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- Sethwm2, on 10/10/2007, -5/+90Every chance I get to post about supporting the 3rd party applications for the iPhone I will. I am sorry for everyone who are sick and tired of the iPhone articles but I am fully behind the push to make the iPhone open
- hobgobbler, on 10/10/2007, -3/+56I'd bet my butthole they promised AT&T they'd do whatever it takes to keep Skype off the iPhone, and that's what's creating this ridiculous situation with no 3rd party applications.
- onezero2000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+30I agree that of the apps so far, only a few have been very useful, but truthfully, no one is forcing anyone to install the Installer.app. At any time someone can delete it, or restore their phone. If an app is bad, then just take it off. Installer itself is in great shape, so is the NES emulator.
Summerboard is pretty good as well. Generally most everything by "Nate True" is well written, and integrated into the iPhone UI. What I want is to continue to have the choice. With my OS X system, I can install or not install anything I want, it doesn't affect anyone else's experience. The iPhone is a computer, it should act like one. - jurvusbob, on 10/10/2007, -3/+31are you aware that this is a story about the iphone and 3rd party apps?
- EBFoxbat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
- kjmatthews, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21"If users flood them with requests to work with the community, they will have to."
As long as the community continues buying iPhones, "they" will pretty much be able to do anything they want. - Freigeist, on 10/10/2007, -9/+26Let Apple know by not buying it.
- FatherTom, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19Isn't that obvious that if Apple has any plan for opening the iPhone they won't do it before Leopard gets released? Presumably if any development tool that comes with OS X gets updated in the process then it's not worth porting the current version "to the iPhone". They'd better wait for the new OS X and let it all out then.
- EBFoxbat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
- donlaverty, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10dear steve, dear whoever,
i live in germany, so all i know about the iphone is from the media - i never saw a real one.
from what i've seen the iphone is one of the greatest new gadgets around - it's so much more than just a phone with a great music player
but please:
- allow _real_ 3rd party apps for the iphone (the widget stuff you recently announced does not count), allow pretty much every thing you can (maybe despite of the simlock, i do understand that the carriers _love_ simlocks)
- support developers in any possible way (you are good at that - look at all the nice sdks, tutorials, manuals, development tools out there) - there is so much great software for the mac out there that would not have happened otherwise.
- stop telling you have to be protective to preserve the user experience or to maintain security - it's os x it is running (at least you keep telling that), don't you trust it's security anymore?
- stop ripping off european customers (EUR399 is $560) - that applies to all apple products!
- allow easy and affordable battery replacements
- allow linux synchronization (that applies to the whole ipod line as well)
- stop messing with ring tones - if i buy a song at the store or import a cd there is no reason not to allow - don't listen to the labels who say otherwise
- stop scaring us - if you allowed reasonable interaction with the phone nobody would have to end up with an ibrick!
i will be patient for some time, but if you don't change your policies i promise i will get me a nokia n95-8g or the like despite of it's crappy screen, it's crappy look, it's crappy interface or it's short battery life.
now stop ***** us, stop taking our freedom away, stop scaring us and go to work (oh and please don't forget 3g and gps while you're at it) - alex7575, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Tacojohn took the RTFA expression to the next level: he doesn't even read the summary, heck he probably just saw "Apple" on the header and starting typing.
- dillweed33, on 10/10/2007, -13/+20This is pointless. Do you really think Apple is going to change their policy based on a small percentage of users? I bet most people are perfectly happy with their iPhones as is. Yes, that's right, MOST iPhone users are NOT elitist Digg users but are average joes who want the iPhone because it's "cool". Here's a thought people: If you want an 'open' platform then don't buy an iPhone. Buy something else and stop complaining.
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I don't get it, without 3rd party apps the thing is useless. What is apple's deal with making sure this phone doesn't work like a pda? Are they going to make a separate product to compete with windows mobile? Apple is a company known for trickling out features and making sure it's customers must buy 300 things to get it all, but crippling a device that clearly can perform the functions of a pda is ridiculous. People can only be tricked for so long.
- singletrack861, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I feel like, given all the attention that has been given toward this issue, Apple already knows this.
- YourMom1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7How does it work that if I put a third party app on MY iPhone, your iPhone will work against you?
- sonycam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Apple needs to understand that people creating third party apps, do so because they're passionate. Any company which ***** on their passionate stand to lose a lot.
- mechcon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I rather let Apple know that there's more to the world besides the USA and the UK (yeah im talking about the ***** iphone)
- Vazelos, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7It is only a matter of time. Don't forget these are still early days for the iPhone and Apple's know-how of the market. We all want 3rd party apps today (for me the first two would be Skype and car navigation software) but I don't think Apple is ready for this move today. 3G, 3rd party apps open by Apple etc will happen in the near future, one step at a time.
- noverflow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+53rd party apps are not viruses... You have a choice to install them or not. And try using the apps before you claim such things. I use my mobile to-do-list more than most of the normal apps.
Hackers should be jailed? For what? Adding feature that need to be there? - GeekSwag, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I, sir, will not take that wager...ever...
- trunkster, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Yeah and then they drop the iPhone all together, smooth plan.
- tpodr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I asked that at least they start the discussion, release some beta SDK with no promises of full functionality or forward compatibility. "Just throw us a bone and show you care"
- Bootes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4iTouch has no mic, Skype would be useless.
- wush, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7a fanboy of what? that word gets thrown around far too often
- nytejade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4There are plenty of high quality 3rd party apps on the iPhone right now, and Apple's going to potentially be brought to court if they decide to invalidate warranties for installing third party apps. There's a law on the books that prevents this. Unless there is solid proof that the 3rd party app is the cause of the device failure, they have to stand by the warranty. So, you don't really know what you're talking about.
- actorboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Hmmm, that statement looks familiar.....yup:
http://www.digg.com/users/tacojohn/history - trunkster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Quickly we forget the $100 store credit for early iPhone adopters.
- streak, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Jobs believes the wildly patent-pending touch interface of the iPhone is so compelling to consumers that the device needn't be opened up. Instead, because the device is closed, Apple can obtain more lucrative contracts with service providers and, in the end, make more money with lower associated support costs.
screw'm. - elpasoGuy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3well they obviously did not want to give us everything at once, Apple knew there would be hacks, which IMO is why there is no flash support , so they could force us to update the Firmware somewhere down the road with a Flash capability update! My iphone has frozen twice with Ishare and the NES emu. i got rid of them but love summerboard!
- Agapytho, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The iPhone is too long a step for Apple, due to the simple fact that they have powerful competition (Blackberry, HTC, etc), that not only have more experience, but are less restrictive. They work. Cool as the iPhone may be, is carries restrictions that reduce it's appeal. I wanted to buy one. I don't anymore. Bought an iPod. I am very close to returning it, since they are simply making the mistakes Microsoft made with Windows all over again.
For an intelligent person like Steve Jobs, I am surprised he is ignoring History. - smhill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3From what I understand it is in the works. But the problem isn't an issue of porting it to work on the iPhone, it is one of interface.
The iPhone's touch screen is very different from mouse. There isn't a "click" in the same way that there is wiith a mouse. How do you differentiate touching the screen from a click? Double tap? What about flash apps that have double click? Triple tap? How do tell the difference between a click-drag and just touching the screen and moving the mouse. It can be overcome in the flash player to a degree, but there are so many ways to actually write a flash app, that it is a safe bet that not everything will work as expected. Apps for the iPhone were all built with the touch interface in mind. The hundreds of thousands of flash apps floating around on web were not.
My guess is that we will see special player for the iPhone with a set of libraries or document of best practices to allow developers to design their interactions to work on that platform. - diggless, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5i would rather have a usable internet connection. I have used the phone and like it, but it took me 2 minutes to load gmail. My sprint treo takes about 5 seconds. and the battery lasts several hours. The battery life thing brought up by apple is silly, Just make the battery removable, then i can have 2.
- mraustin1337, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3*annoyed that the os list does not include linux or even just "other os" *
- timeshifter, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Like Skype would run worth a ***** on EDGE. Maybe it'd be OK over Wi-Fi. I seriously doubt there'd be any lost revenue to AT&T with people making Skype calls over Wi-Fi. Hell, I'd be all for it if it'd keep they're crappy network from dropping normal calls so often.
- kotatsu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3To be fair Apple never mislead people in the run up to the iPhone launch, they said no third party apps and people bought the phone regardless. You knew what you were buying, so to bitch and moan that it doesn't do something it was never advertised as doing is a bit much.
- TheSolomon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Today on Digg: Fun with circular arguments! :-)
- sotarts, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Personally I'm all for 3rd party apps on the iPhone, but I can also understand Jobs logic when he says that the average user will not put up with phones braking down because of some app. This logic how ever doesn't seem to be valid when it comes to the iTouch. Why couldn't Apple at LEAST open iTouch and see how that went. Am I missing some point here, cause nobody seems to be talking about this?
- cipher64, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Sooner or later people will have to realise that Apple is just another big corporation trying to make a big buck, obviously they care more about making money than anything else. Otherwise they would have been a small time business with a few hardcore fans, but they are in the mainstream and they have to play the game by the rules that every other big corp. follows. And playing that game you might not always do things that are fair and best for the customers, sometimes you just have to care about your own interests. That's the plain truth in my opinion.
- johnnybluejeans, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I want something twice as ugly and half as slick.
- scoot2006, on 10/23/2007, -1/+4if (IQ < 72) { toComment = false; }
- fuseideas, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I finally hacked my iPhone. Now I have GPS, games, a customizable interface and...... wait for it...... and Etch A Sketch!
Now if someone could get the Flash plugin ported over to iPhone I'd stop complaining about limitations! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Lets just port skype to the iphone and call it a day
- neckaros, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The SDK is a must for the iPhone in europe as edge won't be really unlimited. I don't want to pay a huge bills just to use thos web apps!
- theghoul, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Yeah! Lets get some quality 3rd party apps just like my windo.. uh..wait a sec.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The iPhone runs on Leopard so they won't open it up till Leopard is completed.
Come on Oct 31! - ZackS, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If this were true, they would have said something already to deter the awful, awful press they are getting. It's casting mud all over their brand amongst even the faithful.
- rudy23, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3If users flood them with requests to work with the community, *** they will have to.***
Yeah ok - drakethegreat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There are apple sites to vent your frustration. Just because you are pissed off about the iPhone not doing what you want doesn't mean you should punish digg with articles every night and day. So yes I AM SICK OF THE IPHONE. You knew it wouldn't have 3rd party apps and you bought it anyways go bitch someplace else please...
- mrdibs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They don't "have to" do anything. No amount of letters is going to change Steve's mind. Pointless...
- MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3No, it's fun with CIRCULAR arguments.
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