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Safari for Windows Downloads Top 1 Million In 48 Hours

macrumors.com — Apple today announced (via a news release) that more than 1 million copies of Safari for Windows were downloaded in the first 48 hours since the free public beta was made available on Monday.

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  • diegoferreyra, on 10/11/2007, -17/+81Finally, an accurate post about Safari on Windows.

    This is all about enabling iPhone as a platform, not Safari trying to win the browser competition.
    • mgkwho, on 10/11/2007, -29/+88I wish Apple would port iChat to Windows.

      -=|Mgkwho
    • mtownand1, on 10/11/2007, -33/+14ichat is only good for video chatting. adium is where it's at.
    • Paranoidmarvin, on 10/11/2007, -32/+7Or just get MSN in iChat

      Otherwise, the new iChat is useless to me
    • OandA, on 10/11/2007, -33/+15I use OS X and i HATE ichat

      Sorry but can't stand the UI
    • fmg2000, on 10/11/2007, -21/+5Oh really? Not about marketshare?
      http://digg.com/apple/Mozilla_COO_Steve_Jobs_Not_Good_for_the_Web
    • Tyr7BE, on 10/11/2007, -18/+10Adium's where it's at.
    • tadunne, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17You can always chat to msn people thru a jabber-msn gateway. I do this all the time!
    • Ireland, on 10/11/2007, -6/+31"I wish Apple would port iChat to Windows."
      Tick tock, it's coming!
    • Hydroxyl, on 10/11/2007, -13/+41I wish they'd port Adium to Windows.

      :drool:
    • legendxx, on 10/11/2007, -22/+34that's a lot of dissapointed people...
    • hbweb500, on 10/11/2007, -7/+71But how many people are still using it? I downloaded it, booted it once, didn't care for it, then uninstalled it. I think the numbers are fueled by curiosity/excitement more than an actual embracing of Safari.
    • IEatHamburgers, on 10/11/2007, -6/+20It is useful to see how websites look in Safari without finding somebody who owns a Mac to test it out on. I can't afford one myself.
    • maybeway36, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11And I wish the KDE people ported Kopete to Windows. Oh, wait, they are! :D
    • potp, on 10/11/2007, -33/+27Just wondering but i think 900000 of them probably hit delete after founding out what a worthless piece of ***** it was.
    • zulfy26, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2@Mgkwho-- I don't.
    • OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1OH stop it.
    • rblinne, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8I wish they port iChat for the simple reason is then I would be able to do the voice/video chat with the vast majority of people on Windows boxes. With the new features in Leopard where I could give presentations/share desktops it's Net Meeting buh-buy. In the same vein, sharing bookmarks, history etc. on the Windows Safari would be great. Apple needs Windows interoperability more than the other way around.
    • Ulrika, on 10/11/2007, -10/+34I'm drawn to Safari because it generates output that feels to me as if it came off a press. Having a background in professional typesetting with LaTeX, QuarkXPress, and Adobe InDesign, I demand a consistent and high level of control over my content and expect a polished ready-for-print final product. Safari among all browsers uniquely provides me this experience and thus, as mentioned by the parent post, provides a unique development platform.

      Minus automated access to ligatures, Safari is as close as one can get to professional typesetting on the web. Indeed, discussions about blurry or thick fonts in Safari, color variations in images, and strict CSS support are all related to MacOS's history as a publication platform. In the case of the font rendering, Apple uses an alternate subpixel font-rendering technology that generates text which is more akin to printed matter. To me, the strict adherence to CSS is similar to the precise controls over text that a typesetting program provides. Additionally, Safari 3 supports native SVG rendering, permitting vectorized graphics to exist alongside rasterized much like a typesetting program. (In-line PDFs have been supported from the beginning, however support in other browsers is mixed.)

      In short, to me the worth of Safari is not the fact that it's faster, that it provides additional competition, or that it contains a sufficient number of plugins and features, to me the benefit is that provides an alternate paradigm -- markup language presented as print-ready copy. No other browser does that -- and once you recognize it, it's tough to go back.
    • brister, on 10/11/2007, -9/+11I think most of those downloads were just based on curiosity. I doubt you will see the high download rate continue.
    • joel8x, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4For the people who want iChat for Windows, all of the cool new features wouldn't work because they depend on underlying OS X tech, so it would not be any good on Windows.
    • turpenine, on 10/11/2007, -8/+4just so everyone knows, safari looks exactly the same as opera as they are both 100% standards compliant browsers. adium us better than ichat, but windows users could stand to have even an ichat available. most people use aim and it is just a hideous mess with ads and memory problems
    • pifko1987, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2It doesn't mean 1 million extra people will be using Safari. I guess a lot of people did exactly what I did:
      1. Download out of curiosity
      2. install
      3. Disappointment
      4. Uninstall
      5. Profit.
    • macfanboi, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1Most likely just Windows on Mac Hardware users downloading this. Marked as FUD.
    • changyang1230, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Does anyone else find that the supposedly keyboard shortcut for switching tabs (Ctrl - Shift - Arrow Key) works for Safari in Mac but doesn't work in this windows version?

      It's one of the main complaints I have with this browser now, together with its inability to switch to a particular tab with Ctrl - [number]. Other than that it's pretty robust.
  • phytonix, on 10/11/2007, -19/+13Wining the browser competition could be a side-effect.
  • mingistech, on 10/11/2007, -19/+44Wow... 1 million in 48hrs. That seems really quick.

    For all the complaining I here on here... there sure are alot of people using it.
    • terrorpin, on 10/11/2007, -25/+85But I've already uninstalled it, so it's really only 999,999.
    • lhnz, on 10/11/2007, -13/+9@mingistech (#7193701)
      I wouldn't be surprised that there'd be a lot of downloads with the ammount of coverage they've been getting. But I'd be really surprised if people continue to use it, since the sort of people that download a browser are the type that really care to have a good browser (and while Safari is good on OSX, it just isn't that great on Windows).
    • pbaehr, on 10/11/2007, -14/+44As many people have pointed out, the number of downloads does not translate to the number of users. Many people (myself included) downloaded it (*****, it's free, why not?) to see what the fuss was about and promptly uninstalled it.
    • eddie72, on 10/11/2007, -11/+21Not exactly, I installed Safari to see what the browsing experience was like but I went back to the browsers I normally use, IE7 and Firefox. Safari is nice but not nice enough to replace my two main browsers and unlike what is being hyped it isn't any faster at loading than IE7 or Firefox. So I am one of those that downloaded it but using it on a daily basis? No
    • j4200, on 10/11/2007, -21/+5They're inflated figures for sure. If there is one thing apple is good at, it's pretending what they're saying is true for marketing purposes.
    • Lyanto, on 10/11/2007, -21/+15More accurate: Safari for Windows Memory Usage Top 1 Million KB in 48 seconds.
    • chris4404, on 10/11/2007, -15/+9"1 million copies of Safari for Windows were downloaded in the first 48"
      Follow up to the story
      "990,000 copies of Safari for Windows were uninstalled within 48 Hours of downloading."
    • Rikkochet, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6You guys got it right on the nose. I'm sure more than one person had my experience:

      "Neat!"
      [install and run]
      "It looks like the Mac Plus interface when I was seven years old?"
      [uninstall]
    • IEatHamburgers, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6@Lyanto: If the entire combined memory use of Safari amongst all Windows users (probably thousands) is only 1GB then it must be a very lightweight browser - which it isn't. What are you trying to say?
    • beangawlowski, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I installed Safari and used it for a day, but I'm back to using Firefox.

      I switch between Safari and Camino on my Mac, but on Windows nothing beats Firefox.
    • twigboy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5it'll flatline once curiosity dies down
    • bamapachyderm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@terrorpin:

      I did the same. It didn't work for me--I couldn't see any menu or navigation (it was there, but I had to GUESS what I'd be clicking), couldn't fill in any forms (i.e. in a Google search), all kinds of crap. That's what an Apple Beta product looks like? At least Microsoft's horrible beta ***** works on my PC, despite the other issues. (And I hate MS/Win.)

      I'm guessing the people who say "it sucks" are getting dugg down because The Cult of Apple™ doesn't like bad things being said about it? WTH, I wish I had a Mac myself, but I don't have the big bucks for one. I *wanted* to use Safari, but the ***** doesn't work. Uninstalled.
    • r3zonance, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"As many people have pointed out, the number of downloads does not translate to the number of users."

      In the same way that copies of Microsofts "Vista shipped" figures doesn't translate into users either. Microsofts "shipped" figures include all those to OEMs (that are still sat on their shelves) and all those new PCs sold with Vista but have XP re-installed.

      Microsoft and Apple fans alike are both quick to defend their side of the camp and attack the other. We are just a little bit too blinded at times, and just don't want to admit, myself included on occasion. I slagged Vista left and right whilst it was in beta, but overall I'd have to say now that it is a nice experience and a step in the right direction for them, Kudos.
  • geoken, on 10/11/2007, -37/+147In related news, Safari for Windows un-installs top 990,000 in 48 hours.
    • Jambi, on 10/11/2007, -20/+15At least. Apple applications on Windows are a joke, and Safari's not nearly customizable for my tastes after having used Firefox and its derivatives.
    • tamoorhussain, on 10/11/2007, -14/+37I uninstalled mine after 5 mins, didnt like it, sure others did the same.
    • HUKI365, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24While I didn't uninstall it, I did stop using it. It IS slick. But stupid stuff (You can't close tabs by clicking with the middle button on them, no user add ons (adblock)), stops me using it.
    • astrostream, on 10/11/2007, -25/+0Hey microsofty fanboy, you know what? stop being stupid. and start being Scientific. I installed Safari 3.01 on my Parallel's XP(I have to). and it's very good. and waaaaay faster than IE or FF. though i still prefer FF because of some addons i need to use.


    • fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+25Wow, I didn't know you can close tabs by clicking the middle button on them.

    • LatvianHedgehog, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3Huki, it's a beta, and you just want features ripped off from Firefox.
    • Alegoo92, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6What do you mean you cant close the tab by clicking on them.. you just hit the X on the tab...
    • potp, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5Hey macfaggoty. i installed it on my Windows XP and the performance and the crashes i got says it sucks ass. Now just GTFO.
    • econofast, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Apparently there are 1,000,000 web developers out there... who downloaded it... checked their sites... and said "*****, another non-standards-compliant browser... well, at least I'm charging by the hour."
    • clickmyface, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11"Wow, I didn't know you can close tabs by clicking the middle button on them."

      Hell, I didn't even know there was a middle button!

      *sigh* Mac user here. */sigh*
    • jamesfoster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I think you meant that as a joke, but it's at least partially true.

      I'm one of the 1 million people that downloaded Safari for Windows in the first 24 hours. I'm never going to use it, I just downloaded it to take a quick look out of curiosity.
  • pittarelli, on 10/11/2007, -25/+2i chat in windows with safari and itunes would create a large borwn pile in somebodies pants
    • AnthonyA7, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5I'm really curious, what exactly is the thought process behind formulating a post like that?

      "Hmm... let's see how I can relate Apple apps, Windows, and feces... Aha!"
    • mikev, on 10/11/2007, -10/+1You have to be kidding me
  • sedgarm, on 10/11/2007, -44/+6Its about time the best internet browser comes to the worst operating system..... Chalk one up for Apple... Windows loses again
    • jjpertusch, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26who wants to go fishing?
    • Jambi, on 10/11/2007, -14/+17Best internet browser? Ye gods, man... what have you been smoking? The thing has a so-so UI, wonky font rendering, and is buggy as hell. I'm an Apple fan (typing this on a Mac, in fact) but they seriously screwed the pooch on this one. I don't care if it is about iPhone support, that's no excuse for a shoddy piece of software, even if it is in beta.
    • j4200, on 10/11/2007, -16/+2Yup. this is definatly a crushing blow for microsoft's feeble internet explorer. Like that thing will ever last compared to something as stable and great as safari......
      Apple win's this round
    • potp, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6and yet IE controls close to 70 ***** percent of the market. Good try but your dreams of apple world domination is gonna be just that. a dream at which you can fap off to .

      Disclaimer: Firefox Loyalist
    • j4200, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2sorry, i should've added a < /sarcasm to my post
      digg this down
  • eightyd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3This smacks of something bigger.. I've been wondering why apple would do something like this, when, as opposed to iTunes, they really don't stand to make much or any money off of a free web browser. I'm wondering if apple is testing the waters of adoption rates; maybe a precusor to an OSX release on PC's? Just my paranoid two bits.
    • CBanga, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11No, they just want developers to create apps for the iPhone.
    • jads, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2That google searchbar is a revenue stream for Apple. Estimates put that even if they tap around 1% browser share then they'll probably bring in somewhere like $100 million in google revenue for the year.
  • MackPrime, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4its a conspiracy to get people to go to apple.com to get it, then have it as a homepage.
  • RyomaNagare, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6Does someone have any numbers on how many uninstalls took place in the last 48 hours?
    • Darcy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2I'm wondering how many Safari error reports were sent to MS. I've only used it for about 2 hours over the last 2 days, but its already crashed 6 times, it feels more like an alpha than a beta release.
  • bigjosh359, on 10/11/2007, -13/+25Downloaded, Installed, Uninstalled....
  • Heikell, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7Downloads doesn't mean that users are actually using it.All iIt it tells you is that people have the file. Have you ever thought about Mac users using Safari on their windows computer? There must be at least a million Mac users out there who also have a windows computer
  • binky79, on 10/11/2007, -9/+24I downloaded it, surfed with it for 10 minutes, let out an audible, "meh," closed it, and quickly forgot it was even there.
    • mbierman, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Right. downloads usage.

      I downloaded it right away--but I won't be using it. Safari is not a windows app. Safari isn't that great a browser (on the Mac or Windows). Safari doesn't have an extensible architecture (no extensions). Sorry, Safari just isn't very interesting unless maybe, you are a mac user stuck on a Windows machine...but then you should be using Firefox. :)
    • m00nmaster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2That's interesting. Now that I know the details of your incredibly boring day, I can get back to saving the world.
  • WayOfTheIronPaw, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1I predict that the total number of installs will be equal to Apple's user base, plus a handful of intrepid technophiles. Nobody else knows or cares.
  • chrisinsocalif, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3I didn't like safari either. Perhaps they need a little more time to tweak it or make changes to appeal to windows users.
  • scoult01, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1It saddens me to know people actually use this browser, thanks for making my job that bit harder.
    • JoeDiggsIt, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2What's your job?
    • Qumahlin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Your job is only made hard if you don't follow standards. You apparently haven't looked into the webkit rendering engine and are merely wishing there was only one browser so that you didn't have to worry about compatibility

      It amazes me when people bitch about crap like this, get over it, competition is a needed thing, if it wasn't we could make all software developers lives easier by mandating that every computer made have the same exact components and drivers.
  • WazzaM, on 10/11/2007, -9/+14I'm using Safari for Digg... It rocks... A few media bugs buy they are calming down.

    Good marketing tool for Apple... Fast ! Will always use IE for other work stuff... Recommended by our IT.
    • aldenhg, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3You should really use Firefox. There are some places that don't work properly in FF, but that's usually the site designer's fault. Even if you don't use all of it's awesome features or get any add-ons, you can at least enjoy the better security and lack of browser-originating spyware.
  • Forever-Zero, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18I downloaded it, and it's a fine browser. There's nothing special about it really, only thing I really liked was the on screen highlighting.

    They shouldn't be screaming out "the world's best browser" though. There's nothing wrong with it, but there's not much going for it either. I'll just repeat the words of every other web developer I have seen comment on digg in these articles, and say that I am happy as hell that I can test my stuff on Safari now.

    If you aren't an iPhone owner or a web developer, you will probably have no reason to download it other than to check it out.
  • da5id, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2I use Vista as my primary OS and Firefox and IE 7 as my primary browser. Now that IE 7 is overdue extensions, it can compete with Firefox. Now that Firefox has jumped on the "purity" bandwagon, it no longer is a multimedia browser. I simply do not want to spend hours messing around with "chrome" "JS" user profiles, downloads that do not bind with the browser, etc., just to get flash or embedded video. Having said that, with a faster computer and a ton of RAM all my browsing is vetted by LavaSoft Ad-Aware, Spybought Search & Destroy, and Windows Defender. Along with several pop-up blockers and ad removers. The bottom line is that Safari is surprisingly, but very noticeably, put it to render a page. It could be a contender if it just had a killer ad removal tools such as that found in IE7Pro or Firefox ABP...
    • cdmarcus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Wait, what? Purity Bandwagon? All of MY multimedia players work great embedded in Firefox.
    • ledzep19752000, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2WTF? LavaSoft Ad-Aware, Spy-bot Search & Destroy, and Windows Defender. Along with several pop-up blockers and ad removers. ???

      A little Paranoid?

      I've been using Firefox before it was even called Firefox! I have not had spyware in years!
    • combatchuck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Ah, I remember using Phoenix 0.3, when tabbed browsing first came around. Just look at how far it's come since then.
  • aserer511, on 10/11/2007, -12/+81/2 the downloads were definitely from,"too cool for windows" high school kids who can't get a mac till college. So they they think have a piece of mac software will let them achieve that 'different-ness'. Let's see how many uninstalls in the next week :P
    • hlgriggs, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4I uninstalled Windoze and got a Mac... never looked back.
  • mal1964, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4"Safari updates are delivered seamlessly through Apple’s Software Update"
  • da5id, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2I use Vista as my primary OS and Firefox and IE 7 as my primary browser. Now that IE 760 supports extensions, it can compete with Firefox. Now that Firefox has jumped on the "purity" bandwagon, it no longer is a multimedia browser. I simply do not want to spend hours messing around with "chrome" "JS" user profiles, downloads that do not bind with the browser, etc., just to get Flash, Java or embedded video. Having said that, with a faster computer and a ton of RAM all my browsing is vetted, perhaps needlessly, by LavaSoft Ad-Aware, Spybot Search & Destroy, and Windows Defender, along with several pop-up blockers and ad removers. The bottom line is that Safari is surprisingly, but very noticeably, faster to render a page. It could be a contender if it just had a killer ad-removal tools such as that found in IE7Pro or Firefox ABP...

    PS: The last post shows what happens when you take too long editing.
  • carl25, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6downloaded it and uninstalled it in a period of 5 minutes
  • feech, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7I too downloaded but more to see why fanboys think so highly of Apple. I didn't see what the big deal was except that it caused my Yahoo Widgets to stop working..It was uninstalled 24 hours later
    • Jambi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Fanboys think so highly of Apple because they make a good OS with well-integrated applications (which despite this, are easy to get rid of if you'd prefer something else). The Windows versions of Apple apps aren't very good for some reason, and eat memory like crazy.
    • mr100percent, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1It's a 1.0 beta of a product not ported to windows before, what did you expect?

      Just don't be one of those people who says "Macs suck! I used one in 1996 and never again."
    • ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The OS model of OS X and Windows has nothing similar, that is why. Especially Quicktime shows it. Quicktime interface is fine on OS X since there is Quartz (extreme) involved, it links to native, optimized OS frameworks. If you ship that thing exactly same to Windows which was still talking about some 1990s method of acceleration before Vista, you get what you deserve.

  • kidcodea, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4am i the only one finding it unusable? i cant even click the bookmarks button. crashes it.
    is there a solution to bookmark problem?
  • wizard13335, on 10/11/2007, -10/+7It seems no one has sad this yet: Safari 3 is a BETA. That means it's supposed to have bugs.
    • orgazmo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11Yah, I'm sure they worked real hard to code bugs in there... since... you know, its supposed to have bugs
    • Darcy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1wizard, Thanks for reminding me it was a beta, I can't believe no one else said anything. I was wondering what all those bugs were doing in there, but now I realize they are supposed to be there, it's all OK.
    • lonniebiz, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Everyone's a smart ass it seems. I understand what you're saying. You're trying to remind those who are critical of bugs that they are getting a sneak preview of an unfinished project. That's fine.

      However, I'll will always encourage people to go with an open source browser like Firefox. I encourage Mac people to use Firefox, and Microsoft people to use it. In the long run, company-created web browsers will not be able to out pace community-created web browsers.

      These company's aren't selling these web browsers, so I wish these company-teams would spend their time making Firefox better instead of wasting their time on projects that will one day be instinct.
    • lonniebiz, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1I meant to say extinct.
  • mstefanik, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0I wonder how many people (a) could actually install it after downloading it, and (b) are still using it a day later. Personally, I fall into the first category. The installer just chokes on my Vista system. And given the zero-day exploits and underwhelming rendering, I can't imagine many people are actually using the thing on Windows.
  • kinghajj, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Apple should release whatever technology they have that lets them port OS X apps to Windows and retain the OS X look... I want TextMate now! My guess is that they have a library that translates Cocoa into Win32.
    • kethraal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"My guess is that they have a library that translates Cocoa into Win32"

      They were (in the Rhapsody era) developing a Cocoa implementation for Win32 -- it was called Yellow Box. There were some incomplete tech demos/alphas floating around, but it was never as complete on Win32 as it was on Rhapsody.

      I actually would be surprised if they had a Cocoa for Win32 implementation right now. iTunes isn't a Cocoa app, so Safari really is the first Cocoa app that they're porting to Windows. My guess is that they didn't really port Safari -- they simply cloned the shell for WebKit (which _has_ been cross-platform capable for quite some time). That would explain why there are UI bugs and a couple of security holes, yet no serious rendering problems (the blank text bug is a UI problem, not a page rendering problem.)
    • cjwl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2There is no sign of Objective-C in any of it.
    • r3zonance, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2TextMate on Windows would be nice (for when I can't use my Mac).

      e-texteditor for Windows is not even close to TextMate on the Mac, except that it can use TextMate bundles, that's pretty much where the similarity ends.
  • strelok1, on 10/11/2007, -16/+3Yeah it looks like a lot of these downloads were just quick "look-sees". Followed by an uninstall.
    Here's my experience:
    1. Install Safari for Windows and open
    2. AAARRRGGGGHHHHH... MY EYES... OH GAWD THE FONTS
    3. Ok I guess I CAN get used to it after 2 mins
    4. *****... Ctrl-Tab doesn't work...
    5. *****... Backspace doesn't work...
    6. *****... the whole address is not getting highlighted when I click on the address bar (oh wait a minute, that's like FF)
    7. *****... this looks like FF but much worse (hmm I don't use FF)
    8. Uninstall
    • kinghajj, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Just double-click. I hate when a browser highlights on click, because that's not standard for basically any other application. It also makes editing a URL a bitch.
  • dmustillo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Nice, I have yet to download it yet because I have my Firefox working the way I want. I wonder if they might release more Mac software on Windows to help with advertisement, 1 million downloads in 2 days sounds too tempting for them to pass up.
  • heretrix, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3"Yeah it looks like a lot of these downloads were just quick "look-sees". Followed by an uninstall"

    I with you on that one. It sucked.
  • darkane, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1In a related story, after Apple admits to multiple security issues with the Windows port of Safari, deletions top the one million mark in 24 hours.
  • ispshadow, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Well, only 500,000 since each copy needed a security update hours after release.

    /Downloaded it and like it.
  • JackDoyle, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3At least one was never installed.
  • zomgflamer, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5And heres a new record, it was uninstalled after 5 minutes on mine. ***** useless ugly piece of *****.
  • eddieroger, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Its nice the Windows fanboys can finally get their piece. When Apple fanboys pointed out that Zunes shipped isn't the same as Zunes sold the Microsofties came out in droves to dispute it. Downloads are a hard number. No one said 1m people are still using it, but they did download it.
    • jeet404, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1WTF? Zune and a ***** web browser? Wow you may as well put some political hate in their.
    • bamapachyderm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2You know, Zunes aren't free. I'd guess people who paid for them would (believe it or not) USE them.

      /don't have one, don't want one
    • ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Zune discussion? They even had face to use "Zune" word? Where is Windows Media Player 10 for Macintosh so Zune will work/sync? What stopped MS from doing it? XCode is there, free and I just downloaded the latest yesterday.
  • Mizzike, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Most of these downloads are likely all the developers who were at WWDC, and all the developers' friends. ;-) I'd say that maybe 25% of the downloads are the general public (i.e., curious techies).

    Oh, and did you know that something like 75% of statistics are made up on the spot? :-)
  • flag564, on 10/11/2007, -12/+10Damn, that reminds me...

    (Uninstall Safari)
    • Ireland, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Well look who it is, the Mac fanboy himself.
      You mean "that reminds you.. must goes bash something Mac today"
  • thinman1189, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3When the hell would you use Safari when you could use Fire Fox?
  • Hostile, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12At least Safari and Opera pass Acid 2 test, *cough* Firefox and IE
    • kinghajj, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Hey, Firefox is a lot better than IE in standards, and Firefox 3 will pass the test.
    • Wren5, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0Seriously -- Remind me why I care? Show me the website that I could use only if my browser passes the Acid 2 test. Supporting web standards is a cool ideal but I'm not going to switch browsers over it.
    • ashura001, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Firefox 3.0 alphas have been passing it for some time now.
    • Hostile, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I'm glad that Firefox 3 will, its about damn time, Mozilla needs to start using their market share to push for web standards. Opera has been trying this for years but just doesn't have the market share, if Firefox is fully standards compliant it will have some force to push everyone else to comply to standards.
    • flamebot, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1wow you convinced me to switch!... sigh
    • ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Why aren't we allowed to My yahoo beta, mail.yahoo beta, Google documents if Acid test is the way to prove browsers superiority?

      Just passing acid doesn't prove anything. iCab on OS X passed it long time before other browsers. We should demand a better webservices friendly and better compatible browser from Apple since it is included in $140 OS X, it is NOT freeware. Try to install Safari 2 to Panther if you don't believe me.
  • AydenV2, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Things I like about Safari:
    Fast loading, loads faster than IE and somewhat faster than FF
    Better rendering, all images look better in Safari
    Nice text rendering, Easy on the eyes

    Things I dislike:
    Crashes when I download some things, expected since its beta
    Memory hog, Apple product, expected
    NO ADDBLOCK!

    All in all, I will continue to use Safari because I believe it's superior.
    • stmiller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7"NO ADDBLOCK!"

      You can add an adblock.css for Safari, in the prefs. Then ads are gone.
  • PseudoWaters, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2It was bad as advertised and I uninstalled it after a few hours, Not counting the time inbetween for sleep after being disillusioned by it s functionality.
  • JEdwardFuck, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Is safari really worth this many digs? wtf? who Cares?
  • ashura001, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Meh...Installed it and found out that it doesn't like it when people have lots of fonts. Hours later, I stumbled across a fix for it so I could finally try it out. It's decent, but nothing special.

    I really wish Apple would quit trying to force the OSX UI on Windows users though. I like their look when I'm on a Mac but it makes their software look horribly out of place with the rest of the Windows GUI unless you just happen to be running Windowsblinds or something and can change to a matching style.
    • MacParrot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I would say that how it looks isn't really that important. It's just skin deep as they say. IMO where Apple made their mistake was in forcing the OS X UI (NOT the skin) on Windows users. Almost all Windows browsers have certain UI capabilities that are identical (mostly to get you to switch from one to another without losing shortcut keystrokes and the like) and that Apple ignored. Also resizing the box in Windows can be done from almost any edge of the window and the Safari browser forces you to only do it from the right corner (as it does in OS X). If you're going to make Windows software, these are a few of the things you must pay attention to to at least attempt to be successful.

      Using the "It's a beta" excuse isn't really relevent. Don't come to the table without having done your homework. Hopefully Apple will do better with the next release.
  • deusdiabolus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I installed it on my D partition and tried it out. Today, Apple Software Update informed me of an update (probably a fix for the security patches they found). I let it automatically install the update, and then discovered later that it had apparently uninstalled it from D and installed it on C, which I did not want (it has limited space...many of you with Windows will understand). I uninstalled it completely.

    So now I'm trying to decide if I want to reinstall the update on D or just forget the whole thing until they work all the kinks out. And add mouse gestures. And double-clicking tabs to close them. And double-clicking the tab bar to open a new tab...
  • BLINDmelon, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0aha i love the previous comment
    anyone who uses safari is more retarded than anyone who uses internet explorer
  • waterdrop, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1I installed Safari under Vista (so it didn't ***** up my main OS, Windows XP), and I used it for an hour to try it out. Then I uninstalled it and deleted the whole thing.
  • ileshy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1That means Apple was successful again to generate more than one million disappointed souls within 48 hours.
  • EzarKun, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1digg down.
    i uninstalled it after a while i installed it. so this 1 million thing means nothing.
  • Vermifax, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8I downloaded Safari 3 beta in Vista.

    After using it, I was disappointed .......in Vista.

    So, I rebooted back into Tiger and everything was right again.
  • superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I would probably use it in Windows more often, if it syncronized with my .mac account and passwords and bookmarks I had on a Mac. Then I would probably use a mix of browsers.

    Yes I know you can do that in Firefox as well, but I've never liked Firefox on a Mac (I should really try Camino again though, it's come a long way).

    It is hard to beat Firefox on Windows...
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