MacCast has a song at the end of each one, but I'd assume he gets the permission of the band and their label (if any) to promote their music. Other stuff like digg's podcast wont be harmed since there is no music.
More chicken little crap on digg. Go figure. - MoWorse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think the RIAA has it's hands full now. To listen to thousands of podcasts each week to determine if one of their songs is being played is total crap...
All the podcasts that I digg have some type of music a snippet here and an snippet there if I want more I agree with HumanIMDB ... download the song and rip to your player. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 Yeah man, I remember when the corporations cracked down on downloadable music, movies and applications. Oh, wait, brb, my Adobe Illustrator CS download has just completed...
- nickzee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I listen to many small DJs that play their personal mixes...whic do include copyrighted material...
There is a lot of podcasts out there and all of them don't feature people rambling about their cats - NINJ4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What a ***** joke. RIAA needs to focus their effort inward and make the music not suck so bad that people download it. What a ***** joke...
- nxtw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can't believe this made the front page.
- mentor972, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why don't they get rid of FM radio? You can rip songs from there too... oh and MTV. Let's stop them from playing music too..... oh wait... they don't play music.
- AJGrossman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My question is what is his source re the RIAA - have they made a public comment re podcasts? Given the fact that the majority of popular podcasts don't make use of unlicensed music (TWIT, Slice of Sci-Fi, MacCast, Inside Mac Radio, Diggnation, etc.), it begs the question of why the RIAA would allocate resources in this area
- tayq1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the RIAA is going to meet their match. pod Podcasters are not going to role over like file sharers
- oxigen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I stopped listening to commercial radio years ago, because it sucks, not because podcasting took me away." Amen.
And this is simply rediculous. I sure as hell am not doing anything illegal and neither is apple. - spade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1? why does podcasting = music listening?
- mentor972, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NAT music in the background doesn't have to be paid for. Look it up.
- junkfood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Relatively few people listen to podcasts, few podcasts contain music, even fewer contain copyrighted music, relatively few people even know how to edit the songs out of podcasts anyway ... more
- roeboedog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0so if i am talking on the phone and their is music in the background i just happen to get paid for the call, will they be knocking on my door. this is crap. i hate them.
- nickzee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i don't think the movie and television industries can capitalize on the current state of the Internet...Speeds still need to be higher and the download cost (on the price of the product) will make many people think twice and walk to their nearest blockbuster with restocking fees
- FlatLine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0talk pod-casting is and will be fine.
- deadlychicken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The main reason this could succeed is the fact that many podcasters don't have the money to fight the RIAA....
- dyefade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The RIAA can't sue people forever, their day is going to come. It kinda makes me wanna listen to Dinosaurs Will Die by NOFX" -AdamCo
That's the first thing I think of whenever I hear something about the RIAA. Note that diggnation use nofx for their intro music, not like they're going to care about any of this. - AdamCo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The RIAA can't sue people forever, their day is going to come. It kinda makes me wanna listen to Dinosaurs Will Die by NOFX
- MSolarez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"From my cold dead hands!" Let my Podcasts be! I'm not like'n the RIAA too much...
- avocade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If RIAA tries to regulate podcasting in the same way FCC is vowing congress trying to regulate blogs (and perhaps the internet as well, eventually) it will dig its own grave. The public tolerance with these semi-government, semi-corporate entities is very near the boiling-point.
- RichMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't see anything wrong with playing copyrighted music during your podcast. Do you think people would go through the trouble of ripping the music portion of your podcast? Hell no, they'll either buy it or pirate it off the net. So, with that in mind. I would think that playing a sample of somebody's music is a form of free advertisment.
- LloydDetroit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Tell that to the Pod Father !! (Adam Curry) I think pod casting is the next big thing. I listen to many new pod and the pod safe music network and have heard many great new bands and best of all no RIAA no FCC
- sarasweet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ASCAP has a-okayed podcasting, I thought that's what Adam Curry told me anyway. Am I wrong?
What is the deal with RIAA anyway?? Quit threatening your customers. NOT COOL. - mrblogadise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0MOST podcasts have no music (or self produced music) in them, so you're way off base.
- Anticitizen1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ok, everyone sing along!
oooh!
The RIAA is going to hell when they die!
the RIAA is going to hell when they die!
the RIAA is going to hell when they die! - metamorphosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Podcasting won't become a rarity it will become the mainstream, and when it becomes the mainstream what will the record industry do?
if they want exposure they will have to have the mainstream play their music. - castufari, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Screw the RIAA. Who is going to rip a song from a podcast? If they have the skills to do that then they have the skills to download the song FROM A BETTER SOURCE. What are most podcasts recorded in? 64 bit mono? Gee, that is a great source.
YML/Trash Talk, TWIT, Morning Coffee Notes, MacCast and DIGG are what I'm listening to. Podcasts have made listening to non music much more enjoyable.
/loves 'em for his 2+ hour drive to remote jobsites - ajb2015, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'd like to see Apple grow some fruit and stand up to these bastards.
Podcasting has been a pretty big thing for Apple. Being rulers of the online music business, they should throw their weight around a bit. - MrAndrews, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They've kinda glossed over one of the bigger issues of the podcasting music debate... there are some in the music world that think that the standard licensing fees (that webcasters or radio stations already pay) won't cover you with podcasts since they're technically downloads rather than transient streams. So you could pay $1000/year to one licensing org only to find yourself in the crosshairs of another group, and THEY'LL tack on another $1500 to your bill. So don't fear the RIAA necessarily, fear their colleagues.
And we're not talking about destroying all podcasts here, we're talking about knocking the wind out of the movement's sails. Right now semi-casual podcasts are thriving, and somewhere in that mix, fantastic new ideas will emerge. If lawsuits start flying, and hit the right class of people, no one in their right mind will give it a try, because the fear of a lawsuit you can't afford to fight will easily outweigh the novelty of it. It'll be the end of podcasting as a movement, leaving it as a profession to the dedicated or wealthy. - mrgone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The same thing happened with shoutcasting a few years back, and it really did change things quite a bit, sadly enough. I hate these ***** vampires
- Play, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There's a reason for podsafe music. We don't need ***** RIAA music. If they want any exposure on podcasts, they'll have to convert to podsafe music. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!! :D
- mpeters13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0nxtw-- " The RIAA does not own the copyright to flamboyant DJs, advertisments, or all music."
i love you. this was ***** hilarious. - Essefgy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Eff the RIAA. The most fun podcasts are the audio diary ones. People who stuff their podcasts with songs are just wasting time.
- WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What this is saying is that there are very few original podcasters out there that can't do their shows without someone else's music. Sad.
- mrkamil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0yeah, i don't like the RIAA but podcasting is kinda lame.
- sarasweet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0None of my favorite podcasts play RIAA licensed music, therefore I am completely unconcerned with this "article".
Oh, and I stopped listening to commercial radio years ago, because it sucks, not because podcasting took me away. - remo2012, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Some of the best music on a podcast is
http://returnofwhatever.blogspot.com/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"@goat - then you are missing out on a revolution. I have stopped listening to commercial radio since I started listening to podcasts."
yea i dont have an mp3 player so icant listen to it in my car. and i listen to doug banks in the morning. i dont want to hear people talk about "tech" ***** on the radio i want to listen to
a. Rap
or
b. morning radio shows - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0and what is downloading mp3's revolutionizing? mp3s have been around forever. i guess its a "revolution" because someone thought about adding "pod", part of ipod, which would instantly make it a hit which it, and "cast" together which SOMEHOW invited people to record themselves talking about *****. dont ask me how that happened and why people care and would want to listen, but i guess the Pod part had something to do with it.
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