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Samsung Instinct Just Only Looks Like an iPhone

washingtonpost.com — Sprint Nextel's Samsung Instinct bears a resemblance to Apple's iPhone. But the Instinct doesn't come with features to rival those of the iPhone. Nor does its price, $229.99 before a $100 mail-in rebate with a two-year contract, offer a big discount over of Apple's creation.

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  • RidgeWalker76, on 07/05/2008, -19/+68My friend just got one of these. It doesn't compare to an iPhone, Samsung rushed a cheapened impression of the iPhone to the market. The software is glitchy, and no where near as polished as the iPhones. It's going to require some real effort produce a product the bests the iPhone.
    • thatsmyaibo, on 07/05/2008, -10/+23It certainly isn't the iPhone but I have one and I really enjoy it. I have yet to have a glitch, the internet is really fast and the GPS blows the iPhone Google Maps GPS out of the water (it uses TeleNav turn by turn with voice). The look and touch interface may resemble the iPhone's but this is a really good phone with its own personality. I pay $70/mo for 450 minutes and unlimited data AND SMS messaging and dev kits are being sent out for more apps. If you want a damn good phone for $130 it's worth it but don't expect it to be an iPhone. It's not quite there.

      That being said, I plan on leaving Sprint on the 11th for the 3G iPhone because the Instinct is not Mac compatible and I want to consolidate my iPod Touch with my phone.
      • sstidman, on 07/05/2008, -2/+31Wait, didn't the Instinct come out very recently? Your telling me that you just spent $120+ on a new phone and in 6 days you plan to throw it away and spend another few hundred $ on a different phone?

        I wish I had money to burn like that.
      • aspec, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6@sstidman

        I think he has intentions on returning the phone and paying the first month's service.

        If he canceled his contract, he'd have to pay an early termination fee, too.
      • thatsmyaibo, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3I will be canceling my contract but the phone has a 30 day return on it. I just sold my prior phone (Palm Treo 755p) for $250 on eBay which will go towards the early termination fee.

        If you want to be smart with your cell phones, buy a new one every year. Keep your phone in good shape with the original box. Sell your phone on eBay when you are ready to upgrade. When you buy a new one, demand the 'new user' price or you will take your business elsewhere. People on eBay will pay top dollar for phones. I haven't spent money out of pocket for a new phone for the 10+ years I was with Sprint. Just keep flipping them.
      • dhoonlee, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1That's a clever tactic. At the same time, sounds like quite a bit of work.
    • stupidStan, on 07/05/2008, -12/+27praise apple + put down competing product = easy diggs
      • lamiaconfitor, on 07/05/2008, -4/+6I didn't know there were that many people with way too much money then anything resembling practical, reasonable thinking. Economic crisis my ass, when people love their overpriced toys this much, how the hell are we suffering?
      • PhishTahko, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4People are living on credit. When money's tight, borrow some more!
    • ZenMojo, on 07/05/2008, -10/+6Blackberry's been there and done that for cheaper.
    • jo21, on 07/05/2008, -4/+4samsung got other phones on the marker full touch screen,
      like omnia i900 i700

      buth of course americans carriers gets only crap.
      • badqat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Omnia i900 is coming to the United States...on at&t.
    • Clodhopper, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5I don't think you said iPhone enough times.
    • WarezAppz, on 07/05/2008, -9/+5Or maybe, just maybe - they aren't trying to mimic the 'iPhone' maybe they just have a product out there that has some of the same features.

      Everyone assumes every other phone maker on the market is trying to imitate if not 'kill' the iPhone. Please don't flatter yourselves - everyone just wants to cash in on the over-flowing Multi-purpose mobile phone market right now.
      • GoldenChaos, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9Uh... the Instinct's entire ad campaign was called "Instinct vs. iPhone." The device's existance is validated by the iPhone and its need to compete with it - when the product its commercials state it was designed to compete with falls drastically short, naturally users will be critical about false advertising.
      • knightboat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3"Or maybe, just maybe"

        I stopped reading there. Don't pull out that arrogant, cliche garbage.
    • MadFlava, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6I just left ATT for Sprint, ditching my iPhone in the process. Initially I went with the Instinct and the OP is right. It's really nothing special. The browser is slow and doesnt have NEAR enough screen real estate to be useful. It's also slow, not much faster than EDGE on the iPhone.

      Also, email cant be read in landscape mode so it's REALLY cramped. Since web browsing and email are what I really needed the phone for anyway, it was kind of a deal breaker for me. I kept it for 2 days and returned it for a Mogul.
    • brundlefly76, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2how come no one ever talks about live tv on the instinct?
      its the only feature im really interested in.
  • stormbreaker, on 07/05/2008, -11/+4I just saw a commercial for this one at lunch today... I thought it was a new iPhone commercial up until the very end when it said Sprint!
  • bignah, on 07/05/2008, -6/+0Interesting, and the rumored data plans for it on bell aren't all that bad, but for me at least it isn't worth paying the $400 early termination fee i would have to to leave rogers.
  • Lasha, on 07/05/2008, -14/+13Is it me or are R&D departments becoming outrageously stupid at these companies?

    This is officially the best worst failure to beat the iPhone. PPFT!!!
    • Rudegar, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8R&D's never set the schedules
      product mangers and marketing people do that
    • Drizzit, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2Just look at Verizon. "Full HTML Browswer" it's the same crappy browser that shipped with the Voyager. Guess what, it's not improved in their new phones either.


      Talk about blowing chances on the iPhone 3 times.


      Best network my arse. Get some phones Verizon. Blackberry's developer's for external apps are pretty much non existant. It's all crap.
  • macmangb, on 07/05/2008, -21/+10Poor quality, crashes all the time, cheap asian parts, no osx support... why is this better than an iPhone?

    People need to understand that the iPhone is like an Apple Mac, you can copy bits and pieces you like into another product but you will never get the same 'just works' feel that makes it superior in the first place. It is the wonderful interface and ease of use that makes all Apple products better.

    ~Garry
    • duckyinc, on 07/05/2008, -14/+9>People need to understand that the iPhone is like an Apple Mac

      Probably why the Iphone attracts idiots, after all it "just" works..
    • Ford_Prefect2nd, on 07/05/2008, -10/+6I have had a windows box run for over a year consecutively, my roommate's mac book air started crashing when he had the audacity to install firefox. Macs are nice products, their hardware is very pretty, but their not so stable as to say they "just work" all the time. Nor do all other OS's pale in comparison. My Sony Clie worked wonderfully for 5 years, think it crashed 4 times in that span.
      The fact that you can even say that ANY companies products are "all" better then their competitors proclaims your undeniable fanboyness.
      • freediverx, on 07/05/2008, -8/+7No platform is perfect. But it is almost universally acknowledged by now that Macs are significantly better designed, easier to use, more secure, and more reliable than their Windows counterparts. The only folks who publicly disagree with this are either those with a vested interest in prolonging the Windows monopoly or those who are paid to do so.

        Don't take my word for it...
        http://gizmodo.com/342920/holy-crap-did-bill-gates ...



      • pentiumii, on 07/05/2008, -5/+1cute video i thought it was funny

        that being said as for mac being more stable and more secure that's kinda of a grey area

        if u r talking about mac os in general since it is a unix based system then yes it is more secure and more stable since unix is the most stable environment around


        but if u r referring to apple added software such as itunes and safari and quick time then no

        all three the apps have been regular exploited on mac computer by hacker for a wile now


        there r a few reason y and couple aren't apple fault

        such as the flash exploited that was used to hack the mac air that's not really apple doing it's a adobe flaw but never less hacker find it easier to exploit apps them selfs instead of targeting whole systems


        and becuz of apple easy of use policy and how they just want every thing to work with no human interaction u will see more more exploited aim to mac world

        and seeing how hacker r starting to get away from mail ware and so forth and on to more web base attracts u still wont ever see a virus but dont need a virus hack a computer

        when just viewing flash or using java on a web Paige can give hacker all the access they need

        and yes most them type exploits will be cross platform but as windows user r more use to having security issues from the past and tend to take more steps in preventing the things like disabling flash and only allowing java on web pages they trust it less of a threat then it is to the average mac user
        as most mac user by default don't even trun their firewall on and r not use to having to take them extra steps in security it will be more a problem mac in the near future wel actually it is kinda of issue now


        and before u all get your panties in bunch cuz i said mac have security flaws i do own mac out the 6 computer i own 2 r macs i don't hate them i
      • Ford_Prefect2nd, on 07/05/2008, -2/+3"The only folks who publicly disagree with this are either those with a vested interest in prolonging the Windows monopoly or those who are paid to do so."
        Well then where the heck is my cheque???
        I have two roomates and one likes mac and the other two of us think mac has its place, but would never own one. You might want to look up the word universal, now you did preface it with "almost" to give you some wiggle room, but you may notice that about half the people commenting don't see it that way. I (like most people on digg) spend a lot of time with people who work with computers and though I acknowledge that many more of them are using Macs these days, most still use pc's and of the ones using Macs all but one has a PC too. So much for almost universal, unless we're all getting paid, man Microsoft must have a lot of money to be paying nearly everyone I know. Think of all the money they must be spending on the gaming community alone, phew, its amazing Bill has any money left.
        I previously to disliked macs, but its the fanboys that made me hate em. The last time I had one of these discussions the mac fanboy said that macs never crash, its third party software that does... well, if you never installed anything but MS software on your pc, I imagine they would be nice and stable too. However, having so much selection when it comes to software, purchased and open source, I tend to like to not have my pc manufacturer choose whats safe for me to play with, when Dell does that its considered rude. As for secure, last I checked if I wanted a secure OS Vista 64 is SAFER then mac, at least according to Steve Gibson and the malware databases agree. Mac is winning more of the market and users are slowly learning that their security was obscurity, not a well made OS. I'm sure your happy with your Mac, but you like your PC too (cus I bet you use one) and if you don't that's fine. But don't go about saying that the ONLY people who like Windows more have vested interests, blatant lying does not help your argument (especially when the person your arguing with, is himself evidence to the contrary). QED
  • harryterry, on 07/05/2008, -14/+2Keep it on one page.....

    So many people are lining up to buy a new touch-screen wireless phone that the carrier selling it can't keep up with demand.
    No, not that one.
    The popularity of Sprint Nextel's Samsung Instinct -- the company says its first-week sales beat those of all its other broadband-capable phones -- represents a bit of a puzzler.
    Yes, this device bears a resemblance to Apple's iPhone. But the Instinct doesn't come with features to rival those of the iPhone. Nor does its price, $229.99 before a $100 mail-in rebate with a two-year contract, offer a big discount over of Apple's creation.
    Like many phones, the Instinct looks much better than it works. A polished slab about half an inch thick and weighing only 4.4 ounces, this smartphone dispenses with almost all of the standard buttons, save a few on the sides that perform such basic tasks as turning it on and adjusting its volume, in favor of a large touch-sensitive screen that fills most of its face.
    That roomy display, more than 3 inches diagonally, allows for on-screen buttons that even thicker fingers should be able to hit. And you can scroll through its contacts and recent-calls lists with a flick of a finger -- though a search function is missing. You can also call somebody without lifting a finger by using the Instinct's voice dialing.
    Its on-screen slider controls -- for instance, turning on its built-in speaker phone or ending a call requires you to move your finger across an image of a switch -- can prevent you from hanging up on the boss after poking the wrong button on the keypad or the screen.
    The Instinct also slays voice mail as Sprint users have known it with a "visual voice mail" display that lets you see who left a message and when, then play their recordings back in any sequence you desire.
    Sprint advertises more than five hours of talk time, but even the nearly 4.5 hours an Instinct loaned by Sprint achieved compares well to many other phones.
    The Instinct comes with a long inventory of added capabilities: Web browsing, e-mail, text/picture/video messaging, digital music and video playback, photography and video recording, GPS navigation and so on. But it fumbles most of these more ambitious tasks.
    Start with its on-screen keyboard, which offers neither effective spell-checking nor tactile feedback, ensuring plenty of typos.
    The Instinct also doesn't make enough use of its mobile broadband Internet access (limited to Sprint's coverage, as the Instinct lacks a WiFi receiver). Its Web browser struggles as much with full-size sites as the antiquated software on Palm OS phones, taking an irritatingly long time to display some of them. Its e-mail software ignores Web formatting in messages and can't read PDF attachments, one of the most common kinds of files to arrive in a message.
    This phone also doesn't work as an organizer for your life. Although the crude Windows software Sprint includes can synchronize your Outlook Express or Outlook contacts list (something that required a 14-minute call to tech support in my case), Sprint doesn't let you do the same with your computer's calendar or notes. And there's no to-do list.
    The Instinct handles multimedia only slightly better than productivity. It can serve as a decent photo viewer and music and video player, but its Internet TV service suffers from awful picture quality, and the music store sells iPod-incompatible files. And the 2 gigabytes of MicroSD card storage won't last long.
    The phone's mapping software can issue driving directions in moments, but those are becoming standard features -- and other phones' navigation services offer walking and biking directions, too.
    And because you can't add software of your own, you're out of options to make this would-be smartphone anymore intelligent.
    So what makes the Instinct worthy of any fuss? Two things come to mind.
    One is Sprint's blessedly simple pricing plans, all of which feature unlimited Internet use, text/picture/video messaging, navigation assistance, and Sprint's online music and video feeds, leaving your only option how many weekday minutes to buy: $69.99 a month gets you 450, $89.99 includes 900, and $99.99 allows unlimited calls.
    The other is choice. The iPhone is an amazing machine -- and the iPhone 3G, due next week, looks to match its earlier success. But in the United States, Apple has chosen to handcuff the iPhone to a single provider, AT&T Wireless. What if AT&T's coverage excludes your home or office? What if its prices, policies or service already turned you against it?
    A phone like the Instinct can be a fair compromise for people looking to use a smartphone for entertainment, not productivity. It provides some of the things you might have hoped to get in an iPhone and does so with more flair than a BlackBerry, Palm or Windows Mobile phone. That's no ringing endorsement, but it is what can pass for progress in the wireless market.
  • Niz1, on 07/05/2008, -23/+44About the title, if going by that logic apple just copied just about every PDA.
    • OpaqueMurdock, on 07/05/2008, -13/+18Not to be a total freak... but what did every PDA copy?

      Thats right, a little gizmo some of us recall as a Newton.

      You can't really play the "iPhone copies other smart phones and PDAs" game with Apple since most PDAs started as essentially knock offs of the Message Pad 100. There were other "electronic organizers" before the newton, but these were very rudimentary. The MP 100 started the trend of serious "palm computing" and every device that has a similar form factor or functionality be it an iPhone, treo, or this wacky thing, is a decedent of it to some degree.

      Apple should be expected build a phone that is also a great PDA/handheld computer... and they can't be blamed if people don't recall that they invented the marked that eventually spawned such "smart phones".
    • CasaMan, on 07/05/2008, -10/+18"The term PDA was first used on January 7, 1992 by Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton." - wikipedia
      • jo21, on 07/05/2008, -14/+6oh you should write a thesis and put wikipedia as your source,
        it will make it look more professional
      • mrBitch, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1@jo21, nice try but it looks like CasaMan ate your lunch. you got ZINGED man!
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/05/2008, -5/+9Every ***** phone with a rectangular screen is going to be called an iPhone ripoff. Every music player that fits in your pocket is going to be called an iPod ripoff.

      Any attempt at making an Operating System look pretty is going to be called an OSX ripoff.

      Vista's search feature is older than spotlight, but it's still a ripoff. The sidebar widgets yahoo had first but their still ripping off Apple. Granted they definitely do rip people off, but people go too far.
      • mrBitch, on 07/05/2008, -8/+7RE : "Vista's search feature is older than spotlight... "
        You are wrong there. Spotlight was a feature already running in OSX Tiger in April 2005.

        Vista went RTFM in Nov 2006 (actual release to consumers was Jan 2007).
      • petard, on 07/05/2008, -4/+7Vista's search feature was previewed long ago before it was in Tiger.
      • r3zonance, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Vista's search is nowhere near as good as Spotlight.

        In the same way that "previous versions" is nowhere even close to Time machine. Yes they are both versioning/backup utilities, however Time Machine is infinitely more useful.
      • mrBitch, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1re: "Vista's search is nowhere near as good as Spotlight."

        Agreed, I have a Vista Ultimate and an XP installation (as well as Linux Mint) running on my MacBook.

        Vista search is far superior to the sad "search" that was part of the XP install - however OSX Spotlight beats the crap out of Vista's current search implementation (maybe MS will fix it in a service pack?)
      • mrBitch, on 07/31/2008, -0/+1@petard RE: "Vista's search feature was previewed long ago before it was in Tiger."

        Now you're just plain making ***** up. Google it and get back to me you idiot.
  • yeskia, on 07/05/2008, -21/+22Looks like ***** to me.
    • colourclassic, on 07/05/2008, -4/+11I got your back man: it does.
    • punkcat, on 07/05/2008, -8/+42 GB is plenty of storage and it comes with Sprint TV. i dont see what the complaint is.
      • luchid, on 07/05/2008, -4/+32 GB is plenty of storage? Really? Do you have dial up, too? Oh and LOL @ Sprint TV. Have fun with no Wifi, too.
      • malcolmboston, on 07/05/2008, -3/+52gb is plenty? im using 7 on my iPhone and am desperate for more
      • Snokage, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1micro SD cards?
      • punkcat, on 07/06/2008, -2/+1dudes, i was being sarcastic.
  • FUO213, on 07/05/2008, -19/+28Sorry guys, i know i sound like an "apple fan boy" but i really don't think that any phone company will ever best the iphone. i mean, so far all that has come out of all of the copies are a lot of ***** iPhone look alikes that don't run a custom os that have glitches and not nearly the capabilities of what the iPhone has now. Now that 3g and GPS are in the picture, it would take a miracle to best the iPhone.
    • whereiseljefe, on 07/05/2008, -20/+13My Blackberry 8800 still has a physical keyboard and still gets signal where my friend's iPhone's just give up and die. It "just works(tm)".
      • senatorpjt, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7The onscreen keyboard works so well for me at this point, I think the added weight and lost screen real-estate wasted on a physical keyboard isn't a feature.
      • jbella, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Funny. My iphone onscreen keyboard works great and it still gets signal where my friends Blackberry 8800 just give up and die.

        So what have we proven?

        Anecdotal evidence is almost meaningless.
    • voodoozombie, on 07/05/2008, -13/+7Best the iPhone? My phone kicks its ass simply because I dont need iTunes.
    • jo21, on 07/05/2008, -6/+13have you seen the nokia n-series?

      nokia is famous in europe +asia for its userfriendly interfaces
      sadly they didnt had many touchscreen phones (only 2) until recently.

      that and hardware like the nokia in the nokia n95/n96/n82 5mpx xenon flash 3.5g wifi VGA 30fps video recording, powerVR graphic.

      nokia just need to join those 2.

      it won't take a miracle just nokia to move up faster.
      • Morky, on 07/05/2008, -4/+15Yes, we have seen the n-series. The software sucks. It's not about feature count, it's about software.
      • waydee, on 07/05/2008, -8/+6The n-series software sucks? it runs S60, the exact same software as any other modern Nokia smartphone. Thousands of applications, nice and mature and waaaay more features than the iPhone.

        The iPhone is lacking features for no apparent reason, even basic stuff like copy/paste functionality. Why? Why cant I send files using bluetooth? Why cant I MMS? Why is the camera so bad? Haven't Apple seen the way every manufacturer is including a camera on par with a standalone digital camera these days? Why isn't there even a flash? Wheres the front facing camera? - you know like every 3G phone has featured since about 2003.

        Really all the iPhone has going for it is its touchscreen but even that becomes very annoying after a while, its useless for texting with at any sort of decent speed. Nokia have been making phones for a long time and in the markets where people know whats important in a phone they lead the pack for good reason. The iPhone was built for a US market which is stuck in a time warp it seems with very little concern given to the mobile phone habits of the rest of the world, as a result it will fail in this version just as it did in its last.


      • luchid, on 07/05/2008, -3/+5"it runs S60, the exact same software as any other modern Nokia smartphone"ç

        That's no indication of quality.

        ". Thousands of applications, nice and mature and waaaay more features than the iPhone. "

        Quality > Quantity

        "Why is the camera so bad?"

        Cause I'm not poor and I can afford a nice compact P&S that will take 100x better pictures than 100% of the phones out there.
      • r3zonance, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2"nokia is famous in europe +asia for its userfriendly interfaces"

        I really hope you accidentally forgot the "sarcasm" tag. Nokia's UIs suck ass. They are slow, clunky and there is never enough RAM to play back videos without a reboot (at least on the N95).
    • CaptainStone, on 07/05/2008, -5/+8iphone still does not support the regualar bluetooth profiles.
    • PrometheusBorn, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2You're right. The reason is, is that companies won't be able to be even in the same ballpark as the iPhone until they figure out how to do software. Everything to this point has been an attempt to make the touchscreen thing a gimmick rather than something actually helpful. When Android comes out and Samsung can release a phone that works with THAT, then we might see some real competition.

      Until then, I have to decide if I want to drop my current iPhone for a new iPhone.
  • brickbat, on 07/05/2008, -3/+2bears? Hmm.
  • Mickeh65, on 07/05/2008, -15/+3LET'S ALL RUSH OUT AND BUY THIS YOU GUISE!!!111one122!!11eleven1!!1!

    /sarcasm
  • serpentor, on 07/05/2008, -4/+18The web browser on this is absolutely horrendous. Choppy, laggy, poor rendering, etc. It's so far removed from the web experience on the iphone that any fair comparison is impossible.

    What's worse is Opera Mini doesn't detect the touch keyboard thus rendering it useless (OMini on this would be very nice). Lastly, Sprint backpeddled on their support of SERO customers who bought the Instinct, first allowing it, then ordering all of them to either return it or be *forced* onto a different (much more expensive) 'Simple Everything' plan. Bad move..
    • System6, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2There is no suitible version of Opera out fo this. So you got a version to work? COOL! It's not made for it, no wonder it has bugs!.


      SERO customers tired to ignore Sprints instructions that it could not go on SERO. You got a noobie rep who did it, you broke the rules, youkno it. Get on with your life.....
      • serpentor, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1Nope, I just used the phone for 5 minutes in the store and had enough of it. The SERO story is what's been causing havoc on the Sprint forums lately. I don't blame Sprint in the least for requiring a non-SERO plan (it had to end someday), I only blame them for the initial backpeddling.
  • SaladCactusKing, on 07/05/2008, -1/+23I don't give a ***** about the phone itself, but that commercial they play before the movie trailers is just ***** infuria-RAGGGGHRRRRRRRRRRRRG
    • SaladCactusKing, on 07/05/2008, -1/+17To be fair, it's not as bad as "Ashton's Cool Pix" which may or may not have led me to murder three hookers and keep them in my cellar for a month only to then skin them and make a ladysuit for myself.
      • nmnnotmyname, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9^ Whoever Dugg this down has no sense of humor.
      • MtheoryX, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8You say that as if you're supposed to do something else with hookers.
    • punkcat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2still worse is Moviephone where the guy breaks his bones jumping from roof to roof to get tickets.


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    *kills another hooker*

    Goddammit, not again! ***** media.
  • bud38, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10Just Only? WTF?
  • VinnieDaMac, on 07/05/2008, -10/+12This makes me lose a little respect for Samsung.
  • bxblox, on 07/05/2008, -6/+19FTA: "Start with its on-screen keyboard, which offers neither effective spell-checking nor tactile feedback"

    Yea, because what touch screen phone these days comes without tactile feedback. amirite?
    • jo21, on 07/05/2008, -4/+6sony ericsson phones comes with tactic feedback

      its called haptic...
      and its going to be used by nokia too.
      • Morky, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8..and it sucks.
      • SPECOPS, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1if you call getting a slight vibration (from the same thing that vibrates when you have the ringer off) when you type on a virtual key tactic feedback, then I guess so, good for Sony and Nokia - but really, I've used it on demo phones & it seems gimmicky as you have to look at the keyboard anyway - I mean, the iPhone (and others) give you a sound when you "type" on a key, and also zoom the key up and above your finger so you know you got the right one ---- I'd rather not waste my battery on such gimmicks that don't really help.
    • StandardsDT, on 07/05/2008, -2/+3LG Voyager has tactile like feedback on it's touch screen, well if you can call VibeTouch that. Though I only use it to navigate the menu's, it is helpful for the times that I do use the touch screen to text, other than that the keyboard is the way to go.
  • Rotzooi, on 07/05/2008, -8/+3The Samsung iNstinct - I see what they did there. ... or do I?
  • coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -6/+8It seemed like this had hope, but it died down. The only way to beat the iphone is to have the software work for the hardware, and make it work well with specific hardware instead of being open to all hardware developers. That's been apple's philosophy since day one. That's where all cellphone makers are flawed, they make half assed attempts at an OS or allow a generic OS to rule them all (that would be you Verizon!). I'm interested in what Windows Mobile 7 has to offer. The released screenshots are very interesting

    http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008 ... .
    Windows Mobile 7 is probably the best chance to "beat" the iphone, but WM7 will be spread on multiple devices, touchscreen and smartphone alike. In today standards only computer software companies stand a chance in making great cellphones. Ironically enough, I think the better iphone combatant is samsung's own i900 Omnia. Definitely better OS with WM6.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Ky6nwR8ms

    btw, read the part about the interactive lock screens, they totaly bash iphone for having a dull lock screen. These lock screens are really cool!.
    • jo21, on 07/05/2008, -4/+1symbian still owns 73%+ of the smartphone marketshare.

      saying iphone os its the best its like saying the same

      as mac os x to windows.

      92% will disagree with you ;)
      • coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4I never said iphone OS was the best, I actually really don't like the interface. I was saying generic cell phones have half assed OS made by their creators or by the phone company.

        iPhone just so happens to have OS in mind which makes it desireable. Symbian and Windows Mobile have the problem of fitting into hardware developers needs, but I like symbian too. Wonder how nokia buying them is gonna turn out since now they'll be in direct cooperation with hardware and software.
      • Morky, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4Not really. While there are some nice Symbian phones out there, Symbian hasn't established itself as a platform that programmers want to develop for. There is no dominant platform yet for smartphones. It's really a playing field that is up for grabs. In the long term, there will be something to compete with iPhone OS, but I doubt it will be Symbian. Android or an an improved Windows Mobile are more likely possibilities.
    • senatorpjt, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3All I can say about those Windows Mobile 7 screenshots is they look.. vaguely familiar.
    • Xsecrets, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2the only chance to match or beat the iphone certainly doesn't come from microsoft, every version of windows moble has been utter crap, and that's not about to change now.

      Android it the best hope for an iphone killer
  • PixC, on 07/05/2008, -10/+2A phone is a phone. All these mainstream BS make you buy things you don't need.
    • wacomwacoff, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6People who think the iPhone is "just a phone" are speaking out of ignorance.
    • josereyes0, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4There is something to be said about providing you the wealth of information of the internet in your pocket and accessible at any time.
  • s4g4n, on 07/05/2008, -9/+3This is zune vs ipod all over again.
    • Ignignokt01, on 07/05/2008, -6/+10Except that the Zune is a pretty good piece of hardware, and the software aint half bad either.

      This phone is just rubbish, when you compare it to an iPhone.

      Just buy a blackberry if you can't get an iphone, or don't want one.
      • coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -5/+2iI second that. I own a zune 80 and it's pretty good. Hasn't failed me yet. The first zune though with the first software, that's this intinct phone, something to get into the market and dwell on making better later.
    • MtheoryX, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5I'm pretty much an apple kinda guy; however, that piece of ***** Samsung is not, not, NOT remotely as nice as the Zune (either version, even in brown, included).
  • GermanChocolate, on 07/05/2008, -6/+4Did anyone else notice that Sprint iNstinct is trying to get you to sell out and do a product placement for them for $20...? They claim for gas money in an advert. I don't know what kind of car they can fill up with $20 worth of gas but....

    The ad on their site is despicable and gut wrenching. The people that do this are just lemmings and are complete sell outs, which is much worse (in my opinion) than being a fanboy.

    I would say that iPhone owners (original and new 3g, when it's released) should product place the iPhone and submit it to Sprint because of their constant missteps in this product.

    Like the iNstinct commercial that got cut, ripping on the iPhone. Just another example of someone not innovating and playing catch up. Don't copy create something completely new!
    Okay off the soap box.
    • Snokage, on 07/05/2008, -1/+1Umm, so sprint is stupid for having people place their product in random places....and then paying the average Joe 20 bucks? And you think that’s stupid.
      And your spelling of the Instinct is just further credit your bias.
      Question, what does it smell like up there in Jobs' ass?
    • GermanChocolate, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1Like kittens and puppies and candy stores.
  • webterractive, on 07/05/2008, -9/+4True everyone is copying the iPhone trying to best it, just like iPhone is trying to best the Blackberry to no avail.
    • Morky, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6Er, an iPhone that attempts to compete with BB hasn't even been released yet. Next week...
  • Galaxylander, on 07/05/2008, -2/+12All of these companies should stop trying to 'kill' the iPhone and make replacements for it and try to make something better that's *not* an iPhone imitator. Apple knows what they're doing with the browser, the OS and the design because that's what they've been doing for years and years and years. Nokia, Samsung- all those companies have been making phones and terrible mobile OSs for years. iPhone shook the mobile phone industry because it was a quality transition from a computer operating system to a cellular phone operating system. Apple pulled it off because they know how to make an OS and a browser, and a photo app.. all of that stuff.
    • neil1492, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3I can't even think of a company who has the power to do that...other than Google. All of the major cell phone makers are a drop in the bucket compared to Apple.
      • rimantas, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3Except Google does not know how to make hardware. Apple does.
  • kevnaca, on 07/05/2008, -10/+6There is one key aspect of the iPhone vs all other phone debate. What about the syncing software? iTunes is simple and has everything you need to get music and videos easily synced to the iPhone. I dunno what Sprint has, prolly some ugly Windowz software that's pretty so so, but iTunes and the iPhone is very easy and natural. Sprint just wanted to quickly bash the iPhone by pushing a device that has features not really properly bug tested.
    • coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -4/+2Thing is I don't think it has syncing software. They're expecting users to download from the online store and use their sd cards to transfer their music. I think the thing with sprint is that they see money in look alikes. The Sanyo Katana did quite well for sprint. SANYO! I personally had one, it was okay, it was half assed attempt at the razr. Really basic phone, just looked kinda cool. But seeing how well the Instinct is doing it's no wonder why they wouldn't care. As long as they're selling. It's not so much of being able to sync up media that makes the iphone great, it's the overall wow, hype, a ease factors along with it being a great media player. In the instincts case, it's not what the phone does, it what the plan has to offer, the Unlimited 99 plan is simple and desireable, and makes sense with what the instinct has to offer.
  • lamiaconfitor, on 07/05/2008, -3/+4Is there really all that much you can do to make a big touch screen look any different?
  • nmnnotmyname, on 07/05/2008, -6/+2This is really sad. You can probably build a better machine by hand and then run Linux on it.

    Or you can just stick with the iPhone. So why doesn't Microsoft have a phone yet? They already have decent UMPCs or so I've heard.
    • coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Well, there's Open Moko, a linux phone project available now. Windows Mobile used in a large sum of phones for years, and UMPCs got overshadowed by Netops, or whatever they call those really small laptops.
      What you have to understand is microsoft is a company know for making SOFTware. It dables into software occasionally. A few great periferials here and there (mice and keyboard lines are great). The suprise sensation, Xbox. and the awkward zune, that's holding itself up. But there is no Microsoft Computer. There's Windows for all PCs. Just like there Windows Mobile for all Smartphones. Microsoft doesn't want to make an iPhone competitor. they want to make what they already made better, Windows Mobile.
      • coasterfreak212, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3sorry, dabbles into Hardware occasionally. To put it bluntly Microsoft doesn't make computers they make windows os. As they won't make phones, they'll make windows mobile os.
      • nmnnotmyname, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I got that, but Microsoft doesn't seem to be in this at all - you'd think they'd try to collaborate. They did make a video game console mind you.

        Not saying i support the development of an MS phone, but they did the Zune, so why not...
  • Rudegar, on 07/05/2008, -5/+4imho trying to make a phone look like another phone hardwarewise or software wise is kinda like dragqueens only the ones who really want to be will be fooled
    everybody else will see the big fat adams apple :P
  • dafragsta, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6I called Sprint to see if my contract was up. It is. I asked about the price of the Instinct and if I could get a deal for renewing, out of curiosity, and then came the hard sell. "Oh, it's actually better than the iphone." to which I replied "That's definitely debatable. It doesn't have user made applications or a full featured web browser, which is pretty much the only reason I want an iPhone. Nevermind."
    • waydee, on 07/05/2008, -5/+3Neither does the iPhone unless you jailbreak it.

      Get an N96, you'll thank me.
      • badqat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1Do you have a CDMA radio for that N96?
    • cleverboy, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Actually, iPhone does have user made applications. They're just web-based. The "native" applications you may be referring to are coming in... oh, 7 days. And they already exist (many even through unofficial outlets), but they simply haven't been officially "launched" yet. Whether its pulling movie ticket info, browsing the news, or checking the latest comicbook releases... I actually prefer a web app too. On the N96? Good luck with web apps. Everything look like it was programmed for your cable box and "flicking" is no where near a system wide means of navigation whether in your contacts or on the web.

      With a stylus or my fingernail? Sorry, but while N96 may have a neat feature list, its useability is still in the "geek" class. Be sure to check your service costs too with your carrier. At the end of the day, AppStore is going to add a lot of choice to this comparison. Compliments to Nokia... but simplicity, useability, and presentation have NOT been one of their strong suits.
  • spiritd, on 07/05/2008, -8/+9This review is seriously 75% dumbass-ness


    http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t= ...



    Now I don't own an Instinct, however most reviews I've read have been very positive and I think this guy either

    1) Hasn't read the manual

    2) Is an Apple fanboy


    I've researched enough on this phone to know that it is no Apple killer, however it is not some cheap knockoff, and it has a firm OS.
    • Joffroi, on 07/05/2008, -5/+5Agreed, by just simply googling the "Samsung Instinct", you come up with very positive headlines and very positive reviews. Yes, the browser needs work and some other details need to be worked out, but overall its not that bad of a phone from what it sounds. All phones have flaws. Stop trying to compare it to the iPhone. They are just different phones. I hate the cult-like fanatics out there.
      • punkcat, on 07/05/2008, -2/+3would be easier not to compare it to the iPhone if Sprint didnt label it as "better than the iPhone."
        watch their iPhone comparison commercials.
        this phone would have been seen as a nice less expensive alternative likely if they hadn't gone that route.
      • senatorpjt, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4"The browser needs work?" The browser is what makes the iPhone worthwhile, so if the browser is a piece of ***** it's not as good as the iPhone.
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1A billion phones are made each year, and Apple makes only a couple million of them.
    • cleverboy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3Wow, so "very positive reviews" mean you can't say anything bad about it when compared to its chosen competition? If that's the case, no one should EVER say ANYTHING bad about the iPhone... which would be silly. This review was dead on. I actually caught something that was SO insanely disturbing that it made me stop reading the review. --Um, NO Wi-Fi??? That is one of the principle things I love about my iPhone. --Get this... if not only for connection speed... then for networking. Moreover, the new apps that are coming. --Right now, I can VNC to my desktop using over my Wi-Fi network on my existing non-3G iPhone. Instinct? Nope... moreover, probably NEVER.
      • Joffroi, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4The reason you need WiFi on the iPhone is because the internet speed on it otherwise is so amazingly slow. You can also read things about the iPhone that are "insanely disturbing" No MMS??? WTF is up with that.
    • Xsecrets, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1Yes the reviewer shows how bright he is when he says it took a 15 min phone call to support to figure out how to sync the device.
      • mastercheif, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1If a technology writer for the washington post can't figure out how to sync his outlook contacts to the phone, you know you have usability problems.
    • jbella, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1"It has a firm OS."

      If you mean it doesn't crash a lot. Maybe that is true.
      If you mean it's a good quality OS... well I suppose that depends on what you compare it to. Compared to Symbain or PalmOS.. I'm sure it's terrific. Compared to the the iPhone's mobile OSX.. it's seems pretty lacking..
  • mcnasby, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7Looks are cheap. Software is everything. Until these phone manufacturers pony up and develop an operating system that will catch the interest of developers (or even issue an SDK for that matter), there will be no such thing as an iPhone killer. Sure Android might be able to do that -- and I hope they do, I'd love to have a 'Google' phone - but there's nothing at this current time that can compete on with the myriad of opportunities the Apple has created around the iPhone. From a beautiful form factor to a robust SDK - the iPhone has it covered.

    The important issue to consider when thinking about challengers in the iPhone market is the inclusion of the ubiquitous 2-year contract. Phone manufacturers had well over a *YEAR* to make a phone with a better interface and over-all design. The obviously dropped the ball. And now, they're going to have to wait at least 6 months to a year for a prospective/current iPhone consumer to even consider purchasing new phone out-of-pocket.

    My love for what Apple has done is more than superficial. It's love for what they've done to an entire industry. There's absolutely no denying that they lit the much-needed spark under the competing cell phone manufacturers' ass. In the end it will help every consumer in the market for a cell phone.
  • WomensUnderwear, on 07/05/2008, -9/+1***** samsung
  • ripple123, on 07/05/2008, -3/+10my instinct says to not buy this phone. and i always listen to my instinct.
  • harlowsmonkeys, on 07/05/2008, -3/+3Reminds me of a cargo cult.
  • CryoNine, on 07/05/2008, -1/+12I played with this phone in the Sprint store the other day. It's actually really nice hardware-wise, but the software is lacking. The screen responsiveness isn't there, and the design overall is confusing and a step backwards.
  • HiCaP, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2It's the Samsung i900, the Omnia, I would like to see come to sprint. The Omnia may
    give the iPhone a run for the money, at least for those of us where AT&T sucks.
    http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/samsung-i900-om ...
    • franklymister, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4That says a lot about Samsung that one of the most viable competitors to their Instinct is one of their own models.

      One reason Apple succeeds the way it does is that they know how to focus on one product at a time. If they made thirty different phones, each one would have something good going for it, but none would get the attention needed to be brilliant. If Samsung could just get out of their own way, and let their designers and engineers make one amazing thing, they might have a chance.

      As it is, the best thing you can say about the Omnia is that it's more like an iPhone than the Instinct is.
    • badqat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1The Omnia is confirmed to be coming to at&t....so good luck on a CDMA version appearing.
      • HiCaP, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1Ya never know, the HTC Diamond is GSM, but is coming to sprint also.
        In upstate NY it's Sprint or Verizon, I get 15% off monthly with Sprint.
        I just have to play the wait and see game.
      • badqat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2@HiCaP -

        Yes, there have already been shots of the Diamond in Sprint garb released and it's supposed to appear this summer.

        The Diamond is a much more interesting and capable phone than the Instinct. If I were still a Sprint customer, I'd be waiting for it rather than simply plopping down on the Instinct.
      • HiCaP, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1shoot, my other post was to be part of these threads, not enough coffee.
        "The Instinct may be nice for some, just not me"
        I got some time, 5 or 6 months and I may have some options. I've had
        my eye on the Diamond, maybe the Omnia ?. I do like the PDA phones.
        My first was the Samsung I-330, then the 6600 and the 6700. On break
        right now with the Sanyo M-1, but I also have a iPod Touch 1.14 Jailbreak.
  • byoung2, on 07/05/2008, -4/+3The Instinct will obviously never be an iphone, but it does give it a run for its money. The sprint music store is no itunes, but at least you can access it over 3g (iphone only supports itunes on wifi). Besides, you can fill as many 8GB microsd cards as you want with mp3s on the intinct. so the instinct lacks wifi, but with evdo rev a at 1.4-2 Mbps, who needs it? The new iphone is 3g but even at 2.8 times the speed of EDGE, it's only 1/3 the speed of sprint at its slowest. Sprint tv only has youtube quality but 35+ cable channels like cnn, mtv, spike that will never happen on an iphone i'm keeping my instinct.
    • r3zonance, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1"but with evdo rev a at 1.4-2 Mbps, who needs it? The new iphone is 3g but even at 2.8 times the speed of EDGE, it's only 1/3 the speed of sprint at its slowest"

      Don't know where you get your data from. But HSDPA (3G) operates at 1.8/3.6/7.2 MB/sec (although the spec does go down to 0.9MB/sec). Either way your figures are stupendously wrong.
  • HiCaP, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2franklymister, you're 100 percent correct, if AT&T can add some more towers in upstate NY,
    I'd be allover the iPhone. Sprint was in a hurry to get some kind of iPhone type media phone
    out there B-4 the 3G iPhone was released. Sprint knows when the 3G is released,
    a lot of their customers will jump ship.The Instinct may be nice for some, just not me.
    I have till next Dec.or Jan. with contract, anything can happen.
    • badqat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1II think Sprint is trying to make the best out of a bad situation. Back when the RAZR was the rage, Sprint (and Nextel) seemed to be the only carriers in the world without a variant of the phone. So they enlisted Samsung and the A900 to fill the void. The A900 was a pretty decent phone, and was better than anything Motorola had going on with the RAZR, save the choice of a single color.
  • Urkel, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Obviously people here embrace their anger towards everything not made by Apple. But why isn't the fact that Apple chose to do an exclusive agreement with a terrible company taken into consideration? It's not that the instinct is good, it's that it's what is available for people who refuse to let anyone tell them which cell company to use.

    As a long time Sprint customer then I have a plan that blows anything ATT can offer ($65 for 2 lines with unlimited 3G, text, pictures and 1450 minutes). Sure, many sprint customers would love an iPhone but it's not available so to those who can't get an iPhone then the Instinct is better than nothing.
    • badqat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1As a long time Sprint customer, why aren't you raping them with a SERO plan?
    • r3zonance, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1"But why isn't the fact that Apple chose to do an exclusive agreement with a terrible company"

      I don't think it was so much Apple chose, as it was the other carriers weren't prepared to compromise on a deal with Apple and passed on it.
  • InorganicMatter, on 07/05/2008, -3/+2iStink'd?
  • Voodoogmr, on 07/05/2008, -1/+1I just bought an Instinct. Was waiting for the iPhone, but I was able to test out AT&T's service in our area for a few weeks. The voice quality was horrible, no matter what phone I used. Numerous dropped calls too, especially when leaving the 3G coverage area and going into EDGE. Very annoying. If the iPhone was available at Verizon or Sprint, I would get one. No question.

    The Instinct is no iPhone, but it works quite well and does some things better than the iPhone (voice commands, better GPS nav (IMHO), and at least has user-replaceable batteries (and comes with 2 of them). And it has picture messaging out of the box, if that's important to you.

    Also, don't base your opinion on the display models at stores. Both of the Sprint stores I went to had pre-release models on display that were very sluggish. But mine is very responsive and the Web browser is quite fast. It's not perfect, but certainly better than Pocket IE was on my old Moto Q9c.
    • badqat, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1You actually ran IE rather than Opera on your Q? Why?
      • Voodoogmr, on 07/05/2008, -0/+0Oh, I ran Opera too. It was just a pain to use due to having to launch a Java VM first. But mainly because I couldn't use it as my default browser since it wasn't a native app.

        I personally prefer the Instinct's browser to Opera too. But that's just me. Of course, I may change my mind the first time it crashes or won't display a site correctly. So far, that hasn't happened.
  • ShinyDemon, on 07/05/2008, -0/+0@malcolmboston: lol, no expansion card for you!
  • System6, on 07/05/2008, -4/+7OK, Where to begin....

    This Instinct is a whole 20 days old? Samsung released their SDK the DAY it came out. Apps are on the way, as well as bug fixes. To be fair, the Jesus phone didn't have any bugs. (Anyone remember all the people who couldn't get theirs activated through Itunes for days?!)

    It has a full featured web browser, although it needs work. It has HTML, but no flash. Wait a second....no phone has flash except for a few windows based ones that have hacks you say?! TRUE. The Iphone has no flash player either.

    The iphone through AT&T will start at $199.99 each with a 2 year contract. 3G isn't even offered in all markets, not to mention, 3G can be faster than EV-DO Rev. A, but typically is not.

    The Instinct is $129.99, and the everything plan is $99.99 a month. This includes unlimited talking, data, GPS navigation, TV, radio, picture mail, email, and web. It would run about $115.00 a month after tax.

    The iphone is $70.00 more and you would need the unlimited talking plan for $99.99, then add on data, then add on text messaging, etc. After tax the iphone with comparable add ons runs about $160.00.

    The Instinct will activate on standard Sprint everything family plans. You could have 2 instincts with 1500 minutes and unlimited everything else for about $150.00 a month after taxes. (You can add a 3rd, 4th, and 5th to the same plan for only $19.99 More a month.)

    2 iphones with a comparable plan will run about $240.00 a month. hmmm.... over 24 months
    that is $2160.00.

    The iphone will not shoot video, still can not do GPS, still has no live TV, and runs on a slower network.

    Do I love my instinct? YES! Is it way better than the iphone?! In a lot of ways. In a lot of ways it's not. The problem at DIGG, is that every time someone says something about the Jesus phone it fails to stay objective.

    My instinct has some stuff that seems a little buggy from time to time, but no deal breakers for me. With the phone being less than a month old, I have high expectations that there will be plenty of upgrade, updates, and 3rd party software.

    The instinct isn't an iphone killer, because you can't kill the fan-boys. The Instinct is its own device that happens to be full touch screen. It does everything I want and need, I like it better than what the other competitors offer. Not to mention, the rate plan fits my budget and needs. This is a win for Sprint any way you look at it.

    I am very excited to see the 3G iphone and all the apps coming to it, it's just not for me, and never will be.

    • ChairShot83, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1I also have the Instinct and my brother has the iPhone, but I'm the Apple fanboy and he is hardcore PC guy. Kind of an oxymoron, huh?

      I got the Instinct as an alternative to the iPhone, and I am satisfied. I do 'keep it real' so I'm not gunna lie when I say I love the browser. I hate it.

      The one thing that I put the Instinct over the iPhone is the overall size of the phone. After holding the Instinct for a while, the iPhone seemed cumbersome. But I don't knock something because I don't have it.

      Solidarity, men. We're all capable of it.
  • trollick, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Unlike diggers, the rest of people don't know and could not care less what the difference between IPhone and Instinct are, and they have no idea who Steve Jobs is.
  • nitrusoxyde, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Every negative the guy points out on this also effects the iPhone. Wonderful propaganda for AT&T. Personall I think they both suck. iPhone iPhone zomg! Get off the bandwagon and get a cheap phone and an air card.


    ALSO - I could tell this was propaganda the second that they said $129 vs $199 didn't 'offer a big discount over of Apple's creation'. I'm sure 45% isn't a huge deal at all.
  • o0dhacker0o, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Washington Post's journalism is just terrible.

    What a load of *****.
  • alloystudios, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2If Apple hadn't signed that retarded deal with AT&T, these iPhone wannabes wouldn't even be able to exist. But as long as people have to leave their carrier and get in bed with AT&T, these phones will continue to come out. The iPhone is good now, but it's FAR from the perfect phone.

    Most of its problems are AT&T related, but that poor excuse for GPS in the first version is just insulting. You STILL can't shoot video which is dumb as hell and any $100 phone can do. I had an iPhone when it first came out and loved the interface design, but the lack of GPS just turned me off. Now I have a Motorola Q9c which has a much worse browser, but real GPS, has fully customizable graphics if you hack WM6, and opens PDF and Word documents.

    I have a Mac Pro that I love and even Apple stock. And Apple is definitely on the right track, but the iPhone is just a pretty toy right now.
  • neil1492, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2I wouldn't mind an Instinct. It looks like a good alternative to the iPhone. My only problem is that it doesn't offer Wi-fi and you need to have a data plan. Bad idea if you live in an area that doesn't offer fast data. I am waiting for the new Treo 800w, that will be alittle more to my liking.
  • YodaJones, on 07/05/2008, -1/+2What is wrong with these other cell phone manufacturers? Who the hell would pay so much money for a phone that is "almost" a iPhone when you can get a real iPhone?
    Not one of these iPhone competitors has the balls to make a better phone. You are the iPhones bitch.
  • phyx726, on 07/05/2008, -1/+1I've always liked samsung phones. They always seem a better bang for your buck.
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