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- Skootles, on 12/03/2007, -19/+133So, the dock was supposed to give me a 503 error?
- macjunkie1, on 12/03/2007, -5/+79That would make stacks more useful!
- totorototoro, on 12/03/2007, -3/+59Jobs demoed that actually early on-he grabbed a bunch of files off the desktop and made a temporary stack just by drag-drop. Not sure why it got killed.
- Falldog, on 12/03/2007, -10/+59What does it look like now?
/actually just ordered his first Mac... - zweben, on 12/03/2007, -3/+51Currently the only way you can make a stack is to drag an existing folder into the dock, on the right side next to the trash can. The stack shows the contents of the folder. It looks the same, but lacks most of the functionality that made the original implementation useful.
Also, congrats, hope you like the Mac. - jubilee123, on 12/03/2007, -13/+55this hit the front page not two minutes ago and it's down. piece of *****
- Shade00a00, on 12/03/2007, -2/+44So, during the beta stages of Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) there were some key features that Apple decided to add to the new OS, and advertise publicly on their website in order to create buzz and get people excited about the new OS.
One of these features was what Apple calls “Stacks” in the new 3D glassy looking Dock area. Some people love the new dock, and the way the stacks work on the dock, some don’t. This article has nothing to do with either side.
Instead I’m going to show everyone the way it was “supposed” to be.
This is not a hack, this Dock was taken from one of the Leopard beta installations that was seeded to developers and beta testers before the official release. Up until the final release of Leopard, this part of the feature was not only present in the beta versions, but was also included in the description of the new Dock features on Apple’s website.
In fact, this capability still seems to be present in the current/final release code, at least it still has all the descriptions and settings intact. How to enable the feature? I’m not sure, maybe someone can figure that part out for us. All I know is that the feature is really cool, and useful and I can’t for the life of me figure out why it was ever removed or disabled.
If anyone wants to take a swing at finding out how to get this functionality back, I can tell you what I know about it.
First off, it uses the data type of “filestack-tile”. I came across this the other day when I saw someone posting about the “spacer-tile” to make blank spacers between dock icons.
I’ve compared the plist from the old Dock and the new/current Dock and see no differences at all, so I’m assuming the functionality is a hidden option that was on by default in the old Dock, but off by default in the new one. Or simply is disabled completely.
In the meantime, I’ll be kicking Apple in the shins and hoping they’ll give us this option back.
There was also a major change in the way the folders on the right side of the dock behave, I’ll post a video of that later.
http://kuragari.com.nyud.net:8090/wp-content/uploa ... ... someone mirror this - zweben, on 12/04/2007, -0/+40The original implementation allowed you to select some applications (and also documents, I believe) that weren't grouped together in the Finder, and make them into their own stack. Application stacks would stay with the rest of the applications on the left side of the dock.
Currently, the only way to make a stack is to drag an existing folder into the dock, on the right side of the dock separate from the applications. There is no way to make a group of files or applications that is not already grouped in a folder in the Finder.
Say you wanted to make an Adobe stack. The old way would allow you to select the Adobe apps, drag them to the dock and name the stack. The current way, you would have to make a folder inside your applications folder with aliases of the Adobe applications in it to get the same result, although you get the annoying alias icons in your dock if you do that, and you also have the pointless alias folder cluttering your applications folder. - modusop, on 12/03/2007, -0/+33I definitely miss this- I was planning on having an iLife stack, an iWork stack, a music apps stack, etc. Now the only way to do that is mess with your apps folder or with unsightly aliases. Bring this back Apple!
- wfbnadador, on 12/04/2007, -2/+31http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNX1QKlfzEo
- Misaiato, on 12/04/2007, -16/+42Welcome to the Family brother :)
- willemmulder, on 12/04/2007, -6/+28mac is a famliy, baby.
did I say baby? - crazybrit, on 12/04/2007, -9/+31THIS JOKE IS TOTALLY STILL FUNNY, RIGHT GUYS?
- JHawk24821, on 12/04/2007, -3/+23You can add a configurable stack of recent/favorite items to your Leopard dock with this simple process:
------------ from http://tinyurl.com/2gsz6f -----------------
In Leopard you now have the ability to add several types of "recent/favorite items" to the Dock. To add a folder like this to the Dock, open up a terminal window and type the following and then press Enter:
defaults write com.apple.dock persistent-others -array-add '{ "tile-data" = { "list-type" = 1; }; "tile-type" = "recents-tile"; }'
Once that command completes, type the following command in your terminal window and press Enter:
killall Dock
Once you do this, you'll have a new Folder on your Dock. By default, this folder will show the Recent Applications. You can right click on this folder and select from the following options:
Recent Applications
Recent Documents
Recent Servers
Favorite Volumes
Favorite Items
But what if you want to have multiple of these folders so that you don't have to keep right-clicking to change what is shown? Turns out you can run the commands above multiple times and each time you run the command, a new folder will be added. So for example, you can run it three times so that you have separate folders for you Favorite Items, Recent Applications, and Recent Documents.
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This certainly isn't the answer to the problem outlined in this digg, however it is a step in the right direction. Thanks for reading, and Happy Holidays! - dagamer34, on 12/04/2007, -0/+20Holy crap, now I understand why everyone complains about how stacks are now. That would definitely reduce a LOT of clutter in the Dock.
- DarkDx, on 12/03/2007, -9/+28Isn't that how it works currently? I'm so confused: http://images.apple.com/macosx/images/macosx_index ... The only difference is the shadow am I missing something? Please don't bury me and go away, just tell me.
- robogobo, on 12/04/2007, -0/+19Maybe that's one thing they didn't figure out, and why it didn't make the release. Good point.
- jtbandes, on 12/04/2007, -2/+20Come to the dark side. We have cookies.
- NerveBand, on 12/04/2007, -0/+16Mirror:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2LknAlT6U8 - kuwan, on 12/04/2007, -6/+20Meh, who cares about this when there's Quicksilver? As long as I have Quicksilver Apple can do whatever they want with the Dock. =P
- crazybrit, on 12/04/2007, -1/+14lame. The video doesn't show how it works with launching applications. Do you have to click the stack to see if applications behind the front are running?
- darkNiGHTS, on 12/04/2007, -0/+12Here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M57JGvWOlCg - Refrag, on 12/04/2007, -0/+11If these stacks were on the left side of the dock that is reserved for application launching and management, how would you know which application in the stack is running? And how would you be able to use the application's contextual dock menu unless it is the top application in the stack?
- corysfo, on 12/04/2007, -0/+10nah, as cool as it looks, the dock is also to show you what's running at a glance. how do you do that when apps you have running are burried inside a stack? there are a lot of problems this creates.
- monkeyrun, on 12/04/2007, -1/+11I am pretty sure they get rid of it for UI consistency.
What happens if you launch one of the apps within the stack. - jmnz, on 12/04/2007, -3/+13Currently over 150 people.. and I'm sure the number of diggs will only get bigger with time. Just because you don't care don't assume no-one else does either.
- idesign562, on 12/04/2007, -0/+10Why not just link to a youtube video or something?
- bbqsalad, on 12/04/2007, -1/+10NOT FUNNY IM CALLING THE POLICE!!
- ogore, on 12/04/2007, -0/+9yeah you wouldn't know if it was open
- WaterMedia, on 12/04/2007, -0/+9Or not even QuickSilver. Since Leopard hit I've been launching with Spotlight! God bless Apple for making a solid OS with options...
- skeen07, on 12/04/2007, -1/+9THIS ROCKS! Please give it to us! Those are wayyy better stacks.
- clackerd, on 12/04/2007, -0/+8no you're blind. see legendxx's comment above, hip-hopper.
- bacchus101, on 12/04/2007, -2/+10Sweet! It caught the 503 error! I heard everyone talking about it and was scared that I might have missed it...
- Zneo11, on 12/04/2007, -0/+8Yeah this is what I really wanted with stacks.
- GOVStooge, on 12/04/2007, -0/+8I actually tried to do this thinking that that was how stacks were supposed to work. I wanted a grouping of apps in a stack on hte dock. Kept wondering what the hell I was doing wrong.
Ended up creating a folder with shortcuts in it and putting that on the dock as a stack
I'd rather see it return to the way the video showed - avs5221, on 12/04/2007, -0/+7You make me uncomfortable.
- ...---..., on 12/04/2007, -1/+8Oh cut it out with the fanboy *****.
I for one dug it but only because I went to one of the youtube links and viewed the video from there. So does that make me fanboy #207?
Why did you even bother to check out the link and spend the time to even write a comment about something that you obviously could care less about anyhow? - pbuschma, on 12/04/2007, -0/+7OK... this feature has just been disabled .... anyone know how to ENABLE it?
- braveryonions, on 12/04/2007, -1/+7Currently, if you highlight multiple apps and drag them into the dock, they will not be in a stack. They will all be separate
The stacks that are actually in Leopard only work for files, NOT apps. - forgiste, on 12/04/2007, -1/+7Anybody that would click on the link to read the damn post cares. Why would you open a submission that you don't care about?! This is in the Apple section, btw.
- ImWatchingYou, on 12/04/2007, -0/+6It makes quite a difference if you have a ton of apps that you use often.
- lostsinner, on 12/04/2007, -1/+7Hear hear!
I initially thought, "You know, that would be pretty spiffy." Then I realized I love Quicksilver, and that I already keep a nice, clean Dock because of it.
Still, I could see it being useful to people who, for whatever reason, either haven't discovered or don't use Quicksilver. - theprez, on 12/04/2007, -0/+6You don't _have to_ create aliases for grouping apps in a new folder, but moving apps and docs around just to group them together in the dock does suck. Maybe Apple will change this in a future software update.
- Zneo11, on 12/04/2007, -1/+6I think the animated icon would just move to the front. They don't animate that often anyhow.
- flmumb, on 12/04/2007, -7/+12Yup.
- scotty588, on 12/04/2007, -0/+5its linked above by Shade00a00
video - http://kuragari.com.nyud.net:8090/wp-content/uploa ... - _skin_, on 12/04/2007, -0/+5You suck!
- toetagger, on 12/04/2007, -2/+7I'm beginning to think the big Leopard "secrets" was the fact they'll be removing features.
- kindwarrior, on 12/04/2007, -0/+5There's at least 1 obvious problem with having stacks in the "Application" side of the dock: Dock icons frequently contain status and notification info: I saw no mechanism for displaying which process is running in a stack or an application status if it is buried in the stack. As a short example: I occasionally work on Illustrator files that can take a few minutes to process all their filters; I can often multi-task by switching to PhotoShop (or some other app but PS for this example) and work on that while watching the progress bar superimposed on the illustrator dock icon. If Illustrator is buried in the same stack as PS how do I see that icon; How can I tell whether or not PS and/or Illustrator are running? If applications spawn out of the stack as they are made active, this would have the confusing effect of constantly changing the contents of the stack -or- if the stack contents remain unchanged (with the Active app also appearing in the doc) then this is functionally no different than having a stack of applications on the "document" side of the dock.
- soopafly, on 12/04/2007, -0/+4Am I the only one who's tired of the "If blah blah blah happened to Windows, everyone would blah blah blah..."
How ***** old are you?? Who the hell is talking about WIndows in here? -
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