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- gronne, on 10/12/2007, -16/+77I think you dramatically overestimate the level of enthusiasm of this announcement for the average 15 year old.
It'll go something like this:
"Who the f**k are the Beatles?" - lord138, on 10/12/2007, -9/+52@wild
Yes. - chongli, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38@alwaysmc2
The Beatles are listed on Zune Marketplace, but the music is not available for sale.
Dugg to counter your bury. - kanavulator, on 10/12/2007, -8/+40@gronne:
I disagree. I'm fifteen. Every fifteen-year-old I know has at least HEARD of the Beatles. - aptmunich, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Yep, they're on there, but they aren't for sale.
Oh wow, I wonder what the tagline is going to be for iTunes?
(Psst kids: "Beatles for sale" is the name of one of their albums) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26No, McCartney needs to pay for his divorce.
- evolent, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23Incidentally, in a few years (okay, six) this is not going to be such a big deal anymore, as the Beatle's tracks start entering the public domain:
http://digg.com/music/Beatles_music_to_start_entering_UK_public_domain_in_2012 - WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21I've had my complete Beatles CD collection on my music player for years. What's the big deal over this?
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25Are the Beatles that big of an exclusive over the other services? Are there that many people out there waiting to download Strawberry Fields?
(not dimishing the amazing band, just curious if there are people desperate to download them) - bitterg, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22Can we stop with the "FINALLY.... something MIGHT happen which you already knew about anyway!!!"
Inaccurate. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Too bad I already have their entire catalogue on compact disque
- mecole21, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19or since Michael Jackson owns the Beatles songs... He needs to pay for another pedophilia trial...
- fadeout, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Russian scammers selling unlicensed songs to chumps isn't quite the same thing.
- contextclouds, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15John and Paul were, hands down, the greatest songwriters of the 20th century.
Let them (or their estates) make all the money they can from that fact. - ejm508, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11From my observation, the Beatles seem to appeal to just about everyone
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Or the idiots who don't know that he sold the rights during his legal battles.
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I think the Beatles are coming to the party a bit late. If they would have been on iTunes when folks were initially buying tons of ipods and filling up their players, they might have been a big draw. At this point though, anyone who wanted the beatles on their ipod has probably bought one of the "best of" CDs and ripped it. Or found stuff on the net illegally. Either way, not exactly the biggest news ever.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9carapi,
Maybe you could name another more successful band that had as much influence? Or are still relevent after 30-40 years? - JGuest, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11You realize that's like saying its been on Kazaa and limewire since the beginning... it's all illegal now anyway
- fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9jferrari:
"How you do get these songs at 320kbps when they are nearly 50 years old?"
You can convert any music to 320kbps MP3. The encoders don't check the age of the music.
"Have you actually listend to a beatles cd - the quality is nowhere near what you would expect a modern recording to be, so I dont see how the 128kbps itunes tracks will be a problem."
Then allow me to explain: Distortion and noise are additive. You will start with some noise and distortion resulting from the available recording equipment of the 1960s and to that you will *add* distortion from a low bit rate lossy data reduction codec (MP3). Thus, the sound will be worse. In addition, the types of distortion introduced by low bit rate MP3 conversions are sonically much different than the types of distortion one gets from older analog recording equipment.
Think of it this way: If you had to photocopy an old, faded document that you can barely read, would you use a crappy copier or a good one? - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10None of the money you pay to AllOfMP3 goes to the artists. That's why its a scam. Even if it is "legal" through some dodgy Russian legal loophole, the only difference between using AllOfMP3 and P2P to get your MP3s is that you're wasting money using AllOfMP3.
- anillop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8People are actually buying Zunes? Who in their right mind would do that?
- bdrydyk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@jferrari
I think you probably know this, but..
A high quality conversion of a low quality song gives you low quality sound.
A low quality conversion of a low quality song gives you ***** quality sound. - CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7A lot of the Beatles stuff is going out of copyright soon (at least in the UK, and presumably in most other countries which haven't adopted the US copyright laws) so it will only be relevant for the next five years or so.
- Wugie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12Thanks Micheal Jackson
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Wait....wasn't Apple Records just suing Apple Computers over Apple selling music?
Oh, I suppose they finally decided that they'd like to make money from this whole "digital music" thing - amandaw33, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Can you add a few more periods/exclamation points to the title next time?
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Huh? What are you trying to say, that Beatles fans are luddites? I have an iPod and it has all the Beatles albums on it (from CD). Plenty of people my age (early 30s) love the Beatles and own iPods. Keep your stupid generalizations to yourself please.
- jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6iirc, he sold the rights again, to fund one his multi-million pound shopping sprees.
- Dakk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+71. Find country with no copyright law enforcement
2. Rip CDs and sell MP3s on Internet hosted in said country
3. Keep the money sending no money to anyone involved in the production of the music ... Profit! - canadianguy33, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9That's kind of a funny conclusion to draw from this non-story.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I nominate you for the most intelligent headline ever written on digg. If only all our headlines took the form of "OMG!!!!...................Water: Is it H2O?"
- halleyscomet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@flag564
No flag564, a few fanboys said that the Beatles were no big deal. That does NOT mean ALL Apple users thought the same thing. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@gwinerreniwg - you are misinformed, rather badly. Around 8-10 cents from each song sold goes to the artist.
Some newer contracts are starting to reduce that, but it's what most of them get.
The post you responded to is right - if you're going to buy from AllOfMP3, just save your money and use P2P. - MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Too young to know how to use the shift key for capital letters apparently.
- gwinerreniwg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ carapi - Because I DO care if AOMP3 is illegal or not - They are legal (please show me a court ruling or law that indicates their legal status?). And #2, after spending upwards of $700 with them over the last 7 years, and knowing my credit info has not been comprimised, and further finding no apparent links to organized crime, I can feel good about supporting the company. Not something I can say about Kazaa and LimeWire.
- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you mean grandad
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dihydrogen monoxide is bad for you!
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5And there is always that nagging little bit about giving your CC number to the russian mafia.
- GLSmyth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have no need for DRM on the music I own.
- Dayyve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know - that's the first thing that came to mind. "Yay! Oh wait - I already own every Beatles album. Leave a comment and move onto the next digg story..."
- aecarol, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I have no idea where they will be for sale online, but I was led to believe that the Beatles albums were listed in the Zune store but they were not actually "available" to be bought.
Can you actually purchase any of the Beatles major works at the Zune store? If so, that is a major coup for Zune and I'm suprised we don't hear more about it.
If they are listed and not available (and don't become available soon) that their listing would be kinda misleading. - gronne, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6@kana
Are you saying that because you're an audiophile or because you think stealing music is the smarter thing to do? - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2First of all, the rumor is a limited exclusive.
But iTunes has no real exclusive on anything, since you can also buy CD's or other media - there is no monopoly, not in a legal sense anyway.
All Apple would be treading on is a brick road paved with stacks of Franklins. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Zune store, in order to inflate its perceived size, lists many albums and songs they don't actually sell (also it helps because you get cover art when you rip a CD).
Just like a puffer-fish, there is less there than meets the eye.
Just try to buy a Beetles song or album from the Zune store (or any online music store) and see for yourself. - MoreBonez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That's the point (though your implication that it's only old people who like the Beatles is completely false). The reason this is a big deal isn't that they'll FINALLY be available for digital purchase, it's the associated marketing campaign. The people who grew up with the Beatles are an essentially untapped market for the iPod. If a tiny percentage was convinced to buy one because the ads triggered some nostalgia, or at least made them realize you didn't have to be 15 to own one, that would translate into a huge number of sales.
It'd be an even bigger coup if another company could get the exclusive. "This whole iPod thing is confusing, but the Zune has the Beatles!" - tracydanger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I had the thought that's been mentioned by many already, "I've already got 'em on CD, so what?"
But, I think there are many, many people that don't currently have Beatles songs that would buy the songs on itunes. I'm sure that would be proved right if they actually do start selling them. Their songs are a great commodity and will do well in any medium. It would be a plus for itunes and the Beatles (although I, myself don't want the DRM on those songs).
Even though I myself ripped them from my CDs, it would be short sighted to think that others wouldn't buy on itunes. - Morph_Ball, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Let it be, let it be...Let it be, let it be..."
- Swift2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Come on, dudes, AllofMP3 is run by the Russian mob. It's about as legal as betting the numbers. You think they send a penny to the labels, or to the band? Dream on.
Still, it's the pricing model that would make the entire music industry global and interactive. If everybody's filling up music player with 10,000 songs, why not price them so a few hundred dollars would fill them up?
As for the Beatles, this is Jobs's baby. He's the guy who idolized the Beatles enough to name a computer after them. - Cander, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Tell that to the likely more than 1 band you listen to that was influenced by The Beatles in one way or another.
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