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- likwidfuzion, on 01/03/2008, -2/+88Not surprising considering Steve Jobs is affiliated with both Apple and Walt Disney which supports Blu-Ray.
- tastypastry, on 01/03/2008, -1/+46Apple has been backing Blu-Ray from the beginning.
- timusca, on 01/03/2008, -4/+41Typically, I don't buy anything from analysts... but his reasons for saying Apple is going Blu-Ray do make sense...
- postalblowfish7, on 01/03/2008, -11/+47this spells doom for toshiba. for all those that thought blu-ray in all ps3s doesn't make a difference:
i was one of the people who scoffed at sony for putting blu-ray in ps3s, and i was one of the many ps3 owners who didn't care about HD movies, and was reluctant to pick a side. then i went to best buy to pick up the latest harry potter movie - they had the blu-rays sitting next to the regular DVDs, and i thought to myself "i've been watching regular DVDs on my ps3, might as well get the blu-ray..."
so it began. i now own 6 or 7 blu-rays and can't see myself getting a regular DVD if a blu-ray version exists. even on an old, non-HD TV with s-video you can tell the difference. i'm tired of the format war, and feel like i'm finally doing my part to end it. - HenvY, on 01/03/2008, -4/+37Blu-Ray as a storage format is also leagues ahead of HD DVD - Write speeds, potential capacity etc. Combo players are far more expensive and less reliable.
- fangorious, on 01/03/2008, -0/+32Apple is on the Board of Directors of the Blu-ray Disc Association, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Associat ... It hardly take any prognosticating to figure out which format they support.
- cash0utcurse, on 01/03/2008, -1/+28I figured this on out on my own a year ago.
- bdawg123, on 01/03/2008, -4/+30I disagree. The smartest thing they could do is switch to Blu-ray and hasten the end of the format war. As long as there are multiple competing formats, everyone loses. I think more and more people are seeing Blu-ray as the ultimate victor so why bother to continue to drag things out endlessly? Choose a side and be done with it.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -1/+23Meanwhile, Seagate sales spike 900%.
- MioTheGreat, on 01/03/2008, -4/+24Then Apple is going to have to give OSX a Protected Video Path, just like Vista has, or it won't be up to the Blu-Ray standard. Why don't I see even a tiny bit of outrage by the same people who were foaming at the mouth when Microsoft did it?
- writh3n, on 01/03/2008, -9/+27As an owner of both an hd-dvd player and a blu-ray player I really hope they go blu-ray exclusive just to cause more chaos --- also I really like my ps3 as a movie player over my toshiba laptop.
- mywhitenoise, on 01/03/2008, -1/+19"I will never buy a Blu-Ray player even if it becomes as ubiquitous as DVD."
$50 bucks says you'll own one in 2 years.
Besides, if you really don't want to support Sony, then don't buy any movies from their studio, and just buy a different brand of player. You honestly think you can avoid Sony? - HenvY, on 01/03/2008, -2/+19Nobody is going to buy out anybody.
- deezeejoey, on 01/03/2008, -12/+29apple hates MS. Sony hates MS.... it only comes natural.
- superkendall, on 01/03/2008, -1/+17Actually Apples direct competitor is more Dell than Microsoft, and Dell also backs Blu-Ray.
Everyone wins when you have one standard. - postalblowfish7, on 01/03/2008, -1/+17maybe no one's mad because apple hasn't actually done anything yet.
- Shiftgood, on 01/03/2008, -1/+15When are we going to acknowledge that you people are 'fanbois' of hating 'fanbois'.
i dont see anybody on this thread yet that is blindly endorsing apple. The topic is quite relevant to tech news... ???
you sir. are a fanboi... getting yourself rabbid at just seeing a thread that has Apple in the topic... dont be so lame. - superkendall, on 01/03/2008, -4/+18Say, wasn't Betamax the format with only one hardware maker backing it - like Toshiba and HD-DVD?
And wasn't Betamax the format with less studio support - like HD-DVD?
And come to think of it, wasn't the recording time for Betamax lower - kind of like how HD-DVD has almsot half the storage of Blu-Ray?
Someone learned from history with Betamax. Apparently it wasn't Toshiba. - postalblowfish7, on 01/03/2008, -1/+14apple publicly committed to the blu-ray format 2 years ago.
- mywhitenoise, on 01/03/2008, -4/+17I wouldn't say it's "twice as expensive", I'd say like 20% more expensive...for hardware.
Generally blu-ray movies are cheaper, and will only get cheaper with a larger install base and no competition. - chkdg8, on 01/03/2008, -3/+16Let the ripping begin.
- Jugalator, on 01/03/2008, -0/+12I doubt it... I don't see what earth shattering thing HD-DVD could do to turn the tide now... Blu-ray was already doing much better than HD-DVD in retail markets before this news was even announced -- since over a year back too. MS was already supporting HD-DVD, and it didn't seem to help them much, what more cards can they play? I think 2008 could thankfully finally be a year where we'll start to see a clear resolution to this ordeal.
- krische, on 01/03/2008, -0/+12Maybe because Microsoft developed the interactivity of HD-DVD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDi_Interactive_Forma ... - kevinmotel, on 01/03/2008, -2/+14http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/images/billsteve.jpg
wow they hate each other - xOpifex, on 01/03/2008, -0/+11Most Toshiba laptops with HD-DVD drives have HDMI out also.
- jostheller, on 01/03/2008, -1/+12You most likely made a huge mistake buying that HD-DVD player, but not becasue of BluRay. HD-DVD just finalized changing the layer size from 15GB to 17GB. They also added the option of a third layer so they would be above BD's storage capacity with 51 GB. let me ask you, did you check to make sure your player will be compatible with the second gen HD-DVD's? How are you going to feel when you buy your first HD-DVD and it doesn't play in your player because it has 17 GB layers instead of the 15 yours expects?
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -3/+14Beta was only better looking. VHS had more support, and longer recording time.
Bluray has all of that this time. HD DVD has no advantages whatsoever - krische, on 01/03/2008, -1/+12Have you not seen the PS3 games that have been scratched with steel wool and still play?
- tastypastry, on 01/03/2008, -3/+14FYI, Blu-Ray isn't Sony's format.
- archer75, on 01/03/2008, -5/+15Exactly. Maybe now people will realize that the DRM support in Vista is not a microsoft thing but rather a MPAA thing which also applies to your set top player and TV. And now the same exact thing will end up in OSX.
But apple fanboys will forgive Steve Jobs for anything. - tidu, on 01/03/2008, -4/+14their main competitor, microsoft is behind HD-DVD, so one can only assume...
- samdu, on 01/03/2008, -2/+12Um, no. HD DVD has not surpassed Blu-Ray in terms of storage "potential." A single layer HD DVD disc is 17GB. A single layer Blu-Ray is 25GB. Extrapolate that out to multiple layers and Blu-Ray will always have more storage potential.
- ryan899, on 01/03/2008, -9/+19couldn't be because you are watching on a laptop could it?
- BinaryDelt, on 01/03/2008, -3/+13Blu Ray players are backwards compatible and play DVDs. Also, I saw "You, Me, and Dupree" on HD-DVD at best buy for $39.99. Several movies, including "The Departed" and "300" were $19.95 on Blu-ray. Granted, most were in the $25 range. Also, BD-R discs are cheaper per GB (15-20 cents cheaper) than their HD-DVD counterparts.
OWNED. - JoeDiggsIt, on 01/03/2008, -2/+11Well, as much as I hate Sony, I think you're right, this needs to end. I foolishly bought a HD-DVD player for Christmas, mostly because of the free movies deal and the nice Toshiba one only being $199.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -0/+9SCEA != Sony Corporate. You obviously have no clue what a media giant the Sony Corporation actually is. The PS3 may be high profile for them but they are diversified enough to avoid living and dying based on a single console launch, much like Microsoft.
- sv650touring, on 01/03/2008, -0/+9Don't forget that Betamax tapes were MUCH shorter than VHS, and that hurt them early on, though I believe they improved eventually.
- Chirp08, on 01/03/2008, -1/+10wtf is up with everyone assuming companies hate each other because they compete. The company I work at doesn't hate it's competition, competition is what keeps me my job. Competitors drive innovation and provide challenges, they appreciate each other and look towards each other for ideas.
- emomakesmecry, on 01/03/2008, -6/+15If this is true, I think we might see a light at the end of the tunnel in these ridiculous HD wars. Blu-Ray FTW!
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -5/+13You just ***** yourself friend, like all the unfortunate owners of Betamax equipment.
- jostheller, on 01/03/2008, -3/+11Is your player compatible with the updated spec? Ie... if they release a movie that is 17 GB per layer, can your player read it? What if it was a triple layer 51 GB disc? Id sure be pissed if my new HD-DVD player wont play future HD-DVD releases.
- sv650touring, on 01/03/2008, -2/+10Microsoft is a software company, and also makes the best selling software for Apple. The Macintosh Business Unit of MS is very profitable for MS every year (as opposed to the Xbox which loses money every year, at least the original did totalling $5Billion in losses)They are not direct competitors for the most part.
- superkendall, on 01/03/2008, -0/+8Porn wil have nothing to do with this war, because porn is too easily accessed via the internet now. That wasn't the case with VHS...
That said, adult content is out for both formats now. - Jugalator, on 01/03/2008, -0/+8Blu-ray has already won the retail movie "war" over here at least. When I go to Scandinavia's largest online movie store (and this isn't exceptional just for them), then click on the section named "HD movies", they list their Blu-ray movies. "HD movies" has become pretty much synonymous with Blu-ray movies here. No wonder really; it's been shown it's outselling HD-DVD by a pretty wide margin. Who in their right mind would choose to go "no, ***** that, I'll go against the stream and try HD-DVD, it may just be victorious!" I'll just wish that person a lot of good luck...
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -3/+10Doesn't Blu-Ray also support the ability to use Java language somewhat?
- knowitman, on 01/04/2008, -1/+8That less DRM means that movie studios support the format less, and that means that without movies, you don't have a format.
- truspect0r, on 01/03/2008, -1/+8Awwww. It IS the end of HD-DVD.
- Electrox3d, on 01/03/2008, -0/+7Ummm... so Sonic's Toast 8 already supports Blu-ray burning in Apple machines, therefore Blu-ray is already supported on Macs. Also, Apple almost always uses Panasonic or Pioneer for optical drives, and both are Manufactures of Blu-ray only.
- superkendall, on 01/03/2008, -0/+7Your post might mean more if Dell was not also a Blu-Ray backer. Blu-Ray is pretty much already set - media sales have been good, player sales now also handily exceed HD-DVD, and then of course there are about four million PS3's around.
- archer75, on 01/03/2008, -3/+10They both decide what you need an want for you.
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