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- Jammypac, on 10/11/2007, -8/+60Wow - pretty dang favorable. Glad to see that the keyboard is fine after a learning curve and that the camera took "excellent pictures".
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+45David Pogue's review is way better.
- CannedCorn, on 10/11/2007, -19/+56Walt Mossberg is an idiot. Why? He cannot see why Apple chose AT&T for their service. Obviously in the United States the service is not as good as verizon, however, think about it another way. When creating a phone with global market possibility, why would you EVER make it a Verizon / Sprint compatible phone, (aka non GSM), which is only used in the US. GSM is the standard EVERYWHERE, obviously this was the right choice for Apple, I could not have seen it going any other way.
Secondly, EDGE is used because of the fact that these chipsets that provide quad band EDGE are mature and can consume much less power than their 3G counterparts which have not been as refined at the moment. Additionally, 3G data does not make that much of a difference unless tethering to a more powerful device because the processors in these phones simply cannot take advantage of this speed yet. I have owned a blackjack and the render time in 3G areas is the same as when I'm in edge using the phone. Furthermore, EDGE is more than adequate when you are not in wifi areas, I have owned and used many blackberrys and smartphones and yes, EDGE is not the best, but it gets the job done plenty fast while using a phone. Idiots. - informality, on 10/11/2007, -6/+42Just look at the image of the iPhone next to its competitors. You can see just what Apple hath wrought.
There is simply no competition. - Zanick, on 10/11/2007, -10/+39Sucks that you can't use songs as ringtones.
- ProAm500, on 10/11/2007, -6/+34Honestly, the fact that the Iphone doesnt record video is inexcusable......
- epyon180, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25Great, the positives about the phone are pretty much anything that apple did themselves, but the negatives are all the AT&T stuff. God it's gonna hurt to give money to AT&T.
- vh1`, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20"There's no instant messaging, only standard text messaging"
wouldn't something like meebo.com work? - Ostizzle, on 10/11/2007, -9/+22Maybe it's just me but a few of these negative points sound like things that could really become a pain in the ass after the "shiny new thing!" phase wears off.
- Typhoon2009, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15I'll wait for iPhone 2. Now with 3G, more drive space, swappable SIM cards, more battery life, video recording, and an LED screen. For $100 less than the models coming out Friday.
edit: And no enslavement to AT&T. - uncleboogie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15No voice dial? This is such a simple feature. With so many new cars having BT hands free calling, you will have to get the iPhone out punch up the number? Just give me the same device minus the phone.
- consonance, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14... Because Walt Mossberg is Apple's most ardent critic.
- PhillyMJS, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Knowing Verizon, they probably wanted to disable half the iPhone's advertised features and then sell them back to subscribers for more fees, like when they crippled the Bluetooth on a couple phones a year or two ago and got slapped with a class action suit for it. Apple probably told them to go piss up a rope.
- tinygibbles, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11no, the sim tray is on the top. it pops out with a paperclip. however, you have to put in a cingular sim since it's locked to cingular.
- yeahright, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13You seem to forget the earlier articles stating that Verizon (CDMA) was originally offered the chance to have the iPhone exclusively, but passed on it.
- CraigJ, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11yes.
- jragon, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15Yeah, I assumed the keyboard was going to be the main blemish on an otherwise pretty great product. Now it looks like AT&T is the blemish.
Apple wins. - darny, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11a great review of a seemingly great product, first hints that it is living up to the hype. now why is the damn stock price tanking??!!??
- celcho, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11and they look like *****, and work like *****. congrats, and enjoy our piece of ***** windows mobile device.
- olddirtycr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8The camera is sub par in anything but amazing lighting situations
- celcho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7it's nice to have, though, and how hard is it to implement since most all have the capability.
- zeromind, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Honestly, all cellphone cameras suck and video is even worse. Crayon drawings by my seven year old are more entertaining than video from a phone.
- bradleyland, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I'm sorry, but your claim that load times on EDGE and 3G networks are the same because of a processor bottleneck is a plain old lie. I also have a Blackjack, and I travel weekly between EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA enabled areas of South Florida. Every data feature of my phone is made better by 3G, not just tethering. Example: Live Maps fills in almost instantly when scrolling on a 3G network. EDGE takes 3-5 times as long depending upon my connection strength.
IE for SmartPhone plain sucks though, so your point is partially supported, but the iPhone has a full-blown web browser. Why not a full blown wireless connection? Hopping from WiFi AP to WiFi AP just plain sucks. - keylargodave, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I've owned phones that can record video for two years now (Motorola V551 and Samsung Blackjack) and I've taken video exactly once. And the video sucked.
- dclowd9901, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6AT&T's own ringtone sales...
- Jerryskid02, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Finally someone talking about the iPhone that isn't totally biased to one side or the other (Apple hater/lover). A decent review and what I guess I expected it to be. It's the first generation of a new electronic device which means there will be bugs/things it need to improve on like any other first generation electronic device. But like he said, I think it will raise the bar and push all major companies along in development. Once the price drops in about 25 years and the bugs/upgrades are worked out, I might seriously think about getting one.
- DerTeufel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I hate to break it to you but I think iPhone 2 will be out LONG before Apple's 5 year exclusive contract ends with AT&T.
- JoeDiggsIt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Here is your linkitywink - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/technology/circuits/27pogue.html?ref=technology
I recommend watching the video - dvsbastard, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I MMS videos fairly often... Although video recording on a phone isn't exactly a prime function, in this day and age missing such a feature is plain stupid...
- randomgeek, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6People are funny.
"It doesn't include the KITCHEN SINK? WTF NO WAI! That does it, I was going to buy one but now.."
Which of course really means:
"OMG it's so pretty, but so expensive. I wish I could have one. :( "
Apple envy has been around for a long time, which is why people are still harping on prices and single mouse buttons even though every Mac user rolls their eyes and dispels the myths every time they hear them. Get over yourself with the "It lacks feature x, omg no!" and realize it's a First Gen product. How many Blackberries have there been? How about Treos? Were the first ones as good as the current ones? Thank you. You can stfu now. - celcho, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6i'm going to buy an iphone, but the reviews indicate that pages render much faster on wifi, which means THIS processor is capable of rendering pages faster when a faster connection is available.
- azzageddi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8I'm actually glad to be living overseas for this. By the time it arrives in Japan, the iPhone will have had all the bugs shaken out of it, and a lot of missing features will have been added. Always wait a year or two before buying new tech.
- randomgeek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The RIAA would ***** their pants if you could do that.
- eatrains, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5RIAA
- celcho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5i bet they'll add this feature, although i can't imagine why they didn't have this out of the gate. i mean it is annoying and i'm sure apple will have some good ringtones, but still it's such an easy feature to implement, why wouldn't they do it?
- DazWiLLiE, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6http://www.nytimes.com/ref/business/20070627_POGUE_GRAPHIC.html (click on SIM Card Slot) Now, shut up already
- JoeDiggsIt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Because of all you bastards who are screaming "THe iPhone SUCKS!!!!11!" at the top of your virtual lungs. If you don't want people to pre-judge the iPhone as amazing then dont pre-judge it as crappy.
sry, Darny. that was a little too loud. - celcho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4i agree this is a stupid feature for it to be missing.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6NYtimes review of the iPhone says:
"Then there’s the Internet problem. When you’re in a Wi-Fi hot spot, going online is fast and satisfying.
But otherwise, you have to use AT&T’s ancient EDGE cellular network, which is excruciatingly slow. The New York Times’s home page takes 55 seconds to appear; Amazon.com, 100 seconds; Yahoo. two minutes. You almost ache for a dial-up modem."
IT TOOK 55 SECONDS TO OPEN NYTIMES.COM?! AND YAHOO AT 120 SECONDS?! WTF!
SO IT WOULD TOOK, SAY FOREVER TO VIEW A YOUTUBE CLIP ON YOUR IPHONE!
IT WOULD ALSO TOOK FOREVER JUST TO VIEW GOOGLE MAPS! - dvsbastard, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Ummm... If your phone does not support voice dialing, there is nothing that a bluetooth interface will do to help it...
- c5kirk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6I can relate... Love my Macs and was really looking forward to the iPhone but just too many shortcomings for me to put down my money.
- zeromind, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Sorry but that is a silly thing to say. I'm sure all these reviewers have plenty of phones. They get paid for their reputation at reviewing. They are not going to sell their reputation in order to play with an iPhone for a couple weeks. They gave honest and balanced criticism. Not everything was good and not everything was bad. On the whole they like it. For version 1.0 of a brand new product, I would say that is pretty good. Microsoft usually takes version 3.0 or better before it is usable.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4the guy says the keyboard is "OKAY", i wouldnt call that favorable. its an apple stock owners way of saying, its not very good.
- smartydebater, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Wow, all this hype and it turns out there actually are flaws with the iphone!
But the genius part of apple's model for the iphone is that they will be able to send out free software updates to out-of-date phones. Since the iphone's features are more software based than other smart phones, the iphone has a definite edge, and Apple is forcing other companies to follow suit.
To be honest I don't care about the iphone "revolution". But what I do care about is what's coming after the iphone. Apple is forcing other companies to be innovative and eventually all the phones on the market will be truly amazing and packed full of cutting edge technology like the iphone. - tinygibbles, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It must use OWA like blackberry webclient. If my email checks every 5 minutes do i really care about push? me no.
- chile1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5can you?
- DPimp1262, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4If you have any doubt that the sim card can be removed just look at pogue's review. There's an interactive part where he explains all the parts and one of those is the sim card slot at the top of the phone.
- mickt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/technology/circuits/27pogue.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=slogin
- JustinPM, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Because it's $500. For a phone. That uses AT&T. And STILL has a contract.
- bertram, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3http://www.aim.com/aimexpress.adp
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