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- MurphyMac, on 04/20/2008, -10/+346Considering some of the mice Apple has produced I wouldn't spend a lot of time on their ergonomic docs.
- auricomnet, on 04/20/2008, -3/+138I still use that computer and I look EXACTLY like the guy in the drawing.
- exquemelin, on 04/20/2008, -0/+87lol. my favorite: problem: "unable to touch type"; solution "learn to touch type"
hahaha - rickcarson, on 04/20/2008, -39/+97The tragic thing is that this is what the linux guys think that Apple is all about, just a pretty UI. You slap lipstick (UI gloss) on a pig (your POS-compliant Unix wannabe OS), and then declare from the rooftops that "Year (N) is the year of the linux desktop!". And it never is, and you guys don't understand why. You keep piling on the lipstick, but you aren't getting anyone to pucker up for you.
Moreover, you will _never_ get it. It just isn't in the fundamental makeup of the linux community. You neither understand, nor value, uniformity or usefulness of interface. If someone tried to come up with the linux equivalent of the Apple HIG (human interface guidelines), they would get strung up for trying to impose their will on the community.
Imagine trying to create a system wide scripting language like Applescript on linux... never happen. You guys have religious arguments over emacs and vi for goodness sake. How many shells are there? Bash, Cash and umpteen others.
Now don't get me wrong, I recognise that the diversity of the linux part of the noosphere is one of its key strengths. But compared to an OS where I can just sit down and the vast majority of the time I intuitively understand how to work the interface, even of programs I've never seen before, I'll take the well designed UI over the glorious mess every time.
Windows may be the Cathedral, Linux may be a bazaar, but Apple is like the supermarket. When it comes to finding what I want, at a reasonable price*, and not getting food poisoning, I'll choose the supermarket every time.
*Yes, you may be able to get it cheaper in the Bazaar, but it requires a substantial time investment (e.g. haggling), and the quality controls are much lower or non existent. - supermajic, on 04/20/2008, -2/+54http://www.apple.com/about/ergonomics/
- deaftly, on 04/20/2008, -2/+52naggers
- kaijunexus, on 04/20/2008, -1/+46Really? *shrugs*
.....AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! - mmockett, on 04/20/2008, -4/+48I don't know what that means. You are a horrible-analogy-man.
- Zihuatanejo, on 04/20/2008, -7/+47i
- lava, on 04/20/2008, -12/+51Man, now Apple fanboys are hating on Linux too? Damn.
- killbert24, on 04/20/2008, -2/+40Don't fix what isn't broke, I guess. Plus we all know that raised shoulders leads to electrocution.
- Sil369, on 04/20/2008, -4/+33hate ____
- zackkitzmiller, on 04/20/2008, -3/+31racists?
- ligyron, on 04/20/2008, -0/+27Doesn't seem like you're engaged in a deep conversation anyway
- Soave, on 04/20/2008, -5/+31The Mighty Mouse, for example, isn't at all designed with your hand's shape in mind. It's completely symmetrical in every way and designed primarily for aesthetics.
- inactive, on 04/20/2008, -3/+29no
- hmunkey, on 04/20/2008, -5/+31Well, I mean, their keyboards aren't ergonomic at all.
- sstidman, on 04/20/2008, -0/+25From viewing the page source of http://www.apple.com/about/ergonomics/upsol.html:
meta http-equiv="Expires" content="Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:59:59 GMT
That's pretty old. - Soave, on 04/20/2008, -0/+22Computers can't use ovens. NICE TRY.
- JK1150, on 04/20/2008, -0/+22look at HP's page too
http://www.hp.com/ergo/keyprinciples.html - Aensland, on 04/20/2008, -1/+23I think anyone who surfs porn for any length of time will appreciate the necessity of using your left hand to mouse when your right is... occcupied.
- mehan, on 04/20/2008, -2/+22I sincerely hope you don't take what you just wrote there seriously.
Get help. - allthosemoments, on 04/20/2008, -1/+21This metaphor was too long and didn't make much sense. Fanyboy trolls are the worst because they don't even have a sense of humor, only a sense of self-righteousness. Fail.
- cwgannon, on 04/20/2008, -5/+23Erm, well, I prefer Linux to OS X, but I'm not a raging ***** ***** about it.
- Aensland, on 04/20/2008, -1/+17He's just bitter his "model" girlfriend turned out to be a psycho control freak.
- insomniac8400, on 04/20/2008, -1/+16You can't look down?
- ih4cker, on 04/20/2008, -4/+18you
- nekochan, on 04/20/2008, -2/+15he can't. he's a yeti.
- BossKey, on 04/20/2008, -1/+13I've been writing with computers for many years and while most of Apple's keyboards have actually sucked, I like the new Aluminum keyboard. It is simply a desktop version of a good laptop keyboard. After spending many recent years writing on laptop keyboards, I now prefer the light touch and short depth of them. Yes, the old IBM keyboard is still great, but I no longer like the long throw and the loud, loud clacking they make.
One reason I like the ergonomics of the new keyboard is that it's almost flat on the desk. This promotes good ergonomics because it's easier to drop my arms down lower than with the tall traditional keyboards. Plus, it isn't angled. While people think they like angled keyboards, they encourage bending your hand up at the wrist, which is bad ergonomics. The new flat Apple keyboard makes it easier to keep my arm straight from elbow to knuckle. It really does have ergonomic virtues. - jemmrich, on 04/20/2008, -10/+22lol I laugh in your general direction, kind sir.
Your argument about system wide scripting languages; what makes you think languages such as python and the like dont work? Your statement about choice of editor is weak and does not further your argument, as it deals with end user preference.
As for UI design lets be honest, even mac has its ***** off guideline apps! These "rogue" applications are most likely 3rd party and something that can only be controlled by the individual developer. Large applications such as Nautilus, and window managers like Gnome, have their UI guidelines set, and child applications by those developers are always being updated to conform to those design guidelines, so i really dont see why you have to rant. - nekochan, on 04/20/2008, -7/+19microsoft?
- wush, on 04/20/2008, -1/+12Would you take ergonomics advice from the company that makes the mighty mouse?
- oneoverzero, on 04/20/2008, -2/+13Eh, give me a good sturdy buckling-spring keyboard any day over the ergonomic ones.
- GhostyBoy, on 04/20/2008, -0/+11Oh wow...I just realized I had my shoulders all hunched like in the picture! What a helpful article!
- Ryansmellsfarts, on 04/20/2008, -1/+12Man, I'm doing the neck bent thing right now...time to hang up on the person I'm talking to.
- yabos, on 04/20/2008, -4/+14What does it matter, nothing has changed in the human body since it was written. It's just as accurate as it was back then.
- PueSi, on 04/20/2008, -1/+11RIAA
- inactive, on 04/20/2008, -3/+12About the guide, though: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
As for the hockey puck? Just ignore it. Time will heal all. - Arramol, on 04/20/2008, -5/+141) What does this have to do with the article? You know you're a fanboy when you troll even when it's only tangentially related.
2) Your Super Model girlfriend costs a heck of a lot more than my "also" girlfriend, yet mine runs games much, much better. Let's see you get a quad-core Mac with a top-of-the-line video card for ~$1000.
3) Hookers? Seriously? - Mootabolife, on 04/20/2008, -0/+9If you're the bottom left guy, during your spare time do you fly around in tights?
- dnields, on 04/20/2008, -2/+11"Apple should just market their products, not a life style."
This isn't an Apple page, therefore Apple isn't marketing anything on this page. Get over it. - nshady, on 04/21/2008, -0/+9Whatever the rest of digg tells me to hate.
- PueSi, on 04/20/2008, -1/+10There are mice for lefties too, they should offer two versions to make it comfortable for both , not one version which make it uncomfortable for both.
- benplaut, on 04/20/2008, -0/+8tapping away on an old Dell buckler right now, with two IBM clackers on the closet... why the heck aren't these things made anymore?
- sphark, on 04/20/2008, -0/+8LOL No. They didn't. http://www.apple.com/about/ergonomics/upsol.html
- CCmachined, on 04/20/2008, -1/+8Linux > Microsoft > Apple
why?
runs on all hardware, pretty much > runs on 95%+ of hardware, which people already have > runs on niche hardware; MAKES YOU BUY COMPLETELY NEW HARDWARE for no reason. Macs are x86, thats PC architechture! there's NO reason you shouldn't be able to run OSX on a PC, period. (hacks dont count, apple should SELL OSX on PCs.) but of course they won't, they've defined their enemy as "The PC" for years. EVEN THOUGH EVERY INTEL MAC IS A PC, right down to the bone. - subterfuge, on 04/20/2008, -11/+18personally, i much prefer linux's interface to that of macs, and i own a mac. linux is much more organized and customizable, and several times a year updates come out for individual programs (not to mention the the OS itself (Ubuntu)) so if something is weird about a program, it will most likely get fixed soon
- sphark, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7It's not fixed. You just have to click through to the page with the pics: http://www.apple.com/about/ergonomics/upsol.html
- niviq, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7The "clickme" is too revealing. BAD SPAMBOT!
- katieedwards, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7uhm...no you didn't
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