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- LeeSoong, on 11/05/2007, -6/+100Now can they fix the AT & T Exploit, which seems to costs users way too much money.
Pay per minute plans for $ 4 a month would be better. - OneManArmy, on 11/07/2007, -3/+75"rendering the latest attempts to jailbreak the phone obsolete"
This is not accurate. jailbreakme was only a slick way to jailbreak using the TIFF exploit. This is not the only way, and it is not the way used by iNdepedence for example. - galore, on 11/06/2007, -4/+63The phone hackers should not explain the exploit the next time. Let Apple reverse engineer the hack to find out what was exploited for a change.
- Roger, on 11/05/2007, -12/+54It fixes an exploit. Whats the problem?
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -4/+44Did you read the article? It's preloaded on UK phones. An update through iTunes will probably come soon enough.
- Adrianc333, on 11/05/2007, -28/+68OH *****!
I can't wait to Digg the "iPhone 1.1.2.1.2 Released - Packaging Pictures"
It's the same *****, but a different number, well worth the Digg's! - dcharti, on 11/06/2007, -7/+45Buried for completely misleading title. These iPhones have not been released to the UK, nor has this software update been released to the public.
- Daniel591992, on 11/06/2007, -10/+40Anyone else have an iPod touch that stops playing music when multitasking in Safari? Can an update fix that, or should I send it to Apple?
- wush, on 11/07/2007, -5/+34damned if they do and damned if they don't. it's a security hole - not just an entry point for "good hacking"
- Swift2, on 11/05/2007, -17/+45Now that they've announced the SDK, it's pretty clear now. Anything that runs from a malformed TIFF causing a buffer overflow is a security hole, and MUST be closed. Sorry if it screws up people's 3rd party apps, but "to live outside the law, you must be honest." DON'T INSTALL THE PATCH, but don't come crying to Apple if that leaves you vulnerable to a bad guy using this exploit to put something you don't want on the phone. Or, you can wait for the SDK and sales, I bet, through iTunes.
- Zero2aHero, on 11/05/2007, -1/+29In this instance it made the hackers look quite good though. In telling what the hack was, which was a general security hole, they also said that after they jailbroke the system they patched up the exploit so others couldn't do harm with it. Makes Apple look extra bad.
- carmat06, on 11/06/2007, -0/+20Your kidding right? The hackers patched this exploit over a week ago.
- iSharQ, on 11/05/2007, -1/+20You are partially correct: 1.1.2 hasn't been released yet. But as you can see from the article, these journalists have had access to 1.1.2 because it was pre-loaded on an UK iPhone which uses the UK o2 network.
- noahhoward, on 11/05/2007, -4/+23Apples updates aren't breaking their phones. If they break third party software it is not their problem. Firefox' latest update broke the Aardvark Extension, does that mean they broke their own browser or they are trying to stop web designers from fixing display bugs? No.
This is a very good example of why third party software wasn't allowed in the first place. As soon as an update for the regular phone software comes out and someones app breaks the blame goes straight to Apple. - deadbaby, on 11/05/2007, -15/+34Because approximately 98% of the people who own the device don't care about being able to run PigShooter. If it makes phone calls and plays music they are good to go. You will be constantly unhappy in life if you expect anyone to cater to the fringe 2% -- that's what Linux phones are for. You will find that while they do cater to the 2% they tend to seriously ***** up the 98% part.
- AnthonyA7, on 11/06/2007, -1/+19Since when are they breaking the law? Also, I'm not advocating murder or anything here, but it's good not to be a sheep.
- Bamborzled, on 11/06/2007, -0/+17Considering his username, the guy's a troll. Just block him.
- noahhoward, on 11/05/2007, -5/+22Wrong, updates that fix any exploit are security updates. What do you think would happen if it was left open and someone figured out, hey, I can grab peoples information through this thing? Do you think "we didn't want to restrict the people who were using the phone for something it wasn't made to do" will hold up during the class action suit?
No company is responsible for preserving uses of their product that it wasn't made for. You update and repair items based on what you released not what someone else may have started using it for. - luchid, on 11/06/2007, -0/+17You should really try 1.1.1. I have it, unlocked and it's leaps and bounds better than 1.0.2 IMO. Much more stable, faster, the added space bar double tap and home button functionality alone are worth the upgrade.
- 4ZERO1, on 11/06/2007, -1/+16Firmware 1.02 still works fine for me!
- AndrewWiggin, on 11/04/2007, -0/+15It's not the law, it's the warranty that we are voiding. Meh! No electronic device of mine has ever broken randomly within the first year anyway.
- lookoutforchris, on 11/05/2007, -1/+16So you consider fixing the TIFF exploit which is a security problem, and which Jailbreakme.com itself patches after it uses the exploit to install .... is breaking the phone? Also, Apple is opening the iPhone up to 3rd party devs in February. Are any of your comments valid?
- nfxmedia, on 11/05/2007, -10/+22You honestly believe this is solely Apple's decision? AT&T has already thought of this and I would bet there is a clause in their contract making Apple patch every exploit that would open the phone. Without action from Apple, they are vulnerable to massive lawsuits.
- iSharQ, on 11/05/2007, -8/+19The 1.1.2.1.2. would have been a software update, so you're talking about 'packaging pictures' of an ethernet cable, or perhaps of thin air (in case of wi-fi). That'd be quite hillarious, actually.
- Swift2, on 11/05/2007, -2/+13The PSP isn't a phone.
- dbbblondon, on 11/04/2007, -2/+12Simple - the phones arn't subsidised by the carrier so why should someone who buys it have to use their expensive contract...if the phones were freee then i'd have no problem paying £35 a month for a contract but they arnt - I bought 2 iphones from the US a month ago, they cost a total of £500 for the two including shipping, VAT and a few bagles for my friends in the US who sent them over....they were bought from an Apple store legitimately off contract clearly Apple didn't sell them to me at a loss. So why do you think that paying £269 plus a mad £35-£50 per month is reasonable and standard practice?
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -2/+12And the cat passes the mouse.... they're heading around the bend.... and.... OHH and LOOK!!!! Here comes the mouse again... he's gaining... he's gaining!!!
- luchid, on 11/04/2007, -4/+14I'll just repeat what I posted below:
"You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Jailbraking NEVER bricked phones, neither has doing it rendered any phone unupgradeable. Only UNLOCKING with the previous version of Anysim (1.0.2) caused that, and it was because it corrupted the baseband. It was a very untidy, hacked-together way of unlocking it that screwed tons of phones. Thankfully the devteam released a virginizer that can undo the damage made by Anysim 1.0.2 and updated Anysim to 1.1.1 which unlocks the iPhone in a much cleaner, safer manner."
Apple was basically telling that their unlocking mechanism wasn't safe enough when they warned them about the 1.1.1 upgrade. Since the firmare upgrade updated the baseband it wouldnt complete with a baseband that had checksum and integrity errors cause by the previous unlocking.
Time will tell if Apple is really trying to brick unlocked phones when 1.1.2 arrives and phones unlocked with Anysim 1.1.1 are upgraded to it. - noahhoward, on 11/04/2007, -2/+12You'll never fix that exploit.. people have tried and all have disappeared.
- inactive, on 11/04/2007, -7/+17so you'd rather they left this exploit open? I can't believe you've said this.
- zeeky, on 11/06/2007, -1/+11why not upgrade to 1.1.1 before they put 1.1.2 on itunes?
- notadiggtard, on 11/04/2007, -0/+9Then don't update!!!!!
- matttaylor314, on 11/05/2007, -2/+11I think someone could argue that we *do* have the right, based on the exception to the DMCA that was added exclusively to allow the unlocking of cellular phones
- tadunne, on 11/05/2007, -1/+10hopefully 1.1.2 works on the Touch too and they have sneaked in the ability to Edit/Add calendar entries..
- 5hocker, on 11/06/2007, -0/+9Wow. a very uninformed comment - yes the hackers had a fix for this very dangerous (but helpful!) exploit. Nobody is going to cry to Apple. Their vulnerability has been fixed for a week. Yours(Apple's) is still wide open as I write this.
- psylence, on 11/04/2007, -3/+12You predicted Apple would fix a security hole in their product? We should call you Nostradamus!
- phoomp, on 11/04/2007, -1/+10Because cellular providers shouldn't have to lock the phone to their service. The 2 year contract and hefty termination fees should be enough. All locking the phones serves to accomplish is try and lock customers to your service, even after the contract has ended. This is anti-competitive.
This isn't a new issue with the iPhone; people have been fighting to have phones unlocked for years. It's only the heavy publicity of the iPhone that is giving this issue so much visibility. That, and people were expecting the iPhone to revolutionize the cellular industry in the same way the iPod is revolutionizing the music industry. Instead, the iPhone is only reinforcing the current power structure of the cellular industry. - padfoot, on 11/04/2007, -3/+12November 9th. RTFA.
- bigsteve, on 11/07/2007, -3/+11I think deadbaby's referring to the Openmoko and (RIP) Greenphone, not the Moto Razr2 and the like that natively run Linux as a means to speed development for a multi-feature (and still locked down, poorly designed) phone with no power-user support. Now if say, Palm put together a Linux package with some developer community support for say, it's Treo platform, then we might have something. Maybe.
"Welcome to the 21st Century." - inactive, on 11/05/2007, -1/+9I almost bought an iPod touch this weekend (even though my trusty 4G iPod serves me fine).
But I'll wait until this whole 3rd party app thing gets sorted out first. - inactive, on 11/05/2007, -2/+10The mouse is winning.
- nfxmedia, on 11/05/2007, -3/+11I never said it was all AT&T's decision. RTFC.
- bobbothegrayson, on 11/04/2007, -0/+8Are they updating the ipod touches too?
- AndrewWiggin, on 11/05/2007, -1/+9I think the reason they explain the exploit is part of the open source philosophy. If they didn't explain how it works and give the code to prove it, it wouldn't be open source. I do understand where you are coming from though, I thought the same thing originally.
- abdul88, on 11/04/2007, -0/+7The iphone in the UK hasn't been released yet by 02.
- bigsteve, on 11/05/2007, -0/+7Nope, buffer overflow and remote arbitrary code execution exploit. I realize it's easy to patch thanks to the efforts of the devteam, but still a bug that I'm happy is now fixed for the huge percentage of iPhone users who don't take part in any sort of hacking that this might have affected adversely.
Think globally. - vanguardanon, on 11/06/2007, -15/+22Every time I see an apple update I look to see if it has the same outlook integration that palm has had since 2002. Don't get me wrong, I don't like my treo 650 but I can't actually ditch it before iPhone does the job I need it to do. Without integration to the most common business email/scheduling platform what the heck am I supposed to do with it aside from music and calls? Isn't it a smartphone?
- phogasmic, on 11/04/2007, -1/+8I have that same problem with mine, Its the most irritating thins about the iphone for me.
- Radan, on 11/05/2007, -4/+10Wait, you are complaining about them releasing an update which among many other things fixes a very serious BUG which lets hackers take full controll over the phone simply by making the user open a specific web page? Yeah, seriously, bad Apple....
- pyrates, on 11/05/2007, -2/+8Idiot submitter. It's not available on iTunes yet, so Apple did NOT update iPhones to 1.1.2. Inaccurate BS headline.
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