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physorg.com — AT&T plans to offer a version of an iPhone next year that runs on a faster wireless network so users can get speedier results when surfing the Web.

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  • inactive, on 12/01/2007, -1/+68I don't get it. Steve Jobs already confirmed a iPhone with 3G months ago when he was in England. This guy from AT&T comes out and says exactly the same thing and now everyone is excited. He didn't even give a date, just like Steve Jobs. Am I missing something?
  • ojk007, on 12/01/2007, -8/+45you will know the difference when you upgrade your home Internet from dial-up
  • Ocelot13, on 12/01/2007, -3/+27welcome to the mac section of digg where "old news" is "new and exciting news" once resubmitted
    didnt you see it on the brochure?
  • ShrimpCrackers, on 12/01/2007, -3/+26Doesn't browsing the mobile version of web pages negate the whole point in those Apple commercials that say get an iPhone, "so I can browse the REAL web".
  • superkendall, on 12/01/2007, -2/+20If you were actually old enough to have used dial up you would understand why we laugh and laugh when people like you say that. Have you every *used* dalup with a modern web browser and site? We aren't running Gopher anymore you know.

    EDGE is slow but tolerable. For Google maps it's perfectly usable.

  • node3, on 12/01/2007, -2/+18I don't recall ever getting 200kb/s over dial-up.
  • amulrean, on 12/01/2007, -20/+35Edge really is much better than I expected on the iPhone. I have never had a problem surfing over Edge.
  • inactive, on 12/01/2007, -2/+11This was on the front page already. Yesterday.
  • inactive, on 12/01/2007, -1/+10I must live in a different world.
  • bigsteve, on 12/01/2007, -2/+10Nah, I'm very happy with my iPhone. Does everything I need and want, and more. I hope you're happy with whatever it is you use.
  • clockdist, on 12/01/2007, -6/+13It may have 3G, but it wouldn't necessarily be a better phone.
    Unless you're a female toting around a purse, carrying around a bulky smartphone in your pocket having anywhere close the features the iPhone has, is not cool.
    And please don't start with that Windows Mobile crap.
  • epyon180, on 12/01/2007, -0/+7I don't understand why we need to hear this news again. "3g iPhone Confirmed" and "faster iPhone on its way" mean the same thing, and I will ignore the fact that steve jobs said pretty much the same thing a couple of months ago. The new iPhone having 3G is just like saying "the new iPhone will have more memory", we knew it was going to happen.
  • LvsSocer, on 12/01/2007, -3/+10Anywhere close to the features the iphone has? Are you kidding? The iphone excels at what it does, but what it does is very limited compared to an open system (palm, winMo, you name it).

    I personally went with a WinMo phone so I could use a slingbox and tether it to my laptop .. all on a fast 3G network. And the phone (touch/mogul) is smaller and (with the right apps) far far FAR more useful than the iphone for a power user.

    My officemate has an iPhone and we did a comparison. I was able to surf pages far more quickly using Opera Mobile than he was able to using Safari on the Edge network. (Full pages mind you, not the mobile variants).

    Are there better phones than the iPhone? Yeah. Hell Yeah. You just have to get out of your box to find them. Oh... and I get all of my service (phone + 3G unlimited data) for under $30. Beat that with AT&T and your locked iPhone if you can.
  • superkendall, on 12/01/2007, -0/+7It's not for another year anyway, and it's not like you're not going to get use out of it in the meantime. Just relax, enjoy your phone, and think about a new one when the time comes.
  • ThinkBox, on 12/01/2007, -0/+7I like how nody notices that the FCC has to approve such a device... and they havent yet... so it will be a little while....
  • epyon180, on 12/01/2007, -2/+8And you can enjoy waiting for your phone to get a decent UI and Web browser so you can actually use the 3G.
  • championchap, on 12/01/2007, -1/+6You find me another Mobile Phone that is a easy to use as my iPhone.
    I learned how to do everything on it in like 10 minutes. Ive had my old one for about 4 years now and i still dont know how to do everything.

    Its not the features that the iPhone has that make it amazing, its the simplicity and the flow of the design of the thing.
    Its the first "smartphone" that has ever felt smart to me.. the others are awkward to navigate and made me jump through unnecessary hoops to accomplish simple tasks.
  • undersky, on 12/01/2007, -2/+7To my surprised, too, that EDGE is quite fast. You can stream YouTube video on that thing...so what else are you really asking for? Sure it's not as fast as 3G, but to say it's slow like dial-up is simply ignorant. It's much faster than dial-up.
  • death2newbs, on 12/01/2007, -3/+8Funny that people who hate on the iphone feel the need to comment on all the iphone stories. If you think it sux then don't buy it. Personally, if the new iphone doesn't offer more than 3G I'm not going to get a new one. Wifi is better anyway, and it's pretty much available anywhere I would feel the need to use the internet browsing sites that are big enough to require a faster connection.
  • virtualball, on 12/01/2007, -2/+7Yup, when I tether, I can download at ~23 Kb/s. Thats about 10x faster than my parent's AOL account. For a phone that can't download, its fine, especially because we live in a world where there is Wi-Fi everywhere.
  • ShrimpCrackers, on 12/01/2007, -2/+6Sorry, but in America, especially around cities, 3G is widely available. I haven't found a single place where my Sprint phone doesn't get 3G in NYC (it was Sprint SERO couldn't resist). Edge is missing in some places in Flushing and other areas in NYC for my iPhone (it was too pretty, couldn't resist).
  • DrStephanHeimer, on 12/01/2007, -1/+5thanks for defining acceptable performance for everyone!
  • colto, on 12/01/2007, -0/+4Er. I believe what you meant to say was EV-DO. SERO operates off of a CDMA network and just finished upgrading their whole network to EV-DO Rev. A. While Sprint's EV-DO is technically a 3G protocol, it is totally different from the 3G protocols that ATT are/will be using (HSPA, HSDPA, etc.) and is thus an apples and oranges comparison.
    Info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G
  • ronmexico, on 12/01/2007, -1/+5Not everyone lives in NYC. The nearest 3g to me is 150 miles and I live in a metro area of 100,000+
  • SSUK, on 12/01/2007, -1/+5Because it's always good to hear arguments against a product you may be interested to buy, if this clashes with your fanboy ideology, then that's not our problem, it's yours. Live with it.
  • bigsteve, on 12/01/2007, -0/+4In Philly metro area, digg / slashdot / fark and similar news sites I don't think have ever kept me waiting more than 10 seconds on my iPhone. The iPhone doesn't have a whole lot on the Treo, processor-wise. I'd blame it more on WinMob/IE.
  • Speed, on 12/01/2007, -1/+5The FCC didn't approve the iPhone until like a month before its launch (if that)
  • ShrimpCrackers, on 12/01/2007, -3/+6Although I'm an iPhone user, modern day smartphones, such as the HTC Mogul, have a smaller profile than the iPhone although somewhat thicker. Its hardly bulky.

    Plus women and men have no problems carrying the larger Sidekick. Every other person owns one in NYC.
  • bigsteve, on 12/01/2007, -3/+6Yea. My work Treo has 3G, but if I'm surfing the web in the park on my lunch break or something, it's never on that thing. iPhone hands down.. the overall interface experience to me is more important than the what, 2 seconds I'd save? 3 seconds?

    I'm the network admin. That means I take long lunches, so I have the time to spare ;)
  • moofer, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3and you seem to enjoy reading/commenting on it
  • skinfitz, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3And not everyone lives in the USA. In Europe 3G is standard.
  • markwilcox, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3Yeah but then when the 3G iPhone's out you'll say you'll just wait for the 2nd Generation iPhone, and it'll keep going on and you'll never be happy until you just go out and buy the one that's out.
  • node3, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3Every complaint you make about EDGE is valid (latency is an interesting one for you to bring up, since it necessarily affects 3G as well). But that's not the point. *No one* is going to say EDGE is so wonderful that they don't want anything better. It is, however, significantly better than I was expecting, given both what the naysayers (like yourself) where saying about it, and my experience in the past with non-EDGE GPRS.

    The problem here is you are pretending EDGE is so bad it's worse-than-useless. That's simply not the case. It gets the job done while in-between WiFi islands. 3G will definitely be nice, but I've never *not* used the Internet on my iPhone due to EDGE being too slow.

    Don't overstate the speed issues with EDGE (the difference between broadband Internet and dial-up is greater than between 3G and EDGE), and you won't get dugg down. It's not "fanboys who can't accept the truth," it's you making a post which misrepresents the truth.
  • morcheeba, on 12/01/2007, -0/+3Please stop spamming for your ad-laden site: http://www.digg.com/users/DipDog3
  • superkendall, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Are you prepared to wait a year? Because jobs said the new chipset would be around later next year, and to me that seems optimistic.
  • PFinn, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2so many people freaked out about the price drop in the iPhone that it only seems inevitable before we start hearing... "i want money back because i dont get to use the 3G network, it is your fault [Apple] that i adopted this new technology early, and therefore i am entitled to something."
  • taznumber1, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2But the thing that people need to remember about the 3G networks in the US is that they are only in select cities so if you are not in one of those places then you might as well just get the current iphone because I am sure the 3g version will cost more. You will see the same speed because they would both be using the same current edge network we have today.
  • chrisrad, on 12/01/2007, -1/+3But, I just bought my iPhone :( :( (i'm from australia)
  • championchap, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Surely we can part exchange them at least in an apple store next year for the new models?
  • championchap, on 12/01/2007, -1/+3The quality of the video is lower than when you get it over Wi-Fi though..
    EDGE is nice, 3g would be better.. but if it cuts my battery life even more then i just dont want it.
  • bigsteve, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2For me, MythTV+iPhone beats out slingbox. It's free, and I don't watch TV shows when they're on when I'm home anyway. Just have to avoid my friends at Tuesday happy hour talking about Heroes if I didn't get a chance to watch it at lunch on my iPhone.
  • Rexxy, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Somebody's been reading Cringely >-)
  • tnoy, on 12/01/2007, -1/+3Iphone.
  • thecosmicpope, on 12/01/2007, -4/+6"AT&T plans to offer a version of an iPhone next year that runs on a faster wireless network so users can get speedier results when surfing the Web."

    Excuse my ignorance here, but the way this is worded it sounds like you have to buy a new phone (and these aren't cheap), just to get a faster network? Does that mean the phone is the limiting factor when it comes to network speed?
  • ronmexico, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Even with this news I'm still buying one. AT&T just bought out my local carrier and I'll be getting a phone when they become available here Dec 9th. I thought about waiting too but like markwilcox said, you'll never be happy if you keep waiting.
  • AndrewWiggin, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2I'm interested in hearing more about this phone and unlimited data for under $30. Can you show me a link?
  • pixelsoup, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Old story regurgitated to grab a headline.
    Lame.
  • undersky, on 12/01/2007, -2/+3Do you know you can stream YouTube over EDGE fine?
  • ChrisTek, on 12/01/2007, -1/+2@thecosmicpope: The phone isn't the limiting factor in network speed, the network is. However, there are several different types of networks in the United States, some have faster data speeds than others.So if you upgrade the phone's hardware to use a better network, it gets faster.
  • DrStephanHeimer, on 12/01/2007, -2/+3shut up you troll!
    Other people are content with browsing over Edge, especially compared to what was around before it.

    "Real world browsing on EDGE is about the same or worse then dial-up"

    This is merely your opinion and opinions are like *****, and yes you are one!
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