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- earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11you need some anger managment help.
- Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10CAPS LOCK is cruise control for IM REALLY PISSED OFF
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I have to admit, I am really interested to see what comes out of CS3. Since they had to do a general overhaul of the whole app I think they will have cleaned up the codebase substantially. It's said that even the PPC versions of CS3 run substantially faster.
I also liked the sound of Fireworks replaceing ImageReady, which I never did like much. - earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Well it would boost Mac sales cause a huge portion of Mac users use the Creative Suite professionally and are clinging to their PowerPCs just waiting on CS3 to buy a whole bunch of intel Macs.
They got a huge itch to scratch. - ThatBlokeRob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Obvious. I work in education & commercial environments. I still get companies wanting to buy G5 kit for that very reason.
Without a doubt sales will increase. - KSUdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Not just any shot in the arm, a shot of steroids in the arm. I'm a graphic designer and EVERYBODY I know is waiting for CS3 to come out before they go Intel. CS3 is going to be HUGE for Mac sales.
- avatarpalin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It's funny, when people say 'when I can afford it' they really don't mean actual money, they just use that as an excuse.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I own a Mac Pro and I use Photoshop CS2 all the time. It operates under Rosetta. I'm not aware of that level of its functionality. I just open it and it works. Bare Feats did some tests and it isn't nearly as fast:
http://www.barefeats.com/rosetta.html
And yet, on a quad-3 GHz Mac Pro it's WAY faster than I was used to on my old G5 machine. I guess I can understand why professionals would be hesitant to make the move until Photoshop was native, but I think it's been over-hyped. It runs right now and it's stable. I've yet to have Photoshop crash. My Intel-native "Universal Binary" version of Final Cut Pro has crashed, but not Photoshop. Go figure. - mindsnare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Personally I'm wrapped that Fireworks is replacing Imageready, and I sure hope they do the same with Dreamweaver / Go....whatever it was called. I don't think one is necessarily better than the other, I just started off using Macromedia apps. It was a flip of the coin if you ask me. I would think the more practical answer would be that it may have had a larger consumer base than imageready (if you cut out all of the people who got PS with Imageready but don't use it) It's all those survey's you do when registering your product
I was shattered when Adobe bought Macromedia.
More on the topic, I think the reason they think mac sales will go up is a lot of people have been holding off buying a mac because they want a speedy version of photoshop to run natively on their mac, not in rosetta mode, which runs like sheit. - piwy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Actually it would. Since alot of pro's are holding out on the new mac's since their must have tool runs like ***** on them.
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Like.. when you finally get 599$ ? You'd be so filthy rich...
- Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So they are waiting to get new macs? ...For a Beta? Why wouldn't they wait till it's final....
- avatarpalin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hmmm for some reason I find that Microsoft has little to do with this, and more that the media industry 78% (Figure pulled from my head but it sounds right) uses Mac's and Adobe CS. It just makes smart Business sense.
- NoodleGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A shot in the arm:
Meaning: A stimulus.
Origin: From the restorative effects of an injection of a drug like penicillin.
From: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/318925.html
The phase "a shot in the arm" is a good thing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@nofxjunkee
Heh...yeah, I'm sure you're right. I'm just glad I'm able to use it now. I think there are probably a lot of professionals who'd make the switch to a Mac Pro immediately if they realized how unfounded the worries about incompatibility are. - flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I know our company would be getting CS3 right away but I think we are waiting for Intel Pro machines.
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mac Pros have PCIe cards, just like PC's - so unless you are saying the same thing about desktop computers in general, your argument isn't very consistent.
Of course that would follow since you seem to think Adobe and Apple are the same company. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You're probably going to have a heart attack when you see how much faster it will run when it's not being run in Rosetta.
- sclifford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lowridah said:
"You won't get PS to run under parallels legit and will probably have problems running it at all. Parallels and adobe's activation software does not get along."
@lowridah
No, you're wrong. I purchased Adobe CS2 for both Windows and Mac and have had no trouble activating or running Photoshop on my Parallels installation. Here are a pair of screenshots, the first showing successful activation and the second showing a digg screenshot.
http://www.macbookpro.ms/images/activate_parallels_photosho.png
http://www.macbookpro.ms/images/digg.png - mindsnare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2well for starters your teacher is a twit, fireworks is made for web graphics only not for print, which is why I use it, I've used it a couple of times for print stuff but as soon as it goes above 300dpi it cracks the *****. And as I said earlier I don't think one is necessarily any better than another, I simply started off with Macromedia products and I feel more comfortable with it's interface. You get things done 100% quicker when you know software inside out.
- rickcarson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I and most of the Mac users I know have no idea what CS3 is, nor do we care.
Heck, I mentally translate CS2 to Counter-Strike 2.
That said, I know of a good home for all your buddies 'useless' old G5s :D :D :D - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fireworks is not going to replace Photoshop, but the separate ImageReady application - which I never did like the interface of.
Presumably they are adding a lot of things to Fireworks to make sure it doesn't lack any features ImageReady has today. - ForbesBingley, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4What with Microsoft getting into the creative market, look out for feature hold-back for Windows versions of Adobe software and a closer relationship between Apple and Adobe...
- halik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I wouldn't be too surpised if this was to happen eventually - I recently sold one of my G5 towers to a NYC based media workshop that was buying up G5s like no tomorrow. Apparently they got a handful new Xeon-based boxes, but they ran so horrid that their artists demanded the older G5 towers....
That being said, a public beta will not change anything - I very much doubt that any company will invest 3K a piece in hardware because a BETA version of some application is available now. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No offense intended at all, but the Corel X3 graphics suite isn't going to replace Photoshop CS2 for me. Photo Paint is the only real photo retouching tool in the suite and it's very, very limited. It has nothing to approach the power of Adobe Camera RAW. It doesn't even have tools like Adobe's Highlight/Shadow tools for dealing with the limited latitude of digital images. It doesn't have image healing and stamping tools like Photoshop. You can't use it to do virtual spotting. It just isn't a replacement for Photoshop on any level that I can see, though it is a nice tool for basic photographers. I wish there was an alternative to Photoshop. There are things I've never really liked about it, but every time someone comes out with a competing product I give it a shot and come away disappointed. For the time being Adobe has all the marbles. That could change, but it hasn't yet.
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The file integration between Parallels and the native OS stuff is a little annoying, so it's way more convenient to have a Mac version of Photoshop to use since you're going to be working with a lot of files.
Also a number of people run Aperture and use Photoshop as an external editor, you can't really set it up that way if you use Photoshop in Parallels. - macslut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The article, title and blurb said nothing about switching. It's all about owners of older Macs thinking about upgrading to an Intel Mac but have been holding off because CS2 isn't a universal binary.
Personally I switched, and found that CS2 under Rosetta was still fast on my MacBook Pro with 2GB of RAM. - unloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you are going to say bitch, then say bitch. Don't half ass the damn word with a 1
- fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"You won't get PS to run under parallels legit and will probably have problems running it at all. Parallels and adobe's activation software does not get along."
I was unaware that Adobe had DRM problems. I'll keep your remark in mind if I ever find myself lacking something PS has that I seem to need.
"The file integration between Parallels and the native OS stuff is a little annoying"
Shared folder between XP and OSX and/or an open network share; I didn't find either of those much trouble, but then again, I wasn't looking for integration WRT Aperture or anything, I just use the same software to manage all image work, so its pretty easy for me... load from the image manager, edit / manipulate, save.
Anyway, thanks for the replies. Sometimes to an outsider, these issues are a little mystifying. - bbxboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Awwww - sounds like somebody's a little bitter because his mommy wouldn't buy him a Mac. If you're getting that excited little b1tch, then you've got one serious problem.
- mgkwho, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@rickcarson-
8) "Run...Microsoft Office." Erm, where have you been? Mac has been running Microsoft Office for years.
(Although I'd hardly call it real business software; I hate MO...I have it on a PC, and use WordPerfect instead).
7) "Get a decent UI, like Windows" Well, seeing as Vista has the transparency that OS X had a few years ago, it seems like Windows is getting a UI like OS X. Transparency is the most touted feature of aero-glass; OS X has had that for years.
2) "Get a second mouse button" Yeah, Macs have had two buttons for a while now. Not years, but- all desktops ship with a two button mouse and their laptops have two-button clicking as well. Apple just does it differently.
(I've played on my dad's laptops for probably more than 10 years. Now that I have had a MBP for several months, I think the two-fingers-on-touchpad works way better than giving your thumb a workout to right click).
1) "All OSes are equally insecure." Hey, care for some proof? There's speculation on both ends that size of userbase does/does not attribute specifically to Apple's lack of viruses. You can't justifiably say that without some solid proof.
The only problem with most people who critique either Mac or PC; iPod or Zune, etc., is that they apparently have not tried both products. The four points above would be obvious to any person who has spent 5 minutes on OS X. I have grown up with Macs in schooling and PCs at home, so for the last 15 years I've used both. PCs a little more because that's what I have at home. I think it's fair to say I know each operating system pretty well to know the differences and make an educated analysis of each. For instance, the fact that Apple has almost always supported two button mice and recently ships two button mice in their machines.
So I'm pretty sure "millions of others" have not been waiting for those to happen, seeing as they already exist.
-=|Mgkwho - lowridah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You won't get PS to run under parallels legit and will probably have problems running it at all. Parallels and adobe's activation software does not get along.
- Shizlanski, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6The description of this sounded contradictory to the title: 'shot in the arm'. Sounded like it would be damaging. Oh, wells.
Either way the beta comes out for windows aswell so I doubt it would boost Mac sales. - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Just a quick question. What do you like in Fireworks that cannot be done in photoshop / imageready?
In Humanities class we had to make some crappy newpaper or something, and the teacher was pushing fireworks over photoshop for designing (school has both, no price competition)...photoshop is no illustrator, but it gets the job done MUCH better then fireworks, which is like paint with layers. - mgkwho, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I think Digg has borken out of the need for news to be presented on this site. Clearly, much more than news is being submitted and dugg.
Take the "hilarious video of Borat" YOU dugg/submitted, "73 best atheist quotes" YOU submitted, and others, for instance.
Not everything on Digg is news.
-=|Mgkwho - sdpenner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Flash!
Day light savings may boost Mac Sales.
:-P - fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The graphics software I use (not Photoshop, sorry) runs extremely well under Parallels; so the question I have for all the "we're waiting for the UB version of CS3" folks is, doesn't the Windows version of Photoshop CS2 run OK under Parallels, or is there something wrong with that kind of setup? I mean, aside from the issue that it's actually running under a sand-boxed Windows... that doesn't affect what you can *do* with it, after all, and the word "professionals" seems to be being thrown about with great abandon here... so I presume that like me, you would do what you have to do rather than wait for a Mac version of something you could have today and get your work done, no?
- UglyShirts, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Adobe Creative Suite is the most user-hostile, resource-hog piece of crap software ever. There's not a SINGLE thing you can do in CS3 that you can't do in Corel Suite X3, and for a whole lot cheaper. And there's a lot of things that Corel does that Adobe doesn't, like cross-format support and multi-page documents.
Adobe Creative Suite and the snooty "it's the INDUSTRY STANDARD" bias attitude that goes with it are the worst things ever to happen to the design world. Art directors could do things faster, easier, and cheaper if they'd switch to Corel. - DucksofAnaheim, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1They have had one popular product in their whole lousy existence...And may have two by the time the sun gives out. Steve Jobs is the master of selling overpriced products that need to be thrown out after 6 months because you can`t upgrade them.
- cbeach, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5This isn't news. It doesn't tell us anything that wasn't already commonly known. Marked as lame
- VtmnR, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7Good God. First our Intels, now this? Will it ever stop?!?!?!
I'll buy an apple once I can afford it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0CS3? You mean the same one I've been using on my PC for 6 months?
- Settra, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3CAPS LOCK IS THE CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOOOOL
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -19/+10Why do you want Imageready to replace Fireworks?
Imageready handles slices and animation VERY WELL!! For everything else, theres Photoshop. That being said, I often hit "CTRL + SHIFT + M" on my [windows] keyboard, and wait for the 20 second load...fireworks would remove this, yet so would changing the keyboard shortcuts.
I'm fine with my two PCs, one with CS1 and one with CS2. Truthfully, I haven't ever thought of switching to a Mac [which I use frequently at school], and a beta release of CS3 (which will also be on PCs) doesn't really swing me.
I don't get this article...it is a BETA release of Photoshop, that will be released on both PCs and Macs. Why would that make users switch? - rickcarson, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1I, and millions of others, are still waiting for Apple to:
10) Have more than two games (risk and tetris on OS 9 don't count)
9) Be cheaper than Dells
8) Run some real business software, like Microsoft Office
7) Get a decent UI, like Windows
6) Organise my recipes already
5) Use a decent modern chipset, like AMD
4) Put out a computer smaller than anything else out there, more upgradeable than anything else out there, with more expansion slots than anything else out there, with perfect TV reception and recording, with a bigger hard drive than anything else out there, running next years top speed prototype CPU, running cool enough to chill my drinks, is a combination of both tablet and phone form factors, while having a built in 40" 3D display, and a battery that continually recharges from the energy of the cosmos. Shoot, _they_ should _pay me_ for the privilege of having me use their system.
3) Put out a new product which sells millions, and never has any complaints or defects
.... and not last but certainly not least ...
2) Get with the fricken second mouse button already.
But the number one reason not to buy a Mac:
1) If I do and everyone else did, then they'd be overrun by viruses because all OSes are equally insecure. - firemillen2, on 10/12/2007, -33/+4ifanboys, shot in the arm for mac sales? EARLY BETA !!!!!!!!! WHO THE ***** DECIDES TO BUY A MAC OR PC BECAUSE THEY CAN GET EARLY BETA SOFTWARE ??????
JESUS H. CHRIST.
YOU IDIOTS KNOW THAT MOST GRAPHIC DESIGNERS USE MACS RIGHT? YOU THINK PC USERS WILL SWITCH NOW CAUSE THEY CAN GET EARLY BETA PHOTOSHOP? JESUS !!!!
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