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- inactive, on 10/27/2007, -12/+99Wow, you can install a defect-riddled, outdated beta build... through a major rigamarole.
Your time must be cheap. - smackhero, on 10/27/2007, -11/+91windows computer? it's called an x86 PC, moron. people _do_ run other OSes on their PCs, you know...
- Celltik, on 10/10/2007, -8/+50I stopped reading at:
"I assume that you already got Vista installed. If not, install Vista." - andregriffin, on 10/10/2007, -6/+48Renders just fine in IE7. What an elitist *****.
- Scheissenegger, on 10/10/2007, -8/+39hey, don't d0o that! it clearly states that it's illegal to try this stuff out....
- dirtyhand, on 11/12/2007, -23/+53Tying to get OS X running on a Hackintosh is NOT worth your time, trust me. If you can even get past installing the damn thing without random crashes/freezes/kernel panicks, then you will have to deal with a very buggy OS X where random things wont work like sound, ethernet, wireless, etc.
Stop being cheap, get a double shift at McD's and get yourself a real Mac. - inactive, on 11/12/2007, -0/+27Seems like way to many steps, they should just modify the install of leopard, rather than having to install tiger first. Im sure they will do that very soon
- victorguttmann, on 11/12/2007, -2/+28No! There was a reason this wasn't put out a few months ago. This was already accomplished by some of the more experienced osx86 hackers but they didn't put it out before the Leopard release because they didn't want to give Apple any chance to block the exploits they used. Albeit its pretty close to launch and they probably don't have the time to go back and change anything but still.
- knelto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23People shouldn't digg him down, he's right. I found this on osx86scene.com : http://www.osx86scene.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=f95ef44c9ab4479a6ce5418cf63fbcc3&topic=131.0
Basically, profit42 copied an install guide from someone on the forum, posted it on his site and "credited" everyone at the end. He didn't write the guide, he just put it on his site, submitted to digg, and is trying to get donations and ad money. Anyone reading this should bury this article. - MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20I would agree that's not the greatest analogy. Once again, religion and technology clash and they both walk away with no idea who won.
- lesty420, on 11/12/2007, -39/+58I'll stick with the penguin
- Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22"Putting OsX on a PC is like throwing holy water on a demon."
A very good idea? - shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18yes... they are.
- MusicalGenius, on 10/10/2007, -8/+25It isn't as wrong as refusing the right to your OS being used on a PC while you advertise that a MAC can run Windows better than a PC can.
- uradox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Thankyou
Comes to something when your refused entry into a site because of the browser your using... dont those people that support firefox support being open to choose software that is not bundled with windows? :| Goes both ways - chugger1992, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16http://proxify.org/p/011010A1000100/687474703a2f2f636f6f6c626c6f672e70726f66697434322e636f6d2f323030372f30382f30392f6475616c2d626f6f742d6f73782d6c656f706172642d776974682d76697374612d6f6e2d696e74656c616d642f3f6775696465
Proxy that lets you use IE7 to access it. Tested myself. - ozid, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17I got Tiger running on my computer and it was cool for all of two seconds until I had to patch every driver for every bit of hardware in my computer. And the intel 3945abg NEVER got patched, so it wasn't even cool to show my friends that I got OS X running because I can't email them the screenshots.
So, learning the hard way, I figured out that you either just need to buy a Mac to experience OS X in its full glory, or build (or get lucky with) a PC to very specific specs to compute normally.
/mini rant - netdroid9, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14You're correct on one point. These days, 'PC' generally refers to an IBM-PC compatible, rather than the broad terminology of 'Personal Computer'. However, Macs these days *are* IBM-PC compatible. That's why they can run IBM-PC software such as Windows, OS/2 or even MS-DOS (the IBM-PC one) natively, and why Mac OS X can run on non-Apple computers with relatively little modification.
However, more and more devices are IBM-PC compatible. Things that would previously have used dedicated systems with specialized hardware now use more standardized architectures, look at the original Xbox for an example. While it's not 100% compatible, software can be ported with relative ease, and it's certainly possible that a replacement BIOS or other software layer could make up for that difference.
Macs cost more than other IBM-PCs, but they use the same basic architecture, even built mostly using the same Intel components that other OEMs like Dell purchase. The major differences lie in a customized(?) TCPM chip, different cases and generally higher quality components (from my experience the older iMacs didn't even work with El Cheapo RAM). Hardware-wise, you could buy a Mac Pro motherboard, stick normal IBM-PC components in it and expect it to work with relatively little hassle. - Boomer7491, on 10/28/2007, -14/+27Holy ***** do you speak the truth. If you want OsX so damn bad go buy a Mac instead of dealing with this crap. Putting OsX on a PC is like throwing holy water on a demon.
- jawbreaker4fs, on 10/27/2007, -1/+14Someone's never done a stage 3 Gentoo install...
- drlha, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18Giving "OSX" an "honest try" doesn't involve pirating the OS and hacking it to run on a machine its not designed for. Also don't act like the stupid IE filtering of this ***** is in any way an example of what Apple or Mac users are like in general.
- raynar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14"Well, OS X is largely open-source, so it is "free" in the most important sense"
Um. It costs money. So its not "free" in the most important sense. - Alegoo92, on 10/10/2007, -16/+26why do you use IE? and since when do the recommended browsers come up in a ad/popup?
- Seph7, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11The only difference at the moment between them as far as I'm aware is the EFI BIOS http://www.intel.com/technology/efi/
The boot camp info page reads
"Macs use an ultra-modern industry-standard technology called EFI to handle booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even Vista, are stuck in the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate smoothly in both centuries." - aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Take a look at the hardware in a Mac. Now go out and buy that exact same hardware on newegg, put it in a different case. Why is the one in a pretty white case a Mac and the other a PC?
- tomi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Actually, it's Hackintosh, seriously.
- kaytrio, on 10/10/2007, -6/+15Yeah, I think I speak for the entire Hackintosh community when i say, why the ***** couldn't they just wait for Leopard's release so that Apple didn't have time to patch up the holes?
- mumugugu, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11This profit42 guy will only serve to doom us all.
A number of hackers at insanelymac has come to an agreement not to release any info of running osx on x86 before the official leopard release, as Apple might it leopard harder to boot on x86. I think this is very sensible decision. - swindmill, on 10/27/2007, -6/+15OK. What does that have to do with leopard running on generic pc's...
- Akkarin, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14If you have to use Cpu-Z to find out if your cpu has sse capabilities then installing osx 10.5 on your pc isn't for you
- DaffyDuck, on 10/18/2007, -0/+8Right now? Good for you.
- netdroid9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Also, tell Digg they suck for filtering out whitespace :(.
- johnIRL, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Its not an IE "rendering" issue...
- aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9It's retarded for a site that will likely work perfectly fine in IE to block IE users. You could skip writing the extra CSS to make it render correctly in IE, but it's stupid to go out of your way to block a certain browser.
Also, a lot of people use IE at work, a lot of people don't want to go through the hassle of installing a new browser. Especially with IE 7, a lot of people don't see any reason to download a different browser. - KibibyteBrain, on 11/03/2007, -2/+10The Hackintosh, designed in Crackertino.
- Reno582, on 10/28/2007, -0/+8Steve-O won't let me build my own Mac so this is what we're forced to do.
Hardware lock-in is not my idea of a good computer. - neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8"have you tried building a PC to the specs of a Mac when the Mac's released?"
Um, yeah. I recently built a desktop with the same spec as the $1500 iMac. It had a much better better video card too. $800. I also built it last February so I guess I was ahead of the game.
Proceed with the digging down. - shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Why don't you read the comment right ***** above yours?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8While I disagree with rimantas' elitist comment, and I really don't like your caps (caps lock is NOT cruise control to awesome), I have to point out one small error in your argument.
If you mean "supercomputer" in terms of a single machine, most of them (all of them, i think) don't run windows, they run Linux.
And if you mean "supercomputer" in terms of distributed clusters, look at Virginia Tech. They used PowerMac G5's for a while, and built a cluster with Mac Mini's.
So, yeah, you can run a supercomputer with Mac, especially thanks to Xgrid.
Other than that, Alienware comps are nice, but have a ridiculous markup as well. - dataminer, on 10/10/2007, -13/+20Refusing to let you into the site until you use a browser other than IE is joke, right? Maybe I should get a haircut too.
- BobMysterioso, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12Actually, I'm a web developer and I find IE7 quite standards compliant. I do the majority of my development for clients using Safari, and I can say that Firefox lets me get away with a lot more than IE7. It always works in FF - standards or not - but in IE7 it is much more picky because it isn't nearly as forgiving. In the end, if it works in IE7, will almost always work in Opera and Safari.
- Me1000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Dude, dont act like a fanboy! he is right, the build of this beta is OLD!
- j.carcinogen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6It is just slang for just using a non apple computer to run OS X. insanelymac.com or just google for osx86 (the proper term).
- aristotle0dude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7TIme is only cheap if you earn minimum wage at a part time job. For those of us that work 40+ hours a week and earn a decent "salary", free time is valuable and macs are cheap.
- mercurysquad, on 10/26/2007, -2/+8I've been using Tiger as the main OS on my Dell, in addition to Ubuntu, and it's been pretty rock solid once I figured out all the proper .kexts to use.
- wiregen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Apple hasn't patched the big hole they have in there product line in between the mini and the mac pro. (There was a digg article about this.) I didn't want to cough up $3000 for a Mac Pro and the mac mini was too weak. So I decided to build my own (which actually benchmarks higher than a Mac Pro in Xbench) How? Simple..get a Bad Axe 2 board, Q6600, 4gb ram, 7900GTX soft-modded to a Quadro 5500 (OSX support is native) - everything works out of the box. Do more research on the topic before you actually start bashing. Trust me, I love my Santa Rosa Macbook Pro. As far as the desktop scene is concerned. I have yet to see any other viable option. OSX runs smooth, I'm able to run all the programs (including parallels) I use and ITS STABLE.
- brentris, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5There's no step 48!
- shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10knowledge is different from intelligence. just because he doesn't memorize the "SSE3#CPUs_with_SSE3" wikipedia article every time a change is made, doesn't mean he's not capable of following a guide.
- tomi, on 10/26/2007, -0/+5What? You don't like getting your hands dirty? Your name is rather contradictory then.
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