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Apple sends takedown notice to iPod hacker's ISP

tuaw.com — iPod touch jhacker "Martyn" obtained a broken iPod touch, and was planning to dive in and download every bit of code on it in the increasingly complicated effort to put 3rd party applications on the iPod touch. He didn't plan to release the code to the public, but he did plan to upload the code to a secured area of his site.

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  • toetagger, on 10/10/2007, -14/+69Apple knows infringement when it does it- I mean sees it.
  • bobnease, on 10/10/2007, -18/+4Very interesting!
  • PhireN, on 10/10/2007, -7/+22And what is even more scary is that the file was only linked to in the secrete, invite only, hidden ipod touch development channel.
    • akatsuki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22That just means they have a mole in the channel. Seems pretty obvious. Best to run some counterintel and expose them.
    • cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Even MORE scary... you folks don't see the problem is NOT about Apple (gasp!) If you have copyrighted software uploaded on a server, and then share the URL with the public... it really doesn't matter if its a password-protected area. I think that's what my.mP3.com got hosed for, right? If I created software, and someone began distributing editted versions without my permission, I'd ask it to be taken down too. So, this sounds like whining to me. Know the law or get skooled by it. Seriously.
  • Zcott, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19This is bad.
  • sirdaz, on 10/10/2007, -6/+66iSpy with my little eye, an Apple spy
  • sholt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+30What? Apple legal hires Bothans. Everyone knows this.
    • Rapter09, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17Unfortunately, few Bothans died to provide us this information.
      • zerhynn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10This information could be vital to the upcoming technology civil war.
    • miriv365, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10It's a trap!
    • graemee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9This is not the iTouch you're looking for. {waves hand}
      • peyotea, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1i guess if bothans=mac fanboys, then apple legal gets this info. for free. doesn't take much for a fanatic to infiltrate every nook of society.

        i'm an apple fan, but not fanatic fanboy.
  • KevenM, on 10/10/2007, -8/+33Just a wild guess, but why would you upload something to your webserver if you're not planning on sharing it with a few people? I think this kid just announced his plans to a few too many people in one too many forums.
    • MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15Sharing with people and releasing publicly are two entirely different things.
      • sholt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Maybe, but not wrt. someone else's intellectual property.

        To be perfectly fair, he had no authorization to distribute the Apple copyrighted contents of the FlashROM to anyone. At all. So, Apple legal is perfectly in the right here, and he wouldn't have a leg to stand on should he decide to distribute it anyway.

        Still, the speed at which Apple became aware of this and acted upon it is simply astounding.
      • cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Um, YEAH. In the same way, no one should get bent if Nintendo or Konami starts getting people to take down those NES roms.
        It might seem all innocent, and next thing Apple knows, people are running OS X on their Nokia's.
        I think its clear Apple has moles. Like Cindy Crawford... Sexy moles.
    • Mohonri, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25I do it all the time, so I have access to those files wherever I happen to be, even if I'm halfway around the world.
      • dagamer34, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Use e-mail!
        • potp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4tell me a email service that gives you the option to attach 100mb files?
          • duzytata, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2While not really feasible, u can split your file up among 20mb rar files and upload to Gmail in a pinch. If you don't have access to other means that is.
  • airwalkery2k, on 10/10/2007, -4/+84Steve jobs is omniscient. He sees all. He could sense that one of his children was about to be uploaded on the Internet.
    • RyeBrye, on 10/10/2007, -1/+58he has the all seeing "i"
    • betobeto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14"iHacking...senses....tingling"
      • mavisbeacon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6all three comments cracked me up
        three hit combo
      • PopcornDave, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So he's actually iDerman then?
    • pyrates, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Maybe it was because Apple realized they had shipped this specific ipod touch to the guy when he ordered it originally. That's how probably.
  • HHP2K, on 10/10/2007, -4/+20Wow, that's the fastest I've ever seen a corporation move. Hell.
  • Tehy, on 10/10/2007, -17/+2Not sure if this is a good or bad thing... :/
    • potp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Its a bad thing. even a retard like you should know that.
    • Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Are you a little sketchy on the bad thing?

      Imagine if you will, every application on your iPod being forced to only use purchased Apple software that can only work with closed propitery Apple formats. Total consumer lockout.
  • akf2000, on 10/10/2007, -3/+26I made a donation to Martyn a couple of days ago, you hear that Apple? I sent him monies, you ain't never gonna catch me, they seek me here, they seek me there, those Steveies seek me everywhere. am I in heaven? Or am I in hell, that damn elusive akf2000-el.
    • Mohonri, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4(great movie, by the way)
    • wrboyce, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0is that not a quote from Only Fools and Horses? ...That damn elusive, sha-a-dow.
  • slapded, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17I thought JOBS liked hackers.. guess not
    • max777, on 10/10/2007, -2/+41Jobs is whoever he needs to be at that moment in time
    • jonnyeh, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Is Steve gonna try to shut down Woz when he finds out he's attached a rotary dial to the ipod touch, turning it into a phone?
    • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Not when those hackers are compromising Apple's gains, ill-gotten via fascist patent and intellectual "property" laws.
  • tomis, on 10/10/2007, -12/+5I'd like to see how exactly Apple argued that it's illegal for someone to post the contents of a device when said contents are only usable on said device, and to obtain the device you would have to buy it, thusly increasing their sales. And I seriously doubt all iPods contain the OSes source code. Source code and compiled code are two different things. Saying they were going to "download the code" suggests the term "source code", which is inaccurate.
    • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -7/+19The compiled code is copyrighted by Apple, it is up to Apple and only Apple how that copyrighted material is given out or sold. Uploading the compiled code to allow for anyone (even one person) to download is infringement of Apple's copyright. Ancillary facts like needing the device to use the code is irrelevant to the law.
    • jonnyeh, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3It would be no different than uploading a movie that comes free on the device.
    • REUYL, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3So then, by Apple's rules, is it illegal to install Rockbox or Linux on an iPod?
      • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6No ... It's not about what you install on their device, it's about people giving away Apple's copyrighted code. If I'm not getting your connection, please enlighten me.
    • virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Ugh, it's Apple's code. Just like it's illegal to upload Windows XP. Not because it's an OS, but because Apple owns the code, and the compiled code, that is in it.
  • codehkr, on 10/10/2007, -10/+7Google snitched!
  • ripstuntz, on 10/10/2007, -22/+4For some reason I find it super had to believe that Apple contacted the ISP first.. It seems like the ISP would contact Apple, who in turn would tell them to shut him down
    • Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12thats right, live in your ignorance and continue to believe that apple is divine
  • briLo, on 10/10/2007, -11/+4Conformity!!! Good thing we have Linux to rape and pillage!!!!!!!!
    The M$ and @pple$ of the world like their hardware as closed and profitable........damn businesses and their bottom lines!
  • enchantedsky, on 10/10/2007, -23/+23***** Apple. They are no different from the RIAA. Even Microsoft is less evil than this
    • mlostracco, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3Care to share your credit card number, then?
    • tedhead2k, on 10/10/2007, -7/+4Well if you invested tons of money into the programming of a hugely popular product, what would you do if you found out people were hacking it up?
      • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Agreed, enchantedsky. Apple's harassing tactics are on par with the RIAA's and just as justified - to wit, not.
    • potp, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11why the hell did you get dugg down. you are absolutely correct. at least with MS we can pirate their *****. apple is a ***** pain in the ass with their "blessed by steve jobs ass hole" closed system. Apple is much much more evil and money grubbing then MS.
      • Bootes, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You can just as easily, if not more easily pirate stuff from Apple.....
    • Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I disagree with you about the RIAA, they are much more evil than everythign wrong MS and Apple have ever done combined, but I do agree that Apple is more evil than MS.
  • MrMysterious, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Just avoiding the inevitable....
  • camkerr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Man, that was pretty fast.
  • pxa270, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Well, at least this shows clearly that one of the main stated reasons for closing the iPhone (threatening the stability of the cellular network) was complete BS. The iPod Touch has no cellular radio, and it's closed even tighter than the iPhone. Now it should have been obvious for anyone with half a brain that a cellular handset cannot be hacked to bring down the network, but for some reason (RDF?) a lot of people were all too willing to believe.
    • wrboyce, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Well, that's not entirely true.

      Once a full understanding of the Baseband NOR stuff is acquired, it would be entirely possible to reverse engineer the iPhone to use it as a scanner, or possibly to take down a cell tower.. Access to the baseband is completely new.
  • Frost9999, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10What is it in Apple's business model that makes them money by locking down ipods and iphones etc?
    • camkerr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The business model of not breaking contacts and getting sued
      • jonnyeh, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Who do they have a contract with for the ipod touch?
      • chogie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3The iPhone I can understand because of AT&T, but what about the iPod Touch. If I buy a Touch, the transaction is over, its passed on, it is no more, it has ceased to be, it has expired.
        • dulfun, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Except that you agree to the EULA.
          • potp, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4EULA is not a contract and hence not enforceable by law.
          • omarciddo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Ahem.
            "A software license agreement is a memorandum of contract between a producer and a user of computer software which grants the user a software license."

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA
    • MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Just a guess but selling stuff?
  • icsbase, on 10/10/2007, -6/+22Who's your god now, Apple lovers and Steve Jobs fans?
  • klinsek, on 10/10/2007, -9/+7When will the corporate monkeys realize open-source development is the future? I guess not before they can squeeze every last penny out of the unknowing public. Sigh.
    • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2When corporations can no longer abuse the coercive power of government for their own benefits. That is when knowledge and information will become "open source."
    • wageslaven, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4FreeBSD is "open source", and Apple forked it and delivered OSX. The term you're looking for is "Free Software", very different.
      • elipabst, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3So you think Apple's OS X source is open? If you're referring to Darwin then you are on crack.
      • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They're only different ideologically. Yes, Apple is using elements of FOSS, but their OS (and, for that matter, everything they do) is closed source and very secretive.
  • merlintg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Just host the damn thing off shore . . .
    • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2What, in countries even less tolerant to freedom than ours? And the issue is freedom - are people free to pass along information and knowledge? Our government and less insightful corporations believe patent and copyright laws are necessary to protect innovation - for the most part, *****. Profits in an unhampered marketplace provide enough impetus for those bright minds in our world to innovate; and the daily, indiscriminate injustices that occur both to humans and the human condition as a result of patent/copyright law enforcement costs too much to allow our Courts to continue.

      Juries have the power, still, in this country, to overturn law - yes, even to reject the judge's "instructions" (which are given to the jury in the form of law, despite that judges have no such authority). A man was arrested in the UK, recently, for hopping on someone's unsecured (i.e., there was no "no trespassing" sign) signal; some rat in an apt. complex saw the guy in his car outside with his laptop and called the police (IDK if the rat was the one whose signal was being used). It's cases like this where jurors should vote to acquit and send a message to corporate interests: we won't be complicit with your harassment of the American people. We are still free.
  • sudowrestler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You move like they do.
  • brianbennett, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Next time, send it to The Pirate Bay.
  • uselessexpert, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17With each day that passes the Apple is beginning to rot, and will eventually become more like Microsoft.
    • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17I always see people saying this, but how has Apple changed? Look at the very first Mac, it was a closed architecture, you needed special tools just to crack the thing open. This has always been their M-O, create a closed system that is completely developed by Apple and people will either want the product as-it or buy something else. Microsoft has taken an opposite approach in some respects (opening the Windows platform to anyone), but similarly says with their formats that you must abide by MS's rules. So Apple isn't beginning to rot, they are staying to their time-tested business model.
      That said, I want my ipod touch opened up.
      • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Apple is not ashamed to suck at the teat of the State (i.e., lobby for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$); nor are they afraid to use its coercive power to achieve their private goals.
        • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3So, what's your point? They've always been a corporation looking for money.
        • Atomic1fire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2we get the point
          you don't need more then one dollar sign
    • toxicityj, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16they've always been like Microsoft. Its just that Apple fanboys are too blinded by their own stupidity to see it.
    • virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2What has changed? They don't want you to have 3rd party apps on your iPhone? Welcome to January 16th, '07. They had every right to do this because it was Apple's code that was being uploaded, this isn't them saying "Stop before you hack it!" it was them defending their property. If you think this is new, you haven't looked hard enough. The old iPods started to get encrypted FW so iPod Linux couldn't be installed. Tell me more reasons then just that why Apple is becoming more evil. And don't tell me because they lowered the iPhone a net $100...
  • dupswapdrop, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12You bought it but don't look at it, touch it, or try to use it, we will prosecute you to the fullest extent of our law!
  • SirZRX, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20Apple i did some math for u:
    Unlocked iPhone||Apple touch + SDK = bazillion dollars + happy customers
    • digggggggggg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You can take out the SDK part of it. Apple will make a bazillion dollars without spending a damn cent on development if they just open the platform up.
  • REUYL, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Jobs won't get a cent of my money unless he lets me do what I want with my iPod.

    It's a shame this happened, as I was actually considering buying a Touch.
    • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Hear, hear. "No longer lend your strength to that which you wish to be free from." -Jewel
    • virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Really? You quoted Jewel? Really?
    • tdhurst, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Man, I hope Apple doesn't go bankrupt now that you and the ten people you know are *****.
  • skyshock1, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11Apple? Quit being evil.
  • TechGuy206, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Where is Lawnmower man when you need him?
  • MrViklund, on 10/10/2007, -20/+5Good by Apple. They should protect their products.
    • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4By harassing people who choose to better humanity by sharing and seeking more knowledge and information? If Apple can't make profits without harassing people into keeping their mouths shut, they need to get a new business model.
      • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4"people who choose to better humanity by sharing and seeking more knowledge and information" .. This ignores soooo much I don't know where to begin.
        The open source community is a great thing, but it shouldn't be forced upon people who don't want it. For every 1 person who is willing to code for free there are hundreds who will only do it for profit. This is how things have always worked and nothing has changed except for a small band of altruistic people working in the open source community.
        Innovation occurs through capitalism, this is why America is the richest country Further, opening up the iPod touch is not bettering humanity.
    • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Do you say the same about MS and the RIAA/MPAA? Ten to one says you're a hypocrite.
  • sonycam, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Why do Apple do this?
    It's not as if impacts upon 99.99% of the iPod Touch market, only the people who are very enthusiastic about Apple's products would even know about this, these are also the people in influential places. Apple is fast becoming Microsoft.
    • akf2000, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3That's totally on-the-money, it's easy to forget but 95% of all owners will be Best Buytards who barely even have 5 songs loaded and refresh Engadget only twice an hour. This homebrew stuff is for the evangelists who those other people come for help when they forget which way around the USB ***** cord goes in their laptop.
      • jim1977, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Just wow. Did you know that 95 - 99.99% of all statistics and facts are pulled from my ass and you're a pair of arrogant douches.
    • Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They have managed to become a corporation that is more evil than Microsoft yet can make themselves look like they are completely problem free and nothing like MS. That is why they can do it, they have brainwashed millions to be unable to see anything wrong in what they do and can make them wait days to buy a $600 phone that dosent have half the features phones from 3 years ago have.
    • rblancarte, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Wait wait wait. Exactly how is Apple being evil in protecting their intellectual property? We aren't talking hacking the iTouch/iPod, we are talking about releasing their code out onto the internet. Code that this guy is not allowed to have and certainly not allowed to release.
      • sonycam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's going to happen eventually, everyone knows that. If it happened before the Touch was released, imagine the chances of it happening when it does release and millions of people have it. Instead some prick in their office decides to try and stop the inevitable and get some bad publicity. Pointless.
  • bherring, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9I wonder what Apple is hiding in their code? Maybe there is some stolen or GPL'd stuff in there they don't want people to see.
    • Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I doubt that, they just want total control and say in what and how you use anything of theirs.
    • AQUANETA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1GPL stuff is no problem if its not hidden!
  • wbienek, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3My bet is that they know that if it's hacked, the handset could be used for VOIP calls ;)

    http://www.humblebrain.com
  • ffabri, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0like steve said one time when he get kicked from Apple. Back in September 30, 1985
    "Its hard to think that a $2 billion company with 4,300-plus people couldn't compete with six people in blue jeans."
  • fuzzmello, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12wake up fanboys. your fantasy has you by the balls.
  • FredFredrickson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13It's funny how everyone acts all weird and surprised when Apple acts like the corporation they are every now and then. Get used to it people - Apple ain't the fun little thing you thought it was. It's a business, just like all the others.
    • wageslaven, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It is Apple's normal "walled garden" behaviour. Apple has always been this way. From day one. If you like making your own choices, dont buy Apple.
      • FredFredrickson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I found that out the other day at work - when my boss wanted me to copy an image from a a promo DVD (it's our company's own promo DVD), and I couldn't open up Grab (the screenshot program) while the DVD player app was running. Funny - that's something I've always been able to do on Windows, no problem... and yet all you hear about is how bad MS is about DRM. Right.
        • sholt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3That's actually a different issue, and some windows DVD players have/had the same problem.

          If the DVD player is hardware assisted, the MPEG-2 stream is decoded in the video card and the DVD Player just fills the area where the video eventually will be with a solid color, then the video card replaces that mask with the actual video. Since it happens in the card, and not in the local framebuffer, Grab.app gets the masked window and not the video. Software DVD players, like VLC and most windows players, do not exhibit this effect.

          An interesting side-effect of this is that you can set your desktop background to the same color as the mask, then hide DVD Player.app while it's playing in full screen mode. The movie will be playing on your desktop, underneath your icons and such.
        • blofeld9999, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Exactly. It's a hardware or video overlay. Why you are being dugg down, I haven't the slightest. Here, check out the Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_overlay
        • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The video overlay is pretty cool.
  • wbienek, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Yep fuzzmello. Thats why on my podcast I talk about them not as 'fanboys' but 'fansheep'. A fanboy would actually be a 'fan' and not want apple to destroy themselves.. they keep making stupid moves. Success is/has gone to their head.
  • jim1977, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Backdoors in iPhones, a quarter to a third of iPods failing and now getting a legal notice served to you before you even finished committing the crime.

    And all at a massive premium to the consumer.
    • FreeMarketeer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Hear, hear. It's time Americans stop paying for bad business via $billions in corporate subsidies. It's time Americans stop being complicit to Big Business by using the process of jury nullification in Court cases that seek to harass us and eat out our substance, both economic and epistemological.

      Vote Ron Paul 2008 and in the Republican primaries!
  • MerryMortician, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4they still can't stop me from eating a burrito and leaving a big pile of steaming ***** on top of the touch.
  • shellnet, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Can we go back to dial-in BBS?
  • darkphan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I think Martyn should post a copy of the C&D.
  • FlyingHellfish, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4People are surprised by this? Apple is growing into the company that there target consumers can't stand.
    • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4There target consumer is not the consumer that wants to hack ... you live in a microcosm where you think everyone is a computer dork
      • FlyingHellfish, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0How was that derived from my comment? lol
        • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1non computer dork apple fans are still love Apple, all of the complaints (for example this one) are very specific to the computer dork community.
        • FlyingHellfish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why do they love Apple? My understanding from a "non-dork" perspective is because Apple gives the warm fuzzies of not being a big company that strong-arms people. If I'm off then so be it, but that's the input I get as to why the "non-dork" people I know have macs.

          Anyway, why do those people matter, this is technology/science based news site, don't you kind of have to be a dork to even come here? :)
    • FredFredrickson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2It's "their" you idiots.
      • PA42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's interesting that you criticize my use of the wrong "their" (which I agree is idiotic), while you fail to use a comma which would otherwise make your sentence fragment make sense.

        It's "their," you idiots
        • FredFredrickson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I probably should have used single quotes instead of doubles, if you want to get technical about it... but I assume you don't, because then you wouldn't have made that mistake in the first place. :P
      • FlyingHellfish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I noticed I didn't use 'their' and it was too late to correct it, but I guess that's why I shouldn't post anything online that early.
  • zflow, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1Good for Apple, let them protect their intellectual property, you pirates... "updating my iPhone's firmware" HEY WHAT HAPPENED IT BRICKED !!! (damn me for cracking it.... me and my big mouth...)
  • digjam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1thats one crappy upload limit "Martyn" had.. if he had a better upload rate.. no body could have found him.. :P
    • proggieus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0you have no idea what our are talking about, the nand dump this is about was 8 Gb data. Lets see how fast you can upload 8gigs
    • sholt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually - assuming 2 Mbps upstream (which is damn good for most providers in the US), and assuming he was trying to upload the entirety of the 8GB of flash, it would take over 9 hours to upload. Discounting TCP/IP and network access layer overhead, and assuming the upstream was dedicated solely to uploading this one file, and all this is happening under ideal conditions.

      For comparison, assuming the national average upstream of 371 Kbps (source: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Average-US-Upst ... This would have taken over 2 days to upload, at best.

      Even 9 hours isn't unheard of within the realm of Apple Legal's IP theft reaction time.
  • Nefi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15Funny if Microsoft did this it would be an instant digg-bash fest.
    • Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5If you read the comments above you would see near everyone is bashing Apple for this.
  • diggin2china, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The harder they push, the more interested hackers will become. Why not just open it up and get over it?
  • digitallysick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4He shouldn't of told everyone, he should still do it and just upload it to a torrent
    • rblancarte, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Very intelligent. Why not just give all his money to Apple while he is at it?
      He hacked the iTouch, announced it, was told not to release the code and he does it anyway? Yea, that won't get him into any legal mess.

      I find it interesting that when it comes to releasing someone else's IP, you guys have no problems with it. As a software developer, I certainly will do everything I can to make sure my IP and code is protected.
      • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Good for you. But if it actually catches the eye of many computer0savvy individuals and is overpriced, it will be cracked. That probably won't happen, though. Security through obscurity.
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