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- Gorgonzola44, on 11/07/2008, -10/+59It just works.™
- AmyVernon, on 11/06/2008, -3/+25Hmmm. I was going to get a new MacBook Pro in the next week or so, but after reading this and seeing other issues folks have been having withthe MBPs lately, I'm thinking I'm going to wait a little bit 'til they get more of these issues sorted out.
- basye, on 11/06/2008, -1/+20You're always wise to wait for at least the 2nd revision whenever a new manufacturing model is introduced. Yes, it's tough...but let other people be the guinea pigs. I did that with my nearly 2-yr. old MBP and it turned out to the best revision in that line in regards to issues.
- ninjadave, on 11/07/2008, -1/+20Though I own several Apple products, I dugg you up. There's been a gap in quality in the last 2 years. I think it's due to the fast growth of Apple hurting their quality control.
- Commodus, on 11/06/2008, -3/+19What's odd is that my new MacBook is just fine -- I've been on a couple of APs and never dropped my connection once (knock on wood). Sounds like they either use a different chipset or there's some kind of interference.
- autoy, on 11/06/2008, -3/+18One word, one letter: Revision A. Just wait for B.
- BuddyDoQ, on 11/07/2008, -0/+11Had/Have this issue with the older Mac Book. This has been a problem with the line for a while, and the general consensus points to software, rather than hardware. It never drops for me while I'm in XP via boot camp, however it will randomly drop while in OS X, and it's annoying enough that I hardly boot that way these days. Of course, apple says to ditch my router and go with an Airport to solve the issue. I just assume they get their drivers up to speed and quit jerking everyone around.
- eazman, on 11/07/2008, -0/+10"It just works." Is an apple motto used in their switch campaigns, hence the trademark symbol. The posts make fun of the fact the clearly it doesn't "just work".
- inactive, on 11/07/2008, -0/+8Why were you calling your internet service provider because your wireless wasn't working?
- AmyVernon, on 11/07/2008, -0/+7Sage advice... Now I just have to get my husband to wait. He's getting my laptop when I get my MBP. :-)
- ghebert, on 11/07/2008, -3/+9Nobody forced you to buy that machine...
- Rikkochet, on 11/07/2008, -1/+6It has nothing to do with Apple's quality control slipping, but rather their user base. Apple is hot again and they have their product on more desks and pockets than ever before. And with that kind of penetration, people are going to run across bugs.
Look at all the iPhone problems - if the iPhone had an install base of what the iMacs have, you wouldn't hear much because there's that fewer people using them, and fewer yet who do "unexpected" things.
That's why I can't take raving fanboys from any product seriously - they're just pimping a niche product that only "blows M$ out of the water!!!" because there's hardly anyone taxing the limits of the system design.
I'm still buying a MacBook this weekend but I fully expect that it won't be without problems. Software simply doesn't work that way. - inactive, on 11/07/2008, -0/+5PEBKAC
- ninjadave, on 11/07/2008, -1/+6Dugg for awareness. The more this is widely known, the faster Apple will need to address it.
- Omadhaun, on 11/07/2008, -0/+4My MBP from June 2007 & my newer MBP from July 2008 both have issues maintaining a wireless connection. This is really annoying, especially for online gaming. I've been hoping Apple would fix it, but here we are 1.5 years after I started having these problems, and they aren't even fixed in the newest hardware.
- artinge3, on 11/07/2008, -0/+4I have an aluminum imac from october 20007, during last summer at room temperatures above 24˚c my airport card would go to temperatures above 64˚c which is well within operating conditions, however anytime above this temp it would drop out and stop working. Soon the problem was happening as low as 59˚ c.
I took it into the apple store for warranty when i was still covered and they couldn't replicate the problem because their stupid store is air-conditioned to about 14˚c. Now i have an imac with expired warranty and an airport that won't work in a summer temperature room. This blows.......i just woke up about a 5 mins ago so nothing makes too much sense....hopefully this problem gets addressed soon though. - inactive, on 11/07/2008, -4/+8What's with the trademark symbol?
- burstaneurysm, on 11/07/2008, -0/+4This is very likely a software issue. My 13" MacBook is suffering from flaky wireless too.
- inactive, on 11/07/2008, -0/+4Every since that latest wireless update, my wireless has sucked. I'll be browsing and it all of a sudden just times out. This is on the latest 13" whitebook.
- brundlefly76, on 11/07/2008, -4/+8I have the new macbook, and I really wish Apple would stop focusing on stuff like 'aluminum unibody construction' - when a wifi antenna surrounded by aluminum doesnt work very well.
I cant believe I paid $1600 for this notebook and it has no expresscard, firewire, or monitor ports, and only 2 (!) USB. I need an external USB hub just to plug in my damn ipod, and a f(*&^ing $30 dongle just to plug in my monitor.
the whole 'form over function' thing is getting old with apple hardware - real old. - inactive, on 11/28/2008, -1/+5I have one of the 15 inch MBPs and also one of the iMacs.
I have never had trouble with either in regards to wireless. I wonder if this is being blown out of proportion like so many apple hardware issues.
I have had way more issues with Dell and HP than I have ever had with Apple.
And their whole battery issue from 2006? They will take back the faulty batteries even outside of warranty time.
I wouldn't worry about buying, it's probably just an overreaction like so many consumer things.
And if it does effect you? Apple will make it right. - inactive, on 11/07/2008, -1/+5HOLY ***** NO ***** WAI
- jemka, on 11/07/2008, -0/+4"It just works."
- Wuss, on 11/06/2008, -1/+5Funny. I commented the other day about the track pad issues, but I'm also running into this as well. There were times where even after rebooting, I still wouldnt' see the SSID of my router, even though I could see it on other wireless devices.
- TehDoctor, on 11/07/2008, -0/+3Yes, good advice. This is why I own an iPhone 3G and not the 1st generation. And if you don't need the latest hardware, you can get really good discounts on fairly recent hardware. I got a MBP that wasn't made before February this year well below list price.
- bobdob, on 11/07/2008, -0/+3Well, you get what you pay for. Oh, wait.
- ninjadave, on 11/07/2008, -0/+3I think thats the very definition of slipping quality control. When there is more of a user base, that doesn't necessarily mean bugs are more likely to happen, but more likely to be found.
These kinds of problems are definite flaws that need to be fixed. It isn't the same as 'oh well, thats a goofy bug' but a show stopping 'wtf, I was connected to the internet a second ago?!' - Frazzlet, on 11/07/2008, -1/+4No probs with wireless...
But the case burns my hand if I dare try playing a game. - nicc, on 11/07/2008, -0/+3kind of makers me glad I havent upgraded any of my PPC Macs to the Intel versions yet.
no issues of any sort on my side... - bbardlbradd, on 11/07/2008, -0/+3I've been active on the Apple support forums for a while now, and have had my Macbook Pro (unibody) for a week or two, and I have to say, there are a lot of people out there with a lot of different problems. Most of them only effect the earliest builds, like the loose hinges and these sorts of things. The only issues I've had so far are related to the kernel build and I've been able to curb the problems manually. For instance the sleep issues can be fixed by changing the hibernation mode from 3 (the default) to 0, which is the method the PPC's used. There's nothing wrong with the older hibernation method, so it's not like I'm suffering.
I don't have the wifi problems either, sure it's slightly weaker than my iBook, but that's going from kevlar to aluminum. It's expected. It's only a bar's difference from a distance, but beyond that... ? - refreshments, on 11/07/2008, -0/+3I've had a 13 inch macbook since the initial release, and have been dealing with this problem since early september with no help from apple. I'm guessing it's a software issue that will hopefully get resolved soon, now that it's public. :|
- brundlefly76, on 11/07/2008, -3/+6Actually, Apple forced me too.
I am an iPhone developer - its not like I can go buy a Dell. - ncc74656m, on 11/07/2008, -6/+8It's a Mac, the issues never get sorted out, because they don't have issues. Steve Jobs told me so.
- wheresaldo, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2I run Vista on the Macbook Pro and I have no problems, it might be the Mac OS
- farplaner, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2No problems here... although I do have the trackpad issue.
- inactive, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2One thing i noticed. my co worker got a new ipod touch and next to my original touch, he could see way less WIFI hotspots.
also the plastic area over the antenna is a lot smaller..
new Macbook is a solid block of metal, maybe it blocks some of the signal as well. - SnapETom, on 11/07/2008, -1/+3Same here, and I followed the threads. I'd sit 10 feet away from my router and watch the signal strength fluctuate after a few minutes.
Apple seemed to be complete dicks about replacing the wifi chips. There's some stories from people going into the stores, making a "Genius" watch the signal strength bars drop, and then being told, "There's a lot of wifi connection traffic here at the store," and getting the repair denied.
For me, I went to my university's repair center. They're Apple authorized and care more about taking care of their customers than protecting Apple's bottom line. They replaced my wifi chip with no hassle and I've had no problems ever since. - addi, on 11/07/2008, -1/+3i have this problem on my macbook pro ... and its getting old.
- annjay, on 11/07/2008, -2/+4I had to face this problem
- derekJAB, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2No problems with my MacBook Pro either.
- beccadarby, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2I don't like the new aluminum body. I got my MacBook in January (a white plastic one) but have been having the same sorts of trouble with Airport over the past three weeks or so. Was it a software update, maybe?
- TVarmy, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2His point is that it's an entirely new design for Apple's laptops, and they need time to work these problems out. Perhaps you're referring to the iMac? In that case, I'm not sure why they haven't fixed that. Given a few weeks, I'm sure they'll make some minor tweaks few will notice that will make a design that's more reliable, and probably form a silent recall, where any person who brings a MacBook Pro with the problem will get the fix under warranty with no questions asked.
- scheming, on 11/07/2008, -1/+3i have not had any problems with wireless connections with my new macbook pro. the wireless range may be stifled by the aluminum body, but this is only noticeable when actually reaching the end of an access point's range
- mrsteveman1, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2Well in the past people said the old plastic macbook had better wifi signal reception than the MBP which has always been metal.
Or it could be a chipset or driver problem. But this seems to happen VERY commonly on Apple stuff in the last year or 2, every few weeks i hear about apple trying to fix wifi signal problems. - extratired, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2I own a new MBP and my wireless connection is way better than the one I had with my acer aspire.
- ziggotron, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2There is actually a plastic portion of the case for the WiFi. It's on the MacBook and MacBook Pro's hinges (When closed you can see a black piece of plastic along the hinge).
- mrblack, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2have had the unibody macbook pro for a week, no drop outs or any issues at all, not even the clicking issues. I'm connecting to a Airport Express (wireless n).
- digginamish, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2You M$ fanboys are all the same! Just because you read some vicious rumor on the Internet doesn't make it true. "Steve doesn't make junk" is the mantra you need to learn. Say it 53 times every morning while you gaze lovingly at your attractive Apple product. Everything will magically "just work" after that.
Note: This comment brought to you by Sarcasm Monthly Magazine (just in case) - thrillho, on 11/07/2008, -0/+2I have the same problem with the Macbook Pro. The wireless is absolutely unreliable. Some days it can't be used at all. Yes, I know what I'm doing, and no, it is not interference.
- ninjadave, on 11/07/2008, -1/+3*Faster* being the key word here. Reading comprehension fail.
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