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- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -12/+165"is that an iphone in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
No, it's a Sprint phone. Just a regular ol' Sprint phone. Oh, and a boner. - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -19/+104Agreed . . . no iPhone for me.
If you're going to charge $599, that's fine, but let me choose my carrier and don't force me to get a "multi-year" contract with Cingular.
Do I have to sign up for 4 years of MSN dial-up at $23.99/month too? I don't like your attitude Apple. - chadu, on 10/12/2007, -14/+97is that an iphone in your pocket or are you happy to see me?
- ScornForSega, on 10/12/2007, -55/+101No, no iPhone in my pocket.
And yes, the $599 I'm saving by not buying one makes me very happy! - dpcdomino, on 10/12/2007, -18/+50Too big for a normal Joe Schmo cell phone
No exchange server limits it as a business phone
8 gigs limits it as an iPod.
Who is this market for? Yuppies with a s-load of expendable income? I thought that went out with the tech boom.
Please let me have a real new iPod. - colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -12/+37"I'm a huge Apple fan, even a writer for the MacCast... But despite how great this phone may be I think the price tag is a joke. Especially considering the heck phones go through, and how often people end up having to replace them. It's just not worth the investment in my opinion. This years MacWorld was a bit of a letdown in my eyes."
Have you seen how much the competition costs?
Treo 700 with 2 year service contract from Verizon - $499 in store
Cingular 8525 with 2 year contract - $399
And look how much better the iPhone is. The iPhone is very cheap compared to the competition. And as with the iPod, it will only get cheaper. - jo42, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27> No exchange server limits it as a business phone
For how long? It's running OS X. Someone will no doubt develop Exchange support just like yer Crackberrys. - aplardi, on 10/12/2007, -14/+34I'm a huge Apple fan, even a writer for the MacCast... But despite how great this phone may be I think the price tag is a joke. Especially considering the heck phones go through, and how often people end up having to replace them. It's just not worth the investment in my opinion. This years MacWorld was a bit of a letdown in my eyes.
I really want a 12 inch MacBook for college, as well as a new iSight. All I got was an AppleTV for the HDTV I can't afford yet (college kid) and a phone I wont buy in six months. But who knows, maybe they'll do an iPhone JR aka iPhone for people without a PS3 worth of cash to throw away on a phone. - MrBlackthorne, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Guys, after seeing the God-awful smart phones and PDA's my provider's been hawking and their price tags (not a whole lot different than Apple's), I have to say that the new iPhone looks pretty good. It's a tad bit expensive, but not by much. No other phones I've played with have nearly as good an interface or features. And that's my biggest complaint about phones: NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO DEVELOP A DECENT MOBILE INTERFACE!
Watching Steve's demo, I kept saying to myself, "Oh! That's how you make this/that better! Why didn't Motorola/Sony Ericsson/Nokia/Audiovox think of that? Why didn't *I* think of that?! It's so simple!" And that's just what it is: Apple is master at design. This phone fixes EVERY interface complaint I've had with the many phones I've owned.
Anyone that doubts this product should hop on Slashdot and do a search the year 2001 for "iPod." - cybermort, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19this isn't going to replace the ipod.
- yomamadudeyo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Not. Even. Close.
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Except for, you know, the miniscule memory? 8GB is nowhere near enough for a decent video player.
- lifesagame, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Do consider the price of other phones on the market. You look at any of the newer sleek camera/music player phones on the market and you'll be paying from $400-$550. Apple premium + large-ish ipod video, etc, etc would make a price much lower seem hard to believe (though, I agree, much welcomed. And the multi-year contract thing does suck. What's the price of the iPhone with no contract, or just a one year one?)
- iching, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20I wonder how long until the iPod video 30g and 80g will be updated with some of features of the iPhone?
- dpcdomino, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Full screen and bluetooth would be nice
- The_Ox, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Very cool - thanks for making this.
- clinko, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17"Who is this market for? Yuppies with a s-load of expendable income? "
If you live in a major city, you can't afford an apartment or parking anymore. Why do you think every other person in manhattan has an iPod? The gadget yuppie is a product of the housing market :) - tomvendetta, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19@ericksoncn:
$500 for basically a mac? Can this run Photoshop, iMovie, or any other memory intensive program? I think this is very far from "basically a mac." - ratpH1nk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12As you can see, it is really no bigger than the slvr, definitely less wide than the blackberries. I access my exchange server through imap...so that is clear.
How does 8 gigs limit is as an iPod more than the shuffle or the nano? - Lazybones, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@blahtastic
5 hrs talk time (better than teh 3.4 to 4 hrs of most PDA phones)
16 hrs MP3 playback (Not bad probably MUCH better than most PDA phones)
Standby? - Furthur, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11My contract will end in July, and I'll at least consider the new iPhone when it does. Aside from being a mac user for the past 3 years, I think they're great alternatives to the windows and blackberry based PDA's and smartphones. I also graduate and enter the "real world" in May, and I think that a phone that does calling, texting , mail, and internet browsing as well as this could replace me carrying a laptop.
PDA's on Cingular w/contract wo/rebate
Palm Treo 750 $499
Samsung BlackJack $449.99
BlackBerry 8700c $399.99
So $599 for a smartphone that's actually smart AND an mp3 player? Doesn't seem too bad. - mgkwho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10People who buy smart phones are usually willing to pay a lot of money.
People who buy smart phones + ipods are now willing to spend the same money for both on one package.
I thought that was obvious.
-=|Mgkwho - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I have that phone and it looks NOTHING like the iPhone.
Whatever point you were trying to make....you failed miserably. - gelgod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Mock-up I did to get a better idea of size. http://www.jameskocsis.com/blogimages/ClintandiPhone.jpg
download your own at: http://www.jameskocsis.com/iPhone.pdf
Print it and cut it out. - blahtastic, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16I considered this since my cingular contract is fairly near to being up, but 600 dollars...you've got to be kidding me... I'd rather have a separate phone and mp3 player.
The other concern I had was the battery life, with a touch screen that big and an mp3 player it's safe to say I'd kill it pretty quick. What is the official battery life anyway? I haven't seen it listed.
Oh, and @ chatwithaninja below me, Cingular kills verizons signal in my area, but everybody gets verizon anyway cause of that damn IN thing...guess you can't please everyone.. - Theophany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Actually, that would be March '08, not '07 as you assumed.
- rkoopmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7dug for the http://www.sizeasy.com reference. i always ended up folding a piece of paper to the dimensions, but i like this more.
- dogoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I was really hoping that the iPhone and Wide screen ipod would be 2 separate things. i just want to get to wide screen ipod. i don't want to spend $599 for the wide screen ipod, plus a bunch of other things i don't need
- DJSdotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The important thing for me is comparing the iPhone to my Blackberry 8700c that I use currently. The iPhone is ony 0.2" longer than my Blackberry, 0.3" less wide but almost TWICE as thin!
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"Good move Apple. You cannibalized your biggest profit maker...the only product that you are actually successful with...to enter a ridiculously crowded market and alreay cut yourself off from the vast majority of people. "
Music phones and integrated devices are the next big thing. Who cares about the Zune? Let the Zune stay on the trailing edge of technology. Apple is about the next big thing. - bradleyland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Feel free to stop by and add any device you'd like:
http://www.sizeasy.com - MrBlackthorne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7What cellphone "fanboys" are you talking about, exactly? I've owned four different cell phones by four different companies. In fact, I don't know one person that has any loyalty to one cell phone maker. Why do you think that is? It is because no company has released a stand-out product. The closest are the RAZR (WOW, it's thin! But wait... Sanyo just released the exact same phone under the name Katana.) and the LG Chocolate because it looks like an iPod. There is NO brand loyalty in the market, because the phones all do the same stuff (and generally not very well).
The thing that sets the iPhone apart from the rest is that it has features and an interface that no one else offers. Other companies will try, now that they've seen the iPhone, but I'd tend to guess that Apple's patents will stop any blatant copying (see: iPod click-wheel vs. Zune useless-wheel).
If you're denying this is a ground-breaking product, your hatred for Apple and their "fanboys" as you so childishly call them far outweighs your ability to reason. At first glance, this product fixes every complaint I've had about the mobile experience. I'm just glad somebody **ANYBODY** had the design knowledge and experience to finally do so. - Pests, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6RAZR v3: 98 x 53 x 14 mm
iPhone: 115 x 61 x 11.6 mm - mugdecoffee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It really doesn't...
- whoisgregg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I knocked together scale photos of an iPhone, SLVR and RAZR:
http://www.whoisgregg.com/blog/2007/01/comparison-of-iphone-to-razr-and-slvr.html - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This phone is also about the size of the Zune...
111.8 x 61 x 14.7mm Zune
115.0 x 61 x 11.6mm iPhone
Basically the Zune is about 3 mm thicker but the iPhone is a bit more than 4 mm taller. - lasombragh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I love Apple and this phone looks like it'll be amazing, but there's no way in ice-cold hell I'd be roped into a "multi-year" contract with a ***** wireless company and then still pay upwards of $500 for it. The trade-off just isn't worth it.
- smoothoperatah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6/edit
damn you guys are fast.. - warriorscot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Its a bit big i agree, personally ild rather have a small phone that does everything i want a phone to do you cant really beat the motorolas and samsungs as phones. Also price is a factor a RAZR for example is like £60-70 now if i lose it or its stolen no big deal i cant ake it out on a night out and not worry to much, if i was taking that thing i would worry after blowing half a grand on a phone.
Also my razr can go for a week or more without a charge, my HDD walkman goes two or three days(6 or 7 hours a day) both had better battery life that anything else i looked at and that was a big factor for me as i hate batteries dying(always happens when you particularly need them).
16 hours is about average for a mp3 player, and that's playing music i take it video will be the same as others 3-4 hours, not bad if it was an mp3/video player but its a phone too, sorry but that kind of battery life on my phone isn't acceptable its quite possible alot of people will have to charge it not only every day but twice every day if you are going out at night too. If it didn't have the phone in it i would probably consider buying it alot of the features look cool its very stylish and featureful might even balance the DRM crap factor and it would probably lower the price which would be even better. Two devices in one is fantastic but battery technology needs to improve considerably before i consider even trying it.
Also as a question would the battery be replacable, i dont buy phones or mp3 players unless i can buy spare batteries and replace them i ideally always carry a spare battery(also keeps battery life up as you run them flat before a full charge). - cybermort, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7those who would buy a macbook or macbook pro. I can't wait to hand over $599 to apple for one of those beauties.. even thought i'm not happy of being locked with cingular...
- rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Aren't all the iPod owners seen like that already?
- jsully, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'd imagine they'll move on to another G, possibly 6.
- Phlag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The iPhone definitely looks nice, but I've never been satisfied with the durability of iPods. Mine got scratched if you looked at them funny, not to mention the battery and hard drive problems. In order to justify $600, Apple better turn around and make this thing sturdy as *****, as any good phone should be.
- PabloMac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They are losing thousands (if not millions) of immediate sales by restricting the release to one carrier. I just spent a couple hundred on a new phone, and can't afford another right now, but I guarantee if T-Mobile had them, I would find a way to get the $ together. The thought of scraping the $ together AND downgrading to Cingular shuts it down for me. And I can't be the only one in this boat.
- galore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4About the price:
Ok, I guess I am arrogant, but for a middle class adult person, $600 is not that much. For perspective, I paid $610 for electricity in August (AC in Texas), a roundtrip ticket coast-to-coast is about $400 (after all fees, taxes) coach, rent/mortgage is around $1000 - $2000. All those items are usually recurring expenses. Whats so outrageous with $600 for a really advanced gadget, like the iPhone???
I mean, yes, when I was a teenager, $600 was a lot of money. But now, it isn't a big deal. Heck, I'll pick up my car in an hour from the shop (40k service), which is about $500.....
If the iPhone is as good as it looks from the keynote and Cingular coverage is good in my area, I'll get one for sure. No, I am not rich, but have a typical middle class salary. - badtz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I just checked on this also ...
basically, it's a hair thinner than the RAZR. a hair wider. And a touch taller. - bram, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4How'd it sound?
- KJay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A lot of people seem to be disappointed with the iPod Video not being updated with a touch screen, but I am thrilled that it isn't. I'd hate to have to constantly watch videos through finger prints. I'd be constantly accidentally stopping the video while trying to clean the screen.
- farazyashar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wtf happened to this: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/the-iphone-lives-but-the-trademark-belongs-to-cisco-222336.php ?
- biffnix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And the hell of it is that Apple will have Cingular sell this phone with NO discounts to subsidize hardware cost with service. Only a few other phones tried this (by selling handsets based on features and "cool" factor alone), and failed miserably. Most notable was Xelibri, a range of good-looking phones which Siemens tried to sell direct to the public before giving up in 2004. (quote from The Register in the UK). And although the phone is undoubtedly cool, will you REALLY shell out $599 undiscounted, when you can buy a PDA/Phone that can already play videos, play MP3s, has Bluetooth v2, has wifi for $299 plus the cost of a 2GB mini-flash card? (Samsung, UTStarcom, et al). Sure, they're not nearly as sexy, but *mass* adoption? It'll be a tough sell. I wish 'em luck!
Joe G.
Bishop, CA -
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