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- Pliep, on 08/26/2008, -11/+94Yeah right, as if your going to work "arms-stretched" all day touching your screen. Apple isn't insane, fanboys are. I can see a keyboard featuring a touch screen to work with, but a touchscreen inside your main display is idiotic.
- supermanred, on 08/26/2008, -28/+79I want one. And many others do too. I want a big iPhone that ISN'T A COFFEE TABLE AND WEIGHS 400 POUNDS AND COSTS 15,000 DOLLARS...
Yes, I'm speaking to you Microsoft. Bad Microsoft. - TheFinaleofSeem, on 08/26/2008, -0/+42Try using a touch screen for your primary input for about a half hour. Now tell me how tired your arm is. Touchscreens are good for niche products and small handheld devices that can easily be held at a comfortable position. A full-blown touchscreen is utterly impractical for anything longer than a few minutes. It's good for a kiosk and perhaps some very specific jobs, but not for general use. Not even close.
- cadmiumpaint, on 08/26/2008, -3/+37its not odd at all if you're a pro user. Touchscreen has no place in my workflow. None the adobe CS programs that i use on a daily basis have any use for them. I don't know any studio that would need this except for MAYBE setting up an interactive display in their front lobby.
between keyboard commands and my tablet i'm all set thanks. - thePTS, on 08/26/2008, -4/+34"I think it is odd how many "tech professionals" are negative towards the Touchscreen predictions. It seems to be the obvious advancement in input to work along with your mouse and keybaord."
1) it's slow, unprecise and responseless. buttons give an instant, often slight feel/sound-response and allow you to work faster and more relaxed.
2) since all humans have oil and fat in their skin as their natural skin lotion, the concept of touching (ie. smearing) what you are looking at, is a bad idea.
Sorry, it's never going to be good. - HookmasterCH47, on 08/26/2008, -2/+30I only want it if I can be like Tom Cruise from Minority Report. Oh and predict people's murders. I hear that's coming in Snow Leopard.
- ericdano, on 08/26/2008, -5/+27No, they should not. Who wants freaking smudges on their 30" screen? Not me.
I'd be in favor of some sort of touch pad that would show where your fingers are on the screen.......or something. Not actually touching it. Just not practical at all. - RadiatedAnt, on 08/26/2008, -0/+22businesses and not consumers that's who ohh and the filthy rich geeks
Imagine if you could hook up your phone in the lobby or even your nightstand next to your bed at a hotel. - Wuss, on 08/26/2008, -2/+21Why Apple should release a touch-screen Mac:
cuz it'll sell?
Apple could make a macbook that doubles as a play-doh factory, as long as it's encased in aluminum and less then 1" thick, and has a commercial of a big caucasian hand doing ***** with the macbook-playdoh factory with some obscure indie music playing in the background, people will buy that ***** up. - FredFredrickson, on 08/26/2008, -3/+17I'm not trolling here, but seriously - why would you want a touch-screen on your computer? What would you use it for that you can't do as easily (if not easier) than with your mouse?
- Daniel591992, on 08/26/2008, -0/+13It's not really aimed for the average person
- FredFredrickson, on 08/26/2008, -0/+12I'm a designer, and I can think of nothing more horrible than trying to work on precise measurements using a touch screen.
- Urkel, on 08/26/2008, -1/+13Jeez, what babies these anti-MS people can be. The product was never meant to be a "students portable table" so why act so hostile? This notion that only Apple should be involved in advancing technological boundries is silly. We are consumers and we should be happy that there's more than one company trying new things.
- YourMaster, on 08/26/2008, -2/+13They can be pretty good for carry-around tablets. You just have to get used to the idea of laying the screen flat on a table or desk. Then it's no more tiring than using a mouse. It's kind of like how people have written on paper for a gazillion years, lifting it up a bit to read it sometimes but usually interacting with it laying flat.
If you continue to have monitors perpendicular to surfaces, then yes, your arms will get exhausted. - cadmiumpaint, on 08/26/2008, -0/+9the Cintiq is much different than what they'd release as a touch screen.
not everyone who uses pro apps needs a drawing type motion. - Kazimieras, on 08/26/2008, -0/+8Uh a bunch of hotels in the states have bought the Surface.
http://www.hotelmotel.com/hotelmotel/article/artic ... - rizla420, on 08/26/2008, -1/+9I jsut dont get the use of a touchscreen monitor.. someone who wants this tell me really what you'd use it for? To flip through your photo album? WHy couldnt you just have a multi input surface like touch pad that you can do flicks and pulls with to accomplish the same effect?
BTW, i have an iphone and smudges do suck. It sort of works for a phone. SORTA, i really wanted a damn qwerty for this instead of the touch screen for txt messaging. The fact that you cant flip to landscape is a major pain, get used to fat fingering like crazy. - kraetos, on 08/26/2008, -7/+14A touch-screen Mac would be incredible, AS LONG AS it *supplements* a keyboard and mouse, and doesn't replace them. Some simple tasks are better suited for a touchscreen, but most tasks are still more efficient with a mouse and keyboard.
And obviously, a touchscreen laptop/tablet is a lot more useful than a touchscreen desktop Mac. - tnoy, on 08/26/2008, -1/+8Surface isn't being marketed as a consumer device.
If you think its being marketed to you, you're an idiot. - benstl, on 08/26/2008, -0/+7"I'd be in favor of some sort of touch pad that would show where your fingers are on the screen.......or something. Not actually touching it. Just not practical at all." ~ericdano
It's called a Mouse... - dcmjzero, on 08/26/2008, -1/+8You obviously have never used a pen-based tablet. It addresses all of your concerns. And if you are using a touchscreen that is both active and passive (can use the pen and fingers) like on Dell's tablet, you can have the best of both worlds.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 08/26/2008, -1/+8Funny, how could Powerbook displays just start dying after only 12 months of usage? Powerbooks haven't been made for several years.
Oh, you mean Macbook Pros...and you're probably referring instead to the 8600M chips that Nvidia has admitted they ***** up on. - scottnash, on 08/26/2008, -1/+8Somebody list some examples of why a touch screen monitor on a computer is a good idea. I just don't get it.
- firebaugh, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7Why Apple should release a touch-screen Mac.
Because everyone loves fingerprints on their monitor. - EntropyFan, on 08/26/2008, -6/+12You haven't even seen Surface, have you?
Put you iPhone on top of another iPhone. Download the info off of it. Can't? Imagine that.
Or write software (if Apple will allow you) to do what photoshop does for your iPhone. Can't? ***** imagine that.
Surface is designed as a full computer, customizable for touch centric apps, but to be used in situations where a full computer is needed.
Are you so ***** stupid you can't tell the difference between a stripped down, low feature phone OS and a real computer? - oriondr, on 08/26/2008, -0/+6Eh... HP already has a touch screen Laptop, what is this guy smoking?
Unless he's saying HP shouldn't build a touchscreen apple, it is pretty obvious that they shouldn't. - inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+6iDough FTW!
- ZenMojo, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7Why does everyone assume that Apple is at the threshold of all technological advancement?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2079393,00.as ...
Note the date of the review: January 1st, 2007. That's right. There's been a well-reviewed touch-screen PC on the market from a leader in the personal computer market at a more than affordable price for almost two years and people are whining about Apple not bringing them the next step in technology.
Why doesn't Apple give you a touch-screen PC? Probably because HP has the patent.
Seriously, why are Apple fanboys constantly waiting for Apple to invent stuff? Apple's rarely been at the forefront of ANY technology EVER. They weren't the first touch-sensitive smart phone, nor were they the inventor of the mouse, nor were they the inventor of the MP3 player. They just gave them sexy packaging and sold Apple fandom as a lifestyle while forcing proprietary hardware on you to get their software.
Hell, they're constantly making new touch-screen PCs. I was playing around with one at Disney's Innovention a couple of weeks back and it works beautifully. - yetAnotherCroc, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7As a Touchscreen user and designer I have to say that the touchscreen is underestimated. My tablet PC has a touchscreen as well as an integrated Wacom Tablet in the monitor. You have no Idea how much easier it is to use. When at regular computers I find myself repressing the urge to change windows by tapping the screen etc. And doing any type of explorative graphical work with a mouse is a pain in comparison to the wacom tablet.
However I still use the physical keyboard for typing etc. But for regular rurfing nothing beats folding the screen into tablet mode and sitting on my couch with it on my lap or resting on my arm. A much more natural way to read large chunks of text etc. (In portrait mode)
So as long as they are smart enough to allow you to tilt the screen a lot or even lay it down flat or almost flat it will be great. It might even turn out to be the nexty revolution in UI's (They badly need to redo some aspects of todays UI's to acommodate tablets.) - ArchiTech, on 08/26/2008, -4/+10I work in Architecture and build 3D models. A keyboard and mouse is VERY limiting. There's times when I wish I could just use my hands to stretch a solid with multiple fingers, rotate, quickly select different tools (yes I use hotkeys, but even those are limiting).
That being said, it is also important to note that multi-touch functionality isn't Apple's problem, they've figured it out already...
It's Adobe, AutoDesk, ArchiCAD and all the other industry standards problem on how to build software that utilizes the technology in an efficient and instictual manner.
Might be a decade from now before it's standard. - SouthsideIrish, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7Heck, I am a fanboi, and I can think of nothing more horrible than this. A touch screen laptop, yes; but not a cinema display.
- majortom1981, on 08/26/2008, -0/+6Does the article writer know that multitouch pcs and laptops exist already from other venders like dell? Dell released a multitouch bios update for its lattitude tablet and hp has a second or thir dgen touchscreen pc already. So in this cas eunless its compeltely diff it wont be a game changer.
- tb0n3r, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7I don't know about you, but I can type much faster using a keyboard with tactile response than I can by staring at my fingers, like some damned monkey, to make sure that my fingers are in the right place to type. Sometimes, the simplest solution really is best.
- tb0n3r, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7If there's anything Apple's Cinema Displays need, it's more Finger Goobers obstructing the view! Yay!
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5HP already has a line of touch screen home computers. They are not exactly lighting the world on fire... I think they are intended to replace the television in the kitchen and be a television, post-it-note, recipe book sort of thing. Kinda pricy for that application though IMO. Oh, and they are the failed all in one form factor as well...
- BrendanSheehan, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5You need to be a Sceintologist to do that though ;)
- yournamehere, on 08/26/2008, -1/+6Umm, this is already in motion and it's not apple that's leading the way:
http://conceptpop.com/keyboardless-laptop-at-a-low ... - strangewill, on 08/26/2008, -1/+6@Archi:
It would work nice in a 3D environment, however you're dealing with a 2D screen, it will only frustrate you more and be an extreme pain in the ass to try to use your fingers to manipulate something across a screen. - inactive, on 08/26/2008, -3/+8Battery life 8 minutes.
- FredFredrickson, on 08/26/2008, -3/+8You speak of Surface as if the product has been available to consumer for years.
- linagee, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5When can we expect this apple-playdoh factory to be released?
- zydeco, on 08/26/2008, -1/+6The optical mouse was invented at HP. Everyone like Microsoft and Apple are licensing it.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5combine with voice navigation / dictation.
didn't you see iron man? - diggerbez, on 08/26/2008, -2/+7They should make it make phone calls too. And call it "iphone Big"
- gunderoo, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5a touch screen for graphic artists is like a dream come true, especially on notebooks. digital illustration would be a hundred times easier. sure there's wacom tablets and other tools, but i long for the day where i can fold my macbook in half, fire up photoshop and just draw and paint to my heart's content. i wouldn't even have to rinse off my paint brush when i'm done!
- MrChunks, on 08/26/2008, -3/+8You describe yourself as a "fanboy" and then call Mac a company?
What kind of fanboy are you? You're no fanboy! Get out.. there's the door ------------------> - Picer, on 08/26/2008, -1/+6Your right on, touch screens would be a useless (but pricey) novelty.
- ionblue, on 08/26/2008, -3/+8I dunno about you but I would love to be able to draw right on the screen without having to get a Cintiq.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -2/+6Hey- Have you seen any PC tablets around? There are many of them.
Now STFU ya mactard! - Ratm22, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4I want to have a touch screen for my media PC so when DJing at a party anyone can change the music, just by touching the screen. No room for a keyboard and mouse.
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