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- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -19/+67My friend just got one of these. It doesn't compare to an iPhone, Samsung rushed a cheapened impression of the iPhone to the market. The software is glitchy, and no where near as polished as the iPhones. It's going to require some real effort produce a product the bests the iPhone.
- sstidman, on 07/05/2008, -2/+31Wait, didn't the Instinct come out very recently? Your telling me that you just spent $120+ on a new phone and in 6 days you plan to throw it away and spend another few hundred $ on a different phone?
I wish I had money to burn like that. - SaladCactusKing, on 07/05/2008, -1/+23I don't give a ***** about the phone itself, but that commercial they play before the movie trailers is just ***** infuria-RAGGGGHRRRRRRRRRRRRG
- Niz1, on 07/05/2008, -23/+44About the title, if going by that logic apple just copied just about every PDA.
- SaladCactusKing, on 07/05/2008, -1/+17To be fair, it's not as bad as "Ashton's Cool Pix" which may or may not have led me to murder three hookers and keep them in my cellar for a month only to then skin them and make a ladysuit for myself.
- stupidStan, on 07/05/2008, -12/+27praise apple + put down competing product = easy diggs
- serpentor, on 07/05/2008, -4/+18The web browser on this is absolutely horrendous. Choppy, laggy, poor rendering, etc. It's so far removed from the web experience on the iphone that any fair comparison is impossible.
What's worse is Opera Mini doesn't detect the touch keyboard thus rendering it useless (OMini on this would be very nice). Lastly, Sprint backpeddled on their support of SERO customers who bought the Instinct, first allowing it, then ordering all of them to either return it or be *forced* onto a different (much more expensive) 'Simple Everything' plan. Bad move.. - bxblox, on 07/05/2008, -6/+19FTA: "Start with its on-screen keyboard, which offers neither effective spell-checking nor tactile feedback"
Yea, because what touch screen phone these days comes without tactile feedback. amirite? - thatsmyaibo, on 07/05/2008, -10/+23It certainly isn't the iPhone but I have one and I really enjoy it. I have yet to have a glitch, the internet is really fast and the GPS blows the iPhone Google Maps GPS out of the water (it uses TeleNav turn by turn with voice). The look and touch interface may resemble the iPhone's but this is a really good phone with its own personality. I pay $70/mo for 450 minutes and unlimited data AND SMS messaging and dev kits are being sent out for more apps. If you want a damn good phone for $130 it's worth it but don't expect it to be an iPhone. It's not quite there.
That being said, I plan on leaving Sprint on the 11th for the 3G iPhone because the Instinct is not Mac compatible and I want to consolidate my iPod Touch with my phone. - CryoNine, on 07/05/2008, -1/+12I played with this phone in the Sprint store the other day. It's actually really nice hardware-wise, but the software is lacking. The screen responsiveness isn't there, and the design overall is confusing and a step backwards.
- Morky, on 07/05/2008, -4/+15Yes, we have seen the n-series. The software sucks. It's not about feature count, it's about software.
- Galaxylander, on 07/05/2008, -2/+12All of these companies should stop trying to 'kill' the iPhone and make replacements for it and try to make something better that's *not* an iPhone imitator. Apple knows what they're doing with the browser, the OS and the design because that's what they've been doing for years and years and years. Nokia, Samsung- all those companies have been making phones and terrible mobile OSs for years. iPhone shook the mobile phone industry because it was a quality transition from a computer operating system to a cellular phone operating system. Apple pulled it off because they know how to make an OS and a browser, and a photo app.. all of that stuff.
- bud38, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10Just Only? WTF?
- FUO213, on 07/05/2008, -19/+28Sorry guys, i know i sound like an "apple fan boy" but i really don't think that any phone company will ever best the iphone. i mean, so far all that has come out of all of the copies are a lot of ***** iPhone look alikes that don't run a custom os that have glitches and not nearly the capabilities of what the iPhone has now. Now that 3g and GPS are in the picture, it would take a miracle to best the iPhone.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9^ Whoever Dugg this down has no sense of humor.
- GoldenChaos, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9Uh... the Instinct's entire ad campaign was called "Instinct vs. iPhone." The device's existance is validated by the iPhone and its need to compete with it - when the product its commercials state it was designed to compete with falls drastically short, naturally users will be critical about false advertising.
- MtheoryX, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8You say that as if you're supposed to do something else with hookers.
- CasaMan, on 07/05/2008, -10/+18"The term PDA was first used on January 7, 1992 by Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton." - wikipedia
- Rudegar, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8R&D's never set the schedules
product mangers and marketing people do that - ripple123, on 07/05/2008, -3/+10my instinct says to not buy this phone. and i always listen to my instinct.
- jo21, on 07/05/2008, -6/+13have you seen the nokia n-series?
nokia is famous in europe +asia for its userfriendly interfaces
sadly they didnt had many touchscreen phones (only 2) until recently.
that and hardware like the nokia in the nokia n95/n96/n82 5mpx xenon flash 3.5g wifi VGA 30fps video recording, powerVR graphic.
nokia just need to join those 2.
it won't take a miracle just nokia to move up faster. - colourclassic, on 07/05/2008, -4/+11I got your back man: it does.
- Morky, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8..and it sucks.
- aspec, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6@sstidman
I think he has intentions on returning the phone and paying the first month's service.
If he canceled his contract, he'd have to pay an early termination fee, too. - MadFlava, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6I just left ATT for Sprint, ditching my iPhone in the process. Initially I went with the Instinct and the OP is right. It's really nothing special. The browser is slow and doesnt have NEAR enough screen real estate to be useful. It's also slow, not much faster than EDGE on the iPhone.
Also, email cant be read in landscape mode so it's REALLY cramped. Since web browsing and email are what I really needed the phone for anyway, it was kind of a deal breaker for me. I kept it for 2 days and returned it for a Mogul. - trollick, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Unlike diggers, the rest of people don't know and could not care less what the difference between IPhone and Instinct are, and they have no idea who Steve Jobs is.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7The onscreen keyboard works so well for me at this point, I think the added weight and lost screen real-estate wasted on a physical keyboard isn't a feature.
- wacomwacoff, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6People who think the iPhone is "just a phone" are speaking out of ignorance.
- jbella, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Funny. My iphone onscreen keyboard works great and it still gets signal where my friends Blackberry 8800 just give up and die.
So what have we proven?
Anecdotal evidence is almost meaningless. - OpaqueMurdock, on 07/05/2008, -13/+18Not to be a total freak... but what did every PDA copy?
Thats right, a little gizmo some of us recall as a Newton.
You can't really play the "iPhone copies other smart phones and PDAs" game with Apple since most PDAs started as essentially knock offs of the Message Pad 100. There were other "electronic organizers" before the newton, but these were very rudimentary. The MP 100 started the trend of serious "palm computing" and every device that has a similar form factor or functionality be it an iPhone, treo, or this wacky thing, is a decedent of it to some degree.
Apple should be expected build a phone that is also a great PDA/handheld computer... and they can't be blamed if people don't recall that they invented the marked that eventually spawned such "smart phones". - mcnasby, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7Looks are cheap. Software is everything. Until these phone manufacturers pony up and develop an operating system that will catch the interest of developers (or even issue an SDK for that matter), there will be no such thing as an iPhone killer. Sure Android might be able to do that -- and I hope they do, I'd love to have a 'Google' phone - but there's nothing at this current time that can compete on with the myriad of opportunities the Apple has created around the iPhone. From a beautiful form factor to a robust SDK - the iPhone has it covered.
The important issue to consider when thinking about challengers in the iPhone market is the inclusion of the ubiquitous 2-year contract. Phone manufacturers had well over a *YEAR* to make a phone with a better interface and over-all design. The obviously dropped the ball. And now, they're going to have to wait at least 6 months to a year for a prospective/current iPhone consumer to even consider purchasing new phone out-of-pocket.
My love for what Apple has done is more than superficial. It's love for what they've done to an entire industry. There's absolutely no denying that they lit the much-needed spark under the competing cell phone manufacturers' ass. In the end it will help every consumer in the market for a cell phone. - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4"The browser needs work?" The browser is what makes the iPhone worthwhile, so if the browser is a piece of ***** it's not as good as the iPhone.
- Ignignokt01, on 07/05/2008, -6/+10Except that the Zune is a pretty good piece of hardware, and the software aint half bad either.
This phone is just rubbish, when you compare it to an iPhone.
Just buy a blackberry if you can't get an iphone, or don't want one. - System6, on 07/05/2008, -4/+8OK, Where to begin....
This Instinct is a whole 20 days old? Samsung released their SDK the DAY it came out. Apps are on the way, as well as bug fixes. To be fair, the Jesus phone didn't have any bugs. (Anyone remember all the people who couldn't get theirs activated through Itunes for days?!)
It has a full featured web browser, although it needs work. It has HTML, but no flash. Wait a second....no phone has flash except for a few windows based ones that have hacks you say?! TRUE. The Iphone has no flash player either.
The iphone through AT&T will start at $199.99 each with a 2 year contract. 3G isn't even offered in all markets, not to mention, 3G can be faster than EV-DO Rev. A, but typically is not.
The Instinct is $129.99, and the everything plan is $99.99 a month. This includes unlimited talking, data, GPS navigation, TV, radio, picture mail, email, and web. It would run about $115.00 a month after tax.
The iphone is $70.00 more and you would need the unlimited talking plan for $99.99, then add on data, then add on text messaging, etc. After tax the iphone with comparable add ons runs about $160.00.
The Instinct will activate on standard Sprint everything family plans. You could have 2 instincts with 1500 minutes and unlimited everything else for about $150.00 a month after taxes. (You can add a 3rd, 4th, and 5th to the same plan for only $19.99 More a month.)
2 iphones with a comparable plan will run about $240.00 a month. hmmm.... over 24 months
that is $2160.00.
The iphone will not shoot video, still can not do GPS, still has no live TV, and runs on a slower network.
Do I love my instinct? YES! Is it way better than the iphone?! In a lot of ways. In a lot of ways it's not. The problem at DIGG, is that every time someone says something about the Jesus phone it fails to stay objective.
My instinct has some stuff that seems a little buggy from time to time, but no deal breakers for me. With the phone being less than a month old, I have high expectations that there will be plenty of upgrade, updates, and 3rd party software.
The instinct isn't an iphone killer, because you can't kill the fan-boys. The Instinct is its own device that happens to be full touch screen. It does everything I want and need, I like it better than what the other competitors offer. Not to mention, the rate plan fits my budget and needs. This is a win for Sprint any way you look at it.
I am very excited to see the 3G iphone and all the apps coming to it, it's just not for me, and never will be. - Clodhopper, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5I don't think you said iPhone enough times.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/05/2008, -5/+9Every ***** phone with a rectangular screen is going to be called an iPhone ripoff. Every music player that fits in your pocket is going to be called an iPod ripoff.
Any attempt at making an Operating System look pretty is going to be called an OSX ripoff.
Vista's search feature is older than spotlight, but it's still a ripoff. The sidebar widgets yahoo had first but their still ripping off Apple. Granted they definitely do rip people off, but people go too far. - josereyes0, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4There is something to be said about providing you the wealth of information of the internet in your pocket and accessible at any time.
- coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Well, there's Open Moko, a linux phone project available now. Windows Mobile used in a large sum of phones for years, and UMPCs got overshadowed by Netops, or whatever they call those really small laptops.
What you have to understand is microsoft is a company know for making SOFTware. It dables into software occasionally. A few great periferials here and there (mice and keyboard lines are great). The suprise sensation, Xbox. and the awkward zune, that's holding itself up. But there is no Microsoft Computer. There's Windows for all PCs. Just like there Windows Mobile for all Smartphones. Microsoft doesn't want to make an iPhone competitor. they want to make what they already made better, Windows Mobile. - franklymister, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4That says a lot about Samsung that one of the most viable competitors to their Instinct is one of their own models.
One reason Apple succeeds the way it does is that they know how to focus on one product at a time. If they made thirty different phones, each one would have something good going for it, but none would get the attention needed to be brilliant. If Samsung could just get out of their own way, and let their designers and engineers make one amazing thing, they might have a chance.
As it is, the best thing you can say about the Omnia is that it's more like an iPhone than the Instinct is. - MtheoryX, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5I'm pretty much an apple kinda guy; however, that piece of ***** Samsung is not, not, NOT remotely as nice as the Zune (either version, even in brown, included).
- rimantas, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3Except Google does not know how to make hardware. Apple does.
- dafragsta, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6I called Sprint to see if my contract was up. It is. I asked about the price of the Instinct and if I could get a deal for renewing, out of curiosity, and then came the hard sell. "Oh, it's actually better than the iphone." to which I replied "That's definitely debatable. It doesn't have user made applications or a full featured web browser, which is pretty much the only reason I want an iPhone. Nevermind."
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3All I can say about those Windows Mobile 7 screenshots is they look.. vaguely familiar.
- CaptainStone, on 07/05/2008, -5/+8iphone still does not support the regualar bluetooth profiles.
- coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3Make it a circle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WazA77xcf0A - thatsmyaibo, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3I will be canceling my contract but the phone has a 30 day return on it. I just sold my prior phone (Palm Treo 755p) for $250 on eBay which will go towards the early termination fee.
If you want to be smart with your cell phones, buy a new one every year. Keep your phone in good shape with the original box. Sell your phone on eBay when you are ready to upgrade. When you buy a new one, demand the 'new user' price or you will take your business elsewhere. People on eBay will pay top dollar for phones. I haven't spent money out of pocket for a new phone for the 10+ years I was with Sprint. Just keep flipping them. - knightboat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3"Or maybe, just maybe"
I stopped reading there. Don't pull out that arrogant, cliche garbage. - PhishTahko, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4People are living on credit. When money's tight, borrow some more!
- Morky, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6Er, an iPhone that attempts to compete with BB hasn't even been released yet. Next week...
- coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3sorry, dabbles into Hardware occasionally. To put it bluntly Microsoft doesn't make computers they make windows os. As they won't make phones, they'll make windows mobile os.
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