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- msodrew, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26Wow. You're a douchebag hater.
From the comments of the linked article above:
Wisequark Says: {
the batteries on these laptops were recalled almost a year. having been someone affected by them, i received an email and a letter from apple informing me of the potential fire hazard associated with the batteries. if he was cavalier enough to ignore the recall, then he got what he deserved.
} - Nahor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Wait - so because there is code you can download that has a Leopard Preview requirement, from that you are deducing that attendees to the WWDC will get a copy of it?
It is interesting that they have that code up, but do you see how there is a bit of a gap in your claim there?
... it's a mat where you can ... jump ... to conclusions ... - iDrinkKoolAid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I own a Mac and a Windows PC. I can plug in a Canon digital camera to my PowerBook, and it's recognized without drivers. On a Dell laptop I used to own, even after downloading the Canon drivers the Inspiron 9300 still wouldn't recognize the camera.
As an aside, Windows Movie Maker wouldn't recognize raw DV files either - where iMovie has no problem.
So there's at least one person who agrees objectively with the Apple commercial. - xeeton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14I think their point was that most of the time you have to install drivers to have a PC "talk" to your digital camera.
- Nathan07, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11With my mac all I do is plug in a camera and it then asks if I would like to import the pictures from it into my library.... No such thing is in Windows (probably possible with third party stuff, but that would not be working out of the box would it?)
- LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I have a Canon S10... an older camera, but still something that should be supported. Using it with my Windows laptop meant going to Canon's web site, going through their ridiculous site structure to find the obscure drivers. Camera wouldn't do anything with the PC until that had been done.
The driver was included in Mac OS X, so iPhoto or Image Capture just worked. I'd say that commercial reflected my experience accurately. - nTensify, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Likely all of the applications will be built "Universal", but the disk will contain two kernel images.
- oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9you gotta be careful when you use a mac and camera together. it starts out innocent enough, the chatting, holding hands etc but the next thing you know you're camera's knocked up and your mac's looking for a new slicker model to import pictures from.
- eridius, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Why is this news? Apple confirmed ages ago that they will be providing a Developer Preview build of Leopard to WWDC attendees. The only thing remotely interesting here is an accidental release of sample code, but that's already been plugged, so this story is really not a story at all.
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@xeeton
Steve said that they have been making parallel builds, both PPC and Intel, but there is not yet one universal version of the OS. If you look at the install disks for intel macs they specifically say it's for the intel machines and the PPC versions only include the PPC OS. While as Steve said the OS has been made for both architectures, there is yet to be a universal binary of the OS. - dalurka, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8here you go:
http://www.duggmirror.com/apple/Confirmed_Apple_providing_Leopard_Preview_to_attendees_at_WWDC/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6http://www.neilchristie.com/dump/leopardpreviewrequired.jpg
- dkocolin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6the builds have not been universal since OS X was released
they have kept separate copies since release of PPC and Intel, and this still holds true with Tiger (Tiger Intel will not work on a PPC Mac and vice versa) - NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Funny, because the code in that sample will work just fine on Tiger. All this really shows is that the sample code submission form now has a checkbox for "leopard preview".
-jcr - davdav, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Wait and find out.
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6both links are bad
- LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Fat binaries are, in reality, not very "fat." Even though you need twice the executable code in an application, that doesn't mean you'll have 2X increase in the size of apps. The vast majority of the space consumed by an application is resource files like images, sounds, and GUI layout information... all stuff that doesn't care which architecture you run... Intel or PPC.
- lilmoonee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4thats what they said from panther to tiger. I think how they intergrate windows will be an interesting thing to see. dual booting is not a very apple type of solution.
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Sweet I hope somebody at he WWDC leaks it. I'll still buy it when it comes out, but I want to test drive the preview.
BTW, is Leopard supposed to be a universal OS, or will there be a PPC version and a separate Intel build? - steal_apps01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4how long till they stop supporting us PowerPC folk, mind you this late model iBook G4 does everything i want it too.
- xeeton, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8The builds since OS X was first implemented have been Universal. It was in a Jobs speech last year.
- tdp05, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6apple had a battery recall because the batteries had a fire hazard, hmm, this battery caught fire. I'd put money on the fact that this guy ignored or didn't get the recall info, though we cant know for sure.
No need to spam Mac related articles just to get diggs for something you posted. I dugg it because it's news worthy, regardless of the fact that I'm a fan boy. I dugg down your comment for the spamming though.
I don't know if Dell has or not for their affected machines, but they sure do like to catch fire. Dells seem to catch fire at a 2 to 1 rate compared to Macs. (Hows that for sensationalism!) - jk_baller23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, since they have "Get the World's First Look at Leopard" on this page: http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/index.html?homepage it's obvious that they are going to preview leapard, lol. What I really want to know is what new products they plan on releasing since I want to get a new monitor.
- kwojniak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Oops bad link. Here you go:
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/9800/picture1gg3.jpg - olp1ma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Doesn't seem so much like jumping to conclusions when Apple pulls down the page...
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I agree. Or should I say: "[Confirmed] This is Not News."
- Dithre, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'm not sure what's more exciting: a preview build of Leopard or the fact that the Cocoa QT Frameworks are going to be updated in Leopard.
- nTensify, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Nice offtopic comment.
- tsinbad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2LOL... CharlesDarwin, that was the first thing I thought of!
El Diablo! - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33:1 ratio BTW - you forgot the first one.
- greekgoat91, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4noice, they pulled it
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5well, super. weird. it's a very obscure feature to have included in a beta. why is some new QuickTime subclass feature the ONE that referrs to Leopard? i thought it would something more revealing such as, perhaps, QuartzComposerExtreme3DABCDLMNOP or something fun like that....
- tvashtar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've tried it and worked fine on a P4
http://www.osx86project.org/ - CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5It's illegal leopard man!
- lostngone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I believe the license agreement for Mac OS X states you can only run it on Apple hardware.
- Jeffrey903, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Was anyone able to download either of the files to see if it contains any hints for what is to come with Leopard?
- Gameflyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So does these OSX upgrades (Tiger --> Leopard) come with susbstantial GUI upgrades?
- Kupo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Actually, If you wait a few seconds, it redirects to the "hidden" page.
Sneaky, Apple. Sneaky. - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah. G5 prices have gone down for Apple Key Clients, so I'd say there's a chance that something new is happening.
- SystemError, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am thinking an IntelTower. My Apple business rep called yesterday and asked if were still interested in the G5s we had be talking about or if we wanted to wait a week or so and think about it.
- infectbda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think PPC support will stick around for awhile. Lots of PPC machines are in the wild, and cutting them off would cut into profits, and loose developers money. Maybe OS11 will be the first to be Intel only.
- TheQwe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2treblig, people have been doing it since the developer preview release of Tiger for Intel. The difference with Leopard, though, is that you'll be able to buy it off the shelf instead of having to acquire it illegally or buy an intel mac, as those are the only two ways you can get Intel OSX currently.
It's just a matter of time before someone cracks the hardware authentication... - trieste, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I can barely contain myself.
Got to go. Just seen a pony!! - CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fanboy stereotype pixies ftw!
- okcdude72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does anyone else think its funny when a story's title says "CONFIRMED!" then a little bit later it says may be inaccurate.
- Kolenka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is it still jumping to conclusions when Apple a couple months back was pushing the idea that the Lepoard preview was coming at WWDC (which has been when the first seeds of new OS versions have been given to devs, historically for the past 6-7 years straight?)... I am not so sure. I would be hard to test your code against the new version if you aren't allowed to have a copy. :/
- PhillyMJS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Mac Pro and Intel-based Xserve are a lock for Monday announcement. My company's Apple rep told us weeks ago that if we had any clients who needed Power Macs or Xserve G5s, get the orders in ASAP. That's a pretty good indicator that they're going away at WWDC.
~Philly - DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Yeah. G5 prices have gone down for Apple Key Clients, so I'd say there's a chance that something new is happening."
"there's a chance"?
Intel Mac towers at WWDC '06 are a given, WWDC has been the traditional outlet for Apple to release new towers, it's just obvious that they'll be released then, the timing is just perfect. - treblig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Not only is it in the license agreement, but I don't think you CAN run it on a generic pc... I don't know of anyone who's done it.
Apple is extremely controlling of these things. - CedanticPunt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3No, if they're giving early previews in August, it won't be out in September. Maybe March next year if you're lucky.
And if you can afford an MBP, then the $129 upgrade to Leopard ain't that much of a difference, surely? -
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