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- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -54/+314Yawn. The problem with the Apple complainers is that they think people buy phones based on spec sheets. Not everyone is a geek. Normal people will buy the iPhone just so they won't have to carry a separate phone and an iPod. And because they've already owned an iPod and like it, they trust Apple as a brand and plus, they're already locked into the iTunes ecosystem.
And articles like this also ignore the features that the iPhone has over other phones. As I mentioned, the iPhone has a iPod, and although many of the competing phones have touch screens, they aren't the same without multi-touch. Unless you're pinching to enlarge browser pages or photos or scrolling up and down music and contact lists or just moving apps around the screen, you won't get why multi-touch is SO much better than just a touch screen.
Most of these competing phones don't have Wi-Fi (like the Instinct). Most of the competing phones don't have a unified way of getting apps. Seriously, how many times have you bought an app for a Windows Mobile phone without having to register at every individual site? It's maddening! The App Store makes buying apps easy. It's embarrassing how easy it is to spend money in the App Store.
Most phones don't have visual voicemail. Ask anyone whether they would rather have MMS or Visual Voicemail, and I guarantee Visual Voicemail will win 9 times out of 10. There's also the convenience of Visual Call Swap and Visual Call Merge, which people don't talk about much. Seriously, how many times have you tried to put someone on hold on an ordinary phone and hung up on the person by accident? With the iPhone, that's a thing of the past.
Most phones don't have a FULL internet browser like Mobile Safari. People brag about Opera Mobile a lot, but Opera Mobile doesn't really serve up real internet. It directs you to the internet on proxy servers, giving you prepackaged web pages.
Anyway, people are going to buy what they buy, but be reassured, current iPhone users have advantages over other phones and no amount of whining about missing features is going to change the fact that they love their phones, for many of the reasons I just mentioned. - macaca, on 07/17/2008, -16/+240#8 AT&T.
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -12/+106"Still no Flash player for rich media content"
Even tho i'm impressed with the things my phone (HTC) can do, it still cannot play back flash video. You can get lite versions of flash installed, you'll play animations or games, but no video. YouTube has a mobile version, not sure who's using it.
Not having flash video isn't limited to iPhone, there is no grudge with Apple & Adobe. Me thinks its a CPU thing. Wouldn't be surprised if the new Intel Atom chip is able to process flash video and tossed into a number of competing phones. If Apple cant get flash video onto the iPhone by next year, it may be left in the dust. Having mobile YouTube is indeed the killer app for any phone.
Also, flash video requires ALOT of bandwidth. It would be kryptonite to those who don't (or can't) have unlimited data plans. - LaurenElder, on 07/17/2008, -10/+958. Your boyfriend pays more attention to it than you
- LordStandley, on 07/17/2008, -17/+968: Because I don't have one.
- ProjectGSX, on 07/17/2008, -20/+93News Flash: The iPhone is not perfect.
It is, however, the best convergence device in the world.
And that thing about pricing is just stupid. I pay exactly the same amount for my iPhone 3G that I paid for my Samsung BlackJack 2. - Surferess, on 07/17/2008, -26/+87I think it sucks that I don't have one! I can work with the inadequacies.
- Ouhei, on 07/17/2008, -9/+68Nail. On the head.
The phone is far from perfect, and not for everyone. But keep in mind apple has been at the phone game for, what, a year? In that year they've managed come totally change the market. - 48snickers, on 07/17/2008, -12/+70Not having a flash player is currently the closest thing to adblock for Safari on iPhone. I consider that a feature!
- virtualsnyper, on 07/17/2008, -17/+68#8. My vagina has sand in it.
#9. I'm broke and can't afford one
____ posted from an iPhone ... bitch ____ - rudy23, on 07/17/2008, -7/+54$1000 per year??? it wasnt like the previous version was free to use.
- leerayIG88, on 07/17/2008, -10/+43I wish I can see her boobs.
(article picture) - justiceape, on 07/17/2008, -24/+52Why are there constantly Divine Caroline stories on Digg? Divine Caroline is the worst site ever. It's the most vapid, uninformative crap right up there with Yahoo's front-page news. It's seriously always ***** that any no-nothing could crap out in like five seconds. Well, not like. Is.
- kbzurk3, on 07/17/2008, -2/+30Doesn't even wash dishes...stupid piece of crap.
- Corbet, on 07/17/2008, -2/+27No cell phone will ever be perfect.
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -0/+258. Your girlfriend pays more attention to it than you
- gymbrall, on 07/17/2008, -1/+26You guys need to get your spouses together...
- bigsteve, on 07/17/2008, -2/+26Honest to god, whichever firmware brings Flash to the iPhone, I'm not installing until someone releases a way to disable the Flash. Surfing the web without Flash has been like a breath of fresh air.
Sure, let's throw all good web design practice down the toilet, index-ability, any attention to disabled or colorblind users, all of it just so we can have our retarded video sites. Oh look, the kid got hit with a shovel. Again. Good on Apple or anyone else who can release a popular in-demand web-browsing solution that discludes Flash. Do we really want to take all web standards and hand them over to Adobe to dictate back to us, with an extra binary, something to slow things down, waste battery, be an extra point of failure and security issues? Just say no to Adobe, and yes to AJAX, CSS, HTML5, use of new tags, etc. - Spuy767, on 07/17/2008, -9/+31Let's face it. The article was written, and titled, with the sole purpose of attracting hits. Nothing more. We can all move along, we've seen this before. As far as the above comment, Abode has claimed to have a flash version ready for the iPhone. Apple is using Adobe's desire to have flash on the iPhone as leverage and holding off on releasing it until Adobe releases a version for Mac OS that doesn't suck balls.
- JeddHampton, on 07/17/2008, -0/+21You bought a car just because it had an iPod dock? To be honest, I think that should be the real issue here.
- maxsunset, on 07/17/2008, -0/+20Thats unbelievable. You bought a car just for it's ipod dock. Wow...
- tambird, on 07/17/2008, -6/+26Why one service provider? They are on to multiple models. I don't want AT&T. I have a great - cheap - family plan. I really want one but oh well. I guess they might just get cheaper while I wait.
- rumplestiltz, on 07/17/2008, -6/+22AT&T thinks they're all that and a bag of chips.
- tokyomonster, on 07/17/2008, -9/+24Ok, I wish everyone would STFU about the increased data price. 3G plans cost more than EDGE plans, period. It's not an iphone only thing. You could buy the 599 Nokia N95, and the 3g plan would probably be more expensive than EDGE. So, you can't hold that against the phone, hold it against the provider. Also, this article talks about $99 for MobileMe like it's required, which is also wrong.
This is more FUD. If you don't like the phone, don't buy it. - ngmcs8203, on 07/17/2008, -5/+20Yea but Adobe is working on a version of Flash. And not having flash isn't making me hate my iPhone. FunnyOrDie works fine and so does YouTube. Spankwire on the other hand... sad sad.
Cut and paste? When will people stop griping about that. I loved it on my Treo, but it is not a vital part of my PDA/Media device experience. Not being able to tether the internet connection does kind of suck. If I wanted to play online poker or pull up a funny video on a trip with no wifi around, I can't do it from my laptop. That will take some getting used to, but I won't return my iPhone because of that. - rayray14, on 07/17/2008, -0/+14#8 b: ROGERS.
- hadiz, on 07/17/2008, -14/+28#8 - Two year contract required.
#9 - In-store activation required. - tombonneau, on 07/17/2008, -3/+17This is spot on. Was making the same point to my friend yesterday. What gets lots in the feature criticism of the iPhone -- why can't it do this ... it doesn't have that -- the simple biggest advantage is now getting lost: namely, I don't have to carry an ipod and a phone.
To me, the iPhone is an iPod that can make phone calls and do all sorts of other cool *****.
I will say thought that as a first gen owner I will not be running out to buy the 3G anytime soon. Wasn't blown away with 3G speed in the store and there simply aren't enough improvements otherwise. - alpha19, on 07/17/2008, -4/+18Because no other phone requires a two year contract.
- rudy23, on 07/17/2008, -14/+28No complaints with AT&T here. Guess its just a cool thing to bash the big corporations.
- apersaud, on 07/17/2008, -1/+14Please remember that Apple went to VERIZON first, but they (mainly the CEO of Verizon) said no to them. That is why they ended up with AT&T. If not, we would have had an iPhone that uses CDMA + EVDO (3G) in the first generation (a better technology).
- petomni, on 07/17/2008, -8/+20Best reason to buy the iphone is still going to be hacking it.
- mr_wej, on 07/17/2008, -2/+14#8 My computer has more RAM than my iPhone and I bought the computer 2 damn years ago!
#9 My Camera has interchangeable lenses and I bought it 4 years ago!
#10 My Xbox 360 supports Guitar Hero, the iphone does not... Xbox 360 is older technology too!
#11 Unlike my iphone my toaster can create crispy bread and it was around before I was f'ing born!
Come on iphone, catch up with technology would you? Apple you really need to focus less on usability and more on being everything to everybody, just like every other cell phone company. - vcudigg, on 07/17/2008, -1/+13Maybe TomTom and Apple have a contract that will make TomTom the only GPS provider allowed on the iPhone?
- holymrack, on 07/17/2008, -12/+23This story feels like an aggregation of all the iPhone hate put in to a single post. Uneducated, and no thought behind it.
1. The iPhone will cost approximately $40 more dollars to own than the last generation. That's $40 for GPS and 3G. Follow me here. The iPhone 3G is $200 less than the original, but the 3G data (which is STANDARD $30 for almost every carrier) will set you back an extra $240 over your original plan. Difference? $40. You would have spent that on something else if the pricing was the same and no subsidy was offered. As for MobileMe, you're not even remotely required to use it, and they offer a 60-day free trial.
2. Did they do any research? Both Apple and Tom-Tom have quite openly stated a turn-by-turn app is in the works. The information they're referring to was a leaked memo just after the Jobsnote last month.
3. No, you can't tether out of the box. But if you're the type of power user who would need to be tethering your phone to your laptop either a) you're too dumb to realize that most things you would need to do on your laptop can be easily accomplished via your iPhone or b) you can take the extra effort to Jailbreak your phone and use a 3rd party application that allows you to do this.
4. Just read this. http://daringfireball.net/2008/07/copy_and_paste . You can't easily have a multi-touch interface and copy-paste. It is possible, but it will take a lot of development to implement it in a way that Apple feels that it jives with the rest of the iPhone UI. In the meantime, just learn to remember stuff.
5. The only valid point, almost. Combine this with all the other gripes and I'm seriously convinced they just want to be carrying around a brick in their pocket. All of these things take battery life, and a 5MP camera uses more than a 2MP camera. We need a jump in battery technology before all these things will be available with more than 5 minutes of life.
6. Apple is a company of artists and people who care about media. Have you ever listened to something over A2DP? Take the average user who at the very best is using a 128K AAC file they purchased from iTunes. Now compress that file even further so it can be streamed via Bluetooth. Now have it be played through earbuds. What do you have? Terrible audio and a case of tinnitus because you turned it up too loud.
7. As has been said, most phones that DO have flash are limited to ads and simple games. Hardly anyone is seeing full-fledged video outside of You Tube. Just a fact. There are phones that do it, but not many, and they lack the price-point and the UI of the iPhone. MMS is for 16-year-old girls who want to take naked pictures, send them to their boyfriend, and have it end up on the internet. Voice dialing still makes you look like a jackass, and in past experience hasn't worked well enough for it to be worthwhile. As far as TV goes, Sling has also said their working on an App; the ball is in Apple's court now. - krische, on 07/17/2008, -1/+12Voice coverage is great, 3G coverage is what is scarce compared to the competition (Sprint and Verizon)
- wellyuk, on 07/17/2008, -2/+13@krische:
How many large touch screened phones were available before the iPhone? How many other phones have had people lining up for 24 hours in the masses? Whether it's a tiny share or otherwise, it has definitely changed the market. - tightscrummy, on 07/17/2008, -5/+15"I'm a flash developer"
I hope you catch on fire while being ripped apart by wild animals. - dajuggernaut, on 07/17/2008, -2/+12I don't know about the rest of you but the lack of copy/paste is not a deal breaker for me... Its something that can be easily fixed by a software update, and so are half the things on that list.
- Theknightinhell, on 07/17/2008, -2/+12I honestly don't have a problem at all with the phone's camera. I mean it sucks that you can't take videos (yet) but the pictures I've taken with it so far have turn out beautiful. I haven't had any problems with my iPhone so far and I'm still constantly being amazing at what it can do. I mean, just today I woke up, checked digg and found there was a free VNC client for the iPhone. Tried it out, works perfectly (and very well too!). I'm extremely glad I switched over from my old phone (treo 680)
- wellyuk, on 07/17/2008, -0/+9That's internet/blog journalism for you.
Even point 5 I disagree with, for reasons I've posted elsewhere. 5 megapixels over 2 megapixels only means a bigger image not a higher quality image. - jobobshishkabob, on 07/17/2008, -0/+9Sorry for the hijack, but these complaint are just getting ***** ridiculous. The cost to own is just like EVERY other decent smart phone. Data charges are the same. Flash is also not available on many smart phones (including blackberry, wm6, etc). The rest of these issues will be fixed with jailbreak so stop bitching.
- subliminalurge, on 07/17/2008, -1/+9I agree that the lack of tethering is a problem, and I'd love to see it implemented.
My workaround is to just leave my old phone in the console of my truck, so if I do need to tether when I'm away for a weekend, I can swap sims and get it done. As workarounds go, it's about as ugly as it gets, but as rarely as I need to tether I find this solution better than going back to using that piece of ***** Blackjack I had before. - exomni, on 07/17/2008, -1/+9Examples of photos taken with the "wimpy" 2MP camera:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajblaszczak/244364486 ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ibilees/2529500154/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/missindipop/217921352 ...
Remember fellows, more MP DOES NOT mean better pictures. A Nikon D40 with 6MP beats a 10MP smartphone any day.
It's about the image PROCESSOR, not about the megapixels. All smartphones have ***** image processors, so there's no point having more than 2 or 3 megapixels. (Though I would say boosting the MP to 3.2 would be the sweet spot for the iPhone) - ninjasquirrel, on 07/17/2008, -3/+11The Nokia N800 has the full version of Flash 9 on it, and it's not a whole lot more powerful than the iPhone or any HTC phone. It's a conscious decision on the part of Apple's management, it's nothing to do with underpowered hardware.
- Gndoab, on 07/17/2008, -0/+8aww but you can't copy and paste it to other forums...
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -4/+12Can't 99% of this merely be addressed with a software update or two? Shouldn't these be list of "What we would like to see in the next iPhone software update"? From my understanding, Apple Engineering said that copy and paste was not out of the question and that they just ran out of development time in getting 2.0 out the door. Since we know the hardware is strong enough maybe we can assume the 2.1 update, free of charge, will have copy/ paste ... and therefore all this hatred should be directed toward making sure that 2.1 has that, etc.?
Or is that too rational? - ngmcs8203, on 07/17/2008, -0/+8If you're already paying $80/month on your current phone an additional $8 is actually only 20 gallons of gas.
- subliminalurge, on 07/17/2008, -1/+8Jailbreaking it allowed you to get free cell service with unlimited data?
Wow, I never knew that. -
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