Controversial "Postal Service Video" Climbs to #1 at iTMS

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Jord4n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2zonkzor: "People blow me away sometimes. Why would you create a commercial that is so similar? Don't you care the least bit about your credibility? Do you seriously think Apple won't notice? Maybe the used car dealership around the corner.. but APPLE?"

You are an idiot. Did you even bother to read the article? Apple copied the Postal Service's video. Next time, you might want to try, I dunno, reading?
Rajio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why is this even on Digg?
Since when does Digg post the itunes charttoppers?
How is that not spam?
How is an instance of apply copying something news?
How is anything about the story controvercial?
WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How is the music video controversial? I thought it came out before the Apple commercial?
cusoman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@baldmonkey

Since when was it inappropriate to voice your opinion on why you "voted" for something? My Digg, I do what I want, thanks :)
Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For those of you who think that there's no copying/borrowing of ideas between the ad and the music video, let me remind you that it's not just the chip-fab cleanroom that the two videos have in common: the way the shots were composed (sped up machines and slow-motion humans, close up shots of wire fusers at work, that tacit moment of tension during eye contact, the angles at which the hallway scenes were filmed, the zoom-out from the chip at the end, etc.) and the fact that both were indeed made by the same producer should leave you no doubt that the producers basically got lazy and re-made the same video.

In other words, the question of whether ideas were copied is a non-issue; it's a known fact. It may be legal, but it probably wasn't ethical, since the band and publisher were not in on it. Fortunately, The Postal Service is getting some recognition from this; it would be sad if they didn't.
cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2GET OVER IT. Apple didnt copy the video, the director did... A video director/artist stealing from his own work is not a news. Do know how many copies Roden made of "Le Penser?" HUNDREDS. I wish I could minus-Digg this crap.
FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"The Postal Service doesn't care about money, sales, press or any of that"

Bullsh*t
CanYou, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2(from daringfireball.net): "From Ben Gibbard, in an un-permalinked note on The Postal Service’s web site:

"It has recently come to our attention that Apple Computers’ new television commercial for the Intel chip features a shot-for-shot recreation of our video for ‘Such Great Heights’ made by the same filmmakers responsible for the original. We did not approve this commercialization and are extremely disappointed with both parties that this was executed without our consultation or consent.""

Why, he's just a poor little petunia in an onion patch. I'm sure he's crying that many more crocodile tears now that it's number one on iTMS.

I wonder, since they initially offered the video for free on their site if they'll reimburse everyone who paid for it on iTunes. (the version from subpop is down:
http://www.subpop.com/bands/postalservice/downloads.php
AND the version on the band's site postaservicemusic.net is now the teeny lo-rez version. Hmmmmmm). So he's mad enough to complain, but not quite angry enough to NOT sell it via iTMS. Good thing he know where he stands.
FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Postal serive is crying and laughing. Crying all the way to the bank. Laughing at all you suckers who believe they didn't know about the commercial.
BaldMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Please stop telling us that you digg do not digg. There is no reason for it and frankly we do not care. And also we can all see how many diggs a story gets.

If you do not have anything to say, it is often better to keep your mouth shut, or your fingers of the keyboard..
AzBaja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The Postal Service video features a wonderful 100mm wafer, whereas the Apple commercial features a modern 400mm wafer."

Wow that blows me away, as we are just starting up FABS with 300mm wafers. 400mm ok wht ever dude.
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riancurtis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this was posted on digg because it is the most important thing ever. with any luck something like this will encourage the postal service to make another amazing album
-Ryan
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cusoman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1An Apple story be submitted by CLIFFosakaJAPAN?! Say it isn't so!

No digg, just 'cause. :P
thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wonder if they will pay commision....
ravage386, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What's misleading? It's controversial because Apple used many shots from The Postal Service's Such Great Heights video. The resulting attention has put it at number one. Nothing misleading about that...
I just don't see why Apple couldn't have used new footage and avoided this mess.

Such Great Heights and the John Tejeda remix rock, by the way :]
Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It would be great if someone had a video of this that I could see :) Tried the links on the site and they didn't show it, I only heard sound. Anyone have a link for an actual download? (not imbeded)
Dirk7589, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think that it is unfair that the group is sueing apple. The director is the one who had it shot that way and the director she be allowed to shoot anyway he likes his techniqques can't be copyrighted to film just the content and he didn't use there content.
GotGoose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Side by side comparison : http://www.eliteproductionswi.com/apple-ps.htm
supergwiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is too weird, last month I thought I was the only TPS listener now all geeks/bloggers/apple-fanboys are suddenly into a band that hasn't done anything in 3 years.
cpawl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Like ... Duh? This wasn't obviously going to be the outcome.

Welcome to big press kiddies.
BleckLord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and the right to parody without prior approval has traditionally been upheld by the courts.
http://www.bartleby.com/59/3/imitationist.html

"Stupid postal service, copied Apple's commerical. You see Apple actually made this video in the 1980s. Therefor the postal service copied Apple" -posted by Linuxrocks.

Um, right. Just to point out, because I thought it was funny, The Postal Service video features a wonderful 100mm wafer, whereas the Apple commercial features a modern 400mm wafer. Apple gets access to a really modern wafer, and The Postal Service gets stuck with a relic, shows how much pull Apple has. So if you know anything about semiconductor fabs, you'd think the opposite; the music video wafers were state of the art circa 1975.

"They wont be seeing a dime from any of this, record labels make about 90% of the profits from album sales."
Not only that, the band didn't even pay to produce the music video. They should totally be getting paid for it, because being a musician is about making money, not music.
toekneebullard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I understand that the controversy got publicity for TPS, but anyone realize how it also made Apple a bunch of money?
kyleh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Im happy for them...Great Band! they deserve to be #1
regeya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Am I the only person in the world thinking SFW?

(no, not 'safe for work', the *other* SFW)
Workster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I thought Apple copied their video instead?
Fuelrock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why do you think Apple was completely blind to the fact that it was a copy? Apple should be worrying about it's credibility as much as the firm that put the commercial together should be
rorrison, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wait a minute... ummm... so, this isn't related to those people that deliver mail? I am so out of touch...
csimpkins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"How is the music video controversial? I thought it came out before the Apple commercial?"

It's not. The new commercial is the controversial piece. The video has existed for some time now.
eatmybabies, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"you dont hear the government complaining about "Postal Service" copying the Federal government's program that delivers mail"

ummm yes you do, the postal service (government) sued the band, http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-11/04.shtml
itsmrdumass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Or maybe Apple made it #1 to counter act their earlier mistake
senselessending, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0you quoted postal service video as if that was the name of the song. or, you meant it ironically... ;)
dandiemer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i wanna see someone recycle that video again for some other completly different product.
azygousguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I found it funny when I watched it that they blurred out the name of the processor in the satellite at the end....

Does Intel have issues with a imaginary company? or is Apple just twisting the knife in my eye?
rhino_rampant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ummm, didn't the same director make both videos?
theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The Postal Service for steals USPS name without consent, then later USPS sends out an announcement praising the band for it's "tribute" to the United States Postal Service: http://www.usps.com/communications/news/press/2005/pr05_040.htm"

You tool. "The Postal Service" is a generic name used around the world. It's not confined to the USA. It's like naming your band "The Convienience Store".
freshfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0you dont hear the government complaining about "Postal Service" copying the Federal government's program that delivers mail
Drifton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I feel for The Postal Service, this is an outrage. If I had trusted a director to shoot a video for my music video, I would obviously expect him to not go off and resell it shot for shot. And why are people saying TPS shouldn't be complaining because of inflated sales on the Itunes store? Do you know anything about the music buisness? They wont be seeing a dime from any of this, record labels make about 90% of the profits from album sales.
ehmjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Love this band, and love their album but seriously, this is not a music video. It LOOKS like a commercial.

Now Michael Jackson's Thriller...THAT'S a music video (well it's a short film if you ask Jackson but still, you get my point)
Skardhamar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Come on peeps. Listen to the music instead of shouting. It's quite frankly the best music ever made...

I sure hope this case will only bring more fans than haters, and i mean good fans.
SniperGX1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Personally I think apple copying them was a good thing. I had never heard of them untill this whole "controversy" and I was curious so I downloaded some of their songs and liked what I heard. Their album should arive in a day or two from amazon, I would just go to itunes to get it but they only have DRM infected versions so its worth the wait
mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Didn't Apple steal another commercial (the Eminem ad) last year as well? It's getting to be an annual tradition.
ezkiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nothing like mad free publicity.
jodamiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Apple made the video the featured video of the week.
NickD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It will be interesting to see if this actually does mean that selling videos will make a significant difference to the royalties and artist receives from iTMS video sales.
Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0. . . let me ammend my prior comment: the machines probably weren't sped up, but the slow-motion shots of the people is still a dead give-away that the concept was copied.
CadMasterAdam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0very missleading title.

good one though
ehmjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hah! Van Sant's Psycho was an abomination, not a recreation. But point well made.
osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Weren't the videos made by the same director... I believe there was a digg that stated we all reacted too quickly.
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