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- xkorbin, on 10/29/2007, -5/+175Am I the only one who questions why this is in the apple category?
- deadbaby, on 10/29/2007, -39/+160That's what you get for using Windows. Read your EULA -- Microsoft owns the OS -- you lease it. They can do whatever they want. Until more people actually start switching away from Windows they don't care if it pisses you off or not. If you keep coming back for more they'll keep treating you like *****.
- stalefries, on 10/31/2007, -26/+137Just today, a friend of mine was telling me that his brand-new Vista laptop had decided that it was no longer "genuine". All he had done was upgrade his webcam's driver. Why did he have to upgrade the driver? It wasn't compatible with Vista.
- mikesol, on 10/29/2007, -36/+111First of all, it didn't bring every ***** computer to a standstill. I administer 100 desktop machines and while my network utilization jumped a lot, it hasn't been enough that I've even had to do anything about it. On a competent, switched Gigabit network, it's not a problem. Perhaps on something slower it would be, but in that case you would not have your WSUS server automatically approving every update, would you?
Secondly, I can't see it bringing a local machine to a standstill. It's doing fine on my oldest running machine here, a P2-450 with 256mb RAM. All it does is activate the Indexing Service and provide a nice interface to it, as far as I can tell.
Thirdly, this is a story on the Mac Observer. The bias is obvious, and the headline is oddly sensational: THOUSANDS OF PCS! Well, I hate it break it to you, but there are ***** tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of PCs. Thousands is small ***** potatoes. You could make a headline like "RUNNING OUT OF DRIVE SPACE BRINGS THOUSANDS OF PCS TO STANDSTILL!" Who cares?
Fourthly, it's basically Microsoft being nice and rolling out a new feature to an old OS. If you don't like it, ***** off and disable it. - inactive, on 10/29/2007, -14/+68Happened to us here , after the update all the computers came to a crawl. They were infested with a desktop search feature, the the indexing eats up the cpu. I had to uninstall it and the last updates. Looks like an attempt to take from "google desktop" search. Bottom line it wasn't needed, or asked for, it wasn't a security update, it should have been optional and not shoved down our throats
- mikesol, on 10/28/2007, -5/+56Mac OS is licensed in almost exactly the same fashion. Unless you run Linux, which many of us do, you're under the same terms.
- mikesol, on 10/27/2007, -6/+55Uh, pretty sure that Honda has a huge market presence all across North America, as does Toyota. Unless you live in the middle of ***** nowhere, you're going to see a very high percentage of Japanese cars on the road.
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -11/+47I wish I could bury things multiple times. This deserves to be down for Inaccurate, Spam and Wrong Topic.
The REAL page the submitter should have linked to:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/25/windows_up ... - chalkboy, on 10/28/2007, -13/+43ALL retail software is this way
- BrandonPerry, on 10/31/2007, -13/+42HA! I can't wait! I work in a computer repair shop and have been in Germany for two weeks! When I get back to work on Monday I will have a gold mine!
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -5/+30Microsoft. Filling the pockets of geek squad workers everywhere.
- Orsenfelt, on 10/27/2007, -15/+38This point is ALWAYS brought up. The fact of the matter is that Microsoft are currently supporting 3 Major operating systems, Spanning several hundred MILLION varying computers. Problems will happen. The alternatives might be better just now, They would be in exactly the same positon as MS if they were supporting anywhere near the same amount of setups.
- mobilehavoc, on 10/29/2007, -3/+26Anti-Microsoft submission in the Apple category? Yup, welcome to Digg
- FatShady, on 10/29/2007, -13/+34Yeah - actually it was an accident. Try getting your Windows news from somewhere other than MacObserver.
- r00tus3r, on 10/29/2007, -8/+28To all the morons in here saying his friend is full of *****, there has already been a topic on digg about this, it's a known issue. Legit copies of vista can suddenly unvalidate themselves when you install new drivers. Jeeze, do some reading before you start talking.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/27/2007, -6/+25Americans are afraid of change? That 95% market share is worldwide, not just America. Microsoft actually has a higher share outside the US than from within (most countries).
- StarlessKnight, on 10/27/2007, -2/+20Yes, but no. This particular instance is entirely Operatinig System software based, not related to the computer it is installed on. This is their code doing something it wasn't suppose to.
FTA: [The incident is the second in as many months where administrators thought they had locked down their machines and had obtained configuration control.
The problem starts when the search software starts to index the PC. It's particularly bad when it happens on a server. "The admins at my place were in a flap this morning because Windows Desktop Search 3.01 had suddenly started installing itself on desktops throughout the company," one administrator said.]
When you turn something off, you expect it to be off. Not in waiting. Not paused. Not scheduled in the future. Off, as in not a possibility. - geminitojanus, on 10/27/2007, -7/+25This wasn't a sysadmin screwup, it was a Microsoft patch engineer screwup. They pushed a patch through Windows Update that patched the indexer, but for some reason also patched the system's configuration to run the indexer, even if it was disabled by the sysadmin. So, as soon as all of the machines were patched, they started griding away indexing their drives.
It's not a serious mistake, but I can definitely understand a few admins being disgruntled over this kind of Microsoft behavior (first forcing the patch down their throat, then it automatically re-enabling the Indexer; these admins are going to have to re-disable it and purge any indexes created, which could take an enormous amount of time). Microsoft shouldn't be in the position to force a user to use a product, not after its antitrust convictions on two continents for doing just that. - TBagwell, on 10/27/2007, -4/+21I understand and agree with most of what you said, but how does it prove your point?
- Ocelot13, on 10/27/2007, -13/+30i have all the latest updates on vista and it runs fine.
why must there be windows bashing all the time? - ZaZ2137, on 10/31/2007, -2/+17actually vista does allow installation of xp drivers in certain cases, in this case he doesn't even say that it was an xp driver he had to upgrade, he just said the driver wasnt compatible with vista which could be one of 10000 reasons why it wasn't, get educated before you make retarded comments
- chris9902, on 10/29/2007, -6/+21It's refreshing to see as you read down the comments people start to understand what they're talking about instead of the mouth pieces who just troll digg all day getting the final say.
And why is this in the Apple section? can't you idiots even pretend to be unbiased to Lord Jobs. - gugin, on 10/28/2007, -1/+15I remember the days when digg.com had intelligent people commenting.
- nextyoyoma, on 10/27/2007, -3/+16RETAIL
- LordofChaosIori, on 10/29/2007, -0/+11"I'm slightly pissed off at m-shift+4 right now."
- iFungus, on 10/27/2007, -9/+20I'm thinking of... oh yeah. GPL.
- theprez, on 10/27/2007, -3/+13My primary systems have always been Macs. I dugg up Orsenfelt's comment because I believe he has a good point, but you're just an idiot. And what's this story doing in the Apple section.
- chsbrgr, on 10/27/2007, -0/+10Yet strangely the volunteer irc/forum support you'll get from your linux peers is usually simple, quick and effective. Ever been on the phone with Microsoft? Basement dwellers FTW.
- l00s3r, on 10/29/2007, -4/+14The Pirated versions don't have this problem, it's only the legit copies. Ironic isn't it?
- Falldog, on 10/29/2007, -1/+11No better way to get it dugg up up up
- imikedaman, on 10/27/2007, -3/+13"Hundreds of users are reporting an inability to properly startup after installing Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)."
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20071026 ... - FatShady, on 10/27/2007, -2/+11"do some reading before you start talking"
That's good advice. The issue (and related article) that you're talking about is in reference to video drivers, not webcam drivers. The video card counts toward the activation hash. Things like webcams don't.
Good work proving your point, though. - mayonaise15, on 10/27/2007, -2/+11The fact that it slowed down the machines is kind of secondary. The fact that this update got installed at all is the bigger issue.
- inactive, on 10/27/2007, -1/+9Apple does have something similar to Parallels. It's called Parallels.
- FatShady, on 10/27/2007, -5/+13I heard that's the OS Ron Paul uses.
- markkemperman, on 10/27/2007, -2/+10mmm, 'Microsoft Update Brings Thousands of PCs to Standstill'. Sounds familiar, some of us Mac users got a similar update today with a similar effect, called Mac OSX Leopard...
- elementfire, on 10/29/2007, -4/+12No, they just send you viruses with every iPod you buy!
http://www.apple.com/support/windowsvirus/
(While we're in the realm of hyperbole.) - quikboy, on 10/27/2007, -2/+10Apple-fan site overexaggerates on a not so good Windows update for a really small group of users.
Yep, Apple-fan sites really do like to hate on MS, and push this kind of stuff into Digg. Do we really need to see any more of this? - StarlessKnight, on 11/02/2007, -2/+10@nextyoyoma: You *can* buy Linux (see: Red Hat). You really don't need to, but you can.
- HelplessSEAL, on 10/27/2007, -8/+15just how did that sys admin say "m$" out loud? I'm not that great with the senseless Microsoft bashing lingo, someone needs to explain
- GruntboyX, on 10/27/2007, -10/+17Ok....First of all This update occurred on a WSUS system. Basically it only effected corporate systems. Now while a few admins might be pissy. In a corporate environment you have no rights to "your" PC. Im sorry, you dont own it and if IT wants to be a total prick and revoke admin access to your machine so you cant install software, you have no right to complain. Just a little perspective..
Secondly. This is happening...on thousands....God my corporation has thousands of PC's. A couple of incorrectly managed IT infrastructures can produce "thousands" of oppies. Now if it happened on every Damn PC . I might be a little pissed. But this affects only Corporate installations. And as a user i couldnt care less. It doesnt effect me doing my job. And my PC is more than fast enough to handle some drive hashing.
finally as a user of MDS. It is defaulted to index only when the PC is not active....so i doubt seriously it grounded PC's to a halt. And to top it all off. If your corporation is still using machines that would be effected by a desktop search client..you have a real ***** IT department, and a poor company. In this economy i doubt youll have a job by the end of next year. - StarlessKnight, on 10/28/2007, -1/+8What does Windows Update, regarding Windows Indexing, have to do with piracy? They incorrectly flagged an update, it got pushed through WSUS, and hilarity ensued. Are you talking about WGA?
- Leiterfluid, on 10/28/2007, -2/+9I manage the WSUS server at my organization, and this update never touched any of our machines. I think this problem is due to administrators putting too much faith in the auto-approval settings, rather than reviewing each update and approving only the relevant ones. This was not categorized as neither a critical nor security update.
Leave it to lazy administrators to blame-shift something they either misconfigured or misunderstood to Microsoft. - Po0py, on 10/27/2007, -12/+19Whilst I usually roll my eyes at Mac sites pointing out flaws in windows OS's this time I can forgive. I can recall two times in the last six months when I have left my vista system running overnight, locked down, but upon waking up I find that the system has rebooted due to an update that I did not ask for. Sometimes Microsft seems to shoot themselves in the foot with these things. They need to learn how to be more conscientious.
- superkendall, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6Where are you from, the 1980's? Your anti-American rant holds no water when you realize Americans love change, don't mind buying japanese cars at all (they have been very popular for a FEW DECADES now!). That sad, change is for the young and always has been which is why you see the percentage of college Mac users skyrocketing where the general population lags behind percentage wise.
You are also being misled by accepting figures that include things like cash register PC's as total market share, which blindsides you do large consumer increases in Mac sales which are more to the home - until they aren't. - BlackJackJester, on 10/28/2007, -1/+7@StarlessKnight - yea..and you aren't paying for the OS, you're paying for their support of the OS
- Lennalf, on 10/27/2007, -1/+7I don't know that people are really afraid to buy macs. If computers scare you, macs are actually the way to go. I mean... the tower is IN the monitor (for iMacs). That's pretty ***** awesome for a person who is clueless about how to setup a computer. Personally I am not a Mac guy, but I would probably recommend one for a person who is afraid of technology in general. Using an iMac is almost as easy as using a Nintendo! Plug it in and press "on" and you're basically set... and you never have to worry about compatibility. Just remember to blow on your cartridges when they get dusty...
- grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, on 10/27/2007, -0/+6Hard to say which is better tho they're both improvements these days imo
- mrjit, on 10/28/2007, -4/+10Any knowledgeable self respecting admin uses WSUS with verified and tested updates only. The admins that don't, but have the option to, need to go back to plugging in cables.
- insomniac8400, on 10/27/2007, -3/+9Why would you have indexing enabled to begin with? In my experience the search feature in windows is rarely used. Definitely not used enough to justify having indexing enabled.
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