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- YodaJones, on 11/07/2008, -5/+87I think Microsoft should put bacon inside IE. Everybody likes bacon.
- luke255, on 11/07/2008, -28/+99Please stop holding back the internet Microsoft. Do what you do best and follow Apple's lead.
- pprkut, on 11/07/2008, -1/+58For the love of web developers, do it already!!!
- chadu, on 11/07/2008, -1/+47this would simplify my work dramatically.
- martalli, on 11/07/2008, -5/+45I almost wonder if the next article will be "Balmer considering BSD as base for Windows 8"
- Rico74, on 11/07/2008, -1/+37If Microsoft were to move to WebKit, it would leave Firefox as the only major browser that could trace it lineage (and maybe small parts of its source code) back to NCSA Mosaic.
- WoollyMittens, on 11/07/2008, -2/+38Even if they do... the web developers of this world will still have to deal with Internet Explorer 6 users for a decade.
Users with a pirated version of XP or stubborn corporate users still make 40% of page visits by Internet Explorer 6. - leehord, on 11/07/2008, -1/+31Please let this be true, for sake of web standards...please!!
- app103, on 11/07/2008, -1/+30I wonder how many existing desktop applications that would break.
- dullnation, on 11/07/2008, -4/+26Microsoft replaced their CEO with someone with the first name of Steve?
- diggerman32, on 11/07/2008, -3/+23Oh please let this happen... A few of my fellow web designers have been considering suicide rather than making there sites IE compatible.
- subface, on 11/07/2008, -4/+21Seems like the kind of move MS typically doesn't do (anything non-proprietary), but oh man, would that be great. I think Obama needs to have a talk with them about it.
- Shahreel, on 11/07/2008, -1/+14Do it Microsoft!
- Berkana, on 11/07/2008, -0/+12Well, if WebKit passes Acid2 and Acid3, and runs Javascript at lightning speed, why the hell not? Web design would become a hell of a lot less complicated as soon as a Webkit based MS browser displaces IE6 and 7.
- fuxxx, on 11/07/2008, -0/+12My ***** university and workplace use IE6, and half the internet doesnt work on it.
I can understand my work because we use a lot of web applications, but for uni I just dont get it. It's a browser, using something newer than IE6 is not going to bring down the internet, especially when the wireless network allows anybody with any kind of OS or browser access to the uni network - falafelkiosken, on 11/07/2008, -6/+18except that when Microsoft copies anything they make it worse, not better
- nerddtvg, on 11/07/2008, -1/+12The link worked for me, you're was just a list of articles and ads.
- mithrasinvictus, on 11/07/2008, -2/+12@murdats
Vendor lock-in, marketing, OS pre-installation by manufacturers, buying up the competition and lots of FUD. - SteveMax, on 11/07/2008, -1/+11Wait a minute, this is NOT an Onion story‽‽
- philomatic, on 02/08/2009, -1/+11Why exactly do you think Apple sucks?
Webkit and Safari (for mac at least) are both awesome. - shinkou, on 11/07/2008, -1/+11Great! Windows will be "*nix Inside" in the near future! :D
- mithrasinvictus, on 11/07/2008, -0/+10"their"
- darkism, on 11/07/2008, -0/+9ITT: Someone who has never used Safari on a Mac.
- dullnation, on 11/07/2008, -1/+10Don't say that! They'll change their mind!
- amdlinux, on 11/07/2008, -2/+11We have seen this, the "adoption" of standards by MS.
They call it internally "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" strategy..... - mikeabundo, on 11/07/2008, -1/+10First smart thing they'd ever do with IE.
- Elranzer, on 11/07/2008, -0/+9Would that be such a bad thing?
- blackgt93, on 11/07/2008, -1/+10@murdats
Just because you're the leader doesn't mean you make quality products. All you have to do is look at Anheuser-Busch or GM. - inactive, on 11/07/2008, -0/+9@hardeep1singh
OS X is not Linux whatsoever. It was based on a BSD kernel.
"OS X is the real linux, look at their file system"
By this line of reasoning, we would also conclude that Solaris is the real Linux, BSD is the real Linux, AIX is the real Linux, Irix is the real Linux, QNX Neutrino is the real Linux, Haiku is the real Linux, BeOS is the real Linux, Syllable is the real Linux, AmigaOS is the real Linux, ...
An operating system is much, MUCH more than a directory naming convention. - grumpyrain, on 11/07/2008, -0/+8Why do you say that? I mean their original TCP stack was based on the one from BSD.
- axela, on 11/07/2008, -1/+9Webkit = KHTML + some fixes from apple + some fixes from nokia
If you love webkit please thanks the extremely talented KDE developers! - NJHewitt, on 11/07/2008, -1/+8No. They're part of a large group of contributors.
- grumpyrain, on 11/07/2008, -2/+9Not withstanding, why did you post it to Apple? Apart from the fact that they did a similar thing with Safari, it has nothing to do with Apple.
- falafelkiosken, on 11/07/2008, -2/+9great reasoning
- etx313, on 11/07/2008, -0/+7WebKit, Gecko, Anything, DO IT.
- Altotus, on 11/07/2008, -0/+6Windows has slowly been dragged into UNIX land for some time. You even see a lot of Linux desktop environment elements seeping into it, but there's also quite a bit underneath going that way too.
I think one of the ideas of .Net was to slowly commoditize the OS to the point where the OS product can be phased out in favor of a .Net layer above it. The OS division is one of the few profitable divisions of MS, but it's also astonishingly expensive to maintain, and the OS development has been anything but agile. If they could ultimately replace everyone's reliance on the OS with a reliance on .Net, they could garner lock-in on all OS platforms. - Altotus, on 11/07/2008, -0/+6Safari and Chrome are the same -- both WebKit.
- akkibaba, on 11/07/2008, -0/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Documents
"While discussing ways of competing with open source, Document I suggests that one reason that open source projects have been able to enter the market for servers is the use of standardized protocols. It then suggests that this can be stopped by "extending these protocols and developing new protocols" and "de-commoditize protocols & applications." This policy has been nicknamed "embrace, extend, extinguish"." - inactive, on 11/07/2008, -2/+8Two words: ***** YES.
- Macintoshreader, on 11/07/2008, -0/+6Spotlight is a good example.
- MacParrot, on 11/07/2008, -2/+8Everyone copies from each other. Time to let it go
- MacParrot, on 11/07/2008, -5/+11Microsoft is already losing massive market share for IE because of FireFox. Why would they use the same render engine and give people further reason to switch? Webkit on the other hand is said to be faster and Safari is still a distant third making it less of a threat.
BTW saying Apple sucks is about as relevant as calling Windows a virus magnet (which it isn't anymore as exploits now are more likely to call upon human engineering to gain access to your system) and really makes you sound like an idiot. - fugazied, on 11/07/2008, -0/+5If only they could follow their Apple in making their OS unix based.
- Myztry, on 11/07/2008, -1/+6It's not about following Apple's lead. Not uniquely.
Look at any market. Absolutely any that Microsoft has made it big in. They were all existing markets.
Microsoft excels in leveraged imitation. The few attempts at innovation have all been sink holes.
A well funded army can much better capture a castle then build one. - luchid, on 11/08/2008, -0/+5You should inform yourself. Apple is the biggest upstream contributor to the Webkit project.
- Moby22, on 11/07/2008, -0/+5Not to nitpick, but it's "bald-faced."
http://www.answers.com/bald-faced
Otherwise, yes, it is surprising. I would be even more surprised if it actually happened. I suppose it depends on whether the culture at Microsoft is still protectionist (i.e. if we make our browser like everyone else, why would they stay?) or if it has changed to put an emphasis on adoption (i.e. let's make our browser work the best so that everyone will like it again). - Altotus, on 11/07/2008, -0/+5Chrome = WebKit
- pixelguru, on 11/07/2008, -1/+5No no no... ActiveX in a browser was a bad idea from the beginning, and should be killed immediately. Build a standalone player if they must, but ActiveX in IE has caused nothing but problems.
- Elranzer, on 11/07/2008, -0/+4Back when IE was not dominating, they really tried hard to make it better.
- RyanJones, on 11/07/2008, -0/+4In the words of president Henry Hayes from Stargate SG1 "Never going to happen".
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