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- richardiscool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9But if you consider a mini, you do not need an Xserve... do you know what one is?
- Callero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8CaffeineAddict: What are you talking about?
It's not a blade, it's a 1U standard server - alanthing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4pcharles23, you're now on my block list you immature dolt.
- michaelyurechko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7nice. I can't even afford a mini, not to mention an xserve.
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Dude, do you even know what a blade server is? Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IBM_bladecenter_%28front%29.jpg That takes up 6U in your rack, but you can fit 14 blades in it. 14 1U servers would take... You guessed it, 14U.
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've always had good luck with Seagate drives. When I worked in a computer shop they tended to be the ones that failed the least and when they did fail, the RMA process is painless.
So I've always stuck with them because when things do fail they always replace the drive no questions asked and usually I can just do it through the website and print out the UPS label without even having to talk to a human. - axman6, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It is a little hard with that kind of form factor isn't it? I mean, what could they do to be original? I think they look pretty damn nice, much better than anything else I've seen, and I know that's what I'd choose if I ever needed a server... which being a student, with two computers in the house (one still running OS 9 [oh the shame]), I won't be any time soon.
anyway, nice pics, looks pretty cool.
Al. - fearofcorners, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I was interested to see so few connectors on the PSU-- a sign that they've reduced the number of different voltages required compared to ATX? A boon for efficiency to be sure.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3" there is only 3 voltages 3.3, 5, 12, Your laptop just has one plug.... its called (VOLTAGE REGULATORS)"
There are only 5 voltages required by the ATX standard; +3.3V, +5V, +12V, -5V and -12V. For some dumb reason, these voltages have been standard on desktop computers for the past 10 years, even though hardly anyone actually uses the negative voltages for anything (there were sorta important for floppy media, but they could have gotten around without them), and the 3.3V rail is only for the motherboard.
Google proposed reforming this: remove all except the +12V line, and let what devices need a different voltage contain their own voltage regulators. Because the regulators for independent equipment will be smaller (and thus have a smaller voltage drop across them and draw less current to operate), the entire system is more efficient. It's commonplace for motherboards to contain their own charge pumps and voltage regulators anyways (to suppress pathetically engineered power-supply noises), which adds even more inefficiency to the system (as they're essentially doing the same task twice, meaning double the necessary components and double the efficiency losses). The solution makes great sense.
Now, it's not yet known if the Apple engineers listened and did this with their new server (it could very well be reduced to this, the power connector had 12 pins (6 top, 6 bottom), which could be an indication of several voltages, redundant pins, or digital communication lines (power supplies that are able to tell the computer when they have failed/fallen out of spec). We'd need a better dissection to know for sure. - ratzfatz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Nice report - but what's wrong with a Seagate? I'm pretty much into these Samsungs lately. Calm, cool (temperature), reliable. And cheap.
- ScottBookG4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Would be nice to try to get away with justifying this thing as a home file server...but how do you explain it to the wife?
- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Nice. Thanks for the pictures.
I wonder why Apple doesn't put as much originality into the packaging of it's Xserv systems as much as they do the rest of their products. - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I believe that full-scale power supplies have lots of connectors for different form factors and to supply the whole comp. The Xserve has this inside.
- streak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And in operation, what's the noise level? Are all those fans spinning wildly/noisily, or are they able to spin at a slow, silent pace because of their numbers? How is the noise level affected by computational load? What speed are your puppies?
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The XServe, however cool looking in its 1U form factor, is NOT a blade server. Blades are made of dumb computing "cells"; a processor, a main board, and some RAM, that plugs into a bay/station that contains the power supply and may contain whatever disk storage is necessary. Blades go way, way more dense than 1Us because of it (but are also harder to service, which is why the whole blade concept was invented in the first place; one blade dies, replace it, just like razor blades).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I got mine in the mail yesterday too! To lazy to set it up, I wasn't expecting it to the 20th.
- drakino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks very nice and clean inside, always a good sign of a well designed server. Reminds me a lot of the insides of Proliant servers starting around 2001 or so. Clean, very little cabling, and very easy to work in. Sucks to come across a server that is a cable mess inside for repairs.
- UrsusMorologus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11U so they are all 40mm fans, the loudest kind. Lots of 'em too.
That's the one thing keeping me from buying one--my office is too loud already. - decades, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ moonwell
"This machine is nice but u don't know ***** about the seagates decades which are far better than samsung. My SATA samsung ***** up once and I lost an important sql db, smart notice me before there is a block error but it was too late and think what happend after I format 5 times that crap, it gone back to normal."
Ok, so you speak from experience with ONE incident, whilst I talk from experience from at least 40 HD failures. I use Seagates at home, but they're not better than Samsungs. But it's nice to know that you know I don't know anything about them from one comment. Just like I know you've got difficulties writing with correct grammar ;-) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Loud, loudest thing in office.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"But if you consider a mini, you do not need an Xserve"
There's an entire colo company that exists running Minis. While it might be nice to have all the extra goodies the Xserve adds to the server arsenal, there are far too many companies buying the more expensive servers when all they need is a cheap box running sendmail. Then again, there are kids out there with computers more powerful than the first-of-breed supercomputers, sucking more electricity than 8 concurrent washing machine runs, heating their basements by 100 dF because their parents have more money than they know what to do with.
When it comes down to it, the Mini is a decent alternative to the Xserve depending on the task you intend to use it for. Small enterprises too often get attracted by name alone, and forget the rule of minimums: buy the least capable hardware that's able to get the job done, and no more than 20% more. Imagine, for the cost of one Xserve with two dual cores, you could get four Minis with a dual core a piece. That's two desktop computers, a primary and a fall-over server for a small office. - CaffeineAddict, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8@unloud: Because its a server blade ... people with server blades don't get them to show of how purdy they are to there friends ... they are usually much more interested in the hardware / software on them than the look
- pcharles23, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6Yeah stupid ass... its only a standard 1U... ***** 14 year old know-it-all's
- decades, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Samsung are the best for HDs. We use Western Digitial, Maxtor, Seagate, IBM Deskstars (!?), Toshibas et al at work, and Samsungs are by far and away the most reliable.
As for RAIDs and BLADEs, just don't get a Dell =P - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1This machine is nice but u don't know ***** about the seagates decades which are far better than samsung. My SATA samsung ***** up once and I lost an important sql db, smart notice me before there is a block error but it was too late and think what happend after I format 5 times that crap, it gone back to normal.
- rickcarson, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Just do what all the other fanboys do to get theirs. Sell your 'personal services'. :D
- pcharles23, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2yes you are a BAFOON! NO *****... there is only 3 voltages 3.3, 5, 12, Your laptop just has one plug.... its called (VOLTAGE REGULATORS)
- CaffeineAddict, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/11598/
Sure as hell looks like a blade to me, and even if its not ... its a server ... not a fashion statement like some gaming rigs are. Not that sweet as hell gaming rigs are not cool ... cause they are, but they aren't servers
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