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Intel Confirms Atom-based Larger iPhone (Mini-Tablet)?

macrumors.com — According to ZDNet.de, Intel Manager Hannes Schwaderer confirmed that Apple would be using the Intel Atom processor in a future version of the iPhone. The new model will reportedly be a larger model with a 720x480 pixel display, correlating with circulating rumors about a mini-tablet device rumored...

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KevInTx, on 05/14/2008, -3/+18So how many people think a product like the one described will actually see the light of day? Never say never BUT I'm highly skeptical.
- Justice101, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4Think, think! I'd sure as hell like one, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. On another note, who's using Apple products with a gambling problem, while living on a farm? :)
- jabberwolf, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3They better hurry, windows devices are already using intel's atom chips ( Willcom D4 ) , that and with skyfire, who will need the iphone?
  - MacParrot, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5Just a guess, but maybe people who prefer something other than Windows?
  - r3zonance, on 05/15/2008, -1/+6I will NEVER buy another Windows Mobile device. Every single one I've had (that's about 6-7) have had appalling stability, crap performance and the interface is really ugly.
    
    The iPhone is the exact polar opposite.
- RSS14, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3There are two kinds of people in the world: The skeptics, and the hopefuls. The skeptic's role is to challenge the hopeful. The hopeful's role is to prove to the skeptic that he is an innovator. Without the skeptic, there can be no hopeful, without the hopeful, there can be no skeptic.
  - jjustice, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1That is so meta. At the same time, I am so disillusioned by Apple rumors that I think I'm a permanent skeptic. The only thing I'm more skeptical about is Hillary dropping out of the race.
- DJafrodijiak, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2considering the multi touch gesture patents are having to do with the use of all fingers on both hands.. i think it might eventually see the light of day. unfortunately for me, it will keep getting delayed, because the Jobs wants it to be ridiculously perfect before it's initial release, as if to trump the iphone. i have a feeling they're holding back on us because apple is making so much money on these other products right now.
  
  anyway, i desperately want an apple tablet, as apple is really the premier computer of the entertainment industry, and being in music myself, i would go gaga over the software potential in multitouch for music. virtual pianos, virtual consoles, mixers, fx processors, sequencers.. even the simple act of zooming into the waveform a la Jeff Han's-style gesture.. would simply be mindblowing. ***** key commands forever with the release of that.. minimal interface, and the new keyboard will be learned through hand gestures.
  
  anyone ever see the jazzmutant lemur? imagine that being streamlined software for apple tablet music editing.. the future is absolutely unbelievable. i can even begin to comprehend the changes that will come to music. i honestly thing that multitouch could be as important to music in the future (and entertainment) as the synthesizer was in the 80's. i want to friggen record my automated binaural panning on a bunch of mono tracks with my hands. i want my monitor to be it's own midi controller. if that's not part of the future, then i don't know what is.
Mossa, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6We can only hope this is right since the FSM alone knows what we'll have left to read on the internets if they drop the 3G and don't leave us any rumours to read on our new mobile internet devices.
- nbx909, on 05/14/2008, -0/+8Oh FSM, please let the new Iphone have 3G and a can opener and fork so that we can enjoy you're noodlely goodness and comment on digg from anywhere we wish.
  
  Ramen.
- luchid, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Praised be his Noodly Appendage!
  - FlyingSpaghetti, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1You called?
normalkid, on 05/14/2008, -1/+15Correction to the article blub: The Intel exec didn't specify 720x480 exactly, he just said larger iPhone due to it's larger display.
- Demistate, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6besides, 720x480 doesn't really make that great of a wide screen, unless the pixels aren't square. 720x480 is the same resolution as Standard-Definition DVD.
  864x480 would be a real 480P widescreen resolution.
  - luchid, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2It's an internet tablet, not an LCD TV. 720*480 is fine for that.
    - daza, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1But what normalkid is trying to say is that it is a nonstandard widescreen resolution. Of course the tablet would be a widescreen device so it would be fitting to use a widescreen resolution that results in square pixels (864x480, say). After all, considering you will be reading text from this device you need the highest resolution you can get. Cannot compare it with the resolution an LCD TV would use.
LaweranceOak, on 05/14/2008, -20/+5I'm still waiting for an update to the iPod Hi-Fi, where are those anyways?
- cyberwiz01, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3Discontinued about a year ago.
LaweranceOak, on 05/14/2008, -27/+3I'm actually waiting for an update to iPod Hi-Fi, where are those guys anyways?
- MacParrot, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2Saying something stupid twice still doesn't make it funny
pjohanson21, on 05/14/2008, -1/+1Another MacRumors story related to this news: http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/11/3g-iphone-in-m ...
inputname, on 05/14/2008, -7/+7Bring back the newton!
ObrienTommy, on 05/14/2008, -1/+1This news corroborates the rumor from April that new iPhone in May and new tablet in June
http://switchtoamac.com/site/3g-iphone-in-may-new- ...
dOOBiEx213, on 05/14/2008, -17/+5(sigh)... THIS is exactly why I hate Apple. Ignoring the processor, why did they hold back on the higher-res display the first time? They try to make it look like "Hey, technologiez haz improves so much in the last year , pay moar for better" when they could've released a device with similar specs for less or equal price. Greedy ass *****.
- Aleman360, on 05/14/2008, -1/+13I'm pretty sure they did a lot more thinking about specs and price points than you have.
  - dOOBiEx213, on 05/14/2008, -4/+1Yea. Just like when they released that giant sized iPod, then the "mini," then the "nano," then the video. While at the same time the first gen. iPod was released, there were companies already selling good quality mp4 players (and I'm not talking about that Chinese *****,) at a cheaper price. It's a simple marketing strategy:
    1. Sell crap.
    2. "Upgrade" crap.
    3. "Upgrade" crap again.
    4. ????
    5. Profit.
    - TwilightXaos, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3Let me know when your mp3 player company has it's IPO.
      
      Put up or shut up.
      - dOOBiEx213, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2You stole this comment:
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        CAUGHT. lulz
- bigbadgoat, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4Yeah, ***** the technology companies for improving products, releasing new products and making more money!
  
  They should sell them at cost, and give rebates to those who bought previous models! ***** profit!
  - chromerium, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1haha, yeah.
    
    Some people's call Apple's behaviour bad.
    
    I think it's just "profitable".
    
    The problem is that the devices are SO cool that when you have the latest one, you're the cool kid on the block, but when they upgrade and you can't afford it, then suddenly you're not, and thats Apple's fault.
superkendall, on 05/14/2008, -3/+8I'm pretty doubtful about a tablet myself, the market for those has not been really good (UMPC anyone?). Why would you get a small tablet when you can just use a really thin laptop like the Air?
- MegaSmack, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4I'm hoping because it would be significantly cheaper.
- bigbadgoat, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3because the air has a 13" screen making to too ***** big for most people that want a UMPC-type machine. Apple got thin in the wrong direction.
- techbrute, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4A tablet is designed for a niche market where people use the computer while standing up. Think medical personnel, construction foremen, census-takers, etc...
  
  Try using a laptop while standing up some time. If you ever needed to, you'd understand the tablet. I just don't think there is that big of a market for standing-up-computing, which is why tablets have been commerical "failures".
  - wyfflemunky, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2The engineering profession would go ***** over a tablet that was light (because we're weak), powerful (because we use a lot of intensive applications), and cheap (because we want to be able to convince our companies to buy them for us.
    
    I think the lack of a market for stand-up computing is only because of the lack of suitable devices. Current tablets are all heavy enough to be unusable for more than a few minutes at a time unless sat on a surface, or too underpowered to do anything more than take notes on.
n8o8, on 05/14/2008, -3/+21Atom + Apple = Adams Apple!
smittay717, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2so basically the iphone we know will only be ugraded to 3G, lovely, lol... :)
dudefaceguyman, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6Only one way I can see them doing a tablet successfully is if they really cater to the graphic/art crowd (their meat and potatos aside from schools anyways). Pretty much everyone uses wacom tablets, and if they could implement their cintiq like sensitivity into their tablet...It could be the first actually useful portable digital art pad. (Tablet PC's today don't cut it for me) then the thing will sell like freagin hotcakes.

If it's just a big iphone screen, then it'll flop.
- bolthead88, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2I've been waiting for a big iphone screen... tablet pc's today suck... I wanna pinch, slide, turn, type and all with my fingers....
- Calcularius, on 05/14/2008, -2/+5Their "meat and potatoes" right now is iPod, iPhone and music sales.
- jt28, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2If the 3G iPhone is expected to have GPS etc, Maybe one niche this will market too is as a companion device for people who already own firt gen & wont be buying new iPhones for the added features (But might settle for a lightweight device to work alongside the iPhone). But pricing & software updates will be a deciding factor there - I half expect Apple to enable GPS over bluetooth for first gen users, plenty of people own bluetooth receivers & its another area 'every one else is doing it'.
jschrab, on 05/14/2008, -2/+10Oh, man... Jobs might be fuming right now...
digitallysick, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4I think a real mac tablet would be great. Apple could create this without issue, touch screen, and maybe make a few decent apps to work with it = profit.
- strategynode, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0Well, the tablet was not that successful. But if Apple came out with one, it would be the rage.
trixterIreland, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3looks to me like there are some fears about phones like http://www.sonyericsson.com/xperia/ which has higher res display than the intel one does, built in gps, slide out real keyboard, etc. Not a bad phone, and the more ocmpanies that start making better devices like this the more competitive it becomes (cheaper prices, more selection) and the better quality the devices *should* end up being.

Personally I like that I can ssh with a real keyboard off my phone, I dont like its size (hey its a few years old) or the fact that its cpu gets a little slow whne trying to do many things. The newer phones appear to be so much better in this regard, not to mention much higher res displays allowing for better font rendering while using ssh.
dn11, on 05/14/2008, -1/+12tablet /= phone. if it is any larger than the iphone it isn't a phone IMO
- Calcularius, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Whether or not it can make phone calls determines if it is a phone or not.
  - Justice101, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1By your standards than my computer running Skype is a phone. :
- Evi1d33d, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2iPhone is already too large for a phone.
ohplease, on 05/14/2008, -3/+2
If it does 720x480 and has an Atom processor, you can run full blown OSX on it I bet.
- jt28, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Well if you asked Apple, their already running OS X on the iPhone - It certainly reads that way whenever they talk about the platform. Not sure the interface I know from Leopard and the like would scale down well to 720x480 though, they will probably flex some Apple'vation to make me forget about that though. Probably something semi transparent & moving, no doubt with a subtle but catchy sound effect.
  - Giga, on 05/15/2008, -2/+0They said "full blown OS X", not just OS X. The iPhone has a different OS with enough code in common to justify calling it a cut down version of OS X.
    - mrBitch, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Wrong, the iPhone & Touch both run the full OS X. Only difference between an iPhone and a Mac is that the Mac runs Aqua, while the iPhone runs a touch interface GUI.
lpferris, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3How does everyone in the industry not know that you don't go blabbing stuff like this before Uncle Jobs announces it?
That said, does anyone actually believe any of this unless it's directly from the horse's mouth?
- chroko, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Well... it's not just Apple. No matter what company you work for, unless it's your job to announce new products - you shut the ***** up about products that are in development. Even if you're an executive.
  
  And it's probably true. As far as I know: if you're an executive of a public company, you are held legally accountable if you lie to stockholders.
innov8ion, on 05/14/2008, -0/+0The larger platform should allow for enhanced usability and new use cases while still being pocketable. Bet it would make for a nice remote control (this has been rumored.) Should be much easier to view websites on and type with (especially if haptic technology is available.) I'm sure there are others, especially in industry. Suffice it to say, this thing will rock.
Calcularius, on 05/14/2008, -10/+5WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT
- dpowre, on 05/14/2008, -4/+2DO NOT WANT!
AppleGeorge, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4All I want is a damn iPhone how it is now, but with 3G. How hard is that? I don't want anything bigger, it's perfectly how it is right now, but it needs 3G. EDGE is far too slow to make use of all the features the iPhone has.
- Kinnkster, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3Yeah, if only there was a chance they were going to release a 3G iPhone...
- Calcularius, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4I'm happy with EDGE. I have to wait 10 seconds instead of 3 ... big whoop.
  - AppleGeorge, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3Then you've clearly never used the 3G network if you're happy with EDGE.
bradspry, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1While I don't know what to believe anymore, I do think Apple will take a page out of their notebook playbook and create two lines of iPhones. Historically, they've done very well with their two line pricing and marketing plan for MacBook and MacBook Pro.
aserer511, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2iTablet? I am in, this could be a VERY cool device.
mbourgon, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Bull. That's not how Steve does things. The shortage of iPhones allows Apple to "help"
AT&T by giving them some time to sell down old stock, and keeps Apple from having to refund/exchange iPhones from people who've bought it in the month preceding the new release.

If this _is_ true, then at WWDC Steve will announce the 3g iPhone, the features of the new iPhone that'll be enabled on the 1.0 iPhones (video, better bluetooth - basically, anything they can do in firmware/software).

Then he'll have the magic "one more thing" and announce it.
- chromerium, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1The iSpaceship, ready to rocket you to the Moon, baby.
BrendanSheehan, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5The Mac touch will have a 10" or 11", 1280 by 800 screen. And it won't be an iPhone or sorts at all.
- bolthead88, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2that sounds about right
- chromerium, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4i reckon it'll have built-in 3G technology for anywhere browsing and they'll see a bluetooth earpiece so you can use it like a phone.
  
  Ah, you can just tell, there be loads of businessmen walking around with Apple logos stuck in their ears.
  - Justice101, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3sounds more like a umpc...not the ***** ones that are out now, but what was originally envisioned...i want one, as long as it doesn't cost as much as the Air, more like the Eee pc
EvilAnimator, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Suck it, Newton!
- chromerium, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1yeah with the SDK, the Newton has :finally: been beaten!
Kinnkster, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2This sounds pretty doubtful. As others mentioned there isn't much market for UMPCs because it's an in between which fails to bring you the best of both worlds.

And anyone with an iPhone wouldn't buy it, and it would use the same basic OS and interface? Sure....

Of course then a larger tablet sounds somewhat unlikely as it would probably detract from the sales of the Macbook, which already has a hard to swallow price tag against it.
TheZorch, on 05/14/2008, -1/+1Could this be the rebirth of the Newton?
say2sky, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1x86 iPhone is good, I am waiting for it.
perhaps Z500 800MHz 512KB 400 0.65W is used.
floejoe, on 05/14/2008, -4/+3But, will it blend?
- FrozenJackal, on 05/15/2008, -0/+0yes i believe it will.
- freakguy54321, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2oh ***** stop with the will it blend *****!...it aint funny anymore!
  - floejoe, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I think it's ***** hilarious.
LinuxGalore, on 05/15/2008, -1/+1I can see only one issue and that is the fact that when it comes to tablet entry software Apple doesnt have much to offer compared to the PC platform. Apple will have to be doing allot of coding to get the tablet onto the shelves before the end of the year, trust me tablet entry software is very quirky and time consuming to debug (have to test on real people for a few months then debug then test again).
miken32, on 05/15/2008, -3/+2If the new iPhone is going to be made with Atoms, WHAT ARE THEY BUILDING THEM WITH NOW???
You know, atoms, molecules, ha ha. No really, digg it up.
caponumen, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1These phones are starting to get cool enough and beefy enough to get me thinking about some applications.
But I will probably be going with the LiMo route.
That is *If* the browser is full featured, anything else is just lame.

http://www.limofoundation.org/
fdavis, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2The atom chipset means it will have WiMAX right? If so, I'm gonna go buy clearwire right now ...
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