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- davewashere, on 03/26/2008, -7/+116Well, if Dvorak says that it's not, that must mean the iPhone IS the next desktop computing platform. That surprises me, because it's really just a smart phone made by a company that people seem to be a fan of, but the opposite-Dvorak rule has never failed me before.
- wonderchemist, on 03/26/2008, -16/+89Maybe not the iPhone 1.0. Think of the iPhone 1.0 as the Mac 128k.
- sn00kie, on 03/26/2008, -6/+66In Later News, The Mac and PC guys aren't really computers....
- vinnyvenus, on 03/26/2008, -28/+77John C Dvoark is Ann Colter of techworld.
- OneManArmy, on 03/26/2008, -25/+74"Some even hope that it will replace the laptop as the primary PC platform. And what if it does? What are folks going to do when they spill coffee on their iPhones? "
Jesus. Is that guy for real?. Laptops and mobile computers have been outselling desktops now for years. The current iPhone might not be the answer, but with its innovative approach of interacting with the device it is a step in the right direction. And as microprocessors/controllers become more power efficient, faster, and smaller it will only get better along with all other mobile devices. - badqat, on 03/26/2008, -6/+51Wow...way to state the obvious Dvorak! I doubt other than a handful of nuts, no one thinks the iPhone is a true replacement for a Mac or PC.
- Eminemdrdre00, on 03/26/2008, -3/+43The "This Week in Tech" link in the article links to www.tech.tv... WTF?
- h3smith, on 03/26/2008, -14/+53Thats pretty mean to defile Lewis Black like that.
- davidwasman, on 03/26/2008, -31/+66Dvorak is the Lewis Black of computing.
- Strunt, on 03/26/2008, -4/+36Look, this guy knows what he's talking about:
'In 1984 he criticized Apple's inclusion of a mouse with their computers, saying “There is no evidence that people want to use these things.”' - audiologic, on 03/26/2008, -1/+32Mr. Dvorak,
I read you from an iPhone
...But I had to I had to go to my laptop to comment. Huh. Grrr. Fine you win, but only for now. - roosterjm2k2, on 03/26/2008, -6/+36Except Lewis Black is actually entertaining and relevant.
- mGARANDEUR1, on 03/26/2008, -7/+37How is the iphone going to replace a laptop? Are you seriously going to type up a term paper on that crappy touch keyboard?
- streak, on 03/26/2008, -47/+76Dvorak provides the epitome of a "straw man" argument. The real breakthrough with the iPhone is being able to leave the laptop at the office while traveling--essentially doing away with the need for a laptop in many instances--and allowing the combination of a less-expensive, higher-performance desktop and iPhone to fulfill almost every need. This transformation of computer usage will become even more evident with iPhone 2.0.
- D3ADBOLT, on 03/26/2008, -18/+45dvorak.org/blog
- Gummo98, on 03/26/2008, -2/+29I say the chip in our head is the next desktop.
- KennMac, on 03/26/2008, -1/+25"And largly they didn't for another 10 years."
So the mouse generally wasn't used until 1994? Alright there, chief. - imnojezus, on 03/26/2008, -5/+29Seems like every time Dvorak says "never", the thing he's railing against becomes mainstream within 2 to 4 years.
- thenome, on 03/26/2008, -20/+40True it's never be a desktop or maybe even a laptop, but with the SDK on the horizon I have no doubt it will be the leader in "handtop" computing... the multitouch UI is ready for prime time. Everytime I pull out my touch everyone around me is amazed by it's power with just the email and web. With free apps, everyone will want to run out and buy one of these.
- johnpaul191, on 03/26/2008, -0/+19That's not one you would want to Jailbreak and risk bricking.
- OGla, on 03/26/2008, -7/+26Yes and cars won't be the new horse because sometimes they crash.
- r3zonance, on 03/26/2008, -7/+26Nokia phones may have more functionality, but as a result they do nothing well.
The N95 for example, people always tout the GPS as being a killer feature, but only ever managed to get it to work once (in 4 months) for about 2 minutes, after spending 10-15 minutes waithing for it to figure out where I was. Turns out it is only any good when there are no buildings around you and the sky is very very clear.
And then if you want to use the map without being forced download each bit as and when you need it (with nasty data charges) you have to pay about £50 for a 12-month licence.
Utter crap. - KennMac, on 03/26/2008, -5/+24Tapping the spacebar twice for a period (and space) is soooo difficult!
- badqat, on 03/26/2008, -2/+20Wow...I've got to ask: are you very young or do you live under a rock? Dvorak has been spewing his cranky brand of tech reporting (and Apple bashing) since the 1980s.
- RetlawST, on 03/26/2008, -4/+22Dvorak is more like the "homeless guy professing the end of the world on the street corner" of computing.
- satori3000, on 03/26/2008, -3/+20Every time I read his stuff I can hear his old cranky voice.
- fluidfoundation, on 03/26/2008, -0/+17Topping 2008's NO ***** list, Dvorak! Take a bow.
- Rotzooi, on 03/26/2008, -41/+56Breakthrough? Nokia's phones could do what the iPhone does years ago. And even now the old Nokia models still have more functionality than an iPhone.
- Tyr7BE, on 03/26/2008, -15/+29...until you try to type out an email. Seriously, I've seen many people square off in email "type-offs" between their blackberry and iphone. The result?
Blackberry: "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"
iPhone (in twice the time): "The quik bten fox jmooik obit th hair dog"
Multitouch is great for things like zooming and gestures for going forward and back in web pages and stuff like that, but with no tactile keypad, you'd better be the type who sends quick one-word reply emails, very infrequently. Otherwise you're going to take years off your life battling to get a sentence out of this thing. - ghm101, on 03/26/2008, -3/+15Maybe something like the asus eee pc would do this linking to the more powerful desktop better.
- pauldy, on 03/26/2008, -0/+11Now you may find it hard to imagine a computer without a mouse, monitor and keyboard but B166r is more or less correct I remember many machines didn't have mice until the early 90s (maybe closer to 91/92). I remember helping friends install mice, adding com ports to machines and dealing with drivers that only worked with com1 or com2 and totally flipped out if your interrupt was set to anything but 3 or 4. Amazing how far we have come.
- lepton, on 03/26/2008, -6/+17No, you have to type two buttons to get a period and a space. Just like on any other keyboard!
- GeorgeStone2, on 03/26/2008, -3/+13I used to be able to type a text message out on my N6600 without looking. Now I HAVE to look.
- streak, on 03/26/2008, -32/+42Right, Nokia's phones could do lots of things... poorly and at much higher cost.
- InorganicMatter, on 03/26/2008, -11/+21Multitouch takes time getting used to. I can type faster with my iPhone than I ever could with my Treo after a bit of practice.
- whiskeymb, on 03/26/2008, -4/+13lol, don't forget that Dvorak said the iPhone was going to be a bust because it didn't have a physical keyboard. He was SO right!
- mstrebe, on 03/26/2008, -5/+14Despite the fact that I agree that an iPhone is no replacement for a desktop (although I don't know who "everyone" is--I don't know anyone who ever concluded that it was), Dvorak has >always< been a blithering idiot. I remember his rant against USB (yes, USB) in 1998 stating "Nobody needs another port on their computer." The only times this jurassic clown has been right is when the conclusion is so obvious that my grandmother could have guessed it.
If I drop my iPhone in the toilet, I DON'T LOSE ANY DATA--just an expensive phone. I get another one and viola, the Internet is still there, just where I left it. All my crap is still synced to my computer. Its loosing $400, not loosing the chapter I just wrote and can't replace without days of work. And if I can't afford to replace $400 I wouldn't be playing phone-toilet-chicken in the first place. - blakespot, on 03/26/2008, -7/+16Except Lewis Black is a comic genius while Dvorak is an enormous asshat.
- mikesbaker, on 03/26/2008, -1/+10don't get me wrong I'm no iPhone fan but... I have been reading PC mag for a long long time and I consistently see Dvorak getting it wrong. How the hell does that guy still have a job writing his column.
- KennMac, on 03/26/2008, -0/+9Try updating your firmware. Double tap spacebar was a feature in 1.1.1
- InorganicMatter, on 03/26/2008, -0/+9I don't think anyone has ever thought the iPhone or iPod Touch was going to replace desktop computers. It has, however, taken the market by storm, and has the potential to one day become the 21st-century science-fiction like all-in-one portable device. Certainly not in the current generation of product, but with a lot of refinement, I could easily see a hybrid phone/tablet gaining foothold.
- holymrack, on 03/26/2008, -0/+8Then you're not agreeing with him at all...
- badjoke, on 03/26/2008, -0/+8And let's not forget how good the auto-complete is. Once you learn to trust it, your typing speeds up a lot.
- judgeFire, on 03/26/2008, -0/+8I switched to the iPhone from a Nokia e70.
Technically, the Nokia had more features, but in practice it was clumsy. Particularly the memory handling, which caused browser crashes on sites like Digg and active standby crashes when calendar events reached some magic number. A major annoyance was the (missing?) preloads of thumbnails requiring you to wait for each preview pic, movie clip and so on. On top of that, the device started to break apart, with some keys losing functionality after only two years and the screws coming loose.
The biggest insult, the cherry on top, was that this advanced S60v3 device had a music player app, which Nokia counted towards marketshare in portable players, but it lacked a... headphones port. Great design there, guys.
The only thing I miss is the screen PPI, over 200. It had about as much pixels as the iPhone, but packed in a smaller area. That made text and line art render really beautifully, without a hint of aliasing. That density on a bigger screen.... soon, I hope. - Books, on 03/26/2008, -7/+15That was a pretty useless article. He didn't prove much, he just kind of said what he 'thought' to be the way of the future with little insight. Oh wait, he did have some insight, the same that any 7-year old kid would have. Thank you captain obvious for that top 10 list of THINGS WE ALREADY KNOW.
- marx2k, on 03/26/2008, -1/+9Dvorak. Like the keyboard layout of the same name. You've introduced some extra letters in there.
- thebitghost, on 03/26/2008, -4/+12Dvorak is the typical old man in the company that always has "done that" or knows "someone" who is an insider and has the inside track but in reality knows nothing and uses aggressive and rude over bearance techniques to try and bluff people into not calling him out for not knowing much of anything.
- subliminalurge, on 03/26/2008, -0/+8Dvorak has basically two modes: Blithering idiot who's flat out wrong, and Captain Obvious.
- edicius, on 03/26/2008, -1/+9Apple never, ever said that it would become the most dominant phone.
- streak, on 03/26/2008, -0/+8The eeeeePC doesn't fit in an ordinary pants pocket, has no cell phone or cellular data capability, contains far less memory than an iPhone, and is a lousy multimedia player.
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