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Superdelegates Unswayed by Clinton’s Attacks
nytimes.com — A cross-section of superdelegates showed that none had been persuaded much by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s attacks on Senator Barack Obama.
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- TheOS2Guy, on 04/19/2008, -20/+5This is *****. No one knows what superdelegates are going to do, even the superdelegates themselves. The NYTimes is a conservative "McCain-leaning" newspaper and we know the Republicans are praying for a "McCain vs Obama" presidential run because McCain will win. Put McCain against Clinton and the Republicans lose. So this story is as bogus as McCan and Obama are. The only viable candidate is Clinton.
- saxreturns, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_overtakes_ ...
O RLY? - manfrin, on 04/19/2008, -1/+10Multiple polls and surveys have shown Obama would have a much bigger lead over McCain than Clinton would.
- saxreturns, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Oh for *****'s sake, why can't I just post links and not have the comment system ***** them up?
- Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Don't edit your comment. If you do, re-paste the link. The process of editing truncates the URL.
- john2kx, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6is that why Republican voters are going as far as committing voter fraud by registering Democrat and voting for Hillary? Because they're praying for a "McCain vs Obama" race?
That totally makes sense.- jhandfield, on 04/19/2008, -5/+0Fraud? Nothing fraudulent about changing parties.
- john2kx, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5Don't play stupid. They're switching over and voting for who they believe the weaker Democratic candidate will be vs McCain..
Unless you're going to try to convince me the Republicans will vote for Hillary in the general election?- jhandfield, on 04/21/2008, -0/+0Why wouldn't they? The general election is already going to be a contest of two liberals put forth by the major parties, it's just a matter of degree.
What would your alternative be, though, if the DNC were to forbid people from registering as Democrats who weren't previously? Membership cards? Decoder rings? Kissing the ring on Ted Kennedy's finger (before he drowns you)?
- jhandfield, on 04/21/2008, -0/+0Why wouldn't they? The general election is already going to be a contest of two liberals put forth by the major parties, it's just a matter of degree.
- john2kx, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5Don't play stupid. They're switching over and voting for who they believe the weaker Democratic candidate will be vs McCain..
- jhandfield, on 04/19/2008, -5/+0Fraud? Nothing fraudulent about changing parties.
- chaosium, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1"The NYTimes is a conservative "McCain-leaning" newspaper"
Please explain. - More4, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1NY Times endorsed Senator Tanya Harding - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri1.h ...
- MidgardMurda, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2lol, yes...thats why Rush Limbaugh wants people to skip voting for McCain and vote for Obama...wait...no.
- BeefBaron, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1Successful troll is successful.
- saxreturns, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_overtakes_ ...
- rickcarson, on 04/19/2008, -8/+3The people running the buggy vote counting machines have already decided who will win, so why get upset about the pre-game show?
Instead, get upset about important things, like why this political crap keeps showing up in the Apple section? There's a politics section, put it in that you idjuts! - betasp, on 04/19/2008, -10/+531 Diggs, wrong topic = front page.
Nope, Digg is not broken.- john2kx, on 04/19/2008, -3/+5you're broken.. STFU. There's one of you in every front page story w/ less than 50 diggs.
- saxreturns, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4Hey, pobody's nerfect.
- farTart, on 04/19/2008, -3/+1I think CNN is to blame:
http://clinton-news-network.com/2008/POLITICS/04/1 ... - faizal5k, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2HUCK FILLARY!
***** I can't wait for this to be all over after April 22nd. That piece of ***** Hillary. - vinnyvenus, on 04/19/2008, -2/+9Wtf, Buried for posting in the wrong section.
- SpykerSpeed, on 04/19/2008, -3/+1It's funny how long it's taking for the Democrats to finally nominate a black presidential candidate. They've always claimed to be the party that gives African Americans every opportunity imaginable, and when one finally succeeds on his own merits they drag the process out ad infinitum.
- beowabbit, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Not "always"; not even just "all the last century". It was only in the 60s, I think, that the Democratic party clearly distinguished itself as the party opposed to segregation. Remember that the Republican party was formed partly around opposition to slavery.
That said, I don't think it's so much a matter of the party itself dragging the process out ad infinitum. (Note that the party is also dragging the process of finally telling the first serious female candidate "no" out ad infinitum.) If Obama weren't running, Clinton's nomination would have been a cakewalk. If Clinton weren't running, Obama's nomination would have been a cakewalk (and taken everybody by surprise). They each have the misfortune to be running against the other. (And in my opinion, Obama's handling it a lot better, but if the race had been easier, Clinton would look less desperate and more presidential, too.)
- beowabbit, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Not "always"; not even just "all the last century". It was only in the 60s, I think, that the Democratic party clearly distinguished itself as the party opposed to segregation. Remember that the Republican party was formed partly around opposition to slavery.
- forgiste, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3well yeah, because they're not idiots. They know when you're telling the truth and when you're just playing politics. So far Hillary's Truth to Politics ratio is pretty low
- mzx639, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4ZZZZZzzzzzzz....Buried.
- junkwheel, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3I have a conspiracy theory:
Some people may post articles in the wrong section who don't want the articles to become popular (and know they will be submitted by another user anyway). So when somebody tries to submit it in the right section, Digg counts it as a duplicate, it can't be submitted again, and it can never land in the right section. So it's lost in the Apple tech where it gets less exposure to people following the 2008 elections.
This, however, hasn't stopped this one landing on the front page. - smartass007, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3It's so sad and desperate when you have to campaign on why voters should not support the 'other guy' instead of why people should support you.
Hillary FTL - jbenson2, on 04/19/2008, -5/+1Alternate version: Superdelegates Unswayed by the O-man's Disastrous Debating Skills, by his association with a hate-filled preacher, by his association with a domestic terrorist, by his association with a slum land-lord, by his participation in the Million Man March, etc. etc.
- Michael9636, on 08/04/2008, -1/+2"...by his association... by his association...by his association..." This guilt-by-association tactic is getting really tiresome. Joe McCarthy ruined countless lives using this tactic in his obsessive hunt for communists in every corner of our country years ago. Innocent people were condemned because they knew someone, in some cases even because they knew someone who knew someone, not for anything they had done.
Have we come to this again? To anyone who persists in using this lame tactic to destroy a candidate, we should ask the same question that was asked of McCarthy years ago: "Have you no decency? Have you no shame?"- jbenson2, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1How many friends do you have that are terrorists, bombers, racists. And how many wives have you had who were America haters?
- Michael9636, on 08/04/2008, -1/+2"...by his association... by his association...by his association..." This guilt-by-association tactic is getting really tiresome. Joe McCarthy ruined countless lives using this tactic in his obsessive hunt for communists in every corner of our country years ago. Innocent people were condemned because they knew someone, in some cases even because they knew someone who knew someone, not for anything they had done.
- Maverick18x, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2so remind me again what this has to do with Apple? buried for effing up my RSS feed.
- JointVenture, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1See Obama give hillary the finger,
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/20 ...- Michael9636, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2He's scratching his face, as he frequently does when giving a speech. This is BS and everyone knows it. You loose.
- tonage, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Get your political crap out of my tech RSS feed! It is bad enough when just a slight hint of it being tech makes people pollute the tech topics with politics. This is not tech in any way!
- solefald, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1seems to me that these "uncommited superdelegates" already know exactly who they are going to vote for, so they need to get off their ass and make their decision public.
unless they are sitting there and waiting to see who will have the lead over the next few weeks, so they can vote for whoever they think will come on top, so they can kiss right candidates ass later.
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