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- fkr3, on 11/02/2007, -8/+66What's astounding is that only 80% of the people in an IRC chat room were full of *****.
- inactive, on 11/02/2007, -2/+40I heard the disc explodes in the drive after the first install and there's a movie of Steve Jobs thanking you for buying it.
- tracydanger, on 10/30/2007, -5/+40"What was astounding: a full 80 percent of those we talked to said that despite grabbing Leopard off BitTorrent, they a) had already ordered a copy that wasn't in yet, or b) were planning on buying one regardless. In other words, BitTorrent activity was high, but as we have seen so often, it's not indicative of how many people are taking Leopard without paying for it."
- Eeqmcsq, on 10/30/2007, -5/+37That's the definition of a true fan. They will pay for the real thing, even if copies are freely available.
- unluckier, on 11/02/2007, -1/+32There's no technical reason why installing it on multiple computers wouldn't work. But it's a violation of the license agreement. It's kinda nice not being treated like a criminal right off the bat.
- bradleyland, on 10/30/2007, -2/+29A) Apple's family pack pricing is a stellar deal. 5 licenses for $199 versus $129 for a single license.
B) When someone trusts you, do you always reward them by slapping them in the face? - inactive, on 10/29/2007, -0/+25I am amused at the number of people who think downloading an OS for free is bad, but are perfectly fine with downloading music.
- sjmulder, on 10/30/2007, -4/+27That's called ethics.
- HenkPoley, on 11/02/2007, -2/+24Yes
- bradleyland, on 10/30/2007, -3/+22To compensate the creator of something you find useful. What a concept.
For me personally, it's a form of mutual trust. Apple doesn't use product keys. There's no activation. When I install Leopard, there's not so much as a pat down before proceeding. I feel trusted, and in turn, I feel obligated to reciprocate that trust. Not to mention, at $199 for 5 licenses, Apple's multi-license pricing is reasonable. - Dabisu, on 10/30/2007, -1/+20I just checked out some FAQs about the licensing and activation of Leopard, there are no CD keys required to install the OS. I don't know where you just got your info from...
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -0/+17Does it hurt to be that ill-informed?
- reubencm, on 11/02/2007, -3/+19there is no cd key or anything, does this mean that the one disc can be use on multiple computers?
- windohs, on 10/30/2007, -1/+16this is LEOPARD not VISTA
Apple actually believes that their customers respect them unlike Microsoft which seems them all as potential pirates. Ex: Genuine Notification
No fanboyism here just truth. - ocellnuri, on 10/29/2007, -0/+14$69 is the Student Educational Price at University Bookstores
- drwatz0n, on 10/29/2007, -0/+14'Except Better.'
- adrianmonk, on 10/30/2007, -2/+15Because some people are honest and will comply with the license agreement even when they're not being forced to, solely because they don't want to be a dick about it.
- fkr3, on 10/29/2007, -1/+14Aww "the real underground". You kids are so fricking cute.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -0/+12Woah $69 you're right! I actually just downloaded it, but for $69 I don't mind purchasing a real DVD for it. :) Thanks apple! I love college discounts.
- MacEnvy, on 10/30/2007, -2/+13It's not copyright infringement, it's a breach of the licensing agreement. Equally bad, but not the same thing.
If you made copies and resold it with your name on it, it might be copyright infringement. - fkr3, on 10/30/2007, -1/+12Realistically, you're a dick.
- MacEnvy, on 10/30/2007, -2/+12Not really. Since you don't need one, you weren't correct.
"fanboi" is *so* 1998. - Winckle, on 10/30/2007, -0/+10That's just to make sure the disc wasn't made with a mistake at the factory, it can be skipped, but i would definitely let it run the first time you use the disc. After that you know the disc is OK so you can just skip it.
- wafflez, on 11/02/2007, -7/+17...if you had the slightest bit of intelligence you could determine whether the torrent you downloaded was real or not even before you downloaded it...
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -1/+10hahahah, good call.
reminds me of the "95% of men masturbate, and 5% lie" saying. - leksdraven, on 10/29/2007, -12/+20Today people expect things on demand. If I were upgrading to Leopard, I would actually wait until I had it in-hand. I'm far too paranoid about malware to install Leopard from an ISO I downloaded via BitTorrent.
- supermanred, on 10/30/2007, -4/+12I used the beta for months (as it was stable and kicked the snot out of 10.4) and on Friday at 6:30 I walked into the Apple store and bought mine for 130 bucks and did a clean install which took 20 minutes.
It's just that damn good. Awesome OS. - Christbait, on 10/29/2007, -0/+8And the fact it's illegitimately on torrent sites is surprising because...?
- fluidfoundation, on 10/28/2007, -3/+1010.6cat is hiding in you PCz, steeling ur GHz.
- Evari, on 10/30/2007, -0/+7hiding? By telling everyone on digg?
- DiggLive, on 10/30/2007, -10/+16Why be paranoid about malware? That's only a Windows thing.
/sarcasm - supermanred, on 10/30/2007, -2/+8Leopard has no serial number or CD key. This isn't micro-crap. Leopard installed in 20 minutes, clean install but it took me over two hours to install vista on the other partition because I had to install it (over an hour) and spend an hour on the phone with someone who didnt speak english very well to get my Microsoft CD key changed so I could install it on a new computer.
*****, I hate microsoft. - ChromaVita, on 10/30/2007, -9/+15So that you can keep the purchased copy unopened on your bookshelf right?
/lame - gilbert2048, on 10/28/2007, -1/+6it will include a father Leopard and mommy Leopard and a baby Leopard
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -0/+5Do you see Apple suing students for 100,000's for downloading and uploading said program?
No... see that's why it's bad and I'm perfectly fine with downloading music. - CapEnt, on 10/30/2007, -5/+10Copyright violation is not thief. Stop eating RIAA/MPAA/BSA propaganda.
- reubencm, on 10/30/2007, -0/+5i can now confirm that this is correct
- rento, on 10/29/2007, -2/+7You gotta love this new Leopard *****. It gives you these icons that pile up and stuff is kinda cool.
- streak, on 10/30/2007, -0/+5The entire DVD contains both PowerPC (32-bit and 64-bit) and Intel (32-bit and 64-bit) versions. The verification process naively tests readability of the entire disc, even if the install process only requires half.
- Tenoq, on 10/30/2007, -0/+4It's NOT theft - Mr Jobs still has his OS. You didn't steal it. You just made an unauthorised copy - ie, copyright violation. :p
The concept is simple if you're not a moron. :p - k3vinmartian, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4seriously? are you blind? look at any torrent site. If you can't find it, go buy it.
- abrooks, on 10/30/2007, -0/+4It checks the integrity of a dual layer DVD, can your PC do it quicker?
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4Apple is still a business, and I bet they figured than since they own the hardware and sold it to their customers, that it would be cheaper to not design a complicated serial & activation system, since those people are only installing it on hardware they already paid Apple for.
- k3vinmartian, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4That would have required huge amounts of bandwidth and would have just cut into their profit margin.
- cherish592, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4zing. well played.
- MacEnvy, on 10/28/2007, -0/+4The $57 billion dollar worldwide porn industry, despite the variety of *free* porn on the Internet, would seem to negate your point.
- burke, on 10/30/2007, -1/+5Nobody is claiming that their copy is legitimate because it's only copyright infringement, not theft. We're simply correcting you idiots who think that copyright infringement is theft.
It's not. End of discussion.
Theft is the act of wrongfully depriving someone of their rightful property with the intent to use it to your own ends, whatever they may be. Downloading Leopard illegally, while it is illegal, does not deprive Apple of their rightful property, but rather creates an unauthorized copy of it, which is illegal under intellectul property law. - xmichael, on 10/30/2007, -3/+6I live in Costa Rica, and we won't have the official leopard until the 15th of November, as such, i'm on Bit Torrent getting it so I can install it this afternoon.... Even if I were to rush ship it out of the US the customs / duty process would take at least a week... I will buy it when it gets here, but I want it now :D
- Firehed, on 10/30/2007, -2/+5That was the case for me, and would have been even if the torrent would have finished downloading before the release. A lot of people just wanted it early - myself included.
Hell, I even paid for a family copy despite getting the exact same disc inside as the normal single-user package. There's no serial key or copy protection in place, so I could do whatever I wanted without issue. But it brings a lot of improvements to the table, and I want to reward Apple for providing them - just as I do for any other company that sells its software at fair prices. - betterth, on 10/28/2007, -4/+7I'm surprised we can hear you from all the way up there on your pedestal. Is it hard knowing that you're just so goddamn better than everyone?
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