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Fast OS Switching on Black MacBook (video)

youtube.com — New black MacBook running Ubuntu, WinXP, and MacOS all at the same time! This is the ultimate setup!

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  • locu543, on 10/12/2007, -9/+33Thats one of the coolest things I've seen in some time
  • shout, on 10/12/2007, -12/+93That video could have been a lot shorter.
    • shaund, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30He is trying to show the incredible performance it has while running 3 os
    • robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38I have to admit, I'm very impressed that it ran as fast as it did with all three OSes running simultaneously.

      Bear in mind, however...

      3 clean OS installs will run alot faster than when additional programs are installed.
      He did nothing CPU intensive as far as i can tell, did lots of web browsing, installed Firefox, and installed what i think is GIMP.
      -Run some videos and burn a DVD simultaneously- I'll go out and buy one tomorrow.

      Still gets my digg, though.
    • jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -78/+8yay, the return of the pointless multiple os stories on digg!!
    • LordVoldemort, on 10/12/2007, -73/+2"-Run some videos and burn a DVD simultaneously"

      I can do that with my 5 year old PB.
    • robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42"I can do that with my 5 year old PB."

      I'm sure it can. Now run 3 OSes simultaneously too.
    • LordVoldemort, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11I'm not certain, but:

      Virtualization between operating systems is just a (possibly extended) use of the virtualization that occurs between programs running under one OS. The only major difference is that when we speak of an OS, we speak of the kernel (and user mode kernel processes):

      Most of the CPU cycle time is lost to processing interrupt requests (IRQs), which are the signals that tell the CPU that some piece of hardware needs an action to be performed.

      However, I imagine that most of these IRQs are not sent to the "background" operating systems, leaving plenty of time to process all the user mode apps and backround daemons in these operating systems as if they are extra (relatively low-priority) programs alongside those in the foreground OS.

      Hence, why should running three operating systems slow down the computer so much that playing some videos and burning a DVD would become amazing feats --Especially with the dedicated virtualization hardware in the current Intel chips?

      Now, I don't know the details, so excuse me if I wrong.
    • LordVoldemort, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I suppose the largest problem would be the lack of physical memory (RAM), resulting in more virtual memory page faults.
    • koick, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11@robbh66

      Yeah, and notice how he says:
      "Left side of MacBook is very hot.
      I have rebooted once by heat.
      and sometimes MacBook is freezed..."
      (and in the video, you could hear the fan just kicking in at the end)
      I personally am VERY excited to get a Macbook or Macbook Pro, but these heat issues have me waiting until they are resolved...
    • brentcore, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3yeah, and the big question is if wireless will work under ubuntu...I'm guessing the only internet connection he can get under linux is through a wired connection
    • bloodylip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why would he only get a wired connection in Ubuntu? Intel wireless is fully supported AFAIK in linux. Last I checked, it was one of the chipsets to look for if you were hoping to have your wireless work.
    • brentcore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3is that the case? Then i take back what i said. I thought I heard somewhere that the macbooks were using a broadcom based chipset. And broadcom obviously blows with linux. I sure hope you're right though!
    • chad78, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@LordVoldemort

      In his blog (which is in Japanese, I let Google translate it for me) he said that he replaced the RAM himself - so now he has 2 GB, which I'm sure helped a lot.

      @brentcore & bloodylip

      If you notice, there is an ethernet cable running from the left side of the MacBook. I'd imagine all 3 OSes were using the wired connection. And, the MacBook doesn't use Intel wireless - it uses AirPort Express, which would likely need it's own drivers.
    • nickroethemeier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The macbook uses an atheros 5006 chipset, or thats what linux said :)
    • rspeed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"MacBook doesn't use Intel wireless - it uses AirPort Express"

      There's no such thing as Airport chipsets. They've been either Lucent, Broadcom or Intel.
  • StrykerMicro, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12would love to see a follow up video on how he did it!
  • benliong, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3That is definitely way better than having to reboot for windows-only applications. I'd imagine that if I want to play games, booting into windows and having only one OS on the system would be the better thing to do though.
  • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4that's it. apple needs to get a phat lisencing deal from them immediately!
  • frozendice, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13While that seems cool, it uses a TON of memory and HD space. Plus it's hard moving files between all those OSes, you have to maintain all of them, keep them updated, virus free, cleaned out, secure,etc. If say for example OS X could nativly run Windows and Linux apps then that woudl be awesome.
    • Falcorian, on 10/12/2007, -16/+24"... you have to maintain all of them, keep them updated, virus free, cleaned out, secure,etc."

      Well, only if Windows is one of the OSes being booted! *Rimshot* Thank you thank you, I'll be here all night!
    • hmniq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"it uses a TON of memory and HD space"

      It's painful to imagine the sheer amount hard disk thrashing that will be going on when he's running anything more than a few browsers, but very cool nonetheless that he got it working.
    • uptown, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8"Plus it's hard moving files between all those OSes"

      Why not store your files on a NAS and just connect to it from each OS?
    • robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Why not store your files on a NAS and just connect to it from each OS?"

      Somewhat kills the point of a laptop if everything is on a NAS.
    • LordVoldemort, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3In order to share files, couldn't you mount a common partition between them, or setup an FTP server in each, or some such hack?
    • robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4No.

      OSX speaks HFS Plus. XP speaks fat32 or NTFS and Ubuntu speaks ext3 (i think). Their are various hacks for ubuntu reading NTFS but AFAIK, it still cant write to it. I'm sure someone could come up with some sort of FTP hack, but at that point you're getting to the point of way too much work without nearly enough reward.

      Only thing I can think of is making a fourth partition fat16. Windows and I think ubuntu can read it, don't know about OSX but I'd suspect not. Problems with that is its fat16, its yet another partition, OSX cant read it, and its still fat16 .
      As for your previous arguments about virtualization: I dont know enough about virtualizations and IRQs (haven't really had to deal with em in 10 years) but I'd suspect you're wrong. I'm guessing that virtualization between OSes is a lot more complicated as the OS itself has to have direct access to various hardware components and the OSes are running concurrently (shown by starting an installation and switching to a new OS).

      However, the obvious reply is your five year old PB is PowerPC and it wont run XP or ubuntu without some serious emulation- in which 3 OSes would absolutely overload it. :)
    • goldenratio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Wrong robbh66! All three OS's can read and write FAT32.

      Just make an extra FAT32 partition if you need to share files between all 3 OS's.
    • robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2I stand corrected. A quick check of Wikipedia confirms this.

      However I'll stick by my fat16 comments applied to fat32- I'd require a journaling filesystem especially with a laptop that might possibly overheat and freeze on me. Not saying it would- just heard more than a few complaints.
    • WorldGroove, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, a common FAT32 partition for both.... yup... that worked great for me until I was dismayed by a shocking(at least to me) fact.

      FAT32 cannot have a file that's bigger than 4gigs....

      But, other than that... life is good.
    • Brewno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I partitioned ubuntu and OS X to share a home directory on my old PPC ibook - it can be fiddly, but can be done. Now Windows would be a different matter entirely - I wonder how windows does mounting and such.
      Can you play a fullscreen 3D game in the Windows whilst the other two are browsing?
      When my macbook arrives in a few days (the cheapest white one) I may give this a go.
    • shifty3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All OSes are able to mount FAT32, but a partition can only be mounted in one OS at a time. So that won't work for sharing files when running everything in parallel.
    • Lounger540, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1deleted
    • bilangew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Fat16 isnt a really good idea, to start with. You cannot have a Fat16 partition bigger than 2Gb, thats a technical limitation.
    • Lounger540, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9_______HFS______Fat32______NTFS_______ext3_______UFS
      OS X___R/W______R/W_______R__________R/W(2)_____R/W
      Linux___R/W______R/W_______R/W(1)______R/W_______R/W(6)
      Windows_R/W(3)___R/W_______R/W________R/W(4)_____R(5)

      1) NTFS supported by fuse, http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuse/ , considered a little risky still. OS X support may be coming
      2) OS X ext2 driver, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/ , ext2 is compatible w/ ext3 with out journaling info
      3) See MacDisk, http://www.macdisk.com/ , or http://www.macwindows.com/disks2.html for others
      4) Supporting via, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html , has some small limitations
      5) Via commercial UFS explorer, or http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/about.php
      6) May need to recompile kernel for this support with certain distrosnn

      Sorry for the weird formatting and double post, digg ignored the spaces first time
  • cubed2d, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1That does look amazing, i was wondering if the macbook would struggle running mutiple copys of Virtue.... no if only it worked with 30 cinima displays then id be sold on it!
  • beast, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5Nice
  • RichMan, on 10/12/2007, -21/+3I want to see him loading three games at the sametime, one on each os, and see how well the Macbook handles it.
    • uptown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18...why would you need to do that? That's like saying you won't buy 3 cars because you can't drive all three at the same time.
    • mozzep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Three games of Pong. I think it could be done, easily.
    • thesauce, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3whats your point? not being able to drive them all at once is a perfectly good reason. why would anyone need 3 when they have 1 that works?
    • fredinator, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4@uptown according to you virtulization is useless then, we may as well dual boot
  • dhuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7to all you people saying he needs to run more applications on it to make it more real life, or whatever...

    really - why? why would you need to switch between 3 games on each different OS? i for on think that this is a great demonstration of the macbooks capabilities. if you are going to use 3 different OSes, or even 2 different OSes, you aren't going to be using very intensive apps anyway.

    either way, pretty slick!
    • EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I dont really care to see 3 games going on, HOWEVER I would like to see how the other OS's do under a heavy load. Right now I run Debian Linux and when I need a windows app or something, I open up VMPlayer. VMPlayer SUCKS for gaming, and if the load is too heavy under VMPlayer Gnome and KDE start acting really wierd and will lock up. Thankfully it hasnt ever locked up Linux so I can always remote in with ssh and kill VMPlayer, but its a hassle. I have a really nice new system setup for Debian and I would love to be able to play a few windows games. I just dont care for the hassles of dual booting, so if I cant do it in windows with VMPlayer...screw it.

      I have been considering buying a new laptop and would seriously consider one of these macs if I could do something like switch over to windows and play Serious Sam or Need For Speed (I dont know if these exist for Apple or not, but i dont care to repurchase them).

      Basically, I just want to know how well the other OS's can do hardware intensive apps. Anyone know??
  • purpleacid, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Those of you asking for some magical fairy to run games in each of the virtualizations...we all know its just far fetched. I'm very impressed the fact that a _laptop_ can handle 3 different operating systems running what seems to be simultaneously. I doubt my PC could do that any day...let alone any laptop that I would buy. I must commend the Apple guys in choosing Intel. Now move on to AMD, and stick an X2 at 65nm in that sucker and we'll really see it fly.
  • Guspaz, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5Virtualization for everyday use is lame, m'kay? It is super handy for doing QA or devel work, but much too slow to be practical for everyday use.

    If Xen can ever get proper video output support, then hypervisor-based virtualization would be good to go (due to extremely small performance penalties), but stuff like vmware and parallels is just impractical.
    • sspooner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You've clearly never used either, the performance is plenty fast enough. Your "everyday" usage is probably games, my "everyday" usage is development / debug work.
    • DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Parallels is hypervisor based.

      http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/

      "Parallels Workstation 2.0 is the first desktop virtualization solution to include a lightweight hypervisor, a mature technology originally developed in the 1960s to maximize the power of large mainframes."
    • Kelmon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'm sorry? The ability to run multiple OSs simultaneously is lame? What planet are you on at this moment in time? Virtualisation is awesome if you need to run multiple operating systems. Dual-boot is only of use if you need the full resources of your computer, which pretty much means you need access to full 3D acceleration. Given that this is only needed by games and 3D/CAD applications then most people can use this as a solution for working in their preferred OS while being able to make trips into other OSs in order to run applications that need that OS without having to reboot. As far as I am concerned, I'll be able to do all my work on a single computer using Virtualisation and get near full-speed from the guest operating systems.

      I really don't understand how anyone can consider this lame. Loads of benefits with very little drawbacks.
    • pabster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Parallels Workstation rocks.
    • systimax, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1dork
  • EmilioLizardo, on 10/12/2007, -25/+6Buh bye native OS X software!



    • gargantuan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12You just don't get it do you. Buh bye microsoft market dominance. Linux on IBM, installed on PS3, a mac that can seemingly run any operating system it wants, and now it can run multiple OSes at the same time!! And what does Microsoft bring to the table? Nothing but shoddy workmanship and bad manners.
  • nicklinus, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3omg this is so awsome!
  • lukaso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7In 10.5 Apple needs to (and hopefully will) take advantage of the hibernation feature built into windows to allow them to do that sort of switching without using any extra system resources, granted it takes a few seconds to load a windows session from the HD so the cube effect wouldn't quite work, however 5 seconds to switch to windows is much better than the 25 seconds it takes to boot otherwise. Also you wouldn't have to close all your work down to switch between. Whenever you wanted Windows it would write your OSX memory to the Hard Drive and load your Windows memory, and vice versa. I am sure they could incorporate Linux as well, although that probably is not their top priority, someone else would make it work even if that wasn't their intention.

    Now that I think of it, they could have a flash chip, equel size of the system memory that was dedicated to write the suspended OS to, this would speed up the transition 10 fold, and who knows, maybe they could pull off the cube effect if they lengthened it to 1 or 2 seconds?
    • FilCab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And... Can you tell me how they would change the kernel?
      You can't do what you're saying... It's a nice ideia, though.
    • elroy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3i'd much rather they run windows apps like they did classic apps... just boot windows in a mach thread. it'd require some hacking of windows, but they've already done a little of that with their drivers disc.
    • beendugg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+02 things:

      1) Windows restore from hibernation feature is nowhere near 5 seconds. I've tried it on everything from a single processor 2.0 GHz Athlon, to a quad processor Dell Poweredge 6850; with both fast and slow memory and disks.

      2) Many versions of Linux already support hibernation. SuSE and Ubuntu included. I suppose it'd just be a matter of getting this to work *between* OSes.

      Still, to your point, this feature *would* be handy; to save your current status if nothing else.
    • s0ny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why do they need to do this? The beauty of parallels or any virtualization is that when Im running windows on my MacBook Pro and get done with it, I just quit the program. The program then asks me if I would like to shut down or pause. If you pause it, it just saves the virtual hd's state and quits, and when you reopen it it starts from the exact same spot where you left off.

      And windows hibernation SUCKS.
  • whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28This is the web designers dream... drool...
    • TinFoil209, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Amen.
    • SnOwie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah indeed, now I use a site that posts automatic screens of safari layouts :)
    • gargantuan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4me too. I love browsercam, but i'll not miss it. Not when I get my hands on a kick ass new macbook!
  • thehouse, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I think with an os like apple's the only reason for the others is mostly parlor tricks, and a development/testing issues, along with the occasional proprietary issue remedy. I wish I could read .jnt files in osx, I have to go to a windows machine and convert them to pdf, something like this would save a good half hour every time some professor decides to distribute notes directly from Microsoft journal.
  • OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2That looks neet. I just want a real OSX for my PC. Its fairly compatible, and secure, and runs so much smoother than windows. (I agree though, other than for Devel I don't see a reason to run 2 OSs)
  • cosmotic, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4I dont know about it being the 'ultimate setup'. I sure can think of many other setups that would be better.
  • jguy584, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Is there a program i can use to switch like this between my XP and Kubuntu?
  • Ir0n_mE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Exactly what I want to do. Windows, OS X, and MythTV Frontend. Ultimate entertainment.
  • SnOwie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10First apple post that actualy impressed me...
    Even thinking about buying it now :)

    • EmilioLizardo, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3"Even thinking about buying it now :)"

      Make sure you come back so we can laugh at you if you do :)

    • IMesh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I agree, previously I could have cared very little about Apple but this makes me think I might want a Macbook Pro.
    • gekkokid, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8I'm feeling all funny down below, i thought i was hitting puberty but i'm re-becoming a mac fanboy, ***** :(
  • TinFoil209, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27Thought this was cute to post

    http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6484/picture101zk.png

    Video of the MacBook sponsored by: Microsoft
  • briangig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That is awesome...makes me want a macbook even more now. That really is an awesome setup...now only if apple developed a way to support it out of the box....i see that in the future.

    does anyone know if you can you use the same windows install for parrallels as for dual booting?
    • mbac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well, that's funny, but if everyone installing virtualized or "bootable" (as in BootCamp) Windows on MacIntels really abode by the law, Microsoft would be selling a lot more copies of Windows XP lately.

      I would sponsor Windows virtualization videos if I were in them, trying to bring MacIntel users to the dark side...

      (well of course this was a reply to TinFoil209, not briangig, damn my eyes...)
    • bigjoeystud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You can not use the Boot Camp version of Windows with Parallels. Unless you play games (although I've never tried it), you probably don't need to dual boot anymore.
  • rcomegys, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2While watching the video, I was thinking to myself "is that japanese on that guys computer?" apparently it is.

    leave it to the Japanese to revolutionize yet another aspect of technology.
    • bbatsell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The software he's using is readily available and the company who makes it is based out of Herndon, Virginia, but uh... okay.
    • bobx2001, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The computer is made by an American company, the virtualization software is made by and American company. Virtue Desktops is copyrighted by a person called Tony Arnold.

      Can you explain how the person who made the video is revolutionizing technology?
  • bobx2001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Impressive considering all the software used is in the beat stage and its running on a first revision machine.
    Anyone know of any programs that will let you share files between all the three operating system easily?

    • ratzfatz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4OS X itself does that right out of the box. Just check the "sharing for windows" box in the sharing control panel. That's it. All other OSes will see the shared OS X folder as a network volume.
    • bobx2001, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Could you share a desktop like that?
    • goldenratio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you just want to share files between the 3 OS's, you can create a FAT32 partition on the disk. Mac OS X, WinXP, and most flavors of Linux can all read and write to FAT32.
    • obobo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Network shares is the easiest way, as all 3 OSes can do Windows style sharing (both OS X and Ubuntu using Samba, of course). I do that to connect between guest OSes in VMware, and it works very well.

      Those of you suggesting a shared FAT32 partition: don't forget that allowing write access from different OSes would be a disaster! Each system does caching, and won't expect the file system to change underneath it. At best you'll not be able to see new files created, at worst (and expected) you'll completely trash the filesystem. Network drives are expected to change, so they're the simplest and safest option.
    • s0ny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Parallels has a shared folder feature already built into their App. You can add as many folders to it as you wish and if you setup all the guest OS's to share the same folders you should be able to use any file anywhere.
  • ratzfatz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@bobx2001 - you can share the content of ALL three running OSes via Apple desktop remote - including the switching effects and everything you've seen on the video. Can also be managed with many other (free) VNC clients! I can proof, it works!
    • bobx2001, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Send me the youtube link when your done.
  • Darwinian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0It actually happened so fast I missed it first time.

    I want a MacBook :( I've got an almost 5 month old iBook.
  • PradaPete, on 10/12/2007, -13/+0"New black MacBook running Ubuntu, WinXP, and MacOS all at the same time! This is the ultimate setup!"

    is it really...

    I don't know why you would need more than one OS per machine unless you have some funky tax software running only on windows
    • polyp2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6How about cross-platform development? Even for a web developer it would be extremely useful to do development under linux and have OS X and windows - complete with web browsers available at a keypress for testing.
  • ozid, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1looked fake to me. before he switched to windows initially it mysteriously scrolled up about three arrow clicks. and the camera focus changed a bit oddly. (I realize the brightness of the screen between the OS's affects it, but I am not talking about that)

    Transitioning that flawlessly with the not so amazing memory options on the black macbook... between 3 OS's none the less, just seems odd. I mean he wasn't bearing much of a load, but at the same time. I could just be overly skeptical.
    • DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You are overly skeptical. Take a look at the Parallels website. Read the forums. The guy has 2GB installed by the way.
  • ozid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1i take the memory options back.

    didn't realize they offered 2 gigs.

    thats pretty darn good for ANY computer. (but I perfer the 16 gig option on the G5, haha)
  • smackit, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5How did he do this sorry??
    • macewan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3why in the world would you mod. this down?
    • dombi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3He used a software called Parallels Desktop for the Mac. It kind of look like the older VirtualPC and it supports multiple operating systems. So he had two different Parallels setups running at the same time (Windows and Ubuntu), while Mac OS X was also running. rnrnIn Parallels you can run in full screen mode and you can also select various transitions to use when switching. That is what you see on the video. As you can see the guest OSs run pretty quickly. Parallels comes with a set uf drivers for Linux and Windows, which will let you take advantage of your Intel Macs certain hardware from within the guest OS. rnrnI am using the same exact thing for running Windows and it is definitely fast!
  • eyepodder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Looks sweet,

    But since I picked up my macbook on Thurs and just switched from XP to the MacOS I have had no reason
    to dual boot nor install Parallel. The only software I can't find a replacement for is my works VPN client. But other than that I can't see any reason to try this and I'm not a gamer.

    If you want to get your fan going on the MacBook try transcoding some video. FFMegX gets that fan going quick.
  • SnOwie, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Gb is on many laptops available atm.
    I got myself a Dell XPS (yeah mac fanboys, shout!) and the 2GB makes the difference !
    • kalisphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What's to shout about? You got a nice laptop.
  • h4lofourt33n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Wow. I have just been officially blown away by a mac. Consider me sold, I will be ordering a macbook as soon as the cash becomes available.
  • macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3very impressive!

    I'll be purchasing a new macbook in the next few months.
  • JimmyRyan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The fileswap problem would just be awesome it the 4th side of the cube was simply a shared file drive with some type of simple GUI for it all.. This is really amazing though!!
  • mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In order to run multiple OS like in the video smoothly, you're going to need a lot of RAM. I wouldn't be surprised if the guys' MacBook has at least 2GB. Running Windows XP with less than 512MB of RAM (virtual or not) is a horrible experience.

    Have to agree though that this type of virtualization has a lot of potential....
  • diggnationyouth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2do you need anti-virus for Macs?

    sorry i don't know!
    • history1me, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If you're running OS X, you don't. If you have windows running, then you do.
    • norz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@history1me: do you have facts? I understand this is common belief with mac os, but what are the facts?
      What about a firewall? You'd certainly need one, don't you?
  • smackit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Nobody knows then!
  • uownedge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I wouldn't say it's the perfect setup....Windows is involved ;)

    Flame on! :P

    In all seriousness though, it is really cool. Despite the fact that he wasn't doing anything terribly intensive, it's still awesome. This is the "lower end" consumer version laptop, running three OS's at one time, switching smoothly, and still running quite well.

    I intend to upgrade to a MacBook from my iBook as soon as funds permit.
  • hallowspirit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There's some neat features added when apple went intel, some bad one too shafted wiht integrated graphics, and slower firewire. Apple been disapointing me as of late. If were useing the x86 achitecture why can't we have better graphics cards. How about you don't jump the gun on things like pcmcia express slots.
  • kjm16, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Did anyone notice the sound of the fans revving up towards the end of the clip?
  • David01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2WHY THE ***** WOULD ANYONE WANT TO RUN XP AND MAC AT THE SAME TIME? WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO RUN MACINTOSH? MACINTOSH IS FOR NOOBS. DIGGERS ARE NOT NOOBS. I THINK YOU DIGGERS LET APPLE GET TO YOU WITH ALL THEIR ADVERTISING. THE IPOD IS THE ONLY THING THAT APPLE HAS GOING FOR IT.
    • sourcemonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@David01

      Yes David, I couldn't agree more. Feel free to come in and post, my staff is a good one, but here is how it goes...
    • bubbazanetti, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I would...just because.
  • flickmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"..my staff is a good one.."
    I feel sad knowing I get that reference :(
  • David01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@sourcemonkey-what staff? what post?
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