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- ismith, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43The bastards in Hollywood fear everything, yet they still make billions.
Apple to Hollywood: Resistance is futile! - superalamar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14what the ***** are you talking about?
- smeager, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@geekee
While I don't like the idea of DRM (in my opinion it just doesn't work) I have yet to find an "open DRM format" that works. If you know of one please enlighten me and OpenDRM doesn't count because no one will use it. The problem is that even though Apple's iTunes locks you into using there own player it is the only one that is available across all platforms.
AAC is a open standard and not controlled by Apple while WMA is a Microsoft standard. FairPlay works on all platforms (including Linux with some work) while WMA, PlayForSure, locks you to Microsoft's platforms.
I use OS X and Linux and I can not use any of the available services because they chose to use Microsoft's DRM. So what am I supposed to do? I use iTunes. I know you are going to say "hey, you can use emusic and other services that don't have DRM'd music" and your right. The problem is a lot of the music I listen to I cannot get from services like that (and no I do not use AllofMP3.com because I don't feel it is a legit site).
As for portable "music players" I use my trusty iPod Mini because I need to, can't play my bought music without it, and it does what I want it to do... play music. I don't need something that can play music in 15 different formats, have an FM tuner, play 23 different games, and open bottles too. I just don't need something like that, I have my notebook for those things.
Apple can do one thing that no other service has been able to do and that is give you a great user experience. The whole system just works, iTunes->iTMS->iPod. As soon as another system comes around that can do the same thing (and is available for my chosen platforms) I might change to it.
Well that's just my opinion. - iamexcite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9People to Hollywood: Why should I pay $12 to see this mediocre movie?
People to Apple: Why should I pay 10 bucks to or more* to download an electronic, DRM'ed version of this mediocre movie?
*perhaps we'll see on Sept 12... - smcavoy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9only the paranoid survive -- Andy Grove
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11In an ideal world, the format of the music you buy shouldn't be a factor, or a limiter as to what devices you can play it on. Apple gets it's power that the music industry fears from gaming the system by refusing to use an open standard DRM format, or at least license their format. Hollywood will negotiate for an open format if they're smart, so anyone can sell movies online in a format that works with most video players of the future. Apple's tactics are bad for consumers, and hopefully Hollywood won't make the same mistake the music industry did.
- deweyhewson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Haha, sorry guys, wrong topic.
- ibeetle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Letter to the entertainment industry--
Apple, the iPod and the iTunes Music/Video/Movie Store is not the enemy. It is mearly another distribution channel you can use to sell your product. - philonous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You hit the nail on the head. iTMS has gone from zero in sales to billions in three years alone. It saved the recording industry from its own stupidity. They insisted on selling expensive CDs and consumers responded by downloading more. Now, at least a great many people pay for the downloads.
So, why would you fear a distributor that distributes your product efficiently and gives you a healthy cut? The studios enjoy controlling the outlets, and that's why they bought so many theaters in recent years. But, you can't control all outlets. Take www.deepdiscountdvd.com, or Blockbuster, or Netflix for that matter. The studios will not be able to dominate these outlets. They can only hope to have good partners who do a good job of moving product. Apple will do that better than anybody else. So, why fear Apple?
Clearly, the content of this review of Amazon's service, http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6636289.html?subj=blog&part=rss&tag=6636289, should make the studios cringe because Amazon's shenanigans may mean that they cannot move product out.
What objections do these stupid white men (the executives) have to moving product? - tryferos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In a perfect world where music and movies are sold and distributed in the most customer-friendly way at a good price, you will still have piracy. People steal for many reasons, "pirates" are many types of people, and the collective intelligence of the tech community far outweighs anything they come up with. If only they would just realize that and focus on embracing the fans instead of creating more "pirates" by their current approach.
- Yez70, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Can you just give it up.
The article is interesting - it SHOULD be on the front page.
They should rename this site WHINE. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hollywood fears Apple, and that makes us mighty.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@lakawak
Agreed. People starving all over the world and video/audio pirates are concerned they can't get Robot Chicken cheaply - insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3As soon as a viable alternative popups, they could deny apple rights to sell music and shut them down instantly. The only way for apple to survive is to become popular enough to basically become a place for artists to directly sell through iTunes and cut out the industry.
- smeager, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Marshy
Ok... maybe not "All" platforms... AIX, HPUX, **BSD's and other various forms of Unix. But yes the other 3 main platforms that most everybody uses. Windows, OS X and the various flavors of Linux.
iTunes runs natively(?) on Windows and OS X and you can either run it on Linux by using Wine, Crossover Office and other forms. You even have the choice to use a native Linux Player-- Banshee, which has an iTunes plugin. So yes it is the only DRM'd solution that works on the most used platforms. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There was absolutely no information in that article. Pure click-seeking fluff. What a shame.
- tektalk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Everyone should have known that apple is the future to the entertainment industry
Why can't the ***** Hollywood execs get it and decide to exploit the situation by signing movie right to apple!
They make millions,apple makes millions+people have more options for shopping!
it's win win win! - omababy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1People to Apple: why should I use itunes and sellout my fair use rights.
- wphj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Oh no!
This newfangled technology is what our customers what! What will we do?
Let's cripple it as much as we can, and hope it goes away.
Let people enjoy our content in an easy convenient reasonable way?
Nah. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Shame about Amazon's download service... they should've at least adopted Quicktime H.264 format for the vids. There's no way in hell I'm going to get stuck with Microsofty-crippled movies. I'd rather be crippled by Apple any day. ;)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4So don't buy it. Period. But you are not ENTITLED to watch movies or listen to music if you don't pay for it.
If you want to actually prove to the world what a great person you are, then you need to stop the little pussy bitchfest of "I pirate becuase the movies/Cds are not WORTH what they are charging."
It makes you sound like a ***** idiot. - drfranktm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'm a big fan of Macs, but I can't say I'm as big a fan of the iTMS. The songs cost too much for the quality of the encoding. If they were encoded in lossless, then I don't think I would buy physical CDs anymore. At the moment, the quality is good enough for me since I don't have the money to buy high-quality speakers, but will I want to listen to low-quality encodings when I have a decent sound system? Will I just buy all my music again because Apple thought that AAC was "good enough"? Personally, I download some mp3 files to discover new artists and I buy the CDs of the bands I want to encourage - the ones I feel deserve my money -, but as long as the iTMS sells DRM-cripled, low-quality encodings, it will not get my money.
Similarly, TV shows sold on the iTMS are encoded at a rather low resolution, and I expect movies to have the same flaw. It's "good enough" for many, but if Apple leveraged the power of BitTorrent - yes, it can be used in legal ways too! -, then there is no reason why they couldn't offer DVD quality. We'll see what September 12th brings, I guess... Maybe Apple will introduce something that addresses my complaints. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1wphj...according to pretty much every survey, movies on atiny iPod screen is NOT what the customers want (or "what" as you say).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@smeager
All platforms? Are you kidding me? I wasn't aware the only platforms were Windows and Mac. - charmaniac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Tough luck hollywood. If you can't keep up with the competition, than you will fall by the wayside.
Dindnja hear that we live in a capitalistic society?
Its true, I googled it. - xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8Hollywood needs to start fearing CUSTOMERS. WE'RE (we're, as in, uniformed people) are the ones paying for their DRM-encumbered $20.00 BS CD's with crappy content.
Customers need to rise up and declare that Hollywood/MPAA/RIAA have limited power over us. They can't continue to spoon feed us with this garbage that "ZOMG11!@!11SHIFT+11!@1!111 P2P IS EVILLLLL!!!111!" BS. We need to stand up to this.
It's tyranny, that's what it is.
Sorry for the somewhat offtopic rant. - swimmingbird67, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1as they should.
- surfit, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Don't know why Hollywood are scared of them, I imagine the number of video enabled devices will be much smaller, plus there's lots of rivals in the video download market in terms of online rental companies who started download services last year. These sorts of companies don't have a proprietary hardware platform to exploit but do have millions of potential customers and support popular multimedia devices like those from Archos.
- dmadzak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0oh the irony, the Hollywood studios and the RIAA are worried about being destroyed and all because of the DRM that they shoved down consumers throats. This is too good.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1this is so cool i just chat about this on my podcast that i did today www.sogreg.com you guys may like it but i say ***** thin
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Careful geekee, you just said that Apple's tactics are bad. Prepare to be burried down to oblivion.
Even though what you say is ABSOLUTLEY correct.
Yes, I know that iTunes simply exists ONLY to sell iPods, but once I buy a track I should be able to play it back on ANY device I have, not just an overpriced iPod. DRM makes it impossible to do what I want with the music I've purchased, even though there is nothing illegal in what I want to do. I'm not going to give it away or sell it, I just want to be able to listen to MY music on whatever device I want to use at the time.
Its crazy that I have to break the law (DMCA) in order to be able to excercise my legal Fair Use rights for something I have purchased the rights to listen to! - McMultiverse, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7100+ diggs, 5 comments. Look at the other submissions on the front page with this number of diggs. They all have at least 30 comments. Yet another example of Cliff and his drones brute-forcing submissions to the front page.
- deweyhewson, on 10/12/2007, -24/+6All it would take is for artists' to sell their music themselves. Or at least have a clause allowing people to order a CD directly from them. That way the RIAA doesn't get one cent of my money.
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