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- startleman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6OMG did anyone click on the popular video link: "interpretation of Fall out boy" F-ing hilarious . . .this needs to be submitted 'cuz I'd give the video a digg for sure!!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4435593179243241083 - lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Am I the only one who thinks it's unethical of Google to charge money for a "BETA BETA BETA BETA BETA" store?
- Mysk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The folks who are yelling "beta" remind me of the kids on MMORPG game sites immediately before a game launches. You can tell them that the game is terrible, that it's broke, and it's flat out going to suck but they'll yell "beta" 'till they're blue in the fingers and cling to the "miracle patch" idea for as long as they can (and sometimes beyond).
Fact is, Google video sucks, and it doesn't matter that there's a "beta" tag slapped on it. It will require a great deal of hard work, time, and funding to move beyond its present state unless Google does, in fact, have a "miracle patch" waiting to surprise the masses. Do I believe that? No, no more than I believe it to be true for MMORPG betas.
"that's different!", some may yell, and to that I say bull shiat. The only difference is that Google may actually have the funding to pull off a significant change in less than a year (or so). The question is, will they put that much work into it?
At the moment I doubt that they're taking this as seriously as they should, but perhaps their video partners will push them into doing something serious with the video shop. They better, because they have a nasty surprise coming if they expect searches alone to present their videos for purchase.
I could be wrong, of course. Time will tell. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Google Video Store is crap. Aside from having nothing interesting, the videos are EXPENSIVE.
$13 for a 31 minute collection of "surfing shorts"?
$13 for a 36 minute thing about Todd Rundgren?!
$15 for an 82 minute Harley Davidson thing?
$10 for a 24 minute video about supercross?!
Seriously. Screw that. Not to mention, it's not even categorized. - jnorris441, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah and how long has gmail been a beta??
- Pogue_Mahone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's a pretty weak effort. Beta or not, the fact that a high profile company such as google released such an amateurish effort with relatively poor functionality and organization to the general public is pretty bad.
You only get one chance to make a first impression. - BlueStarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Respect what Apple does.
Now you all know what it takes and it's clear that just because you have ***** loads of money doesn't mean you have taste and good ideas.
Nuff Respect. - diggbrian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I guess I agree with what that article is saying but it is brand new and will get better. But I wouldn't put my money on it being Apple Store's red headed step child ever.
- logosmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Don't blame the interface on "beta" status. Google has always been known for it's minimalistic interface"
No doubt, and I for one am a big fan of minimalism in web design. The design fits many things very, very well, however I don't believe that a video service with "high end" commercial content really fits the style they have shown so far. I'm not saying their needs to be blingy flash animations everywhere and ads but the design does need to be reworked, keep the color scheme and stick with a minimalist ideology but make an interface that is a bit more functional and presentable. - vermin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have to agree... Google, please hire a freakin designer. This video store is a joke.
- SupaDawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I actually prefer the Google Video store. it would be great if it started carrying more stuff of course... but at least it's not locked down to the effing iPod. PSP pre-mormatted videos is a godsend.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i dont know what you people are talking about,
this is the only thing that i like about google... there is no limit to the size or the number of videos that you can upload...
please name another site where you can upload a 10 hour video for free?
google video is awsome - sleepless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Last time I checked, mininova.org still has a pretty bad ass interface and it has more shows... lol :-D
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not that it matters, or anyone cares about accuracy here, but Vance (the author) is a man.
- Rjx_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been a big fan of google, and my reaction to this was:
DDD:
I wonder who dropped the ball - Chasin_Fat_Kids, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can't buy the videos on a mac?!! What are they doing?!!
- Function, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ArthurSucks (0) "blurry 320 X 240 videos when they can get almost DVD quality for free on torrent."
Yeah, but who wants to wait that long? I just have no patience for Torrents, they're so unstable. At least on the iTunes store, the downstream bandwith is quick. Time is money. If it takes 5 hours to download 30 minutes of video, it's really not worth waiting around for. Especially for rare stuff. The thing is too, 320 x 240 looks comparable, if not almost identical to dvd quality on a standard TV. It's only 1/2 the resolution, and most of it gets interpolated anyways because of color bleeding on standard TV's.
- ideas1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0its beta.
- junior882, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yep, time to get a designer for this type of stuff. I love the idea of simplicity, but you can design a nice looking interface and have it be simple and minimal.
- mikegioia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0enough said.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Apple video is 320x240 while Google is 480x360, and probably that resolution not being a limit
but just a fir t generation much used encoding profile. - p3lEr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0its B-E-T-A !!!!
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Another "Master-beta" from the advertising firm, Google.
- moshguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here's a few problems I'm seeing with this BETA. *btw: froogle rocked in beta, remember?*
To sum it up: content...sux, UI...sux, using string based searches on vidoes...sux
Now if Google wanted to make this fly they should use google video as a "hosting site" for videos. Then reap the rewards of a google ad or two at the top. Google has the bandwidth. They just bought a ton of fiber backbones if I'm not mistaken. By doing so they would remove the achilles heel of podcasting and hosting video in general. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I sounded arrogant above, and I'm not one of the people who believes everything that falls out of Google's ass is gold.
But people have been waiting for Google to slip up for a while, and some jerk ass reporter straight out of University probably thought I know how to get myself a name.. I'll slate the world's biggest internet search giant.
But this is a beta, and it has a lot of work, just look how far GMail has evolved since it was released..? Just get your eyes in focus and put it into perspective.. Google make some great products, and they wouldn't put a venture out unless it was going to be a success and get their full support.
TBH, while charging for a beta is a bit harsh, at the end of the day bandwidth is pretty intensive, and you are still getting a raw video file, it's not like you're using a service.. you're just getting a file. So it is reasonable of them to charge. - larryg1964, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google needs to progress their thinking beyond everything they have being designed in the same manner as their search product. How can the multitudes of developers at Google agree that this was the best format for people to browse video selections for sale? Yes, agreed this is a beta and I am sure will be improved...but come on.. this is supposed to be a site where people will want to come and spend their own money on entertainment..the interface and style of the site is way too dull to attract many people to spend much time here.
- jnorris441, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lost and Battlestar Galactica vs. MacGyver and Star Trek: Voyager....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - ishish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The whole video over internet strategy is flawed. Who wants to watch videos on their stupid computers? Maybe geeks but no the normal human being. I think that apple has bigger potential because they have a portable device strategy. Imagine if you could hook up the ipod to your TV and it outputted HD quality video. The other player to look out for is MSFT with their media center and especially xbox 360. If you haven't seen what the 360 can do yet check it out. It is just awesome at delivering high quality video to your TV over broadband. And the interface is beautiful - better than even Tivo in my opinon.
- alucinor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google video's great for searching free video, but Apple has a better grasp on the whole store concept. For one, they force a standard fixed price for everything, instead of letting content producers just slap any ridiculous price they want on the stuff.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0google video is pathetic. have u seen YouTube?
- manoftheisland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hahahahahaha someone else trying to live off of another iTunes idea lol
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The thing all you goolge fanbois should know is, that Google is NOT a tech company. Google is an ADVERTISING company. Their search is good, some of their tools are great, but they are NOT a tech company. They are all about putting adds you WANT to see in your face, 24/7. PERIOD.
- TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"""""When Google Talk came out it got bad reviews as well, and it was never improved.""""""
Never updated it? It is like 5 months old.
To whoever said Google video Beta, everything Google has is Beta. Beta is a joke.
Eric Wilson - bullmkt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Its all about the syndication ability. Think about it... they don't plan on you watching most of their video from their site.
- feross, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Man I didn't know watching female Jiu-jitsu competitions was so fun to watch -> search Rachel Jiu-jitsu..
- supergwiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can't really compare APPLE To Google; they have opposing views on product releases. Apple is a premium product company that makes sure every release is polished and pretty. Google forgoes polished for the sake of doing cool new techs in a way to help people use information.
Apple makes money selling tangible stuff. Google makes money when people use their software.
I personally will be speading more time on the google video site b/c the amount of peer-created and free content. - RiddickRom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone suggesting Googles video service should be molded around a categorized clone of iTunes is really missing what Google are all about. Every element of their UI's are only there because it worked to have it there.
I fully admit that having no categories initially seems like a big drawback but I'll sit on the fence and wait to see where they go with it. Google think outside the box and perhaps you need to do that too. We do not need a raft of clone services, let there be some experimentation and give them time to deliver.
It took a long time for Gmail to become as slick as it is today. The fact it is in Beta has nothing to do with them having the product out there to get feedback on it. Google have never worked that way. Straight from the horses mouth Google were quoted as saying "They keep products in beta until the full feature set they originally wanted is put in place and working well enough to keep it in", Not an exact quote but its close enough. - MOGua, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"What part of beta don't you understand? Get a clue."
Yeah, Gmail is STILL beta, too. So I guess you must be cool with them deleting all your mail + your account; since it's beta, can't complain about anything.
The point of a beta release is so that we, the potential customers, can have a say in what we think; then from our feedback, Google can improve their service.
and here's my feedback for this beta: it sucks. - meshgiath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yes. It's crap. Utter, unimaginably bad, stinky old crap.
"Hey guys - lets put a 2 year old in a room with nothing but a PC and a WYSIWYG drag and drop style website creator and see what we get! Viola! CBS/video.google.com's store! Whee! - fishgeekva, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0only works on windows, Google needs to hire a designer.
- Linuxrocks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I do have to agree, Google video completely sucks ass.
- mc_hambone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Of course, looking at the Register's crappily-designed web site (what's up with the HUGE letters?) hurts my eyes as well.
- masterdebater, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone seen those East Indian conservation videos for $14.99 a piece? You have GOT to be kidding me. I balk at 99 cents. At $15 bucks a pop for some crappy video, I just about fell off my chair...
- 4tygames, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0if they can't structure their video store, how will they ever create a better OS than Windows or Apple?
- Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ahem. Beta. Cough.
- Reddog_x2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For those of you who are screaming "BETA" think of this. What would your reaction be if it were Microsoft putting this out rather than Google?
I, too, like Google. But, this is a pretty lousy effort they've put out. It's more Apha than Beta. If they don't straighten it out, it's going to be the biggest flop since the XFL. - Chasin_Fat_Kids, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think free video id great. But the interface is crap for google video there is no structure . And only someone w/ a pc can buy video? Shame on you google.
- gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is a bad week for Google.
- aluminumpork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Paying money for the quality of video and the minimal assortment seems silly to me. BUT Google Video and all their random video submitted content sure does kill a few hours for me. It's a good quick way to fill in some 'got nothing better to do time'. I love it for that, not actually a serious video store. And whoever it was that mentioned it should be categorized is absolutely right. Google should realize that not everything should be build around a search engine. Give me listings and show me what you have, give me ideas and tantalize me with what you have to offer.
- LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yeah the google store is nothing special at all...the new iTunes let's you put almost any video you want into...it's nice...
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