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- tafkase7en, on 07/13/2008, -4/+112Doesn't actually Scrobble :-/
- mokele, on 07/13/2008, -1/+60The official Last.fm Client will submit your iPod scrobbles when you sync it back to your desktop. Unfortunately you can't run background processes behind the built in music player on iPhone at present. Syncing this way is the only possibility at this time, and the Last.fm Client has already done this for some time now.
- ernieoporto, on 07/13/2008, -7/+52Scrobbling required please. The desktop app sux le balls.
- metallikop, on 07/14/2008, -5/+41Not sure why @jontywareing got Dugg down. This is the only application remaining in Installer that makes me want to jailbreak my iPhone 3G. Background applications should be allowed. Apple don't protect me from my battery drain, let me make up my own mind if I want to allow apps to run in the background. I understand that my battery life will be crippled by running MobileScrobbler or an IM (Google Talk please) application in the background, but that should be my choice.
- jontywareing, on 07/14/2008, -5/+35MobileScrobbler only works with jailbroken iThings - the ability to run apps in the background has been removed in the official SDK. Hurrah for apple crippling their devices.
- c99koder, on 07/14/2008, -1/+24In addition to not allowing background apps, the SDK also removed the ability to access the music library.
- Korb91, on 07/14/2008, -2/+21We NEED scorbbling!
- obendega, on 07/14/2008, -4/+22This Last.fm app actually has much better sound quality then the Pandora app does so I am lovin' it. Pandora is currently only 64kbps but apparently they are working to improve that.
I agree that these streaming music apps should be allowed to run in the background. It is extremely annoying that they don't. - tafkase7en, on 07/13/2008, -1/+18MobileScrobbler seemed to work quite well...
- blurrie, on 07/14/2008, -0/+14has anyone seen a massive slow down w/ typing on 2.0 software? it getts really laggy while txting... i restart and its good.. it happens on mine and my gf's iphone..
- mark076h, on 07/13/2008, -3/+16i like this alot better than pandora where you can only skip ahead like 6 times.
- AquaOSX, on 07/14/2008, -0/+12It's not battery drain that's the big issue. It's the CPU and user experience that's the heart of the problem
If everyone starts running 3rd party apps in the background, the iPhone will require some sort of process / task manger, and those are bad news for many of the Keep-It-Simple-Stupid users Apple targets. That said, Google Talk could be done with Apple's Push service, not a background process. So that app is feasible. - krisple, on 07/14/2008, -1/+12I had something simmilar to this on my iPod touch, after I jailbroke it. It was called mobile scrobbler, and was one of my favorite apps.
- dalesmatrix, on 07/14/2008, -0/+10Downer, another App not in the Australian app store, joining the ranks of Jott, Ebay and Pandora. I understand why, but it's still depressing. (Actually I don't know why with regard to Ebay, anyone know why that one is not in Australia?)
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -2/+12This is what I've been waiting for.
- bodies_collide, on 07/14/2008, -1/+8whats with that icon? it looks like a 2 year old made it on paint. why doesnt it look like the actual icon?
- PTCHFRKR, on 07/14/2008, -0/+7Windows Mobile is completely unusable and horrifically slow. Apart from that, it's clearly better than the iPhone.
- turtlebutt, on 07/14/2008, -2/+7Last.fm FTW.
- dehlz, on 07/14/2008, -1/+6From Toby at last.fm:
"The app scrobbles what you listen to via Last.fm but unfortunately there’s no possibility for scrobbling normal iPod plays. Apple are not allowing background applications which means we can’t run while the built in media player is running. We’re trying to work with them to get around this, but for the short term we’re focused on making the Last.fm desktop software scrobble iPhone and iPod Touch plays (it should work pretty good right now)." - ObscuredCelery, on 07/14/2008, -0/+5Yes, he must be brainwashed! How could anyone argue with your anectodal evidence?
- mxcl, on 07/14/2008, -0/+5It is MobileScrobbler.
- DownIsTheNewUp, on 07/14/2008, -0/+4Perfectly content with my jailbroken iPod Touch 1.1.1.
Gotta love a last.fm app that actually scrobbles. But sadly, people will eventually stop making apps for my "obsolete" iTouch.
Does anyone know why iFlix isn't listed in the installer app anymore? I really wanted that ine. - katierosekills, on 07/14/2008, -0/+4MobileScrobbler for jailbroken 1G iPhone's for the win.
- Shibby3230, on 07/14/2008, -1/+4I've been experiencing the same problem, I was considering calling apple but I'm lazy. Let me know if you find out what's wrong.
- Viper007Bond, on 07/14/2008, -0/+3Sadly it's impossible due to Apple.
- nevioth, on 07/14/2008, -1/+4With all due respect, the title for this shouldn't be "Last.fm for iPhone and iPod Touch", but instead "Last.fm Radio and browsing for iPhone/iPod Touch"
Maybe it's just me, but i really can't much use to the "last.fm" application without its main functionality - updating what i'm listening to in my main player to my last.fm user profile.
The streaming is useless For iPod Touch which can't be always connected anyway. There's gotta be a way to enable scrobbling through the main ipod player without it being considered a "background service". - billbugger, on 07/14/2008, -0/+3Why are you being dugg down? This is true.
@kraetos: It's called a firmware update. - inactive, on 07/14/2008, -0/+3Well stop reading and commenting on the stories.
- oliversan, on 07/14/2008, -0/+3And it was amazing.
- mxcl, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Egg on your face. We hired Sam Steele who made MobileScrobbler. It's the same app.
The scrobbling only worked on MobileScrobbler because it was a jailbroken app.
It is impossible to scrobble with the official SDK. We can't run as a background application. - woobert, on 07/14/2008, -2/+4Pandora's app compared to the last.fm app is like comparing a Windows phone app to an iPhone app. Last.fm (Sam Steele really) uses tons of iPhone features to make this thing awesome. Pandora kinda pooped out something that works. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Last.fm app has code available under GPL.
- planksconstant, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2seriously, if you plug your ipod into your computer, and you have last.fm, it will scrobble all of your plays. its really not that big of a deal, and this is a wonderful app.
- TheFlamingHips, on 07/14/2008, -1/+3I agree man... what's with the eBay app not being available?? Pandora can't come to Australia cause of licensing issues same with lastFM I suppose... Not sure how they're gonna get around that.. Don't worry I'm sure these apps will be available via the installer once the Dev Team release their hack to the world..
- Protoss, on 07/14/2008, -1/+3All they would have to do is have every background-running-capable app build a QUIT menu into their apps, and also have any app running in the background have a little badge on their icon to show when it's running.
- viewofeverlast, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2If I can run the iPod in the background, why can't I run streaming music in the background?
- prezzy, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2Pandora loads a lot faster for me over edge than last.fm does. which is a big deal to me
With that said last.fm is a lot more robust - vackraord, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2Awesome! Can't wait until it's available in the swedish appstore. Im certain we will see scrobbling in a future version.
- 1160Smith, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2I also randomly have the same problem. Rebooting is a temporary fix, but it comes back a couple hours later.
- ernieoporto, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2That's because Apple won't allow a background app to keep an eye on the built-in iPod music player.
But what if Last.FM built their own music player that can access and play from that same internal Apple library? I'd switch over to using that in a heartbeat. - vulminiha, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2Damn, if iPhones could suck dick, Apple would take over the world.
- georgemandis, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2The most plausible explanation I've heard is that Apple doesn't want someone to be unable to call 911 because an app they installed is running in the background, hogging up resources and crashing the phone. Common sense might not place the blame on Apple there, but you can never underestimate the litigious. Once they develop a rock-solid process management scheme it should be fine.
- DD00, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2Buffering...
- jjesusfreak01, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2nope, they can still work even then. The maps application on my iTouch pegs me right at my house. Im sure I want to know how it does that.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2What Apple should do about background processes is on a case-by-case with the developer go over what the background process does and how it's essential to the user's experience in using it. For things like IM and last.fm background processes are essential, and I don't think it would slow it down much at all. Even if it did people know they're running it so why not?
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2This is absolutely brilliant
- metallikop, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2Fair enough. I understand the user experience debate. What about MY user experience? Pop up a big nasty window that says "Enabling background applications could cause our iPhone to turn in to a firey ball of death. Are you sure you want to do this?" At least then you'd knowingly be destroying your user experience, and the rest of us could be happy with their application happily running in the background.
In any case, the 3G phone will be jailbroken shortly, and I won't have to worry about this. Windows Mobile applications run in the background all the time, so do IM applications on the Blackberry. I don't see why Apple can't allow the same functionality. - diggcommentguy, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2Yeah, but you still only get 6 skips, including thumbs down.
- woobert, on 07/14/2008, -1/+3One more thing to add... Pandora streams at 128k stereo and pandora at 64k mono. That's good and bad (for both). Last.fm won't work well over edge, but pandora sounds crappy on a nice system, even over wifi! Sorry for my initially "biased" review.
- AquaOSX, on 07/14/2008, -0/+2And what background / foreground apps where you running simultaneously?
Problem is, occurs once Joe-retard is running a slew of different messaging clients (although these have already been relegated to Push), is scrobbling, is downloading video in the background, has an open document / presentation cued-up in the back, has some sort of location aware software churning away on a task, is unknowingly running support processes for an app that's not open, is surfing the web, gets a phone call, etc. And god forbid if one or more of those background apps is a poorly written resource hog.
This device has no process manager built into it. There's no dock / task bar / task manager type-thing to tell you what is and is not open. If it was there, dumb users wouldn't understand it.
For this to be done well we'll need to wait for faster hardware and an appropriately designed OS that allows for intuitive task management.
But before we get that, I want Apple to figure out a UI convention for Copy / Paste. - kraetos, on 07/14/2008, -1/+2Huh?
How does a server that pushes notifications to Apps help a music app keep playing when it's not the active application? -
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