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- zarathustra007, on 11/04/2007, -12/+177Its not a drive-by installation. It requires user interaction. And it is exactly the same kind of threat Windows has been facing. Fake codecs have been around for over a year.
- chris9902, on 11/06/2007, -22/+161It's exactly the same as Windows threats. The only difference is there are a lot more Windows users who don't know jack about computers and would install anything they're asked to.
- DiggLive, on 11/04/2007, -37/+146Software written for a malicious purpose on Windows: Microsoft sucks!!11oeen!11
Software written for a malicious purpose on Macs: Why do people have to try and hurt Apple for? - geoken, on 11/06/2007, -13/+114The vast majority of Windows exploits are exactly like this. The exploits which are remotely executed without user action are few and far between. Any of the 'big' Windows problems in recent memory all required user initiation which was encouraged through social engineering.
- Dumbledorito, on 11/04/2007, -20/+99As opposed to Mac users who have been told for years that there's no threat of anything bad happening if they install something?
- artisresistance, on 11/04/2007, -3/+76So basically, if you get this "trojan" you're an idiot.
- emdeesee, on 11/04/2007, -16/+88Go to a malicious site.
Get prompted to install software.
Choose to install it.
Put in your admin password when it asks for it.
Get pwned.
Not very drive-by if you ask me. - ddcrandall, on 11/06/2007, -6/+68Uh...you have to download the trojan, go through the installation process, and enter in your administrator password. I'd say you have plenty of chances to stop it. If computer users would just be responsible, viruses like this wouldn't infect nearly as many PCs.
- canthraxp, on 11/06/2007, -10/+58"Hah, I know my mac can't have viruses, so I'm gonna hit install, and laugh at... oh wait... "
- CraigJ, on 11/06/2007, -5/+49Almost all Virus and Trojans are caused by stupid users (worms are a different issue) I have multiple Windows boxes, Linux boxes etc. I have never installed anti-virus software and I have never been infected. Why? Because I don't click on every link the Internets tell me to, that's why. Not to be all 1337, but anybody that installs this ***** is an idiot and deserves what they get. Logic. Use it.
/rant - AndrewMB, on 11/06/2007, -15/+48As Macs get more popular, more and more of these are bound to happen.
- Dumbledorito, on 11/04/2007, -4/+33It's almost a mirror image of when those Sony laptop batteries started exploding.
When the Dell lappys started going up in flames, it was "LOLOLOL der Windoze lusers! Get a Mac!"
When the Powerbooks began popping as well, the attitude became "This isn't funny. Someone could get hurt! How dare you?" and so on. - tehWyman, on 08/19/2009, -3/+30"Its not a drive-by installation"
Can you read? - missingnoh4x, on 11/05/2007, -4/+29The "thing" about "trojans" is that a "user" needs to "let" it through the "gates" of "Troy". And "add" needless "quotation marks".
- strax, on 11/04/2007, -2/+25Part of the problem with windows is that it asks for permission for too many things to make up for the inherint security flaws (you are about to open a text document from an untrusted source, cancel or allow?), so users become numb to popup warnings. (or fall for fake warnings that actually do damage)
- shark615, on 11/02/2007, -7/+28WElcome to 99% of windows "viruses"
- inactive, on 11/04/2007, -1/+22Not politically correct, but does anyone remember this?
"YOU HAVE JUST RECEIVED A MEXICAN VIRUS!!!!!
Since we are not so technologically advanced in Mexico, this is a MANUAL virus. Please delete all the files on your hard drive yourself and send this e-mail to everyone you know.
Thank you for helping me.
Pedro Garcia
Mexican Hacker"
Seems like the same type of virus. Not a big deal if you ask me. - trylleklovn, on 11/02/2007, -1/+22Or really horny and an idiot.
- skinfitz, on 11/04/2007, -2/+23Why is everyone putting the word 'trojan' in inverted commas as if to suggest that the code in question is not a trojan horse?
It says it does one thing, it actually does something else. That is the textbook definition of a trojan horse. Putting it in quotes is not going to make it go away. - Speaking, on 11/04/2007, -0/+20So this "so called trojan" is in fact, by definition, a TROJAN. To the person who submitted this digg: You Smarmy ASS Bastard.
- demonstro, on 11/04/2007, -6/+25Take a look at Macworld. They've published a pretty good article on detection and removal.
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -0/+17"...by allowing an unknown user install to infect their cpu?"
Take a look at what you wrote. If you can't find the error, stop posting about anything related to computers, please. - SniperX, on 11/02/2007, -0/+16To summarizes the above post for the lazy.
The news came from a company selling security products (Anti-Virus), take it with a grain of salt. Spreading FUD is part of their business model. - inactive, on 11/01/2007, -5/+20Sheesh, what is it with you? A Mac scare you when you were a baby or what?
- screwzluse, on 11/04/2007, -4/+18I know the Mac guys at Mac stores have been toting a similar line. It's one of those features that the Apple guys really push at Best Buys and Apple stores along with the whole "it just works" campaign.
- soljin, on 11/04/2007, -3/+17Umm drive by installation. Thats how 90% of windows trojans and malware get on systems. I have been using windows without a virus scanner ofr almost 4 years with 0 infections. It is always user error. And as more and more stupid people start using OSX there will be more and more of this.
- crackedplastic, on 11/04/2007, -2/+15I love how the last paragraph begins "In summary ..." when the whole damn article is a brief summary itself (10 sentences, 6 bullet points).
Read the original advisory instead: http://www.intego.com/news/ism0705.asp and realize that you need interaction to install the damn thing. - victorc26, on 11/04/2007, -0/+13Not the majority, the minority. And yes the minority of us Windows users are stating exactly that. You're forgetting, the people here on Digg aren't the whole population. The Windows users on tech forums and discussion sites, we're fine. Our computers are stable and malware free. It's the other 89% out there that are brainless (with security) that are going to be affected. The same ratio difference is in the Mac community, and will only get more prolific as the Mac user base expands.
You have to remember, only a few are tech savy, and the rest aren't. The platform one runs on doesn't matter. - griz, on 11/06/2007, -2/+15P.S. Just know what you are installing.
Do you open the door to anyone who knocks at your house thinking, "But my neighborhood is safe". - sp1keNARF, on 11/04/2007, -9/+20no actually if this were on windows there would be no post, because everyone knows there are hundreds of this type of trojan for windows. none of which require an administrator password, by the way.
- shark615, on 11/02/2007, -2/+13User had to open the attachment in a dodgey email
How is that not user interaction? - vondur, on 11/05/2007, -2/+12Dude, it takes you porn sites. They act like that is something negative?
- Ramble, on 11/04/2007, -1/+11Vista requires user intervention too.
- chillypacman, on 11/02/2007, -7/+17oh the hypocricy, and how long ago was it that a story about one of Vista's deadly vulnerabilities (involving dragging a corrupt .ico file to the desktop then killing on it) was going to be another one of those 'big things' to destroy windows?
Then there was that other big story about the problem with vistas mp3 playback/networking, something that was going to drive a lot of windows users crazy.
Then the one about... oh for crying out loud.
The thing here is the most modern operating systems are pretty damned secure and tough to crack that these inane methods are being found (known as social engineering) to trick people into doing the dirty business of installing viruses rather than doing it stealthily (since thats next to impossible these days).
So elts take a deep breath and stop listening ot these security companies whose existences have been put into peril for the first time as they try to sensationalise every little thing to sell their product. - heinousjay, on 11/04/2007, -1/+10Somebody missed the release of the iPod touch.
- elipabst, on 11/02/2007, -1/+10Why do you think it's called a "trojan horse" in the first place? Remember the big freaking wooden horse that the Greeks gave to the Trojans as a nice "present"...Hey, I know we've been outside your city for the last 10 years trying to slaughter all of you, but here is a nice big present for you to bring inside your gates.
- SniperX, on 11/04/2007, -0/+8Only if you're running as administrator can you open and install the programs in Windows, and if you're stupid enough to install them you shouldn't be running as administrator. Windows' problem is that they don't treat you like a child, which unfortunately many people should be treated like this on the Internet, but that's a whole other story.
- CraigJ, on 11/01/2007, -3/+11Who ***** in your Cheerios this morning?
- mlostracco, on 11/04/2007, -1/+9And it was also a hoax.
- arjie, on 11/04/2007, -0/+8Security through obscurity only works when you've got security by design or you have no customers.
I've always wanted to say that. It sounds true enough. - Kazbaeden, on 11/02/2007, -1/+9If I'm just average Joe who's been conditioned by Apple to believe that Macs are immune to these sorts of things then I would disregard the warning signs because I just want to watch my porn video.
- Smiley09, on 11/04/2007, -4/+12There a lot more Windows users period... The percentages of people who don't know anything who use each OS is about the same it not the opposite. I'll take a stab and type that people who are buying computers based on how it looks or by being told that you are immune to any computer threat ever would know less than people who are used to this kind of thing happening... Analogy = immune system...
- arjie, on 11/04/2007, -0/+7Umm, no, if you read the article, you'd see it wasn't.
- mccarron, on 11/04/2007, -0/+7By that bold statement in the article it seems the author is confused about the difference between a Trojan and a Virus. Trojan still requires user to accept it, not knowing it's payload is compromised or dangerous. Anyone who understands history gets the term. So this is still a Mac Trojan, not the first or the last.
- elscorcho717, on 11/05/2007, -3/+10Get ready for more and more of this to happen as Leopard gains more market share
- m3th0dm4n, on 11/04/2007, -2/+9OMG TEH INFECTED MY CPU
- dagamer34, on 11/04/2007, -4/+11But this Mac "trojan" isn't a drive-by. It stops to ask for directions first before proceeding to kill your system. That's not a trojan, that's a dumb user.
- tony.pitale, on 11/02/2007, -0/+7I think it was more like: "gimme porn, gimme porn, gimme porn, gimme porn..."
- monospaced, on 11/04/2007, -0/+7In both Safari and Firefox on the Mac, one can choose to "open" or "save" a file type from the browser. The worrisome part of this "trojan" is that on the Mac, we can set the browser to automatically treat all disc images the same, which could make this "trojan" install itself before we can stop it.
Thank god I'm no idiot about to install an application on my computer to watch a little online porn. - Obvioustroll, on 11/07/2007, -0/+6"That threat is very specifically the drive-by installation of software without the user knowing or having a chance to stop it."
Sorry, but that's an explicitly false statement. The user *does* know that software is being installed and *installs it himself* - that's why it's a Trojan and not a virus.
Sheesh. -
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